Are all DSi exclusive games just going to be gimmicky?

It seems like the DSi exclusive features in games are just involving taking a picture of something and putting it in the game, most recent being taking pictures and pasting them into a fighting game. All of these just seem kind of lame to me.

Personally, I'm hoping for DSi exclusives that will take advantage of its higher capacity so that we can play more substantial games than is currently possible on the DS. Instead we seem to just be getting a bunch of stupid stuff with photos. Yes, I know my DSi has a camera, and sure it might be useful in a game from time to time (used *sparingly*), but currently it's like they can't figure out how to make something DSi exclusive without using some sort of photo gimmick. Bleh.

I still love my DSi (for other reasons), but I want some real meat, a real reason why a DSi is an absolute *must* for games!

Er, games like Pop Island, Flipnote Studio and Mighty Flip Champs! are far from gimmicky.

But if you're excluding downloadable games for some reason, I doubt we'll see many great retail DS-exclusives for awhile, if ever. The opportunity costs for ignoring the 100million+ DS userbase are too dangerous to ignore.

Er, games like Pop Island, Flipnote Studio and Mighty Flip Champs! are far from gimmicky.

But if you're excluding downloadable games for some reason, I doubt we'll see many great retail DS-exclusives for awhile, if ever. The opportunity costs for ignoring the 100million+ DS userbase are too dangerous to ignore.

WAIW

Sadly I think he is right :(

I really hope not. Unfortuanatly though I can foresee may top end games trying to implement the camera into the game. As a result, if not done properly the game will quickly be ruined. The camera on the DSi doesn't even have good quality. Actually its worse than mobile phone quality, from what I've read anyway since I dont own a DSi. I own the orginal DS "Phat" as people like to call it, Lol! So even implementing the camera at all might cause problems!

Think it will be a long time before anyone brings a DSi game only to the shops!

to greenarcher and sadPSPaddict

there is already a DSi only game out, a DSi only RPG out in January, and the augmented reality Horror title Ghostwire in Summer 2010

There are more on the way, some using camera to simply add photos, or to augment reality

Nintendo will be coming out with their own DSi only titles, presumably working on them now and to release in 2010, most likely after e3 (or GDC)

there are great games that use DSi's features like MFC, FlipNote, and many others

To answer the TC question: Will all DS games (in 2004) be gimmicky and only use touch/Two screens in silly ways?

No, we saw a large amount of gimmicky uses of the dual screens and touch until 2006/2007 when people really did great stuff with it in Trace Memory, Phantom Hourglass, etc. Heck nintendo basically slapped a GBA Mario & Luigi 2, added 2 characters for dual screen gameplay early in the DS's life

Eventually, we will see devs tap the potential of the camera, SD storage, extra hardware, better WiFi, etc.

we already are. in games like FlipNote

Think about the downloadables. Flipnote Studio makes great uses of the hardware and software differences.

Obviously the DSi Ware stuff doesn't count since there is no way of getting that on the DS Lite. Therefore there is only 1 confirmed title that will be "on the shelves" and DSi only in the almost a year since the DSi came out.

As for the original DS there were plenty of games that used the touch screen as more than a gimmick very early on in the DS lifecycle. Most however were not "main stream" games and thus get forgotten about.

Obviously the DSi Ware stuff doesn't count since there is no way of getting that on the DS Lite. Therefore there is only 1 confirmed title that will be "on the shelves" and DSi only in the almost a year since the DSi came out.

As for the original DS there were plenty of games that used the touch screen as more than a gimmick very early on in the DS lifecycle. Most however were not "main stream" games and thus get forgotten about.

SadPSPAddict

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SiK99

They aren't DSi exclusive - there is just extra function for those playing it on a DSi. They still play fine on a DS Lite. So I ask again what are the DSi only - retail - game(s)???

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They aren't DSi exclusive - there is just extra function for those playing it on a DSi. They still play fine on a DS Lite. So I ask again what are the DSi only - retail - game(s)???

Notice it says "ONLY Plays On" and then points to DSi? They are DSi-only retail games.

Notice it says "ONLY Plays On" and then points to DSi? They are DSi-only retail games.

SiK99

Neither of those are UK boxes. Having looked neither are out here so....

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Notice it says "ONLY Plays On" and then points to DSi? They are DSi-only retail games.

SadPSPAddict

Neither of those are UK boxes. Having looked neither are out here so....

Wait, what? Just because they're not out in the UK doesn't mean they don't exist. You're just being ignorant.

Also, I don't know why people say the DSiware games don't count. You can't play them on a DS lite or phat, and they do take advantage of the DSi's extra features, so they should count. That being said, Mario vs. DK, Mighty Flip Chimps, etc. are great DSi-only games that aren't gimmicky.

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Notice it says "ONLY Plays On" and then points to DSi? They are DSi-only retail games.

Luigi12901

Neither of those are UK boxes. Having looked neither are out here so....

Wait, what? Just because they're not out in the UK doesn't mean they don't exist. You're just being ignorant.

Also, I don't know why people say the DSiware games don't count. You can't play them on a DS lite or phat, and they do take advantage of the DSi's extra features, so they should count. That being said, Mario vs. DK, Mighty Flip Chimps, etc. are great DSi-only games that aren't gimmicky.

There is no need to be rude - the OBVIOUS implication of them not being out in the UK is that I am much less likely to have heard of them, not that I think they don't exist.

I suspect the reason for saying DSi ware games don't count is that a DS Lite owner has no way of buying it whereas a retail title they could pick up by mistake. My wife loves Mario vs DK and I've almost completed Asphalt 4 which are IMO 2 of the best DSi Ware titles and in no way gimmicky!

Are either of these games actually any good? Well, I'm in no way even remotely interested in the Hair Salon game no matter how good it may be, but System Flaw doesn't even have any Amazon ratings or comments, though the game is showing as "in stock". Very odd. Just from looking at the covers (never judge a game by its cover?), they both look like camera gimmicks. :) Neither jump out at me as reasons to exclaim, "OMG!!! I must go buy a DSi right now so I can play these games!!!" I think that's what the DSi needs to get people to want to upgrade from the DS. Still, if System Flaw turns out to be a great game, I might put it on my wish list.bekkilyn

we only have to wait for Nintendo to release that must have DSi only title

Its silly to thnk they'd allow DSi only retail games if they had no desire to push more DSi's than DSLs.

They did a soft launch with the DSi just like they did with the DS phat

DSphat played GBA games (the leader in handheld gaming at time) and had a few GBA type games slapped on with gimmicky two screen/touch features (Advance Wars:Dual Strike, Mario & Luigi: PiT) with a 10 year old port and a few quick cool games (Kirby Canvas Curse) then, after the DS had sold enough in 2004/2005 they added DS specific features like Online to MPH, announced New Super Mario Bros, Pokemon with WiFi, Phantom Hourglass, etc. which were all DS only games, that couldn't even hope to be recreated in the same way on GBA

The only real DS specific game we knew about was Mario 64 port, and Metroid Prime Hunters for a long time in 2004/2005 before we got some games on DS that could've worked on GBA. Advance Wars didn't even have WiFi until its 2nd DS installment

They launched DSi with some good DSiware games, similar to the DS phat software, and since DSi sales are faster and better than DS, at 15 million already, they will probably soon reveal all the DSi only titles to keep pushing DSis, at retail, for release in 2010, 2011, 2012

(Plus add more features to compete with iPhone, i mean its not like PSN store was giving PSP a huge "advantage" over DS, it didn't matter to consumers that you could download cheaper, smaller indie games there, until the Apps Store revolutionized how to get your mobile games out there)

Are either of these games actually any good? Well, I'm in no way even remotely interested in the Hair Salon game no matter how good it may be, but System Flaw doesn't even have any Amazon ratings or comments, though the game is showing as "in stock". Very odd. Just from looking at the covers (never judge a game by its cover?), they both look like camera gimmicks. :) Neither jump out at me as reasons to exclaim, "OMG!!! I must go buy a DSi right now so I can play these games!!!" I think that's what the DSi needs to get people to want to upgrade from the DS. Still, if System Flaw turns out to be a great game, I might put it on my wish list.bekkilyn

Apparently totally motion-controlled shooter that's getting good reviews.