Are people getting there hopes up too high and too soon?

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#1 Gohansephiroth
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Look I want a new zelda game as much as everyone else since I'm a big fan of the series, but with all these topics popping up am i the only one who thinks people are getting too ahead of themselves with anticipation? I'm not saying people shouldn't speculate about the game, but we haven't seen or heard anything about this game which means it could be a ways off from release, and If i recall when people overhyped themselves before Twilight princess's release they were all expecting too much and some now blast the game because it didn't meet their expectations. I think it would just be better if we take things as they come and not wait for the next big thing to come from E3 or where ever because it might and probably wont be everything you expected, but that's just my opinion i guess.

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#2 bob_newman
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The kids do this every year.

I used to try and talk some sense into them, warn them not to get too excited.

But honestly, I've learned that it's funnier to sit back and just watch all of them cry and complain that Nintendo failed them or lied to them. Their little hopes and dreams, crushed by their own hype. Good times...

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#3 stike22
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To be honest the reason some fans are doing that is because they haven't had a decent game for time, these fans are in it for the proper A titles of Nintendo Mario, Metroid, Zelda and such. Of course they are getting their hopes up and chances are their hopes will get dashed but what the hell. Basically a bunch of fans EXPECT something from E3 this year becaues last one was a complete joke.
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#4 FFCYAN
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The kids do this every year.

I used to try and talk some sense into them, warn them not to get too excited.

But honestly, I've learned that it's funnier to sit back and just watch all of them cry and complain that Nintendo failed them or lied to them. Their little hopes and dreams, crushed by their own hype. Good times...

bob_newman

*Gets lawn chair, pours beer in mug, waits for the fun*

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#5 bob_newman
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[QUOTE="stike22"]To be honest the reason some fans are doing that is because they haven't had a decent game for time, these fans are in it for the proper A titles of Nintendo Mario, Metroid, Zelda and such. Of course they are getting their hopes up and chances are their hopes will get dashed but what the hell. Basically a bunch of fans EXPECT something from E3 this year becaues last one was a complete joke.

So...logically speaking, shouldn't people lower their expectations? It's not like Nintendo tried to make last E3 crappy, it just didn't appeal to people in the gaming community. It still got more headlines in the media than the "other" companies though, and that's exactly what they wanted. So, why would they stop doing it that way if it worked so well for them?
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#6 Foxi911
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I tried to tell them zelda wouldnt come last year...but did they listen no!.....Now Im telling them this yr...still the same,hopes will be crush again *evil laugh*

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#7 stike22
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Thats not that easy when you played a great game unless you stop gaming altogether, again this thread is one that turns into a casual gamer or hardcore gamer discussion. Besides games cost money therefor we should be getting quality for our money, nobody should be paying for **** C list games that can be completed in a day. When people are experienced in harder or more A list games they don't want crappy games, Nintendo is famous for its first party games Mario, Metroid and Zelda and such without them Nintendo would lose something like 95% of its fans. Besides some people have more then just the Wii so other games on Wii are like **** compared to them and not just that but Wii's has a massive lack of genre of game as well, your looking at a console with practically no good RPGs at all. FPSs would be a great genre for the Wii but it only has like 2 good ones and Conduit which is coming out later this year which is another game fans are excited about because its got the potential to be an A list game and also a very good shoot em up in which the Wii only has 2. As for E3 compare 2008s E3 to every other E3 and you will see why its a joke, many games have been promised over the years and Nintendo hasn't delivered so some fans are annoyed and I don't blame em. No console in the history of gaming has more shovelware then Wii, you go to the shops look at the Wii shelves and your practically smothered in the crap and thing is they can put all effort into gimmicks and crap but they can't make a SINGLE Starfox game or whatever else.
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[QUOTE="stike22"]Thats not that easy when you played a great game unless you stop gaming altogether, again this thread is one that turns into a casual gamer or hardcore gamer discussion. Besides games cost money therefor we should be getting quality for our money, nobody should be paying for **** C list games that can be completed in a day. When people are experienced in harder or more A list games they don't want crappy games, Nintendo is famous for its first party games Mario, Metroid and Zelda and such without them Nintendo would lose something like 95% of its fans. Besides some people have more then just the Wii so other games on Wii are like **** compared to them and not just that but Wii's has a massive lack of genre of game as well, your looking at a console with practically no good RPGs at all. FPSs would be a great genre for the Wii but it only has like 2 good ones and Conduit which is coming out later this year which is another game fans are excited about because its got the potential to be an A list game and also a very good shoot em up in which the Wii only has 2. As for E3 compare 2008s E3 to every other E3 and you will see why its a joke, many games have been promised over the years and Nintendo hasn't delivered so some fans are annoyed and I don't blame em. No console in the history of gaming has more shovelware then Wii, you go to the shops look at the Wii shelves and your practically smothered in the crap and thing is they can put all effort into gimmicks and crap but they can't make a SINGLE Starfox game or whatever else.

If gaming is too expensive, to the point where ratings that OTHER people give a game (instead of your personal experience with it) mean that it's a waste of your money, then maybe you need to choose a cheaper hobby.
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#9 Gohansephiroth
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As for E3 compare 2008s E3 to every other E3 and you will see why its a joke, many games have been promised over the years and Nintendo hasn't delivered so some fans are annoyed and I don't blame em. No console in the history of gaming has more shovelware then Wii, you go to the shops look at the Wii shelves and your practically smothered in the crap and thing is they can put all effort into gimmicks and crap but they can't make a SINGLE Starfox game or whatever else.stike22
that's why im not expecting anything from it, Ive made the mistake in the past of over hyping a game or an event for myself and there's no way it could meet my expectations so im not gonna make that mistake again since id rather be pleasantly surprised by something then let down by it, and i think its better that nintendo doesn't announce something till its close to release since the longer you wait or the more delays a game has the more time you will speculate and get your hopes up.

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Thats the thing experienced gamers don't need to play some games to know what they are like, a **** game is a **** game just because a couple of people like it doesn't mean its a worthwhile game, Nintendo is famous for its first party all true fans know that, thats all they really want because Wii's third party is a crap compared to other consoles third party thats because Microsoft and Sony are known more for their third party. People who play I don't know Zelda, why the hell would they stoop down to expecting a crap game like raving rabbids its not a game its a gimmick, a bunch of mini games piled together to waste time, expense isn't the point its that Nintendo should strive to make their games worth the actual price, over half the games on Wii by rights are only worth $10 and thats because they are shovelware. The noteworthy third party games like Madworld are decent enough for people who only own Wii but if someone has another console X360 for example there are hundreds of games on X360 better then Madworld, thats because the X360 is known for its third parties not 1st parties like Nintendo.
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#11 Lto_thaG
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I expected this to be about AC2..

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[QUOTE="stike22"] As for E3 compare 2008s E3 to every other E3 and you will see why its a joke, many games have been promised over the years and Nintendo hasn't delivered so some fans are annoyed and I don't blame em. No console in the history of gaming has more shovelware then Wii, you go to the shops look at the Wii shelves and your practically smothered in the crap and thing is they can put all effort into gimmicks and crap but they can't make a SINGLE Starfox game or whatever else.Gohansephiroth

that's why im not expecting anything from it, Ive made the mistake in the past of over hyping a game or an event for myself and there's no way it could meet my expectations so im not gonna make that mistake again since id rather be pleasantly surprised by something then let down by it, and i think its better that nintendo doesn't announce something till its close to release since the longer you wait or the more delays a game has the more time you will speculate and get your hopes up.

To be honest I gave up hoping time ago, I just wait but if people want to hope let em hope.
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[QUOTE="stike22"]Thats the thing experienced gamers don't need to play some games to know what they are like, a **** game is a **** game just because a couple of people like it doesn't mean its a worthwhile game, Nintendo is famous for its first party all true fans know that, thats all they really want because Wii's third party is a crap compared to other consoles third party thats because Microsoft and Sony are known more for their third party. People who play I don't know Zelda, why the hell would they stoop down to expecting a crap game like raving rabbids its not a game its a gimmick, a bunch of mini games piled together to waste time, expense isn't the point its that Nintendo should strive to make their games worth the actual price, over half the games on Wii by rights are only worth $10 and thats because they are shovelware. The noteworthy third party games like Madworld are decent enough for people who only own Wii but if someone has another console X360 for example there are hundreds of games on X360 better then Madworld, thats because the X360 is known for its third parties not 1st parties like Nintendo.bob_newman
You're not an experienced gamer. At all. You THINK you are, but you're not. Otherwise, you'd know that there were more than just a few "worthwhile" games on the Wii. I'm not even going to bother with you anymore. Your opinion doesn't matter to me.

Riiiiiiiiiight...oh well.
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[QUOTE="bob_newman"][QUOTE="stike22"]Thats the thing experienced gamers don't need to play some games to know what they are like, a **** game is a **** game just because a couple of people like it doesn't mean its a worthwhile game, Nintendo is famous for its first party all true fans know that, thats all they really want because Wii's third party is a crap compared to other consoles third party thats because Microsoft and Sony are known more for their third party. People who play I don't know Zelda, why the hell would they stoop down to expecting a crap game like raving rabbids its not a game its a gimmick, a bunch of mini games piled together to waste time, expense isn't the point its that Nintendo should strive to make their games worth the actual price, over half the games on Wii by rights are only worth $10 and thats because they are shovelware. The noteworthy third party games like Madworld are decent enough for people who only own Wii but if someone has another console X360 for example there are hundreds of games on X360 better then Madworld, thats because the X360 is known for its third parties not 1st parties like Nintendo.

You're not an experienced gamer. At all. You THINK you are, but you're not. Otherwise, you'd know that there were more than just a few "worthwhile" games on the Wii. I'm not even going to bother with you anymore. Your opinion doesn't matter to me.

he gave valid points you know :|
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#16 stike22
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Thanx but you might as well leave it.
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Agreed. I'll take Zelda however it's served... Overeasy, scrambled, sunny side up! :D
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#18 Gohansephiroth
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Agreed. I'll take Zelda however it's served... Overeasy, scrambled, sunny side up! :Dslimdave21

lol that's a good way to put it, and you forgot poached

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#19 jdc6305
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Common sense says a new Zelda is due since Twillight Princes was a gamecube game. But I'm thinking theres gonna be more then Zelda I think Nintendo has something else up there sleeve.

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#20 denelli6
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no relly man nitdo is a total let down never any new games like rpgs and anter thingcall of duty world at war wtf is that like make a new cod with the wii speck and anouter thing like the need a wii speck for all online games man it get gay

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#21 craigalan23
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The kids do this every year.

I used to try and talk some sense into them, warn them not to get too excited.

But honestly, I've learned that it's funnier to sit back and just watch all of them cry and complain that Nintendo failed them or lied to them. Their little hopes and dreams, crushed by their own hype. Good times...

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This happens everywhere i used to try too but it never works. People will get so extremely hyped that they think it is the games fault for being so hyped.. Then they use it to say the game was ****. "X is so bad because it got so overhyped." This is why i never hype games up like they are the next revolution in gaming i just don't get why people do it.

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#22 07pops07
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there are more people on these fourms saying not too get hyped then people who are expecting somthing big from e3 sadly i am hyped but its too late for me try and save somone else

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#23 wildjango64
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i just hope nintendo learned from their terrible showing last year. i mean wii music as the big finale??? you've got to be kidding me
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[QUOTE="stike22"]To be honest the reason some fans are doing that is because they haven't had a decent game for time, these fans are in it for the proper A titles of Nintendo Mario, Metroid, Zelda and such. Of course they are getting their hopes up and chances are their hopes will get dashed but what the hell. Basically a bunch of fans EXPECT something from E3 this year becaues last one was a complete joke.bob_newman
So...logically speaking, shouldn't people lower their expectations? It's not like Nintendo tried to make last E3 crappy, it just didn't appeal to people in the gaming community. It still got more headlines in the media than the "other" companies though, and that's exactly what they wanted. So, why would they stop doing it that way if it worked so well for them?

I'm not trying to justify mindless hype but Nintendo did say they were disappointed with last year's E3. If Nintendo themselves are saying things went badly last year, why would they willingly repeat that performance?

Anyway, I'm not sure we'll see a new Zelda. Nintendo's secondary franchises like Starfox, F-Zero and Pikmin are much more likely.

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Yeah, there is ALWAYS too much hype. However, I genuinely expect this years E3 to be great, because they don't have anything good announced and a new round of games needs to surface.
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#26 Master_Hermes
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Yeah, there is ALWAYS too much hype. However, I genuinely expect this years E3 to be great, because they don't have anything good announced and a new round of games needs to surface.Head_of_games

E3 is also returning to its old format.

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#27 Smokescreened84
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I never allow myself to be hyped for anything, I don't see the point. It;s only video games, it's not like the world is going to end if the game doesn't change the world, if it's fun, has plenty of replay value and keeps you entertained for a wee while, then fine. But it's only a game at the end of the day.

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Zelda TP was great for a GC and that is why people got disapointed because it was a GC game. I agree that waiting for E3 is the best idea because a big game could be a Wii Fit sequel since that sells very well.
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#29 Hyper_Tails
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I don't allow myself to get really hyped for any releases now. I let myself before last year's E3, and that was simply painful.
I always have faith with Nintendo's core IP games such as Mario and Zelda, but it's the third parties titles that people are getting too excited about. Sonic Unleashed/Black Knight immediately spring to mind, and I can tell already that The Conduit won't live up to the ridiculous amount of hype it's been receiving.

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The only good games on wii IMO were : Red Steel , Zelda , Okami , SMG , Kart , MK:A , MP3, RE4 , NMH , DBZ2+3 , Madworld but thats it , most of the games are from 2007 and currently there is really nothing good on wii and i dont wanna play the same games over and over again. I loved the Wiiat the release but now it just collects dust because of no worthy software (i played almost all wii games till november last year)

But im not crying on forums dont get me wrong , i just went to the shop and got a PS3 and there was no reason to turn on wii since november for me with loads of great titles both graphics & gameplay- wise , all the statements that wii isn't bout graphics but gameplay are so untrue because the wii games lack of both , contantly waggling a remote isn't any addition to gameplay imo when yourhand hurt after a houras a result of that. Most games simply just suck and i speak from my own experience.

to everyone who ihas only a wii and is dissapionted by the wii-games i feel your pain , just buy a X360 (or ps3 if you can/will afford that)the 360 its even cheaper then Wii and its has a ton ofgood games , cool graphics , good online play while wii currently has none of this , i just hope thay wii comes back with some good games but i dont care if not because i have my ps3 now

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#31 Gohansephiroth
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hmm it seems what i was saying got a bit lost after a few posts. I know there aren't many wii games that are Triple A quality and that's true but it doesn't mean zelda and mario games are all that's left. What i was saying is that people should really not build the next zelda game up to be the second coming since they will be let down with that kind of expectations, and with the recent flux of zelda topics its already begun and we don't even know what the game looks like or anything about it. Maybe what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears but when you go into a game with no expectations its a much better experience all around, but i know most people will get hyped anyway and more than likely bash said game since it wasn't what they expected after the long wait.

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#32 denelli6
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I never allow myself to be hyped for anything, I don't see the point. It;s only video games, it's not like the world is going to end if the game doesn't change the world, if it's fun, has plenty of replay value and keeps you entertained for a we while, then fine. But it's only a game at the end of the day.

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i strongley agrre with wat ur saying its just a game like on no they made a bad grapices games the sky is falling OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#33 denelli6
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and relly some games get hyped up too much and it ruins it for all of us

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The only good games on wii IMO were : Red Steel , Zelda , Okami , SMG , Kart , MK:A , MP3, RE4 , NMH , DBZ2+3 , Madworld but thats it , most of the games are from 2007 and currently there is really nothing good on wii and i dont wanna play the same games over and over again. I loved the Wiiat the release but now it just collects dust because of no worthy software (i played almost all wii games till november last year)

But im not crying on forums dont get me wrong , i just went to the shop and got a PS3 and there was no reason to turn on wii since november for me with loads of great titles both graphics & gameplay- wise , all the statements that wii isn't bout graphics but gameplay are so untrue because the wii games lack of both , contantly waggling a remote isn't any addition to gameplay imo when yourhand hurt after a houras a result of that. Most games simply just suck and i speak from my own experience.

to everyone who ihas only a wii and is dissapionted by the wii-games i feel your pain , just buy a X360 (or ps3 if you can/will afford that)the 360 its even cheaper then Wii and its has a ton ofgood games , cool graphics , good online play while wii currently has none of this , i just hope thay wii comes back with some good games but i dont care if not because i have my ps3 now

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Wow, you sure missed a lot of really great wii games...and a few in your list like red steel and MK:A are pretty terrible.

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I am going to sit back and laugh at every single person who complains about the lack of Zelda at E3. Zelda was announced a month ago, and another Zelda game to be announced 3 months later- from GDC- it won't happen.
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#36 07pops07
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I am going to sit back and laugh at every single person who complains about the lack of Zelda at E3. Zelda was announced a month ago, and another Zelda game to be announced 3 months later- from GDC- it won't happen.wiifan001
E3 is whereall thebiggames get annouced gdc is more of a place for devs too show off too other devs..im only hoping for zelda because ofdates majoras 2000 ,wind waker 2003, twightlight prinncess 2006, next zelda 2009? (sorry i dont know the date oot time came out)

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#37 Pikminmaniac
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I'm actually extremely excited about Punch Out!! right now so I'm not thinking too much about E3. I'm also thinking about Sin and Punishment 2. However, Pikmin 3 will always be in my mind no matter what. If Pikmin is shown at E3 and not Zelda, fans will probably complain which would make me furious! This might also be a good thing since I do not want Pikmin competeing with Zelda for sales.I've just had enough of people thinking that Mario and Zelda are Nintendo's only games when Miyamoto just created another series of the same calibur.

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#38 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]I am going to sit back and laugh at every single person who complains about the lack of Zelda at E3. Zelda was announced a month ago, and another Zelda game to be announced 3 months later- from GDC- it won't happen.07pops07

E3 is whereall thebiggames get annouced gdc is more of a place for devs too show off too other devs..im only hoping for zelda because ofdates majoras 2000 ,wind waker 2003, twightlight prinncess 2006, next zelda 2009? (sorry i dont know the date oot time came out)

There may be another Zelda announced much later this year, but certainly not E3. Either way, I do look very forward for the *Zelda Wii* when it comes :D
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#39 ACL0V3R
Member since 2008 • 2273 Posts

no relly man nitdo is a total let down never any new games like rpgs and anter thingcall of duty world at war wtf is that like make a new cod with the wii speck and anouter thing like the need a wii speck for all online games man it get gay

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Just curious but do you know how to spell?

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#40 ACL0V3R
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i just hope nintendo learned from their terrible showing last year. i mean wii music as the big finale??? you've got to be kidding mewildjango64

Lol wii speak what an EPIC failure of a finale and a game XD.

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#41 raahsnavj
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Agreed. I'll take Zelda however it's served... Overeasy, scrambled, sunny side up! :Dslimdave21
Would you could you in a train? because that is the next zelda... but I'm sure you meant 'console' Zelda right?