Big Wii Suprise this morning almost makes me certain
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[QUOTE="Spelunker"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"][QUOTE="Spelunker"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"]I thought it was gametap, but it doesnt really matter, its not they are using some space age technology, anybody can use thier system. The fact remians that we downloaded nothing but a hub today, and the content is sent to use through that hub, making demo's a possiblity.vnc20100
YOu're not going to be able to play a game remotely, without executable code on the system, unless you're playing a flash or java based game or something. The internet just doesn't work that way, even with the "space age technology".
Do you mean remotely as in not at all, or are you talking about the wii remote, because in either case, I dont think your right.
"Not remotely" means "not at all".
And it's true: you can't play the game unless you have it on your system. Your whole notion of a 'hub' doesn't really make any sense, and isn't really applicable anyway: what you downloaded for Metroid were movies. You can watch movies over the internet, without them being local. You can't do that with an entire game, unless it's an applet or flash include. For a Wii demo to work, you'd need to download the code for the game.
What you downloaded today has nothing to do with demos, and in no way, shape, or form "makes them a possibility".
Can I condredict a mod :-)
Well this shows the oppostie. sure you need a player and some file install on your memory. but the games themselve are not on your computer. You need highspeed to play those games. Also, I downloaded Disicples 2 demo some years ago and I didn't have to install it, it played remotly from StrategyFirst's servers. *edit
*Sure I had to install player, but not the game itself
Feel free to contradict, but that doesn't make you right. 
Much like with GameTap, you're not really 'playing remotely' in the service you're talking about. The game is loaded into temp cache on your side: the software player you install is to allow you to synch with their servers and pull down the game files in a secure manner, and then load them onto your harddrive in a temporary fashion. That's why they quote the average hard drive space needed per game as 1.5 gigs.
And that's the average, including a lot of the smaller, older, simpler games they offer. The more modern games require at least 3-5 gigs of local space for game files to be written to.
All in all, the point remains the same: demos aren't run remotely. These services people keep linking to don't really run the game remotely, they load the necessary game files locally onto your machine on a per use basis. Nintendo can do that sort of thing, but it'd be a little silly (as they already control the means of access through the Wii interface), and there's no reason to not allow you to just download the game and offer the ability to play offline.
The limiting factor, now and until it changes, is storage space. There's no real getting around that very simple point: Nintendo can't do magic. Either they'll offer pratical large scale storage solutions, or there won't be large downloadable demos.
Feel free to contradict, but that doesn't make you right.
Much like with GameTap, you're not really 'playing remotely' in the service you're talking about. The game is loaded into temp cache on your side: the software player you install is to allow you to synch with their servers and pull down the game files in a secure manner, and then load them onto your harddrive in a temporary fashion. That's why they quote the average hard drive space needed per game as 1.5 gigs.
And that's the average, including a lot of the smaller, older, simpler games they offer. The more modern games require at least 3-5 gigs of local space for game files to be written to.
All in all, the point remains the same: demos aren't run remotely. These services people keep linking to don't really run the game remotely, they load the necessary game files locally onto your machine on a per use basis. Nintendo can do that sort of thing, but it'd be a little silly (as they already control the means of access through the Wii interface), and there's no reason to not allow you to just download the game and offer the ability to play offline.
The limiting factor, now and until it changes, is storage space. There's no real getting around that very simple point: Nintendo can't do magic. Either they'll offer pratical large scale storage solutions, or there won't be large downloadable demos.
Spelunker
Oh well, at least I tried :)
But the size is still smaller than installing tho whole game on the computer, they could do that with the Wii too so that we could play demos without using all of the storage space.
[QUOTE="Spelunker"]Feel free to contradict, but that doesn't make you right.
Much like with GameTap, you're not really 'playing remotely' in the service you're talking about. The game is loaded into temp cache on your side: the software player you install is to allow you to synch with their servers and pull down the game files in a secure manner, and then load them onto your harddrive in a temporary fashion. That's why they quote the average hard drive space needed per game as 1.5 gigs.
And that's the average, including a lot of the smaller, older, simpler games they offer. The more modern games require at least 3-5 gigs of local space for game files to be written to.
All in all, the point remains the same: demos aren't run remotely. These services people keep linking to don't really run the game remotely, they load the necessary game files locally onto your machine on a per use basis. Nintendo can do that sort of thing, but it'd be a little silly (as they already control the means of access through the Wii interface), and there's no reason to not allow you to just download the game and offer the ability to play offline.
The limiting factor, now and until it changes, is storage space. There's no real getting around that very simple point: Nintendo can't do magic. Either they'll offer pratical large scale storage solutions, or there won't be large downloadable demos.
vnc20100
Oh well, at least I tried :)
But the size is still smaller than installing tho whole game on the computer, they could do that with the Wii too so that we could play demos without using all of the storage space.
There's a pretty safe bet that any demo of a game like MP3 would be >300MB in size. Off the bat, even if you have no downloads, you have less than 500MB available space in internal memory. If you have more than a couple of games, then there's probably little chance of fitting a demo.
And that's not even taking into account that when you fill up that large a percentage of the internal storage, the Wii doesn't like it too much: the interface slows markedly.
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