Birdo is... A GUY?!

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#1 darknut25
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"Birdo's gender has changed throughout various American game versions, but has always been male in Japan. In the original manual for Super Mario Bros. 2, Birdo is referred to as a male that beleives he is a female, and would like to be called Birdetta."

-from Wikipedia

wow.

i heard a rumor bout it, so i wikipedia-ed it and BAM!

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#2 thriteenthmonke
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Yep.
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#3 bob_newman
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Welcome to 20 years ago.
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#4 SomeOddGuy
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Glad you finally know. ;)

Interesting fact: In Super Mario Advance, everytime you fight Birdo, he apparently is voiced by a female, regardless of his true gender. I wonder who was responsible for that scripting...

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#5 paradigm68
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Welcome to 20 years ago.bob_newman

no kidding

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#6 darknut25
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Welllll sorrry. I never knew until like yesterday.
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#7 Thiago26792
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Don't worry, it's never too late to learn these things.
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#8 Wii_Player64
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hes trans sexual
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#9 bob_newman
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Don't worry, it's never too late to learn these things.Thiago26792

Tell that to the guy who went to a club, danced with what he thought was a girl, and learned later that night that, nope, not so much...

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#10 mali
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There is reason to change Catherine's gender from male to female, so Nintendo of America would not get involved with controversies over transvestitism and homosexuality. By the way, the female voice is a moot argument as effeminate males are known to have feminine voices.
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#11 PhazonBlazer
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you are correct sir
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#12 mali
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hes trans sexualWii_Player64

Birdo a transvestite, not a transsexual. They have different meanings. A transvestite is one who adapts the dress and manners of the opposite sex, while a transsexual is one who undergoes a sex-change surgery to legally become the opposite sex.

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#13 gamer6464
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I still have the old manual for SMB2 that says that.
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#14 SonicBalla
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That means Yoshi is....
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#15 wiggie123
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I was shocked too
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#16 toadster101
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So Yoshi and Birdo are both gay Who would of thought, dinosaurs of all things. :P
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#17 detroithardcore
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You mean to tell me those werent eggs he was throwing all along? ........Oh no :(
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I told my friend's sister and she didn't believe me.
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#20 Leopold_Stotch
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Birdo is not a homosexual. Yoshi will lay the egg of their love child.
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#21 TheSmitto
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Yep. I've never really been able to grasp it.:?
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#22 SoraX64
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I learned this the hard way :'(

what has been seen can't not be unseen....

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#23 NintendoGamer3
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I read this in GamePro. "Birdo & Yoshi are g@y (literally) I read the Super Mario Bros. 2 instruction manual resently, and it says that Birdo is a boy who thinks he iss a girl. Yoshi in turn, is said to be in love with Birdo. So this means that their g@y."
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#24 smileyryder34
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I have never once thought Birdo or Yoshi were gay Birdo and Yoshi are the names of the species of dinosaur much like Pikachu or Piplup in Pokemon. There are both male and female Pokemon that all use the same name. There would also be male and female Yoshi's and male and female Birdo's.
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#25 apboyer
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Yoshi's gender has kinda been confusing as well. Typically yoshi is considered a male but like Birdo has the ability to produce eggs.
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#26 B1kmatt
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Well technically Yoshi is a species of dinosaur so there can be both male and female yoshis
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#27 Nobarai
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Why is everyone noticing just NOW that Birdo is a transvestite? It's been common knowledge for me.

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#28 bopie64
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Wikipedia also says Yoshis have no gender, so how is that possible?
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#29 GamerBoy53
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Wikipedia also says Yoshis have no gender, so how is that possible?bopie64
It's called being A-sexual (is that even the right word?).
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#30 vaders_fist
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[QUOTE="bopie64"]Wikipedia also says Yoshis have no gender, so how is that possible?GamerBoy53
It's called being A-sexual (is that even the right word?).

Yeah, like a starfish.

Its not like homosexuality is a new concept in the mario universe. I mean, look at Luigi. He spent half of Superstar Saga hitting on Prince Peasley

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#31 Turbo_Burdo
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[QUOTE="GamerBoy53"][QUOTE="bopie64"]Wikipedia also says Yoshis have no gender, so how is that possible?vaders_fist

It's called being A-sexual (is that even the right word?).

Yeah, like a starfish.

Its not like homosexuality is a new concept in the mario universe. I mean, look at Luigi. He spent half of Superstar Saga hitting on Prince Peasley

Luigi's a puff?!? Yoshi is a species because in Melee if you watch the beginning part when you dont press anything on the menu screen you see millions of yoshi migrating. This could be the same with birdo. I think Nintendo are trying to change it into a girl because they know they've ruined the character with the whole transexuality saga. It's all because of what's written in that stupid super mario manual.I consider her as a girl. She rocks on MK.

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Luigi's a puff?!? Yoshi is a species because in Melee if you watch the beginning part when you dont press anything on the menu screen you see millions of yoshi migrating. This could be the same with birdo. I think Nintendo are trying to change it into a girl because they know they've ruined the character with the whole transexuality saga. It's all because of what's written in that stupid super mario manual.I consider her as a girl. She rocks on MK.

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I wouldnt call it ruining a character. Simply making it more complex than Nintendo's target audience would really understand. I dont think that Nintendo is trying to change anything with birdo either. They seem to have gone "this is Birdo, Birdo is trans. Now, lets move on" Birdo is a rather minor character when you think about it. His most important rolls have been in Superstar saga, and SMB2. That and the countless sporting events.

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#33 vaders_fist
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[QUOTE="Turbo_Burdo"]

Luigi's a puff?!? Yoshi is a species because in Melee if you watch the beginning part when you dont press anything on the menu screen you see millions of yoshi migrating. This could be the same with birdo. I think Nintendo are trying to change it into a girl because they know they've ruined the character with the whole transexuality saga. It's all because of what's written in that stupid super mario manual.I consider her as a girl. She rocks on MK.

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I wouldnt call it ruining a character. Simply making it more complex than Nintendo's target audience would really understand. I dont think that Nintendo is trying to change anything with birdo either. They seem to have gone "this is Birdo, Birdo is trans. Now, lets move on" Birdo is a rather minor character when you think about it. His most important rolls have been in Superstar saga, and SMB2. That and the countless sporting events.

Oh and dude, play any game with luigi and the slightest amount of character development. Luigi is gay no doubt about it.

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#34 MangoLlamas
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in many languages o at the end of a word hints of something masculine...this still comes as a surprise though :p
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#35 Yo-gan
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I had no idea either! :o
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[QUOTE="vaders_fist"][QUOTE="Turbo_Burdo"]

Luigi's a puff?!? Yoshi is a species because in Melee if you watch the beginning part when you dont press anything on the menu screen you see millions of yoshi migrating. This could be the same with birdo. I think Nintendo are trying to change it into a girl because they know they've ruined the character with the whole transexuality saga. It's all because of what's written in that stupid super mario manual.I consider her as a girl. She rocks on MK.

vaders_fist

I wouldnt call it ruining a character. Simply making it more complex than Nintendo's target audience would really understand. I dont think that Nintendo is trying to change anything with birdo either. They seem to have gone "this is Birdo, Birdo is trans. Now, lets move on" Birdo is a rather minor character when you think about it. His most important rolls have been in Superstar saga, and SMB2. That and the countless sporting events.

Oh and dude, play any game with luigi and the slightest amount of character development. Luigi is gay no doubt about it.

He's with Daisy man, and doesn't have a problem showing affection either (see; fountains on the Daisy Circuit) unlike Mario who never shows one iota of interest in Peach.

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#37 Black_Knight_00
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Birdo is... A GUY?!

darknut25

And it's not all: guess who else is a guy?

...you guessed it.

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#38 Arclight_Blue
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beneath that childish image, nintendo can become pretty nasty at times
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#39 rockwii13
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What I think happened is that since many just thought it was a girl, Nintendo just kept it as a girl image.
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#40 Jdog30
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I HATE Birdo. Worst character ever! Pink. Big Bow. Big hole in face. Recipe for disaster. He/She. Worst moment of Mario Kart: i unlocked Birdo. :x
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#41 rockwii13
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[QUOTE="vaders_fist"][QUOTE="vaders_fist"][QUOTE="Turbo_Burdo"]

Luigi's a puff?!? Yoshi is a species because in Melee if you watch the beginning part when you dont press anything on the menu screen you see millions of yoshi migrating. This could be the same with birdo. I think Nintendo are trying to change it into a girl because they know they've ruined the character with the whole transexuality saga. It's all because of what's written in that stupid super mario manual.I consider her as a girl. She rocks on MK.

KevComesRipping

I wouldnt call it ruining a character. Simply making it more complex than Nintendo's target audience would really understand. I dont think that Nintendo is trying to change anything with birdo either. They seem to have gone "this is Birdo, Birdo is trans. Now, lets move on" Birdo is a rather minor character when you think about it. His most important rolls have been in Superstar saga, and SMB2. That and the countless sporting events.

Oh and dude, play any game with luigi and the slightest amount of character development. Luigi is gay no doubt about it.

He's with Daisy man, and doesn't have a problem showing affection either (see; fountains on the Daisy Circuit) unlike Mario who never shows one iota of interest in Peach.

Um, have you never play any Mario game? How many times does he save her? How many times does she kiss his cheek and he says "Yahooooooooooooooooooo!" Have you not played Mario Galaxy? Because at the end he holds Peach's hand.

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#42 Dog_Dude
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I thought birdo was Yoshi's gf- don't ask
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#43 mali
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[QUOTE="bopie64"]Wikipedia also says Yoshis have no gender, so how is that possible?GamerBoy53
It's called being A-sexual (is that even the right word?).

Not everything in this world is either male or female. Some creatures are female only (New Mexico whip-tailed lizards), some creatures are hermaphites (having male and female reproductive organs like snails), some can change from male to female (certain fish species), and some are asexual (most single-cell organisms).

If Yoshi is strange, there are some real-world animals that can lay eggs without conception (chickens, turkeys, and some lizards).

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#44 Maxned
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Wow Nintendo's very own transvestite character. Now they have everything!
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#45 GunSmith1_basic
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well its strange but that officially makes birdo the most interesting character in the mario universe

I dont think that nintendo did this because they are enlightened either. They probably thought it was funny

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#46 SUPER_FLY_
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i knew that a while ago
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#47 69ANT69
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It took you a while to notice that :P
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[QUOTE="KevComesRipping"][QUOTE="vaders_fist"][QUOTE="vaders_fist"][QUOTE="Turbo_Burdo"]

Luigi's a puff?!? Yoshi is a species because in Melee if you watch the beginning part when you dont press anything on the menu screen you see millions of yoshi migrating. This could be the same with birdo. I think Nintendo are trying to change it into a girl because they know they've ruined the character with the whole transexuality saga. It's all because of what's written in that stupid super mario manual.I consider her as a girl. She rocks on MK.

rockwii13

I wouldnt call it ruining a character. Simply making it more complex than Nintendo's target audience would really understand. I dont think that Nintendo is trying to change anything with birdo either. They seem to have gone "this is Birdo, Birdo is trans. Now, lets move on" Birdo is a rather minor character when you think about it. His most important rolls have been in Superstar saga, and SMB2. That and the countless sporting events.

Oh and dude, play any game with luigi and the slightest amount of character development. Luigi is gay no doubt about it.

He's with Daisy man, and doesn't have a problem showing affection either (see; fountains on the Daisy Circuit) unlike Mario who never shows one iota of interest in Peach.

Um, have you never play any Mario game? How many times does he save her? How many times does she kiss his cheek and he says "Yahooooooooooooooooooo!" Have you not played Mario Galaxy? Because at the end he holds Peach's hand.

Um, yes I've played any Mario game, how many Luigi games have you played? 1 I imagine, Luigis mansion, and he was nice enough to save Mario's @ss, bro's before ho's man.

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#49 webbut
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I thought birdo was Yoshi's gf- don't askDog_Dude

i use to think so too being as birdo's nose and Yoshi's nose would make a perfect fit for "procreation"

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#50 monty_4256
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I heard about this a long time ago, but it's not something that stcks in your mind...

anyway birdos not even from a mario game in japan, I wonder if they evewn associate them?