Brawl Online is working SO well today

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#1 shoryuken_
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Has it happened? Did Nintendo finally fixed Brawl online? I've been playing today in random matches, no lag, takes like a minute for 3 other people to join in!!! What's going on?!

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#2 Sepewrath
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Well did you have a problem finding random matches before like many including myself had or was your problem only lag.
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#3 shoryuken_
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i had both

its working really well right now, im not sure why

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#4 Sepewrath
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Well that sucks if it is working suddenly as I just lent my game to someone yesterday.
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#5 OldSkoolGamer04
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You know, I did try to sign on this morning and I kept getting a "Network disconnected" error, which I've never gotten before. Plus, everything else connected to my router, including the Wii itself, worked just fine. Maybe they did do some maintenance.

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#6 OreoMilkshake
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I'm sure if I tried to play it right now, it would still take 20 minutes to find at least 2 people.
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#7 MadSavage22
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I'm sure if I tried to play it right now, it would still take 20 minutes to find at least 2 people.OreoMilkshake

Yeah really..I mean I can go try right now to see whats up but I dont have anyone from these forums as brawl friends LOL.

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#8 shoryuken_
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try random matches, thats what i was doing

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#9 funsohng
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I'm sure if I tried to play it right now, it would still take 20 minutes to find at least 2 people.OreoMilkshake
lucky, i waited 2 hours and havent had a single match. i bought the game on day 1, and i still havent played any online matches.
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#10 painguy1
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if ur having trouble i made a tutorial on how to fix the lag. its in 3 parts.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0fMFOhDBxg

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX-fHPoYIu0

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUNnVd9gd-s

I hope it helps u guys out

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#11 AlmightyDerek
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Brawl online is very dependant on the connection speeds of everybody playing. If everyone has a fast stable connection the game is lag free. If one person has a slow or unstable connection the match is laggy. It actually has nothing to do with the Nintendo servers. Its all luck and the trust that people with crappy internet connections don't play online. The game would work better if it matched people up with like connection speeds.

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#12 MadSavage22
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well Im gonna post my brawl friend code up on the list so if you guys wanna fight then hit me up ok. I have a good connection speed. Oh and I just got on had onl ONE match today and it was laggy as hell!!

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#13 Sepewrath
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Brawl online is very dependant on the connection speeds of everybody playing. If everyone has a fast stable connection the game is lag free. If one person has a slow or unstable connection the match is laggy. It actually has nothing to do with the Nintendo servers. Its all luck and the trust that people with crappy internet connections don't play online. The game would work better if it matched people up with like connection speeds.

AlmightyDerek
Well whats up with the random match issue, I have a good connection I can play Mario Kart Wii worldwide without a problem, I'm in the Uncharted 2 beta on the PS3 without a hiccup, I play my 360 online with no trouble the only game I have a problem with is Brawl, because I simply cant find a match. That's not that's not the fault of my connection.
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It varies person to person. I go online every now and again. I remember playing online like a fiend last summer, there was a thread dedicated to friend codes and the like, however, it is lost with the rest of them. Had the odd lagtastic connection, but for the most part it was a swell lag free time.
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#15 OreoMilkshake
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[QUOTE="AlmightyDerek"]

Brawl online is very dependant on the connection speeds of everybody playing. If everyone has a fast stable connection the game is lag free. If one person has a slow or unstable connection the match is laggy. It actually has nothing to do with the Nintendo servers. Its all luck and the trust that people with crappy internet connections don't play online. The game would work better if it matched people up with like connection speeds.

Sepewrath
Well whats up with the random match issue, I have a good connection I can play Mario Kart Wii worldwide without a problem, I'm in the Uncharted 2 beta on the PS3 without a hiccup, I play my 360 online with no trouble the only game I have a problem with is Brawl, because I simply cant find a match. That's not that's not the fault of my connection.

Exactly. It's the way the game was designed. It could even be the Havok engine because Deadly Creatures uses it and it has terrible framerate problems. I'm just guessing, btw.
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#16 painguy1
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[QUOTE="Sepewrath"][QUOTE="AlmightyDerek"]

Brawl online is very dependant on the connection speeds of everybody playing. If everyone has a fast stable connection the game is lag free. If one person has a slow or unstable connection the match is laggy. It actually has nothing to do with the Nintendo servers. Its all luck and the trust that people with crappy internet connections don't play online. The game would work better if it matched people up with like connection speeds.

OreoMilkshake

Well whats up with the random match issue, I have a good connection I can play Mario Kart Wii worldwide without a problem, I'm in the Uncharted 2 beta on the PS3 without a hiccup, I play my 360 online with no trouble the only game I have a problem with is Brawl, because I simply cant find a match. That's not that's not the fault of my connection.

Exactly. It's the way the game was designed. It could even be the Havok engine because Deadly Creatures uses it and it has terrible framerate problems. I'm just guessing, btw.

Brawl uses havok?

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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="Sepewrath"] Well whats up with the random match issue, I have a good connection I can play Mario Kart Wii worldwide without a problem, I'm in the Uncharted 2 beta on the PS3 without a hiccup, I play my 360 online with no trouble the only game I have a problem with is Brawl, because I simply cant find a match. That's not that's not the fault of my connection. painguy1

Exactly. It's the way the game was designed. It could even be the Havok engine because Deadly Creatures uses it and it has terrible framerate problems. I'm just guessing, btw.

Brawl uses havok?

Yes it does.
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[QUOTE="AlmightyDerek"]

Brawl online is very dependant on the connection speeds of everybody playing. If everyone has a fast stable connection the game is lag free. If one person has a slow or unstable connection the match is laggy. It actually has nothing to do with the Nintendo servers. Its all luck and the trust that people with crappy internet connections don't play online. The game would work better if it matched people up with like connection speeds.

Sepewrath

Well whats up with the random match issue, I have a good connection I can play Mario Kart Wii worldwide without a problem, I'm in the Uncharted 2 beta on the PS3 without a hiccup, I play my 360 online with no trouble the only game I have a problem with is Brawl, because I simply cant find a match. That's not that's not the fault of my connection.

That is the biggest piece of crap I ever heard. I have great fast internet that wired and whenever i go to random matches on ps3 or 360 there is lag in 1/2 matches. Like playing halo there'd always be one or two people stealing internet from their neighbors and they'd make people teleporting everywhere. Same with uncharted but worse. Its been so bad before that once when i was playing online in halo the time just suddenly stopped in the match, and the reason i got annoyed with this was because i was dead and the respawn time stopped too. Saying ps3 and 360 are lagless everytime is the biggest piece of crap invented by fanboys to get people to buy their system.

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#19 Dycras
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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Exactly. It's the way the game was designed. It could even be the Havok engine because Deadly Creatures uses it and it has terrible framerate problems. I'm just guessing, btw.OreoMilkshake

Brawl uses havok?

Yes it does.

The framerate in the game isn't bad though, it works great. I don't think i've ever had framerate drops, only just matches where its like slow motion brawl because of one bad connection.

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#20 MadSavage22
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if ur having trouble i made a tutorial on how to fix the lag. its in 3 parts.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0fMFOhDBxg

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX-fHPoYIu0

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUNnVd9gd-s

I hope it helps u guys out

painguy1

dude....thank you so much I just tried what u said and man that was my best session of brawl I have EVER had online. I love it!! I was kicking ass with Dedede and Wario my god I love it!

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#21 -Skatman-
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Mine has actually been working fine for months...
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Hah, too bad I've got something else to do today...

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#23 Itsthetruth
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if ur having trouble i made a tutorial on how to fix the lag. its in 3 parts.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0fMFOhDBxg

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX-fHPoYIu0

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUNnVd9gd-s

I hope it helps u guys out

painguy1

So all the trouble about brawl online was mostly because people had the definitions wrong and were slowing each other?

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#24 gonzalezj1
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[QUOTE="Sepewrath"][QUOTE="AlmightyDerek"]

Brawl online is very dependant on the connection speeds of everybody playing. If everyone has a fast stable connection the game is lag free. If one person has a slow or unstable connection the match is laggy. It actually has nothing to do with the Nintendo servers. Its all luck and the trust that people with crappy internet connections don't play online. The game would work better if it matched people up with like connection speeds.

Dycras

Well whats up with the random match issue, I have a good connection I can play Mario Kart Wii worldwide without a problem, I'm in the Uncharted 2 beta on the PS3 without a hiccup, I play my 360 online with no trouble the only game I have a problem with is Brawl, because I simply cant find a match. That's not that's not the fault of my connection.

That is the biggest piece of crap I ever heard. I have great fast internet that wired and whenever i go to random matches on ps3 or 360 there is lag in 1/2 matches. Like playing halo there'd always be one or two people stealing internet from their neighbors and they'd make people teleporting everywhere. Same with uncharted but worse. Its been so bad before that once when i was playing online in halo the time just suddenly stopped in the match, and the reason i got annoyed with this was because i was dead and the respawn time stopped too. Saying ps3 and 360 are lagless everytime is the biggest piece of crap invented by fanboys to get people to buy their system.

Ummm... Dude? Sepewrath didn't say a single fanboyish thing in that post. He was just complaining about Brawl's match-finding system. He even mentioned that he's never had a problem with MKWii's online. Maybe you should cool it and make sure you're reading posts correctly before you turn on your fanboy rage.
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I've been satisfied playing the game online with random people since it came out, and I never thought it was as bad as people have tried to make it out to be. Over the past several months the game has ran noticeably smoother though for sure.

You have to understand that every games network infrastructure is setup different. Just because you can get online fine with the majority of your games, doesn't mean that its going to be the same for every game you buy. If your having trouble connecting, or finding matches, its as simple as properly configuring your connection so that it will work with the way the games network is setup. You cannot blame Nintendo for not configuring YOUR connection.

I've never had any problems whatsoever connecting in any online game since the PS2 days, and its probably due to the fact that I'm not firewalled, and the ISP I have (ATT), and the way their network is setup. There are going to always be some server issues whether your connection is perfect or not. These issues will usually resolve themselves after time. These issues seems to occur more at peak hours when a lot of people are on the wifi connection, even when it may not be a large number of people playing the same online game your playing. Its kinda like the servers for all the games are together or something.

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#26 ZumaJones07
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Brawl has been working fine for a very long time now. :? Like someone else said, it's based on your own connection. I play with friends only.
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#27 BrunoBRS
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you shouldnt have said that, now everyone will go online at the same time and the lag will return :lol:
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#28 legend26
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its been working fine for me for the past couple a months :P

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ive had mine since ssbb came out and have yet to have a problem with it
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#30 painguy1
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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

if ur having trouble i made a tutorial on how to fix the lag. its in 3 parts.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0fMFOhDBxg

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX-fHPoYIu0

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUNnVd9gd-s

I hope it helps u guys out

MadSavage22

dude....thank you so much I just tried what u said and man that was my best session of brawl I have EVER had online. I love it!! I was kicking ass with Dedede and Wario my god I love it!

np. anytime =)

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#31 AlmightyDerek
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[QUOTE="AlmightyDerek"]

Brawl online is very dependant on the connection speeds of everybody playing. If everyone has a fast stable connection the game is lag free. If one person has a slow or unstable connection the match is laggy. It actually has nothing to do with the Nintendo servers. Its all luck and the trust that people with crappy internet connections don't play online. The game would work better if it matched people up with like connection speeds.

Sepewrath
Well whats up with the random match issue, I have a good connection I can play Mario Kart Wii worldwide without a problem, I'm in the Uncharted 2 beta on the PS3 without a hiccup, I play my 360 online with no trouble the only game I have a problem with is Brawl, because I simply cant find a match. That's not that's not the fault of my connection.

Many games will automatically try to create a match that's high quality by matching you with people nearby or with good connections. Smash Bros. doesn't discriminate and also is a very fast paced game that lag will effect very much. Most other games don't have to keep track of every move that closely (such as Mario Kart where karts positions are approximated cause it usually doesn't matter if they are in that exact spot.) so you won't notice any lag. Fighting games usually have some lag anyway (even on the other systems). Smash brother's is a four player fighting game that runs at 60fps. Its not hard to screw that up.
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#32 arnelle_jinx
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yeah brawl wifi is pretty so-so for me. this one time, i was playingwith two friends, the game was going fine for a while, then a the last 7 seconds, the game froze and we were waiting there for like 15 mins! but im goin to try that thing on youtube that painguy1 said to go see :)

ooh and btw, if everyone here is playig random people, at my site (in signature) we have loads of people who play wi-fi all the time. And our site is pretty active too so if anyone wants to come and play, we're open for new members :) (also, i just want to say that people at our site are pretty good if you want a challenge... and then there's me O_o LOL kidding im pretty decent)

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#33 painguy1
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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

if ur having trouble i made a tutorial on how to fix the lag. its in 3 parts.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0fMFOhDBxg

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX-fHPoYIu0

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUNnVd9gd-s

I hope it helps u guys out

Itsthetruth

So all the trouble about brawl online was mostly because people had the definitions wrong and were slowing each other?

not exactly, but this helps get rid of interference from nintendos servers. It opens up ur NAT which also causes lag in the 360. I found a similar guide to this on Nintendo, but they didnt go over the static ip part which i go over in this tutorial.

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#34 Nintendiddo
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I hope they fixed it.
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#35 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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Good to hear, I have been getting back into Brawl lately. I played my buddy in California the other day and it worked fine, so I was happy about that.

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#36 trugs26
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Brawl is terrible online for me, way too laggy. It's a pitty too, I'd probably be the best player here. o.o

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ill tell u my wii number and stuff soon enough