Brawls online still fails whoopie

I've refrained from using it other than to get smash service but today I spent a nice chunk of time on it and guess what, it still sucks

I did some random matches and yes the lag from hell returned. In one game it was exceptionally bad and went LITERALLY frame by frame with like 3 second delays between each -.-

all this lag makes it so I can't do anything fancy as I can't time anything right. It NEVER lets me choose the level. Ever. Even when I stay in the same group for a long time. I keep picking delfino isle or norfair and its always final destination

I hate the 2 minute thing. People can win off of dumb luck due to things like the retarted "Who gets the kill" system and people kill steal a lot. I get kirby to 120 damage and I go in for the kill but nope Captain Falcon knocks me out of the way and steals it -.-

Plus I hate items. I always play with them off because they annoy me but nope, I can't.

Oh and I TRIED to do a friend match because I saw one of the people on my friend list was "waiting for brawl 2/4"

I tried to join and it kept telling me things like "this player has changed their status so you have to go back to the main menu and load online again lol"

Then I saw another one of my friends "in brawl" so I waited and waited and waited and either this was the most epicly long battle in history or I kept missing it.

And the part that angers me most is SPECTATOR MODE! Why is it that there is NO lag whatsoever in ANY spectator match but as soon as I try to play I get 1/3 frames per second.

Oh and I want to play a 1 vs 1 match instead of a brawl but nope I can't. One time there were only 2 players but nope, they added comps.

Why does the online fail so hard ._.

makes me concerned about MK

I gave up on random online matches a while ago. Playing with a few guys at your house kills online anyway. Also, they should include the option of Stock. I cant play unless its stock...only way to play for me.

I gave up on random online matches a while ago. Playing with a few guys at your house kills online anyway. Also, they should include the option of Stock. I cant play unless its stock...only way to play for me.

jfkunrendered

same. the time limit thing makes it too easy for someone to get some stupid lucky kill and magically win the whole match

if it was stock that lucky kill wouldn't count for anything and could easily be undone

for me its about a 50/50% chance.

half the time the online works perfectly, and half the time its umplayable

really sucks sometimes.

for me its about a 50/50% chance.

half the time the online works perfectly, and half the time its umplayable

really sucks sometimes.

Innocent_J

I really can't play it most of the time. I sit there and I'm like "this is embarassing because the lag keeps screwing me up"

I know they can't tell who I am but I can't do a simple short hop turtle. He either jumps all the way or starts using the bug gas

The only good part of online is stage sharingstarmetroid

well whats the point if you can't play on that stage together?

[QUOTE="starmetroid"]The only good part of online is stage sharingsnowman6251

well whats the point if you can't play on that stage together?

The only good part of online is stage sharingstarmetroid

I've refrained from using it other than to get smash service but today I spent a nice chunk of time on it and guess what, it still sucks

I did some random matches and yes the lag from hell returned. In one game it was exceptionally bad and went LITERALLY frame by frame with like 3 second delays between each -.-

all this lag makes it so I can't do anything fancy as I can't time anything right. It NEVER lets me choose the level. Ever. Even when I stay in the same group for a long time. I keep picking delfino isle or norfair and its always final destination

I hate the 2 minute thing. People can win off of dumb luck due to things like the retarted "Who gets the kill" system and people kill steal a lot. I get kirby to 120 damage and I go in for the kill but nope Captain Falcon knocks me out of the way and steals it -.-

Plus I hate items. I always play with them off because they annoy me but nope, I can't.

Oh and I TRIED to do a friend match because I saw one of the people on my friend list was "waiting for brawl 2/4"

I tried to join and it kept telling me things like "this player has changed their status so you have to go back to the main menu and load online again lol"

Then I saw another one of my friends "in brawl" so I waited and waited and waited and either this was the most epicly long battle in history or I kept missing it.

And the part that angers me most is SPECTATOR MODE! Why is it that there is NO lag whatsoever in ANY spectator match but as soon as I try to play I get 1/3 frames per second.

Oh and I want to play a 1 vs 1 match instead of a brawl but nope I can't. One time there were only 2 players but nope, they added comps.

Why does the online fail so hard ._.

makes me concerned about MK

snowman6251

If you don't like the zaniness and differentness of Smash Brothers, as well as items, play a different game. As for the online, it could be alot better, but it satisfies me. I just wish everybody would be talking on the phone with the person they are fighting with to see how superior a game is with voice chat.

I know someone earlier said don't use the "but it's free!" argument but here goes: IT'S FREE!! Geez, you get what you pay for, know what I mean? Online on the Wii is just a nice bonus. All the games are built with single player or local multiplayer inmind so online play is just an addition. And the wifi in brawl isn't even that bad to me. Maybe you all just have slow internet connections and just don't realize it. I occasionally have match that's just too laggy to play. But thats in all online games. When you can get in a group with good connnections and just keep playing the same group of people for 10+ matches or so, the online is really fun.

And in the topic post for this thread, snowman says he hates the online because the items make it too unpredicatable and people always steal your kill. Both of those arguments are completely unrelated to the online. That's just a part of the game and if you don't like it, then this may not be the game for you.

Brawl's online is not working very good. But I think Mario Kart Wii will have a much better online. Thiago26792

it does!

Brawl's online is not working very good. But I think Mario Kart Wii will have a much better online. Thiago26792

Why do people not realize that the Brawl online matches are not server based? It's p2p meaning your wii internet connection is making a direct connection to another wii. So if your connection sucks or you connect to someone else with a sucky connection then everyone with a decent to excellent connection will suffer lag until the loser with two tins and a string drops out. Then the game is lag free. Do not try a damn multiplayer online game if you have dialup you make everyone sufffer!!!

It's not Nintendo's fault if you have a sucky expierence in brawl wifi it's your fault for having a crappy internet connection or connecting to people with crappy internet connections.

Here's my problem with this game. I bought this game for playing with my friends and online. The fact they even put online in this game when timing is everything and the lag is ridiculous is beyond me. Why can't they make it so you can find people to play in a lobby?...and why is it only set to time? It just doesn't make sense to me as the publishers seem to not realize the backing this game has from hardcore fans. Another huge problem, though, is the friend codes. Who wants to put in a 15 (?) digit code for every person they play? What's even worse is the other person has to "Accept." Sorry, but they really blew online in this. I love playing with my buddies here, but until Nintendo gets out ofthe 1990's I'll stick to offline.comstrikeiscool

You sir, are so correct, that if a nintendo staff read this, would quit his job. Nintendo has simply failed their fan's for SSB online. I am currently no longer a fan but I'll throw down anyone of my friends at the aprtment looking for a challenge. I have CONSTANT LAG ISSUES when i play online.

I feel your pain...

[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]Here's my problem with this game. I bought this game for playing with my friends and online. The fact they even put online in this game when timing is everything and the lag is ridiculous is beyond me. Why can't they make it so you can find people to play in a lobby?...and why is it only set to time? It just doesn't make sense to me as the publishers seem to not realize the backing this game has from hardcore fans. Another huge problem, though, is the friend codes. Who wants to put in a 15 (?) digit code for every person they play? What's even worse is the other person has to "Accept." Sorry, but they really blew online in this. I love playing with my buddies here, but until Nintendo gets out ofthe 1990's I'll stick to offline.CoreoVII

You sir, are so correct, that if a nintendo staff read this, would quit his job. Nintendo has simply failed their fan's for SSB online. I am currently no longer a fan but I'll throw down anyone of my friends at the aprtment looking for a challenge. I have CONSTANT LAG ISSUES when i play online.

I feel your pain...

So very true, nintendo did fail with ssbb online. And friend codes is really starting to piss me off. They need to get rid of it. I'm no longer willing to go through all the trouble just to add someone to my friends list who i probably won't even play with that much. Hell no.

[QUOTE="snowman6251"]

I've refrained from using it other than to get smash service but today I spent a nice chunk of time on it and guess what, it still sucks

I did some random matches and yes the lag from hell returned. In one game it was exceptionally bad and went LITERALLY frame by frame with like 3 second delays between each -.-

all this lag makes it so I can't do anything fancy as I can't time anything right. It NEVER lets me choose the level. Ever. Even when I stay in the same group for a long time. I keep picking delfino isle or norfair and its always final destination

I hate the 2 minute thing. People can win off of dumb luck due to things like the retarted "Who gets the kill" system and people kill steal a lot. I get kirby to 120 damage and I go in for the kill but nope Captain Falcon knocks me out of the way and steals it -.-

Plus I hate items. I always play with them off because they annoy me but nope, I can't.

Oh and I TRIED to do a friend match because I saw one of the people on my friend list was "waiting for brawl 2/4"

I tried to join and it kept telling me things like "this player has changed their status so you have to go back to the main menu and load online again lol"

Then I saw another one of my friends "in brawl" so I waited and waited and waited and either this was the most epicly long battle in history or I kept missing it.

And the part that angers me most is SPECTATOR MODE! Why is it that there is NO lag whatsoever in ANY spectator match but as soon as I try to play I get 1/3 frames per second.

Oh and I want to play a 1 vs 1 match instead of a brawl but nope I can't. One time there were only 2 players but nope, they added comps.

Why does the online fail so hard ._.

makes me concerned about MK

AguFightingOxy

If you don't like the zaniness and differentness of Smash Brothers, as well as items, play a different game. As for the online, it could be alot better, but it satisfies me. I just wish everybody would be talking on the phone with the person they are fighting with to see how superior a game is with voice chat.

you know theres a reason they allow you to turn all that "zaniness" off. Because not everyone likes it. I find the game is MUCH more fun without stupid crap like "OMG I GOT THE GOLDEN HAMMER! This comepletely makes up for me sucking terribly so now I can stand a chance against good people"

I dislike items and I choose to turn them off and it enhances the experience for me. You like items and leave them on and it enhances the experience for you. Its all opinon so don't come on here and tell me if I don't like items I can't play the game

I know someone earlier said don't use the "but it's free!" argument but here goes: IT'S FREE!! Geez, you get what you pay for, know what I mean? Online on the Wii is just a nice bonus. All the games are built with single player or local multiplayer inmind so online play is just an addition. And the wifi in brawl isn't even that bad to me. Maybe you all just have slow internet connections and just don't realize it. I occasionally have match that's just too laggy to play. But thats in all online games. When you can get in a group with good connnections and just keep playing the same group of people for 10+ matches or so, the online is really fun.

And in the topic post for this thread, snowman says he hates the online because the items make it too unpredicatable and people always steal your kill. Both of those arguments are completely unrelated to the online. That's just a part of the game and if you don't like it, then this may not be the game for you.

pjacobson21

Well in the mode I play neither one of these make a difference. Stock: Kill stealing doesn't matter. The other guy loses a life so I don't care. No Items: I hate items. They annoy me. I turn them off. Problem solved

What i don't understand is that the multiplayer for Strikers was very good. Why couldn't they copy the exact formula?Jazunn

and there's another thing!

people say "its your internet connection. it sucks. get a new one."

strikers works fine for me

MOH, although not from nintendo, works fine for me

BWii works fine for me

Guitar Hero, also not nintendo, works fine for me

I've refrained from using it other than to get smash service but today I spent a nice chunk of time on it and guess what, it still sucks

I did some random matches and yes the lag from hell returned. In one game it was exceptionally bad and went LITERALLY frame by frame with like 3 second delays between each -.-

all this lag makes it so I can't do anything fancy as I can't time anything right. It NEVER lets me choose the level. Ever. Even when I stay in the same group for a long time. I keep picking delfino isle or norfair and its always final destination

I hate the 2 minute thing. People can win off of dumb luck due to things like the retarted "Who gets the kill" system and people kill steal a lot. I get kirby to 120 damage and I go in for the kill but nope Captain Falcon knocks me out of the way and steals it -.-

Plus I hate items. I always play with them off because they annoy me but nope, I can't.

Oh and I TRIED to do a friend match because I saw one of the people on my friend list was "waiting for brawl 2/4"

I tried to join and it kept telling me things like "this player has changed their status so you have to go back to the main menu and load online again lol"

Then I saw another one of my friends "in brawl" so I waited and waited and waited and either this was the most epicly long battle in history or I kept missing it.

And the part that angers me most is SPECTATOR MODE! Why is it that there is NO lag whatsoever in ANY spectator match but as soon as I try to play I get 1/3 frames per second.

Oh and I want to play a 1 vs 1 match instead of a brawl but nope I can't. One time there were only 2 players but nope, they added comps.

Why does the online fail so hard ._.

makes me concerned about MK

snowman6251

Secondly the guy who was brawling was in a random match,and it probably took so long because he was either waiting a long time for players to be found or the game doesn't distinguish whether he was in the random match menu or not.

Third,matches that are replayed don't show any lag at all.Try it for yourself if you don't belive me.

Fourth, computers are only added every other time there is a person or two missing in Basic Brawl.

[QUOTE="snowman6251"]

I've refrained from using it other than to get smash service but today I spent a nice chunk of time on it and guess what, it still sucks

I did some random matches and yes the lag from hell returned. In one game it was exceptionally bad and went LITERALLY frame by frame with like 3 second delays between each -.-

all this lag makes it so I can't do anything fancy as I can't time anything right. It NEVER lets me choose the level. Ever. Even when I stay in the same group for a long time. I keep picking delfino isle or norfair and its always final destination

I hate the 2 minute thing. People can win off of dumb luck due to things like the retarted "Who gets the kill" system and people kill steal a lot. I get kirby to 120 damage and I go in for the kill but nope Captain Falcon knocks me out of the way and steals it -.-

Plus I hate items. I always play with them off because they annoy me but nope, I can't.

Oh and I TRIED to do a friend match because I saw one of the people on my friend list was "waiting for brawl 2/4"

I tried to join and it kept telling me things like "this player has changed their status so you have to go back to the main menu and load online again lol"

Then I saw another one of my friends "in brawl" so I waited and waited and waited and either this was the most epicly long battle in history or I kept missing it.

And the part that angers me most is SPECTATOR MODE! Why is it that there is NO lag whatsoever in ANY spectator match but as soon as I try to play I get 1/3 frames per second.

Oh and I want to play a 1 vs 1 match instead of a brawl but nope I can't. One time there were only 2 players but nope, they added comps.

Why does the online fail so hard ._.

makes me concerned about MK

Triforce108

Secondly the guy who was brawling was in a random match,and it probably took so long because he was either waiting a long time for players to be found or the game doesn't distinguish whether he was in the random match menu or not.

Third,match that are replayed don't show any lag at all.Try it for yourself if you don't belive me.

Fourth, comps are only added every other time there is a person or two missing in Basic Brawl.

first: that's lame because I can only handle so much final destination

second: it wasn't a random match. It says "in basic brawl" if you're in a random match. His said "brawling" or something

third: I've noticed that. I just didn't know spectator mode was replays

fourth: why do they have to add comps. A one on one match would be awesome but they have to go and add 2 level 3 comps which are basically just kill farms and take out a lot of fun

first: that's lame because I can only handle so much final destination

second: it wasn't a random match. It says "in basic brawl" if you're in a random match. His said "brawling" or something

third: I've noticed that. I just didn't know spectator mode was replays

fourth: why do they have to add comps. A one on one match would be awesome but they have to go and add 2 level 3 comps which are basically just kill farms and take out a lot of fun

snowman6251

There were so many quotes my message wouldn't fit...

Maybe you could get lucky withou map or other people will avoid Final Destination at all costs.

You didn't read all of my second point...I said that he might be just in the Random Match menu... -_-

Atleast its only every other time.

There were so many quotes my message wouldn't fit...

Triforce108

you could get rid of the quotes ._.

I did some random matches and yes the lag from hell returned.snowman6251

I played basic brawl for about an hour this morning. The first match disconnected after about thirty seconds, but it wasn't lagging before that. I had zero lag problems after that. This has been typical for the last two weeks or so. Only the occasional match will have lag.

It NEVER lets me choose the level. Ever. Even when I stay in the same group for a long time. I keep picking delfino isle or norfair and its always final destinationsnowman6251

I haven't found that to be true at all. Final destination does show up too much, but my stage is chosen often enough for me.

I get kirby to 120 damage and I go in for the kill but nope Captain Falcon knocks me out of the way and steals it -.-snowman6251

That's just part of the game. Your job is to prevent people from stealing your kills.

Plus I hate items. I always play with them off because they annoy me but nope, I can't.snowman6251

The first three matches I played today were item-less. If you turn off items, it increases your chances to play without items.

Basic Brawl wasn't meant to be a mode full of options. It was meant to be something that you can play immediately. If it were full of options, you'd have to wait for the system to find people who wanted to play with the same options as you do. That would suck.

All I can suggest is that you add more people to your friends list. Then you can have much more control over how you want to play online.

the random online matches work if you're willing to wait with people

but the way to go is just to take the time to add some people from the friend list - i spent 3-4 hours this morning playing tons of matches - if you're on facebook add the smash brothers net application - it's awesome and finds people in your area! you can add people and there's also a live chat room for easy setting up matches.

[QUOTE="Innocent_J"]

for me its about a 50/50% chance.

half the time the online works perfectly, and half the time its umplayable

really sucks sometimes.

snowman6251

I really can't play it most of the time. I sit there and I'm like "this is embarassing because the lag keeps screwing me up"

I know they can't tell who I am but I can't do a simple short hop turtle. He either jumps all the way or starts using the bug gas

And the part that angers me most is SPECTATOR MODE! Why is it that there is NO lag whatsoever in ANY spectator match but as soon as I try to play I get 1/3 frames per second.

snowman6251

to answer this question, specator mode is actually recorded games. They aren't matches happening when you watch them, they've been recorded from before and the lag isn't shown. I'm pretty sure that's why.