Chinatown wars ...flop ?DS market too kiddy?think again

Gamespot some months ago claimed mature games wouldnt work on the DS.That GTA proved that the market of mature games wasnt on the DS, starting with only 66k a week.By contrast, the market of PSP was better for said game given how mature they were.Months later, an enhanced version of the game releases on the PSP.

66k (now very respectable 750k) in the first week for the ds because DS is too casual?what does gamespot then says about 12k on the PSP?what excuse can they provide?A few months later?so psp owners are at the same time the ds mature owners?meaning that the 60 million playerbase of the PSP only has 750 k owners AND they also own DS´s?Please.

the reason this GTA sold slowly but finally much better on the DS and downright horribly on the PSP has nothing to do with market. Sure DS market is bigger(but PSP market isnt small either). While CW is a fantastic game, is hard to associate it with the 3d GTAS(as,for instance, the COP Recruit does). While i maintained this from the release, lots of naysayers insisted that the game sold poorly due to be on the DS and not the PSP. Well, this weeks results show brutally differently and prove my point(written months ago in these forums).A top down GTA is not gonna sell as a 3d one.

If liberty citiy stories had been released on the DS, the sales would have been also very encouraging.

Now gamespot will stay silent on this topic. If the DS sells "Only" 66k of GTA is because is a kiddy console(and a headline news)... But if it sells 12k on the psp is because..their theory goes down the drain and they better keep it quiet.

well the PSP is a platform with serious piracy problems. the first GTA sold 5 million + on it then the 2nd sold 3 million

software sells very poorly on it

unlike DS, where even with poor results, games often have lengthy sale lifes

The PSP itself isn't a big seller to begin with, so that explains part of it.SpiralStairsS

well the PSP is a platform with serious piracy problems. the first GTA sold 5 million + on it then the 2nd sold 3 million

software sells very poorly on it

unlike DS, where even with poor results, games often have lengthy sale lifes

darth-pyschosis

The main problem is piracy, not the audience.

PSP's sold like crap because everyone with a PSP also had their hands on a special battery at one point. Try looking for a torrent and see how many leechers are getting it.

PSP's sold like crap because everyone with a PSP also had their hands on a special battery at one point. Try looking for a torrent and see how many leechers are getting it.

bubbleboyii

A PSP must be a more kiddie console than the DS but GameSpot doesn't want to admit it (or report it) because it has a TEH GRAFIX bias.

Or there were no mention of the PSP getting a port. How were casual gamers supposed to know it was on the PSP when there wasn't any advertisement for it?

Or there were no mention of the PSP getting a port. How were casual gamers supposed to know it was on the PSP when there wasn't any advertisement for it?

Ragnarok1051

The main problem is piracy, not the audience.

awssk8er716

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Or there were no mention of the PSP getting a port. How were casual gamers supposed to know it was on the PSP when there wasn't any advertisement for it?

intro94

Or there were no mention of the PSP getting a port. How were casual gamers supposed to know it was on the PSP when there wasn't any advertisement for it?

Ragnarok1051

so GTA sells 8 million copies of GTA games on PSP before this, it has plenty of commercials and advertising, and it isn't disapointing?

it debuted on DS in a market that wasn't used to buying those types of games, it ended up selling well over a long period and making rockstar over $20 million in the process

it could do the same for this other platform its on

it may not

but 12k in one week? Ouch. Thats pretty bad. the consumer base is there. i think its more a statement how no one buys software on the PSP anymore (post 2008) and i fear for PSP gamers that take two may look into this lack of sales as a reason to drop PSP support for titles like GTA

it'd be more of a statement if this sells worse than the DS version as it already has an 8 million established userbase where as the DS version earned every single new customer

Its extremely easy to pirate games on handhelds. Might be one of the reasons.

[QUOTE="intro94"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Or there were no mention of the PSP getting a port. How were casual gamers supposed to know it was on the PSP when there wasn't any advertisement for it?

Ragnarok1051

It think its because no one really wants a 2d GTA game. chansaet

[QUOTE="chansaet"]It think its because no one really wants a 2d GTA game. intro94

but everyone wants good games,no matter what in the end so GTA:CW is the highest rated handheld game this gen, so.........

Sorry, but you are wrong. PSP games don't sell well because of piracy.

Piracy + 0 marketting (even the DS version had television ads) = poor sales. It's really a no brainer. Even "low sellers" like Crisis Core and Chains of Olympus sold decently on the PSP when they had proper marketting.

[QUOTE="intro94"][QUOTE="chansaet"]It think its because no one really wants a 2d GTA game. darth-pyschosis

but everyone wants good games,no matter what in the end so GTA:CW is the highest rated handheld game this gen, so.........

Using that logic games like Okami (which was released on the PS2 and the Wii) and Psychonauts should've been big sellers no problem.

This is the DS Forum, not System Wars. We should not be talking about the PSP here.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

Or there were no mention of the PSP getting a port. How were casual gamers supposed to know it was on the PSP when there wasn't any advertisement for it?

darth-pyschosis

so GTA sells 8 million copies of GTA games on PSP before this, it has plenty of commercials and advertising, and it isn't disapointing?

it debuted on DS in a market that wasn't used to buying those types of games, it ended up selling well over a long period and making rockstar over $20 million in the process

it could do the same for this other platform its on

it may not

but 12k in one week? Ouch. Thats pretty bad. the consumer base is there. i think its more a statement how no one buys software on the PSP anymore (post 2008) and i fear for PSP gamers that take two may look into this lack of sales as a reason to drop PSP support for titles like GTA

it'd be more of a statement if this sells worse than the DS version as it already has an 8 million established userbase where as the DS version earned every single new customer

Monster Hunter Freedom Unite may have come out last year, but it continued to sell well through a large part of 2009. Dissidia: Final Fantasy came out at the very tail end of 2008, and had no problem getting over a million sales.

Gran Turismo PSP had a solid debut, selling 227,485 units in its first week. It just came out, so we'll have to wait and see what the final sales are. Now that so many PSP games are up on PSN for digital download, though, it's clear that we won't be able to rely on retail sales to tell the whole story.

I think hyped games that appeal to Japanese audiences will continue to get strong sales. The North American market, though, is looking weak. Probably not a good sign for AC: Bloodlines.

the only GTA that really appealed to me was GTA:vice city, all other games just arent intressting in my eyes

This is the DS Forum, not System Wars. We should not be talking about the PSP here.

hashabnelah

Piracy + 0 marketting (even the DS version had television ads) = poor sales. It's really a no brainer. Even "low sellers" like Crisis Core and Chains of Olympus sold decently on the PSP when they had proper marketting.

Lionheart08

It's getting more marking here than the DS version.

The PSP itself isn't a big seller to begin with, so that explains part of it.SpiralStairsS

Its simply because this game looks like 5 steps back from the ones on psp already, You can say all you want as to how great it is, but after GTA 2 I will never play a top down GTA again, they are utter crap no matter how much stuff just on the basis on controlling things.

it should have been a PSP game from the start. Instead it became a DS port to PSP... I bet that got the fans happy...

[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

The main problem is piracy, not the audience.

raahsnavj

the apprentice becomes the master... nintendo itself is a family platform anyway so this is what, the first M rated DS game? Who cares, you play one GTA, you played them all. Steal a car, run people over, drive-by shooting, it is all the same ;except now you go back to 2d and everything looks blocky and pixelated, great changes....

it should have been a PSP game from the start. Instead it became a DS port to PSP... I bet that got the fans happy...

[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

The main problem is piracy, not the audience.

raahsnavj

clap clap clap 110% right there

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Piracy + 0 marketting (even the DS version had television ads) = poor sales. It's really a no brainer. Even "low sellers" like Crisis Core and Chains of Olympus sold decently on the PSP when they had proper marketting.

Burning-Sludge

It's getting more marking here than the DS version.

Where exactly is "here"?