Could Nintendo fix/upgrade SSBB Online?

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#1 hanman9
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Is it possible?

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#2 JuarN18
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I think they can
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#3 LegatoSkyheart
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They can fix online in general through firmware updates. but Friend codes will still be there.

BTW playing a Friend using Friend Codes isn't that bad. it's Matchmaking that sucks.

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#4 ekalbtwin
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Sure they could, but after handfuls of laggy and timed out matches I have this feeling that the on line was a rush job that was not given mush attention. My bet is the next one with have super online and will be out withing the next twenty years.... sigh.
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#5 starwarsjunky
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They can fix online in general through firmware updates. but Friend codes will still be there.

BTW playing a Friend using Friend Codes isn't that bad. it's Matchmaking that sucks.

LegatoSkyheart
too bad friend codes are such a pain...
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It's too boring and slow for me..... that's why I never do it
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#7 hanman9
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i still play but many of my friends never go on anymore, could do with a few more if anyone is up for a brawl?

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#8 KBFloYd
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im fine the way it is but yea id like:

1vs1 option, no items option, and leaderboards.

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#9 AlmightyDerek
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The reason Smash Bros doesn't always work well online is because it's a direct connection between all the players. It's entirely dependent on the speed of everyone's internet connection. If they are all fast then Smash Bros is smooth and if one person has a slow/bad connection it ruins the match. Also the game is so fast paced and it has to keep track of almost every move perfectly, unlike Mario Kart, so it's very vulnerable to lag. Nintendo can't just fix their servers because they aren't used. There are no patches for Nintendo games so they can't update it and the only thing they could do to make it work better is match people by similar ping which would reduce the problem. The only way they could fix that though is too send out new discs to everyone and that probably won't happen. Unless you get friend codes of people who live near you and set up a good friend match then your only bet is luck that everyone you play has a good connection.

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#10 Regent192
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The reason Smash Bros doesn't always work well online is because it's a direct connection between all the players. It's entirely dependent on the speed of everyone's internet connection. If they are all fast then Smash Bros is smooth and if one person has a slow/bad connection it ruins the match. Also the game is so fast paced and it has to keep track of almost every move perfectly, unlike Mario Kart, so it's very vulnerable to lag. Nintendo can't just fix their servers because they aren't used. There are no patches for Nintendo games so they can't update it and the only thing they could do to make it work better is match people by similar ping which would reduce the problem. The only way they could fix that though is too send out new discs to everyone and that probably won't happen. Unless you get friend codes of people who live near you and set up a good friend match then your only bet is luck that everyone you play has a good connection.

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this makes sense

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The reason Smash Bros doesn't always work well online is because it's a direct connection between all the players. It's entirely dependent on the speed of everyone's internet connection. If they are all fast then Smash Bros is smooth and if one person has a slow/bad connection it ruins the match. Also the game is so fast paced and it has to keep track of almost every move perfectly, unlike Mario Kart, so it's very vulnerable to lag. Nintendo can't just fix their servers because they aren't used. There are no patches for Nintendo games so they can't update it and the only thing they could do to make it work better is match people by similar ping which would reduce the problem. The only way they could fix that though is too send out new discs to everyone and that probably won't happen. Unless you get friend codes of people who live near you and set up a good friend match then your only bet is luck that everyone you play has a good connection.

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My thoughts exactly, though I've really never experience a terrible match unless someone else was using my bandwidth on my network. If my little brother is playing Battlefield bad company online on his PS3 and I'm trying to play brawl, then the match begins to tank badly. If not, I usually have smooth matches....
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#12 hanman9
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The reason Smash Bros doesn't always work well online is because it's a direct connection between all the players. It's entirely dependent on the speed of everyone's internet connection. If they are all fast then Smash Bros is smooth and if one person has a slow/bad connection it ruins the match. Also the game is so fast paced and it has to keep track of almost every move perfectly, unlike Mario Kart, so it's very vulnerable to lag. Nintendo can't just fix their servers because they aren't used. There are no patches for Nintendo games so they can't update it and the only thing they could do to make it work better is match people by similar ping which would reduce the problem. The only way they could fix that though is too send out new discs to everyone and that probably won't happen. Unless you get friend codes of people who live near you and set up a good friend match then your only bet is luck that everyone you play has a good connection.

AlmightyDerek
Is there no chance Nintendo could make a downloadable patch to update it?
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#13 Rot461
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I think they can make a patch, but i dont think they're going to do it.
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I'm pretty sure they can but I don't think they'll do. You're referring to anonymous play, right? I've tried with FC and it works just fine Regards
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#15 19061980
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They could patch it but the only way they could do it is a bit convoluted.

The'd have to release it as a new channel. You would have to boot the game from the channel, it would feature all the updated material plus any data it needs it could read from the disk.

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#16 LegatoSkyheart
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im fine the way it is but yea id like:

1vs1 option, no items option, and leaderboards.

KBFloYd

Go play Tatsunoko vs Capcom cause that's not Smash Bros. at All.

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#17 KBFloYd
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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

im fine the way it is but yea id like:

1vs1 option, no items option, and leaderboards.

LegatoSkyheart

Go play Tatsunoko vs Capcom cause that's not Smash Bros. at All.

comon legato... thats OG competition smash. well, at least for the n64 one :P

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#18 donaldo1989
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my thoughts exactly, that is the great thing about brawl, it can be played at so many different levels and ways, but wifi random really tends to restrict this though
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#19 AlmightyDerek
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They could patch it but the only way they could do it is a bit convoluted.

The'd have to release it as a new channel. You would have to boot the game from the channel, it would feature all the updated material plus any data it needs it could read from the disk.

19061980
I suppose that could be possible. The Wii is capable of patches now but games have to be programmed to accept future patches which Smash Bros probably isn't. That's why it's not possible to patch it. I guess a channel that uses the assets off the disc would in theory work, but the chances of Nintendo actually doing this is pretty small.
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#20 intro94
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The reason Smash Bros doesn't always work well online is because it's a direct connection between all the players. It's entirely dependent on the speed of everyone's internet connection. If they are all fast then Smash Bros is smooth and if one person has a slow/bad connection it ruins the match. Also the game is so fast paced and it has to keep track of almost every move perfectly, unlike Mario Kart, so it's very vulnerable to lag. Nintendo can't just fix their servers because they aren't used. There are no patches for Nintendo games so they can't update it and the only thing they could do to make it work better is match people by similar ping which would reduce the problem. The only way they could fix that though is too send out new discs to everyone and that probably won't happen. Unless you get friend codes of people who live near you and set up a good friend match then your only bet is luck that everyone you play has a good connection.

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yes but your point is flawed in many areas. First of all, through Nintendo Wi fi, another 4 man fighting game for DS( Bleach), has much less lag issues.Not to mention all the other online fighters have No matchmaking issues or such heavy lag issues(except! TK3). 2ndly the biggest problem of Brawl is the matchmaking. Half of these forum goers simply can never (meaning literally, never)find an oponent online. 3rd, some wii games offer small netcode patches that allow post launch fixes. Treyarch fixed some online problems this way for Reflex. However the game itself has to be prepared to accept these post launch fixes. Brawl is not such a game and can not be fixed unless nintendo rereleased. The real issue with brawl is that the netcode programmed for it was poor and not adapted for american networks.While there are a few workarounds messing with your ip and router, thats unnaceptable while the rest of games dont ask you to.
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#21 intro94
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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

im fine the way it is but yea id like:

1vs1 option, no items option, and leaderboards.

Go play Tatsunoko vs Capcom cause that's not Smash Bros. at All.

comon legato... thats OG competition smash. well, at least for the n64 one :P

that is smash for the average tourney alright.And ban meta lol.
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#22 LegatoSkyheart
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comon legato... thats OG competition smash. well, at least for the n64 one :P

KBFloYd

exactly, I hate people that play "Tourney rules". It ruins the game. If there's going to be a Tournament I'd say put everything On and choose the most difficult of stages, True players of the Game would survive the obsticles the game would give out.