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#1 nintenjoe3
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Basically, everything they added, we had expected from them a year ago. and everything we expected from them, we didn't get. Sure there's added voice chat and ally mode, but those are things that were kinda bare minimum. I just noticed this when I played it on PS3. The wii version doesn't have: Customizable sights, face paint, emblems, decent graphics, SPLITSCREEN, at least 4 of the killstreaks, at least 2 of the attatchments, and a bunch more that I can't even remember. Seriously treyarch? wtf? ESPECIALLY SPLITSCREEN! How could you possibly "forget" splitscreen? It's a staple of the frachise!! anyways...comments? thoughts? rage?

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#2 elbert_b_23
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everyone got screwed over on black ops its a embarrassment of a game on any system but at least they finally gave wii version a zombie mode even if its only one map
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#3 alexh_99
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you really care that much about face paint and dot colours? Seriously?

Yes split screen is a bummer, but the wii isn't powerful enough for it. Be grateful we got zombies, a great online, voice chat etc.

stop complaining

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Basically, everything they added, we had expected from them a year ago. and everything we expected from them, we didn't get. Sure there's added voice chat and ally mode, but those are things that were kinda bare minimum. I just noticed this when I played it on PS3. The wii version doesn't have: Customizable sights, face paint, emblems, decent graphics, SPLITSCREEN, at least 4 of the killstreaks, at least 2 of the attatchments, and a bunch more that I can't even remember. Seriously treyarch? wtf? ESPECIALLY SPLITSCREEN! How could you possibly "forget" splitscreen? It's a staple of the frachise!! anyways...comments? thoughts? rage?

nintenjoe3

The Wii isn't strong enough for split screen

Wii owners should only want online games, it gets the most out of the hardware

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[QUOTE="nintenjoe3"]

Basically, everything they added, we had expected from them a year ago. and everything we expected from them, we didn't get. Sure there's added voice chat and ally mode, but those are things that were kinda bare minimum. I just noticed this when I played it on PS3. The wii version doesn't have: Customizable sights, face paint, emblems, decent graphics, SPLITSCREEN, at least 4 of the killstreaks, at least 2 of the attatchments, and a bunch more that I can't even remember. Seriously treyarch? wtf? ESPECIALLY SPLITSCREEN! How could you possibly "forget" splitscreen? It's a staple of the frachise!! anyways...comments? thoughts? rage?

Jaysonguy

The Wii isn't strong enough for split screen

Wii owners should only want online games, it gets the most out of the hardware

Oh Jasonguy, how you amuse me. :)

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#6 Rod90
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[QUOTE="nintenjoe3"]

Basically, everything they added, we had expected from them a year ago. and everything we expected from them, we didn't get. Sure there's added voice chat and ally mode, but those are things that were kinda bare minimum. I just noticed this when I played it on PS3. The wii version doesn't have: Customizable sights, face paint, emblems, decent graphics, SPLITSCREEN, at least 4 of the killstreaks, at least 2 of the attatchments, and a bunch more that I can't even remember. Seriously treyarch? wtf? ESPECIALLY SPLITSCREEN! How could you possibly "forget" splitscreen? It's a staple of the frachise!! anyways...comments? thoughts? rage?

Jaysonguy

The Wii isn't strong enough for split screen

Wii owners should only want online games, it gets the most out of the hardware

We do have splitcreen FPS games on the Wii. And more coming up.
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#7 cinemax237
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so if you guys don't get the new DLC are you guys going to be even more mad? :-)

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#8 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="nintenjoe3"]

Basically, everything they added, we had expected from them a year ago. and everything we expected from them, we didn't get. Sure there's added voice chat and ally mode, but those are things that were kinda bare minimum. I just noticed this when I played it on PS3. The wii version doesn't have: Customizable sights, face paint, emblems, decent graphics, SPLITSCREEN, at least 4 of the killstreaks, at least 2 of the attatchments, and a bunch more that I can't even remember. Seriously treyarch? wtf? ESPECIALLY SPLITSCREEN! How could you possibly "forget" splitscreen? It's a staple of the frachise!! anyways...comments? thoughts? rage?

Rod90

The Wii isn't strong enough for split screen

Wii owners should only want online games, it gets the most out of the hardware

We do have splitcreen FPS games on the Wii. And more coming up.

Yes, games with weak visuals that can run more then once on the Wii's hardware

Call of Duty barely runs once on the Wii's hardware, there's no way that they could ever make it run twice

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[QUOTE="Rod90"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The Wii isn't strong enough for split screen

Wii owners should only want online games, it gets the most out of the hardware

Jaysonguy

We do have splitcreen FPS games on the Wii. And more coming up.

Yes, games with weak visuals that can run more then once on the Wii's hardware

Call of Duty barely runs once on the Wii's hardware, there's no way that they could ever make it run twice

Goldeneye's visuals far exceed Black Ops and it runs 4 player splitscreen just fine :/ Unless these people mean Campaign splitscreen, in which case I agree with you, theres no way it would maintain as good visuals as it has running it for two seperate people at once.

@TC, I honestly don't care too much for the features removed, I got the same crappy campaign and the same good multiplayer the 360 did (with better online than the PS3 with all the horrendous problems its been having with the game), and Nazi Zombies which is my main reason for buying it.... and all for ten bucks cheaper.

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#10 DoomedSonic
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In Call Of Duty (COD) Black ops there is 2 zombie maps.. Actually 3 if you count the dead ops arcade.
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[QUOTE="Rod90"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

The Wii isn't strong enough for split screen

Wii owners should only want online games, it gets the most out of the hardware

Jaysonguy

We do have splitcreen FPS games on the Wii. And more coming up.

Yes, games with weak visuals that can run more then once on the Wii's hardware

Call of Duty barely runs once on the Wii's hardware, there's no way that they could ever make it run twice

Yeah but a game like Goldeneye has splitscreen and online. I think Treyarch is just lazy and should of obviously added splitscreen.

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#12 haziqonfire
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Must be something with the hardware/memory limitations. Even so, Black Ops is a good effort on the platform, there aren't any better FPS titles on the Wii.
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#13 almossbb
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didnt get black ops for either my ps3 or wii, but the way you mentioned it does make it seem like a bummer.

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#14 redlightstudios
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After watching tons of Wii footage on youtube, I will never go back to buying a FPS on the Wii. It lags like crazy (I don't remember Conduit doing all that, at least not that much even if it wasn't that great of a game), there is missing content, and the visuals are absolutely horrible.

Don't get me wrong, the Wii is a fun system, but don't expect the exact same thing when it comes to other consoles. You don't buy a SRT4 Dodge Caliber, and expect it to handle and drive like a Porsche do you? It's just not going to happen. Even the great Nintendo can't pull off online correctly with the system (Smash bros says hello)

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After watching tons of Wii footage on youtube, I will never go back to buying a FPS on the Wii. It lags like crazy (I don't remember Conduit doing all that, at least not that much even if it wasn't that great of a game), there is missing content, and the visuals are absolutely horrible.

Don't get me wrong, the Wii is a fun system, but don't expect the exact same thing when it comes to other consoles. You don't buy a SRT4 Dodge Caliber, and expect it to handle and drive like a Porsche do you? It's just not going to happen. Even the great Nintendo can't pull off online correctly with the system (Smash bros says hello)

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Online didnt really lag for me :?
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#16 Rod90
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Rod90"] We do have splitcreen FPS games on the Wii. And more coming up.flyingtorso2

Yes, games with weak visuals that can run more then once on the Wii's hardware

Call of Duty barely runs once on the Wii's hardware, there's no way that they could ever make it run twice

Yeah but a game like Goldeneye has splitscreen and online. I think Treyarch is just lazy and should of obviously added splitscreen.

Conduit 2 will have splitcreen multiplayer too.
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Basically, everything they added, we had expected from them a year ago. and everything we expected from them, we didn't get. Sure there's added voice chat and ally mode, but those are things that were kinda bare minimum. I just noticed this when I played it on PS3. The wii version doesn't have: Customizable sights, face paint, emblems, decent graphics, SPLITSCREEN, at least 4 of the killstreaks, at least 2 of the attatchments, and a bunch more that I can't even remember. Seriously treyarch? wtf? ESPECIALLY SPLITSCREEN! How could you possibly "forget" splitscreen? It's a staple of the frachise!! anyways...comments? thoughts? rage?

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if nintendo did release a better hardware you would get a 1:1 ps3/360 port , get another console if you want the full experience
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#18 locopatho
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Yeah I was gonna get this one for Wii until I found out about no split screen, in a multiplayer game thats insta fail.

you really care that much about face paint and dot colours? Seriously?

Yes split screen is a bummer, but the wii isn't powerful enough for it. Be grateful we got zombies, a great online, voice chat etc.

stop complaining

alexh_99

The N64 was strong enough for splitscreen :?

Edit: And I bloody HATE people saying "be thankful for scraps". It's people like that who are thankful for anything that are the problem. I get called a Wii hater for demanding good stuff from devs instead of accepting every little thing as a gift from god.

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#19 Guovssohas
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To me this is easily the best shooter in the Wii. I'm really enjoying it and i'm now 3rd prestige. The only thing i really miss is split-screen and theater mode, but i understand why it's not there. With less processing power and RAM than a cell phone(!) it just isn't possible. I really don't care about the rest. If you hate the game because of some missing stuff, go get a ps360, it's that easy!
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#20 TheColbert
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This is part of the reason I bought a 360. Not the little details you are complaining about but the whole picture in that multi-plat Wii games are almost always cut down versions of the HD consoles. Sometime its the controls scheme that is bad and others its no effort on the graphics.
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To be honest, Treyarch have done the best they can with the Wii's hardware, and since the Wii never had MW2, this is the next big thing.
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#22 alexh_99
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Yeah I was gonna get this one for Wii until I found out about no split screen, in a multiplayer game thats insta fail. [QUOTE="alexh_99"]

you really care that much about face paint and dot colours? Seriously?

Yes split screen is a bummer, but the wii isn't powerful enough for it. Be grateful we got zombies, a great online, voice chat etc.

stop complaining

locopatho

The N64 was strong enough for splitscreen :?

Edit: And I bloody HATE people saying "be thankful for scraps". It's people like that who are thankful for anything that are the problem. I get called a Wii hater for demanding good stuff from devs instead of accepting every little thing as a gift from god.

The wii isn't powerful enough for splitscreen zombies. Regular splitscreen is still much harder on the wii than on the n64. Everyone needs to point at the screen, but they only get 1/4th of it as their own. It is tough to do. I understand that goldeneye did splitscreen, but CoD came out around the same time as it and treyarch probably didnt have enough time ti implement it. Maybe for CoD 9
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The N64 was strong enough for splitscreen :?

Edit: And I bloody HATE people saying "be thankful for scraps". It's people like that who are thankful for anything that are the problem. I get called a Wii hater for demanding good stuff from devs instead of accepting every little thing as a gift from god.

locopatho

It's different with the combination of things required on the Wii. Also I think most people in general would want an online mode over a split screen mode. Also the Wii can't really get the same things offered on other platforms, the hardware is lacking.

It's still impressive the amount of content the Wii version got compared to the hardware it's running on.

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#24 DaBrainz
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PS3 version doesn't have move support so to me its inferior to the Wii version. DA is on its way out for FPS.

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Basically, everything they added, we had expected from them a year ago. and everything we expected from them, we didn't get. Sure there's added voice chat and ally mode, but those are things that were kinda bare minimum. I just noticed this when I played it on PS3. The wii version doesn't have: Customizable sights, face paint, emblems, decent graphics, SPLITSCREEN, at least 4 of the killstreaks, at least 2 of the attatchments, and a bunch more that I can't even remember. Seriously treyarch? wtf? ESPECIALLY SPLITSCREEN! How could you possibly "forget" splitscreen? It's a staple of the frachise!! anyways...comments? thoughts? rage?

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* Customizable sights? face Paint? Emblems? WHO CARES?? The lack of them isn't ground-breaking * The graphics are good * Splitscreen? COD is about online. And the maps aren't for 4 players, you'll spend an hour looking for your opponent and then get shot from behind.
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#26 LastRambo341
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To be honest, Treyarch have done the best they can with the Wii's hardware, and since the Wii never had MW2, this is the next big thing.loopy_101
Meaning that MW2 will come to the Wii
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[QUOTE="loopy_101"]To be honest, Treyarch have done the best they can with the Wii's hardware, and since the Wii never had MW2, this is the next big thing.LastRambo341
Meaning that MW2 will come to the Wii

yea i hope they bring MW2 this year :P just to say i played it :(

anyway.. treyearch gave it to us good... i say you put some vasoline on there and call it a day :(

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COD sucks BF BC2 is better.

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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="loopy_101"]To be honest, Treyarch have done the best they can with the Wii's hardware, and since the Wii never had MW2, this is the next big thing.KBFloYd

Meaning that MW2 will come to the Wii

yea i hope they bring MW2 this year :P just to say i played it :(

anyway.. treyearch gave it to us good... i say you put some vasoline on there and call it a day :(

I generally dont like CoD games except for zombies, but MW2 was an amazing game and I would love if it game to the Wii

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Rod90"] We do have splitcreen FPS games on the Wii. And more coming up.flyingtorso2

Yes, games with weak visuals that can run more then once on the Wii's hardware

Call of Duty barely runs once on the Wii's hardware, there's no way that they could ever make it run twice

Yeah but a game like Goldeneye has splitscreen and online. I think Treyarch is just lazy and should of obviously added splitscreen.

well the issue here is not that if WII can do split screen. GE looks pretty good(BUT is arguably if its overall better than BO wii), i mean, mp maps on BO are WAY bigger and WAY more detailed. 2ndly, GE has a custom wii engine, whereas BO has a wii version of the MW engine. Is a whole different beast.Sure they could do a tailored wii version engine, but why would they spend so much for the wii version while PS3 and 360 run on the same one for the price of 1?Is not fair. I think Split screen isnt a stapple of COD anyway, whoever got that idea? Goldeneye sure, But COD?really?nah.

Yes i believe Wii BO could have had split screen with further engine tweaking.The issue is that devs didnt think that was cost effective for the wii market and they were probably right. I wouldnt really try split screen unless it was online and even so. After all, even Mario Kart Wii runs slower if you use split screen online.

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#31 intro94
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[QUOTE="loopy_101"]To be honest, Treyarch have done the best they can with the Wii's hardware, and since the Wii never had MW2, this is the next big thing.LastRambo341
Meaning that MW2 will come to the Wii

oh please, MW2 i hope never comes to the wii.BO is way superior in balance terms and lack of balance takes TOO much from fun in competitive games.I played both to death and honestly maybe i would like a couple of maps from MW2 but otherwise it would be going backwards.Now MW3 would be something...
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#32 tocool340
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Yes split screen is a bummer, but the wii isn't powerful enough for it.alexh_99
How exactly isn't it powerful enough?...:| SNES had split-screen multiplayer. So did N64 and GC.

I wouldn't have cared if they made it offline only split-screen multiplayer, it would have been nice if the option was at least available....

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#33 gamefan67
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Dont blame Treyarch for the shortcomings of Nintendo's little white box compared to the competition.
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[QUOTE="nintenjoe3"]

Basically, everything they added, we had expected from them a year ago. and everything we expected from them, we didn't get. Sure there's added voice chat and ally mode, but those are things that were kinda bare minimum. I just noticed this when I played it on PS3. The wii version doesn't have: Customizable sights, face paint, emblems, decent graphics, SPLITSCREEN, at least 4 of the killstreaks, at least 2 of the attatchments, and a bunch more that I can't even remember. Seriously treyarch? wtf? ESPECIALLY SPLITSCREEN! How could you possibly "forget" splitscreen? It's a staple of the frachise!! anyways...comments? thoughts? rage?

Jaysonguy

The Wii isn't strong enough for split screen

Wii owners should only want online games, it gets the most out of the hardware

Tell to that to Eurocom. They seem to found a way to do it with GoldenEye.

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It's already been proven in many aspects that the Wii is greater than PS3 and 360. It even has been proven to have more processing power than the comp. It's just harder to work with.
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#37 WreckEm711
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It's already been proven in many aspects that the Wii is greater than PS3 and 360. It even has been proven to have more processing power than the comp. It's just harder to work with.nintenjoe3

Umm.... no.

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It's already been proven in many aspects that the Wii is greater than PS3 and 360. It even has been proven to have more processing power than the comp. It's just harder to work with.nintenjoe3

Oh really!

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#39 painguy1
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Dude its the wii...FPS's aren't its thing

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#40 LastRambo341
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Dude its the wii...FPS's aren't its thing

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Thts not what Iwata said
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#41 KBFloYd
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Dude its the wii...FPS's aren't its thing

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umm dude.. FPS is one of the main things that is awesome about the wii :|

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#42 nini200
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The only thing that I feel is missing "even though it says we'll get it on the back of the box" is the upcoming DLC. Thats Nintendo's fault moreso than Treyarchs for not allowing it. This needs to be addressed in the next Nintendo console and not the 3DS.
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#43 LastRambo341
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The only thing that I feel is missing "even though it says we'll get it on the back of the box" is the upcoming DLC. Thats Nintendo's fault moreso than Treyarchs for not allowing it. This needs to be addressed in the next Nintendo console and not the 3DS.nini200
Nintendo isn't disallowing anyone.
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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

Dude its the wii...FPS's aren't its thing

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umm dude.. FPS is one of the main things that is awesome about the wii :|

We may have the controls since the beginning, but we don't really have much games worth mentioning compared to the other consoles.

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#45 OreoMilkshake
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It's a great Wii game and the best FPS for the system.
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#46 meetroid8
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If you want to play CoD you should just stick with the other consoles. If you need a Wii online FPS play Goldeneye.
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#47 LastRambo341
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If you want to play CoD you should just stick with the other consoles. If you need a Wii online FPS play Goldeneye.meetroid8
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#48 nini200
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[QUOTE="nini200"]The only thing that I feel is missing "even though it says we'll get it on the back of the box" is the upcoming DLC. Thats Nintendo's fault moreso than Treyarchs for not allowing it. This needs to be addressed in the next Nintendo console and not the 3DS.LastRambo341
Nintendo isn't disallowing anyone.

They disallowed Capcom to add more characters in TvC
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#49 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="nini200"]The only thing that I feel is missing "even though it says we'll get it on the back of the box" is the upcoming DLC. Thats Nintendo's fault moreso than Treyarchs for not allowing it. This needs to be addressed in the next Nintendo console and not the 3DS.nini200
Nintendo isn't disallowing anyone.

They disallowed Capcom to add more characters in TvC

Capcom said they needed Nintendo's permission, but Nintendo didn't say "No". Unless you can link it