Do you think the 3DS is a complete real successor to the DS?

Yes, it has much more online features, way better e-shop, 3D, much better graphics, way more control with an analog stick and gyrscope and it has more advanced games. If the 3DS isn't a successor then what do you consider a successor? FPS1337

[QUOTE="FPS1337"]Yes, it has much more online features, way better e-shop, 3D, much better graphics, way more control with an analog stick and gyrscope and it has more advanced games. If the 3DS isn't a successor then what do you consider a successor? Another48h0urs

[QUOTE="Another48h0urs"][QUOTE="FPS1337"]Yes, it has much more online features, way better e-shop, 3D, much better graphics, way more control with an analog stick and gyrscope and it has more advanced games. If the 3DS isn't a successor then what do you consider a successor? hydralisk86

I think the reason the 3DS does not seem like a "complete" successor is because of all the various DS upgrades released since the very first generation model. You have the original DS, the DS lite, then the DSi, then the DSi XL. All of these put a step forward, though not dramatically, to the original DS setup. Since the 3DS came fairly quickly afterward, it's easy to see why it's not a "complete" upgrade, hence it will feel more like just another step up; which is somewhat true. It feels like a 5th or 6th step on a full staircase and not an entirely new "floor" or level. Heck, we may see yet another upgrade to the 3DS before Nintendo decides to release an entirely new handheld system.

If the original DS was never upgraded, and spent this amount of years available before we saw the 3DS, your perspective would be a lot different. It would feel more like the advance from the Game Boy Advance to the DS, rather than the DSiXL to the 3DS.

I personally think it would have been nice for the 3DS to have GBA capability.

Yes,ofcourse it's a real succesor.

It has all these features,graphics,and games.

In regards to my previous post, you also have to remember that technology does not go leaps and bounds forward like it did back in the day. Back then in the days of films like The Matrix, PS1 and 3D gaming, analog control, a rumble pack feature, and other technologies, they had a wow factor that simply can't be done as well in an age where people have seen pretty much everything.

DS is a pathetic toy for kids! with all the pokemon and barbie winx games! 3DS is a mature system with great graphics and uber cool 3D effects and its NOT ment for kids! I had a DS and i HATED it with passion..poor graphics joke games and awful i say awful pixels

DS is a pathetic toy for kids! with all the pokemon and barbie winx games! 3DS is a mature system with great graphics and uber cool 3D effects and its NOT ment for kids! I had a DS and i HATED it with passion..poor graphics joke games and awful i say awful pixels

greekboy1981

DS is a pathetic toy for kids! with all the pokemon and barbie winx games! 3DS is a mature system with great graphics and uber cool 3D effects and its NOT ment for kids! I had a DS and i HATED it with passion..poor graphics joke games and awful i say awful pixels

greekboy1981

DS is a pathetic toy for kids! with all the pokemon and barbie winx games! 3DS is a mature system with great graphics and uber cool 3D effects and its NOT ment for kids! I had a DS and i HATED it with passion..poor graphics joke games and awful i say awful pixels

greekboy1981

You`re grouping Pokemon with shovelware like Barbie and Winx games?!

Absolutely shameful! :evil:

If people can accept the GBC being a full successor to the GB, and the GBA being a successor to the GBC, I can easily accept the 3DS as a successor to the DS. New features, better hardware, and new game format, enough of a difference for me. The outward appearance doesn't mean much when deciding these things or else something like the Vita would just be an upgraded PSP, which it's not.

DS is a pathetic toy for kids! with all the pokemon and barbie winx games! 3DS is a mature system with great graphics and uber cool 3D effects and its NOT ment for kids! I had a DS and i HATED it with passion..poor graphics joke games and awful i say awful pixels

greekboy1981

Lol,what? o.o

You're crazy,and you don't know what you're talking about,really.

I'm ashamed to be a compatriot...

I wish Nintendo had given the 3DS a little more under the hood. Most of the games I've played on it don't look TOO much improved from the games on the DS. I'm sure it will get better, though.

DS is a pathetic toy for kids! with all the pokemon and barbie winx games! 3DS is a mature system with great graphics and uber cool 3D effects and its NOT ment for kids! I had a DS and i HATED it with passion..poor graphics joke games and awful i say awful pixels

greekboy1981

DS is a pathetic toy for kids! with all the pokemon and barbie winx games! 3DS is a mature system with great graphics and uber cool 3D effects and its NOT ment for kids! I had a DS and i HATED it with passion..poor graphics joke games and awful i say awful pixels

greekboy1981

Dude, seriously gtfo. Joke games, let's see: 3 Castlevanias, 2 Advance Wars games, several Pokemon games that don't even compare to "barbie winx games," GTA Chinatown Wars, Mario Kart DS, other numerous RPGs like Chrono Trigger and various Dragon Quest games, and many others. Go back to playing your PSP if you want better graphics but an arguably weaker library.

Before I got one I felt the same way. MK7 is a good example of it being a successor because MK7 looks even better than the Wii version.

Edit: I had that thought for a long time, went to youtube and the wii version looks just as good. The gap between Mario Kart Ds and 3ds is huge then.

I wish Nintendo had given the 3DS a little more under the hood. Most of the games I've played on it don't look TOO much improved from the games on the DS. I'm sure it will get better, though.

ItsEvolution

Play the DS Resident Evil game then play the 3DS Resident Evil game and then tell me they "dont look TOO much improved"

Obviously. Some games look close to Gamecube in graphics. DS games looked alot worse than N64 ones.

It is a real successor to DS, however if you don't think it is then just wait for another 4yrs for 4DS, simple. :P

Yes, but it's a super gen, it's DS 2.0, not something entirely new.

The norm is polygonal 3D games now, whereas there were a ton of 2D games on DS. That alone is a big deal.

Then you have the glasses free stereoscopic 3D, which adds a new dimension (pun not intended) to gaming. It doesn't really affect gameplay, but it does enhance the experience significantly.

eShop: Original 3DS DD games. Handheld/Home Console VC. 3D Classics. DSiWare. Demos. 3D Trailers. DLC.

Power wise it's a huge step forward, the handheld MSRP'd at $250 which is alot for a Nintendo handheld, so the generational jump was huge. We will probably never see such an expensive Nintendo handheld again. Don't look at Vita's price, it has the hidden cost of memory cards.

The Nintendo Network is obviously improved.

Addition of Apps and a nice OS with folders ( :P ): Nintendo Video, SwapNote, 3D Pictures/Video, etc.

The addition of Gyro/Motion sensors as well as an analog pad for 3D games.

It took some time for everything to get in place but 3DS is pretty much perfect now, especially for $170.

It's definitely a proper successor. I thought this was clearly obvious? Both hardware AND software are leaps and bounds better than the DS. Hardware wise the 3DS has the power to play full stereoscopic 3D whilst having the same / above the graphics capabilities of the Wii. The basic shape is still the same but that's to be expected, it still has the DS branding, and changing it completely wouldn't make it a '3DS', and would fiddle with the already well ergonomically designed shape of the system. The circle pad was a good move by Nintendo, despite the problems. With a proper analog stick (like the ones introduced to the Wii U for example), the system wouldn't be able to close up.

Software. The OS is similar to the DSi but with vast improvements. It's more fluid, designed better to suit the users needs (you can customize the amount of icons on the screen at one time), and the Home button allows for easy access back to this area without having to cancel your game and reboot it. The E-Shop's improved. It's visually better, games are categorized much more sensibly to easily find the content you want, and each games section on the E-Shop has quick access to trailers and reviews so you can decide what you'd like then and there rather than hopping onto youtube (videos are also 3D so you can see the game in action). Some games take advantage of the 3D camera software in unique ways, such as face raider or Augmented Reality. Amongst other things like improvements to the camera and sound apps, full online functionality (friend codes, notifications, messages etc), Mii's, Brilliant Activity Log to keep track of time, functional web browser etc.

Games. Games is more of a personal opinion. 'personally', I like the games that have been released for the 3DS. And your statement about the games going in the same direction as the DS is partly true, but also very wrong. Games like MGS3, Resident Evil Revelations, Splinter Cell 3D and Ghost Recon Shadow Wars prove you wrong instantly. But also, other games prove you right. And obviously they would follow the DS in some way or form, they are both handheld systems. Would you like to see Killzone, Uncharted, Batman Arkham City, Halo, or Call Of Duty (Cringe) all on the 3DS? As good as they could potentially be, 1) It would never happen. 2) The limitations to the amount of control schemes the 3DS has means they would be terribly designed games that utilize the touch screen (as there'd be no other choice) in awkward ways (just look at the terrible CoD games on the DS already). My point being, you couldn't imitate all these massive AAA console hits on a 3DS, which is essentially what your saying it should do if you don't want it to follow the DS's route.

Point being, the 3DS is a true DS successor, and shouldn't try to follow the footsteps of other consoles in the market (leave the bad clones to the VITA).

EDIT:

I'm not trying to say the DS only had non-mature games. There were a few, but it was predominantly a system based on casual gamers.

[QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]

I wish Nintendo had given the 3DS a little more under the hood. Most of the games I've played on it don't look TOO much improved from the games on the DS. I'm sure it will get better, though.

JuanGrande386

Play the DS Resident Evil game then play the 3DS Resident Evil game and then tell me they "dont look TOO much improved"

Obviously. Some games look close to Gamecube in graphics. DS games looked alot worse than N64 ones.

PAL360

[QUOTE="FPS1337"]Yes, it has much more online features, way better e-shop, 3D, much better graphics, way more control with an analog stick and gyrscope and it has more advanced games. If the 3DS isn't a successor then what do you consider a successor? Another48h0urs

"Slight graphics boost"? :lol:

Yeah, I think the 3DS is a step up from the DS. Better & cleaner graphics, & better online features.

I'm not trying to say the DS only had non-mature games. There were a few, but it was predominantly a system based on casual gamers.

Defy_The_Fallen

I think DS has the best software library of the past generation, including home consoles, and it ranks up there with SNES/PS2. And I wouldn't call myself a casual gamer.

I don't think so. The graphics aren't really that much better, and the 3D on it is lackluster (which would be expected from new technology). However, I've never been into the whole 3D thing so the console isn't really going to appeal to me no matter how good it is. I remember going to IMAX movies and not being that impressed, which is sad for me because 3D seems to be where society is gravitating towards.

Anyways, for $170 I can buy a regular DS that won't kill my eyes and a game or two to go with it. Should they stop supporting regular DS systems, I'll just stop buying games and move to something else. I love playing on my DS, but forcing everyone to spend an extra $70 on a poor 3D graphic system that gives you headaches isn't a good marketing decision. Hopefully they would release an updated DSi system to go along with the 3Ds, should they stop supporting regular DS systems. Unlikely, though.

I don't think so. The graphics aren't really that much better, and the 3D on it is lackluster (which would be expected from new technology). However, I've never been into the whole 3D thing so the console isn't really going to appeal to me no matter how good it is. I remember going to IMAX movies and not being that impressed, which is sad for me because 3D seems to be where society is gravitating towards.

Anyways, for $170 I can buy a regular DS that won't kill my eyes and a game or two to go with it. Should they stop supporting regular DS systems, I'll just stop buying games and move to something else. I love playing on my DS, but forcing everyone to spend an extra $70 on a poor 3D graphic system that gives you headaches isn't a good marketing decision. Hopefully they would release an updated DSi system to go along with the 3Ds, should they stop supporting regular DS systems. Unlikely, though.

plantation11

I see the Nintendo handhelds in phases rather than successors, e.g;

Gameboy Phase: GB, GBC, GBA, GBASP.

DS: DS, DSlite, DSi, DSiXL, 3DS

The 3DS is a very good model in the DS line and it has certainly improved. I'm happy with my 3DS, but I'm quietly reserved about the games; it seriously needs some more 3rd party support like the DS had, also Nintendo need to get some more 1st party titles out too...they're coming later this year though.

I'm sure we'll see a new 'line' of Nintendo handheld.

I don't think so. The graphics aren't really that much better, and the 3D on it is lackluster (which would be expected from new technology). However, I've never been into the whole 3D thing so the console isn't really going to appeal to me no matter how good it is. I remember going to IMAX movies and not being that impressed, which is sad for me because 3D seems to be where society is gravitating towards.

Anyways, for $170 I can buy a regular DS that won't kill my eyes and a game or two to go with it. Should they stop supporting regular DS systems, I'll just stop buying games and move to something else. I love playing on my DS, but forcing everyone to spend an extra $70 on a poor 3D graphic system that gives you headaches isn't a good marketing decision. Hopefully they would release an updated DSi system to go along with the 3Ds, should they stop supporting regular DS systems. Unlikely, though.

plantation11

I don't think so. The graphics aren't really that much better, and the 3D on it is lackluster (which would be expected from new technology). However, I've never been into the whole 3D thing so the console isn't really going to appeal to me no matter how good it is. I remember going to IMAX movies and not being that impressed, which is sad for me because 3D seems to be where society is gravitating towards.

Anyways, for $170 I can buy a regular DS that won't kill my eyes and a game or two to go with it. Should they stop supporting regular DS systems, I'll just stop buying games and move to something else. I love playing on my DS, but forcing everyone to spend an extra $70 on a poor 3D graphic system that gives you headaches isn't a good marketing decision. Hopefully they would release an updated DSi system to go along with the 3Ds, should they stop supporting regular DS systems. Unlikely, though.

plantation11

LMAO, where do you even start with such an uninformed comment??? Graphics are like N64 vs Gamecube, the 3D is not suppose to be popout like the movies its depth, you can turn the 3D off and before you say "whats the point" its a brand new more powerful machine which any unblind person should be able to notice, after Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 they are pretty much done with the other DSs, they will not make an update DSi cus the 3DS does everything it does and does it better because it is in fact a new system.

I don't think so. The graphics aren't really that much better, and the 3D on it is lackluster (which would be expected from new technology). However, I've never been into the whole 3D thing so the console isn't really going to appeal to me no matter how good it is. I remember going to IMAX movies and not being that impressed, which is sad for me because 3D seems to be where society is gravitating towards.

Anyways, for $170 I can buy a regular DS that won't kill my eyes and a game or two to go with it. Should they stop supporting regular DS systems, I'll just stop buying games and move to something else. I love playing on my DS, but forcing everyone to spend an extra $70 on a poor 3D graphic system that gives you headaches isn't a good marketing decision. Hopefully they would release an updated DSi system to go along with the 3Ds, should they stop supporting regular DS systems. Unlikely, though.

plantation11

The graphics are completely better. If you can't see that, your just silly.

I'd give up your 'graphics' argument now if I were you. It's clearly not right.

I don't think so. The graphics aren't really that much better, and the 3D on it is lackluster (which would be expected from new technology). However, I've never been into the whole 3D thing so the console isn't really going to appeal to me no matter how good it is. I remember going to IMAX movies and not being that impressed, which is sad for me because 3D seems to be where society is gravitating towards.

Anyways, for $170 I can buy a regular DS that won't kill my eyes and a game or two to go with it. Should they stop supporting regular DS systems, I'll just stop buying games and move to something else. I love playing on my DS, but forcing everyone to spend an extra $70 on a poor 3D graphic system that gives you headaches isn't a good marketing decision. Hopefully they would release an updated DSi system to go along with the 3Ds, should they stop supporting regular DS systems. Unlikely, though.

plantation11

As someone said, you don't buy a 3DS purely for the 3D effect. It does add new levels of immersion, and certainly looks brilliant, but it's a a DS in it's own right.

See my previous post to jog your memory of your stupidity.

This is the DS

This is the 3DS

I would say its a successor

Wow, Revelations looks incredible! Might pick it up at some point; never played a Resi game though.

Wow, Revelations looks incredible! Might pick it up at some point; never played a Resi game though.

DarthJohnova

Yes Revelations was very good, u should def pick it up