Does anyone else think The Conduit looks bad?

Don't get me wrong, I'm waiting for this game, since I love sci-fi FPS, yet I can't understand why people keep saying it looks graphically great: apart from the good weapon models, which feature nifty lighting effects, cool animations and even some advanced mapping, I'm stunned by how dated the environments look, with blocky buildings and objects (did you see the cars...? Minute 1.50 in the trailer) and low-res textures. Usual third party Wii graphical detail.

I mean, we're talking ps2 quality here (I hope it's a beta demo). It may be good (although it looks a lot like a certain game... I'm surprised they didn't call it Hulo: Kombat Revolved), yet I think it might be overhyped, being the only FPS announced for the Wii other than Red Steel 2.

We'll see. When is it supposed to come out?

No flames, please.

How dare you?... Just kidding.

We'll see. When is it supposed to come out?

Black_Knight_00

There's no release date announced. That's why it's still on the alpha developement.

I think people are ultimately going to be disappointed. The game looks no where as good as Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, or Brawl.

The game also has a very uninspired art direction, it looks really bland, as does the story.

As for them delivering "Early 360 launch title quality graphics" -- i have this to say:
The Conduit:
Unimpressive indeed.

Personally, I thought it looked great. That is, in comparson to what we've seen on the Wii already.

I really don't care if it looks bad or unpolished if the gameplay looks solid, from what I have seen, it does.

The art direction is a little meh...but graphically speaking, it's impressive looking for a Wii game at (very) early stages. Note, I just said early; This game's got a while until release, so you should be pretty impressed with what the developers have done in such a little amount of time. No, the art direction isn't anywhere as good as metroid prime 3's (which was incredible), but technically speaking the game already looks better than MP3 did. Imo.

Gameplay wise, I think the game looks promising.

Personally, I thought it looked great. That is, in comparson to what we've seen on the Wii already.

I really don't care if it looks bad or unpolished if the gameplay looks solid, from what I have seen, it does.

Boba_Fett_3710

I think people are ultimately going to be disappointed. The game looks no where as good as Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, or Brawl.

The game also has a very uninspired art direction, it looks really bland, as does the story.

As for them delivering "Early 360 launch title quality graphics" -- i have this to say:
The Conduit:
Unimpressive indeed.

Haziqonfire

See, I don't understand this. The Conduit is still in developmental stages. You could go find pre-release or in development screenshots for any game and they'd look just as premature. Sure, everything about this games screams 'generic' but it's not even close to being done yet.

You're not beta testing...Why not save visual/graphical criticism for it's release?

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

I think people are ultimately going to be disappointed. The game looks no where as good as Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, or Brawl.

The game also has a very uninspired art direction, it looks really bland, as does the story.

As for them delivering "Early 360 launch title quality graphics" -- i have this to say:
The Conduit:
Unimpressive indeed.

Hells_Hammer

See, I don't understand this. The Conduit is still in developmental stages. You could go find pre-release or in development screenshots for any game and they'd look just as premature. Sure, everything about this games screams 'generic' but it's not even close to being done yet.

You're not beta testing...Why not save visual/graphical criticism for it's release?

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

Personally, I thought it looked great. That is, in comparson to what we've seen on the Wii already.

I really don't care if it looks bad or unpolished if the gameplay looks solid, from what I have seen, it does.

Haziqonfire

Yes, I agree. I'm thinking they want this game to play and look good. Obviously since the game is unfinished, I expected some parts of the game to look better than others at this point in time.

I think people are ultimately going to be disappointed. The game looks no where as good as Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, or Brawl.

The game also has a very uninspired art direction, it looks really bland, as does the story.

As for them delivering "Early 360 launch title quality graphics" -- i have this to say:
The Conduit:
Unimpressive indeed.

Haziqonfire

the games not finished. stop pretending it isair_wolf_cubed

Agree. I think we can all look less foolish by ridiculing the game once it's released.

The trailer actually surprised me in a good way. The level designs and art direction do need a bit of a bump though, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt since the game is no were near being done.umcommon

This is how I feel. Either way, another FPS on the Wii is not a bad thing, since there aren't a whole lot of them.

From what we've seen so far, it's not bad, it's just not good either.

This devs are arrogant enough to say that they can push out graphics comparable to the 360 and now that they show what they have, it's not even remotely close. The most you can say is that it looks good for a Wii game and even then I can't say it looks more impressive than MoH:H2 or Prime 3. Say what you want about early stages but if I say I'll wow everyone with my graphics, I'm going to atleast try to look better than the competition when I first show up.

[QUOTE="Hells_Hammer"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

I think people are ultimately going to be disappointed. The game looks no where as good as Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, or Brawl.

The game also has a very uninspired art direction, it looks really bland, as does the story.

Haziqonfire

See, I don't understand this. The Conduit is still in developmental stages. You could go find pre-release or in development screenshots for any game and they'd look just as premature. Sure, everything about this games screams 'generic' but it's not even close to being done yet.

You're not beta testing...Why not save visual/graphical criticism for it's release?

Promising?

"With Conduit, we are trying to make a Wii game that looks like a 360 title."

Where's the promise?

I agree, I don't think it's possible, simply because the Wii isn't a PC hidden in console skin, but don't go putting words in people's mouths just because you don't like the art direction. So far, the game looks pretty good and like you said, it doesn't even have a publisher yet.

im not decided yet.

technically it looking great for a wii game. based on the vid i saw, its got real time lighting, bump mapping and all that. its definately one of the more impressive games from that point of view and a definate step up from what weve seen from most other 3rd parties. enviroenments also seem pretty big and the framerate seems to be consistent even when its busy.

im not sold on the art style though and some of the models look a bit rough...especially the soldier models. i do like the bug like enemies though and the one at the end of the vid was quite impressive from a visual and animation point of view. if they can get it to that level across the board then that would be a big step up.

at the end of the day though....looks bad compared to what? its not going to give the likes of gears or uncharted or crysis anything to worry about from a visual point of view....it was never going to do that. if thats what ure expecting then ure going to be dissapointed. the wii can not do that...ever. no amount of developer skill or talent or time or money will make a wii pull off those kind of visuals, ever.

from what ive seen though, conduit is a definate step up in the technical visuals department compared to pretty much every other 3rd party game on wii. most 3rd party games dont use any real time lighting on the wii, nor do they use the WIIs shaders and TEV to create nice water effects, sharper textures and so on. there a whole bucket of tricks the wii has up its sleeve and so far there being ignored by devs outside ninty. zelda TP si technically more sophisticated than the vast majority of the stuff released on wii.....and thats a GC game. whatever about the artistic direction, at least high voltage are giving it a dam good shot...a far bigger effort than most of the stuff released on wii.

its early days yet and i wish the devs the best of luck with making a great engine for 3rd parties and a great game to show it off.

its still way early in development, plus they dont even have a publisher, not to mention its being made by a rellitivly unknow developer, so what do you expect? wait for the finished project. i was actually surprised by the video, better then i thought

though yeah the art style could be better

(in responce to the person who posted that pic)

that wasnt really a good pic of the game, if the game looks like this^, then im allready good

This game is far from complete. Does The Conduit even have a publisher for it yet:question:wiifan001

the games not finished. stop pretending it isair_wolf_cubed

Hold on, why make a trailer now, then? They would have waited till they improved the game graphically before feeding it to us FPS-hungry Wii wolves. Nah, I think what we saw in the trailer (and in air_wolf_cubed's signature ;) ) is what The Conduit will look like. Which is pretty good (gameplay>graphics), just not 'awesome' as some people are saying.

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]the games not finished. stop pretending it isBlack_Knight_00

Hold on, why make a trailer now, then? They would have waited till they improved the game graphically before feeding it to us FPS-hungry Wii wolves. Nah, I think what we saw in the trailer (and in air_wolf_cubed's signature ;) ) is what The Conduit will look like.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]This game is far from complete. Does The Conduit even have a publisher for it yet:question:air_wolf_cubed

so yeah this game is FAR from being done. And to the post above ^, you know I really can't figure out why they have a trailer for it this soon. Those have got to be the completed graphics, like he said.

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]This game is far from complete. Does The Conduit even have a publisher for it yet:question:wiifan001

so yeah this game is FAR from being done. And to the post above ^, you know I really can't figure out why they have a trailer for it this soon. Those have got to be the completed graphics, like he said.

Maybe it's using a pre-existing engine. Or maybe they have designed the gameplay mechanics but don't have a decent story yet.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]This game is far from complete. Does The Conduit even have a publisher for it yet:question:Boba_Fett_3710

so yeah this game is FAR from being done. And to the post above ^, you know I really can't figure out why they have a trailer for it this soon. Those have got to be the completed graphics, like he said.

Maybe it's using a pre-existing engine. Or maybe they have designed the gameplay mechanics but don't have a decent story yet.

The Conduit has been boasting about their graphics more than anything else so far. Why would they show us a trailer from a pre-existing engine if they're not going to use it? And the trailer had nothing to do with the story line.

Sure the game isn't finished, but at this point there's nothing special about the artistic direction of the game. Given the circumstances the game is in (no publisher) I think this looks decent. I hope that once a publisher picks up this game (Gamecock? Where are you?) that they supply the team with ample time and resources to BEAUTIFY this game.

I think High Voltage knows what kind of pressure they're under and I hope that the game continues to improve.

It looks like a good game so far, and yeah, stop criticising the games graphics; it is still way too early in development. Once it gets a publisher and nearing realease, we can start judging the games graphics. Personally I think it looks pretty good so far for a Wii game and once it is released I expect to see good graphics because some of the pics look really good so early in development.

I said this before and I'll say it again: it looks like Quake III Arena, or Serious Sam The Second Encounter.

Nevermind, I never cared about graphics anyway, I just hope it's not a Halo + Half-Life2 clone as it looks, because no one ever managed to decently clone those games.

I really hope The Conduit will be great, because we desperately need a new FPS on the Wii.

It looks like a good game so far, and yeah, stop criticising the games graphics; it is still way too early in development. Once it gets a publisher and nearing realease, we can start judging the games graphics. Personally I think it looks pretty good so far for a Wii game and once it is released I expect to see good graphics because some of the pics look really good so early in development.

NormanOfTorn

And let us not forget that as intelligent fans of Wii, we KNOW that gameplay is far more important than graphics, not that graphics aren't important. It's great for a game to have fantastic graphics. But what is more important: Fantastic graphics with mediocre gameplay or mediocre graphics with top knotch gameplay?

(Gamecock? Where are you?)

Arkk_Angel

Wow. Good call.

[QUOTE="NormanOfTorn"]

It looks like a good game so far, and yeah, stop criticising the games graphics; it is still way too early in development. Once it gets a publisher and nearing realease, we can start judging the games graphics. Personally I think it looks pretty good so far for a Wii game and once it is released I expect to see good graphics because some of the pics look really good so early in development.

wiifan001

And let us not forget that as intelligent fans of Wii, we KNOW that gameplay is far more important than graphics, not that graphics aren't important. It's great for a game to have fantastic graphics. But what is more important: Fantastic graphics with mediocre gameplay or mediocre graphics with top knotch gameplay?

Speak for yourself. I want a game with great controls AND great graphics! Why do you want a game with bad graphics??

The game looks a hot mess.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="NormanOfTorn"]

It looks like a good game so far, and yeah, stop criticising the games graphics; it is still way too early in development. Once it gets a publisher and nearing realease, we can start judging the games graphics. Personally I think it looks pretty good so far for a Wii game and once it is released I expect to see good graphics because some of the pics look really good so early in development.

santiagochile

And let us not forget that as intelligent fans of Wii, we KNOW that gameplay is far more important than graphics, not that graphics aren't important. It's great for a game to have fantastic graphics. But what is more important: Fantastic graphics with mediocre gameplay or mediocre graphics with top knotch gameplay?

Speak for yourself. I want a game with great controls AND great graphics! Why do you want a game with bad graphics??

I didn't say bad. I say mediocre. Bad doesn't = mediocre. Like I said, graphics are important, but gameplay is far more important. It just so happens that usually the best games have outstanding visuals, and there are exceptions.

[QUOTE="Arkk_Angel"]

(Gamecock? Where are you?)

Hells_Hammer

Wow. Good call.

I second that!

Or third it? Whatever.

Screens and videos are rarely accurate.
As someone mentioned earlier the game is still in pre-alpha and Metroid Prime 3 looked preatty much like Metroid Prime 2 in the early stages.
Arnalion

[QUOTE="Arnalion"]Screens and videos are rarely accurate.
As someone mentioned earlier the game is still in pre-alpha and Metroid Prime 3 looked preatty much like Metroid Prime 2 in the early stages.
air_wolf_cubed

Yeah.
I'd say the biggest issue IMO with this game is the level design. But it will probably improve.

lol....this just keeps going on and on. The game looks good for what it is.

I honestly can't stop watching the trailer, but it's gonna be awhile before it's released. I'll be more closer to making a decision towards the release, if it has one.

the conduit looks good right now for gameplay alone but the graphics have alot of promise so we will see ok side note here conduit is allready being published by sega idk what you guys mean by it doesnt have a publisher. here is a tech deomo thats pretty intresting

I think people are ultimately going to be disappointed. The game looks no where as good as Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, or Brawl.

The game also has a very uninspired art direction, it looks really bland, as does the story.

As for them delivering "Early 360 launch title quality graphics" -- i have this to say:

The Conduit:
Unimpressive indeed.

Haziqonfire

It looks good to me, If I want a game with artistic visuals, I go to No More Heroes and Madworld.

I'm buying the game so that there is a chance that people will publish new games like the currently postponed Winter.

But in the future, when the Next Metroid game comes out, I forsee it out doing the Conduit, not just artistically, but technically as well.

Speaking of which, I can't wait til the new Metorid comes out.

I wonder what it will be about, maybe it will be Metroid Dread?

Looks? Are we still complaining about that? Just buy a PS3 or an XBox360 if the Wii doesn't satisfy your graphical needs. I'm sure those other consoles have games that "look" better than The Conduit.

As long as the frame rate remains constant and the game doesn't look like crap, and the action is good, I'll be alright with it.