Does anyone else thinks the newer Pokemon games are dull and repetitive?!

Yep, topic says it all. Got at least one of the major Pokemon games of every generation so far but for me the newer games (Ruby and so on) lost the Pokemon "feeling" for me. I don't even finished Pokemon Diamond because it's just not interesting. Maybe I'm just not the age for Pokemon games anymore (19) but otherwise I'm totally eager to see HeartGold and SoulSilver because I think those will give me this old feeling back. Do other people think so too? Or am I just not a normal Pokemon fan anymore?

i see alot of these posts here, and i think most of it has to do with the nostalgia you feel for the earlier games. i've never put as much time into a pokemon game, or enjoyed it as much as i have this 4th generation. and thats saying quite a bit, as i've played every gen at least twice. the story is more interesting than in previous games (team galactic seems to have a better story than teamrocket or magma/aqua) and the online battling is obviously a huge plus. contrary to most people, i actually like the newer pokemon more as well. when they ran out of animals to make variations of (ratacate, seal, ect) they started making more interesting pokemon (metagross and drapion, to name a couple.)

short answer: no, i like the new games more.

Maybe I'm just not the age for Pokemon games anymore (19) but otherwise I'm totally eager to see HeartGold and SoulSilver because I think those will give me this old feeling back.

uRan_Ehr

You're not alone; I really can't stand the series anymore.

Ive got platinum and it has become very repetitive even after doing all there is to do ingame. i think i might get an action replay to just to liven things up a little bit

Ive got platinum and it has become very repetitive even after doing all there is to do ingame. i think i might get an action replay to just to liven things up a little bit

In_Vino_Verita

i see alot of these posts here, and i think most of it has to do with the nostalgia you feel for the earlier games. i've never put as much time into a pokemon game, or enjoyed it as much as i have this 4th generation. and thats saying quite a bit, as i've played every gen at least twice. the story is more interesting than in previous games (team galactic seems to have a better story than teamrocket or magma/aqua) and the online battling is obviously a huge plus. contrary to most people, i actually like the newer pokemon more as well. when they ran out of animals to make variations of (ratacate, seal, ect) they started making more interesting pokemon (metagross and drapion, to name a couple.)

short answer: no, i like the new games more.

the_wet_mop

Exactly, the newer ones are superior to the old ones

It's just nostalgia speaking, people always think that it was better in the "good ol'days" when it really isn't

Pokemon is stronger then it's ever been and the reason for it is because the games are the strongest they've ever been

The games do get better, and they're not bad by any means, but pokemon should be roughly 4x more evolved than it is now, they've been milking the gameboy/DS games far too long without adding enough content. Anyone who disagrees with that has a lot to learn about game design.

The games do get better, and they're not bad by any means, but pokemon should be roughly 4x more evolved than it is now, they've been milking the gameboy/DS games far too long without adding enough content. Anyone who disagrees with that has a lot to learn about game design.

Matt-Porter

You should really take your own advice

The game is meant to be started by children in the early single digits. If you "evolve" the game radically (which is what you're asking for some unknown reason) you exclude a large portion of newcomers.

The entire franchise changed when it came to the DS and no one pays attention to it. It made the game have tremendous depth while at the same time held it's roots in place allowing small children to pick up and play

The idea that it hasn't "evolved" enough is false

The games do get better, and they're not bad by any means, but pokemon should be roughly 4x more evolved than it is now, they've been milking the gameboy/DS games far too long without adding enough content. Anyone who disagrees with that has a lot to learn about game design.

Matt-Porter

Absolutely agree with you 100% on that.

Pokemon got stale with Ruby/Sapphire. I tried to play Platinum awhile ago and couldn't get into it at all. It just felt like I was playing the last three games all over again, except with a new character, new pokemon, and a new world. In other words, nothing changed except for cosmetics. From what I hear some things did get deeper (such as breeding), but those things only matter to the hardcore pokefanatics. The average player isn't going to spend hours breeding and raising the perfect pokemon for example.

I also think it's rather pathetic that the franchise has yet to make the transition to 3D. All the console games have been lame, shallow fighting games. The only good entries in the series have been 2D handheld games which was understandable with the last iterations, but on the DS all they could manage were some minor graphics upgrades (ooh look, the houses are psuedo-3D!). And for crying out loud, why is it that every pokemon game has used the same MIDI sound effects for the pokemon cries? On the GB, GBC, and GBA this was understandable, but on the N64, NDS, and GCN? Come on.

Kind of. Maybe it is just nostalgia, but I bought Diamond a few weeks ago, and started a new game after a couple of weeks, but I grew bored.

With the first two generations, I was able to keep starting over and enjoy it just the same.

Technically speaking, Diamond/Pearl are the best, but I can't wait for HeartGold and SoulSilver, which should technically be the best and will have the best gameplay.

And for crying out loud, why is it that every pokemon game has used the same MIDI sound effects for the pokemon cries? On the GB, GBC, and GBA this was understandable, but on the N64, NDS, and GCN? Come on.

Kind of. Maybe it is just nostalgia, but I bought Diamond a few weeks ago, and started a new game after a couple of weeks, but I grew bored.

With the first two generations, I was able to keep starting over and enjoy it just the same.

Technically speaking, Diamond/Pearl are the best, but I can't wait for HeartGold and SoulSilver, which should technically be the best and will have the best gameplay.

wiidskirby

ummm...what? if its technically the best, that means its gameplay is the best. if you meant to say best story, then i could possibly agree though.

Yep, topic says it all. Got at least one of the major Pokemon games of every generation so far but for me the newer games (Ruby and so on) lost the Pokemon "feeling" for me. I don't even finished Pokemon Diamond because it's just not interesting. Maybe I'm just not the age for Pokemon games anymore (19) but otherwise I'm totally eager to see HeartGold and SoulSilver because I think those will give me this old feeling back. Do other people think so too? Or am I just not a normal Pokemon fan anymore?

uRan_Ehr

the gameplay is changing ech new game

A little bit, but there still good games, just not as good as the originals. Have to say the thing that had me most annoyed while playing Platinum was the way the game held your hand the whole way through. Literally after you finished one area of the game, a random person like Cynthia, your rival etc would come up to you and give you a really obvious hint of where to go next. Compare this to the older games like Red and Blue where you had to find the HM surf in the deepest, darkest part of the safari zone without any hints...

if you meant to say best story, then i could possibly agree though. the_wet_mop

I thought the story was terrible in the latest Pokemon games.The absolutely absurd focus on mysticism and making Pokemon actual dieties within the game ruined it for me,and Team Galactic's goal of "creating a new universe!" was laughable.This is a problem I had with Ruby/Sapphire,with making some Pokemon practically gods,but the latest batch took it to a new level.I liked the simple,down-to-earth feeling of the first two generations.While the second generation might have bumped up the significance of legendary Pokemon a bit,there was nothing that felt over-the-top or out-of-place.

[QUOTE="the_wet_mop"] if you meant to say best story, then i could possibly agree though. VGobbsesser

I thought the story was terrible in the latest Pokemon games.The absolutely absurd focus on mysticism and making Pokemon actual dieties within the game ruined it for me,and Team Galactic's goal of "creating a new universe!" was laughable.This is a problem I had with Ruby/Sapphire,with making some Pokemon practically gods,but the latest batch took it to a new level.I liked the simple,down-to-earth feeling of the first two generations.While the second generation might have bumped up the significance of legendary Pokemon a bit,there was nothing that felt over-the-top or out-of-place.

I think it's good that there are more legendarys in the main story. In FR ad LG, it was all fine with team rocket and all that, but there was no real story. all u know is that team rocket r bad for some reason, and u have to stop them. with D/P/Pt, you've got a maniac trying to destroy the world with, mythical creatures. there is actually a good reason to stop them. also, they r stronger and have more pkmn, also they have 3/4commanders, then 1 boss. R/S/E were good as well, as if u stop the sea would expand/dissapear(once again, a good reason to stop them.)Also, the distorsion world was great.

[QUOTE="the_wet_mop"] if you meant to say best story, then i could possibly agree though. VGobbsesser

I thought the story was terrible in the latest Pokemon games.The absolutely absurd focus on mysticism and making Pokemon actual dieties within the game ruined it for me,and Team Galactic's goal of "creating a new universe!" was laughable.This is a problem I had with Ruby/Sapphire,with making some Pokemon practically gods,but the latest batch took it to a new level.I liked the simple,down-to-earth feeling of the first two generations.While the second generation might have bumped up the significance of legendary Pokemon a bit,there was nothing that felt over-the-top or out-of-place.

i can see where you're coming from. team rocket in RBY had very little effect on the world/the game story. in DPPt, team glactic and its diety pokemon have a huge effect on the world. the downside to the latter is that it does seem over the top. IMO RSE had the best story. i felt like i was actually making a difference by stopping magma or aqua, but it wasnt just another "someone/thing is going to destroy the world" game.

[QUOTE="wiidskirby"]

Kind of. Maybe it is just nostalgia, but I bought Diamond a few weeks ago, and started a new game after a couple of weeks, but I grew bored.

With the first two generations, I was able to keep starting over and enjoy it just the same.

Technically speaking, Diamond/Pearl are the best, but I can't wait for HeartGold and SoulSilver, which should technically be the best and will have the best gameplay.

the_wet_mop

ummm...what? if its technically the best, that means its gameplay is the best. if you meant to say best story, then i could possibly agree though.

Just by content and graphics and such.

One day, my interest in it just vanished. I might look into the two remakes, but after that I'm done.

Yep, topic says it all. Got at least one of the major Pokemon games of every generation so far but for me the newer games (Ruby and so on) lost the Pokemon "feeling" for me. I don't even finished Pokemon Diamond because it's just not interesting. Maybe I'm just not the age for Pokemon games anymore (19) but otherwise I'm totally eager to see HeartGold and SoulSilver because I think those will give me this old feeling back. Do other people think so too? Or am I just not a normal Pokemon fan anymore?

uRan_Ehr

In my opinion Pokemon games aren't dull or repetetive, they just follow the same formula with slight changes, and different story lines( though the story never significantly changes). Nintendo or whomever makes the Pokemon games needs to be a bit more creative in their approach to new pokemon games though. Pokemon Dash is a prime example of dull, and repetetive, though all the other Pokemon games I've played have been addicting at times. Maybe the day will come when they add aditional game mechanics, such as being able to dodge attacks, or use pokemon's individual abilites to progress through the region.

In my opinion Pokemon games aren't dull or repetetive, they just follow the same formula with slight changes, and different story lines( though the story never significantly changes). Nintendo or whomever makes the Pokemon games needs to be a bit more creative in their approach to new pokemon games though. Pokemon Dash is a prime example of dull, and repetetive, though all the other Pokemon games I've played have been addicting at times. Maybe the day will come when they add aditional game mechanics, such as being able to dodge attacks, or use pokemon's individual abilites to progress through the region.

Bongolito

How exactly is what you just said not indicative of a repetitve franchise? No one is saying the gameplay in each individual game is repetitive. We're saying that the series has gotten to the point where every new gen of games is just repeating what came before except with minor changes.