Does every game need to use the d***n Wii Remote?

OK... Let me edit this a bit no not put too much blame on Nintendo...:)

Does every game need to use the d***n Wii Remote? Ok developers... I know the Wii remote is Nintendo's new thing. And hey! Its pretty cool. Well that is when a game calls for it. Common developers! Not EVERY game needs to use the Wii Remote. And don't get me wrong. I know not every game does, and I love that, but the majority do. I keep reading time after time about how great a game is on every console except the Wii only due to the use of the Remote. Do developers not read reviews? Do they not understand that some games just do not correctly transfer from controller to remote? At the very least do what has been done with Smash Bros, Mortal Kombat and the few others. Make them available to use with the remote OR the controller. I love the Wii! Its a great idea and something new but it would be nice to play games also released on the PS3/360 in the same (and usually correctly developed) manner. Leave the remote developed games for the remote and the controller developed games for the controller. PLEASE STOP RUSHING HORRIBLE WII PORTS!

Referring mostly to the games also being released on the PS3/360.DavidEisenhauer

I don't even know where to start........

When you get in a car do you utter the phrase "Why am I only limited to using a wheel?"

The Wii's MAIN CONTROLLER is the Wiimote and chuck, that means when you go looking for your console of choice you have to factor in the controller.

If you didn't want the controller to be used then you shouldn't have purchased the system.

Ok, I'm not sure if I'm correctly getting my point across. I love the Wii Remote! Its great and allows for a whole new way of gaming. There are many great games that work beautifully for it! What I am saying is... If there is a game released for all three systems, and if transfers well from controller to remote then go for it! Or at the very least allow for both remote or controller (as as some games already do). What my problem is... Why release an inferior game just so it can be used with the remote? If the game is better with a controller then it should be used with one. It seams like Nintendo cares more about a game being able to use the remote then it does the game itself. Would you rather play a horrible version of a game on the Wii just so you can say you used the remote? That makes no sense.

Once again... I am not bashing the Wii Remote! I LOVE THE DARN THING!:)

Ok, I'm not sure if I'm correctly getting my point across. I love the Wii Remote! Its great and allows for a whole new way of gaming. There are many great games that work beautifully for it! What I am saying is... If there is a game released for all three systems, and if transfers well from controller to remote then go for it! Or at the very least allow for both remote or controller (as as some games already do). What my problem is... Why release an inferior game just so it can be used with the remote? If the game is better with a controller then it should be used with one. It seams like Nintendo cares more about a game being able to use the remote then it does the game itself. Would you rather play a horrible version of a game on the Wii just so you can say you used the remote? That makes no sense.

Once again... I am not bashing the Wii Remote! I LOVE THE DARN THING!:)

DavidEisenhauer

If you're just asking why, the answer is simple. If a game is being released on all three systems, while there are siginificant differences between PS3/360 and Wii hardware, Wiimote included, the developer just wants sales. So he won't care about what is being done with the Wiimote.

However, there has been efforts with multiplat games, such as Madden or PES.

Nintendo has done a really good job with the Wiimote so far, except maybe for Zelda which is a GC game. I think you should reserve your rant for other developers. :)Wintry_Flutist

Exactly. Nintendo's perfectly demonstrated how good Wii controls can work in games, and when there was no real need for them in a game (Mario Kart Wii, Brawl), they also let you use the GC controller or the traditional controller, so they can't be blamed for anything.

The real problem is the horde of third-party developers that hastily releases Wii games (most of which simply ports from other systems) with clunky and unnecessary Wiimote controls implemented in order to make a quick buck.

The real problem is the horde of third-party developers that hastily releases Wii games (most of which simply ports from other systems) with clunky and unnecessary Wiimote controls implemented in order to make a quick buck.

DraugenCP

AHH FINALLY! Thank you! That is more or less what I was getting at. So I guess you are correct. Nintendo is not 100% to blame but they should tack on some "rules" for developing Wii games or something. LOL! And again I am mainly talking about ports like Tony Hawk, Tomb Raider, etc. That are great games with a controller on other systems but no so good with the Remote on the Wii. I will probably never say that a Nintendo made game (SSBB, Mario Kart, etc) is a bad games. Nintendo knows how to handle the remote with their games and develops them around it. Where as other companies develop their games for a controller on the PS3/360 and then port it over to the Wii to use on the remote. It just doesn't work.

Well I'm certainly not saying that games should not be ported to Wii Remote usage. It works very well in some cases. And in those cases go for it! But it just seams silly when it doesn't work to purposefully make an inferior game just so you can say it can be played with the remote when the system accepts controllers as well. DavidEisenhauer

Again, that isn't Nintendo's fault. Its the fault of the developer. Often times development of Wii games will take place with another developer often seperate from the dev of the PS3/360 versions. Many times these are rush jobs where basic controls have to be shoe-horned in a hurry to meet the release of the other versions. A shorter development time is a great way to ruin the fun factor of every game.

Nintendo doesn't force every developer to use the Wii Remote. They choose to as a selling point. Its up to the individual devs to make sure that what they release uses the Wii-mote well. If they want to be an asshat and put out a shoddy product without support of a controller that they do know how to work with, its their own fault, not Nintendo's.

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

The real problem is the horde of third-party developers that hastily releases Wii games (most of which simply ports from other systems) with clunky and unnecessary Wiimote controls implemented in order to make a quick buck.

DavidEisenhauer

AHH FINALLY! Thank you! That is more or less what I was getting at. So I guess you are correct. Nintendo is not 100% to blame but they should tack on some "rules" for developing Wii games or something. LOL! And again I am mainly talking about ports like Tony Hawk, Tomb Raider, etc. That are great games with a controller on other systems but no so good with the Remote on the Wii.

You only realized it now? :|

Sorry, but it doesn't take a genius to know Nintendo is only responsible for their games. Did you think they made the Wii versions of multiplat games?

[QUOTE="DavidEisenhauer"][QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

The real problem is the horde of third-party developers that hastily releases Wii games (most of which simply ports from other systems) with clunky and unnecessary Wiimote controls implemented in order to make a quick buck.

Wintry_Flutist

AHH FINALLY! Thank you! That is more or less what I was getting at. So I guess you are correct. Nintendo is not 100% to blame but they should tack on some "rules" for developing Wii games or something. LOL! And again I am mainly talking about ports like Tony Hawk, Tomb Raider, etc. That are great games with a controller on other systems but no so good with the Remote on the Wii.

You only realized it now? :|

Sorry, but it doesn't take a genius to know Nintendo is only responsible for their games. Did you think they made the Wii versions of multiplat games?

No. But it is their system shouldn't they have a say? Why make your system look bad by licencing a horrible port? I never really meant to put all the blame on Nintendo. I was talking about all developers in general. Nintendo just became my escape goat. Not too fair of me since Nintendo is the only one who really does develop their games correctly around the remote.

No. But it is their system shouldn't they have a say? Why make your system look bad by licencing a horrible port?

DavidEisenhauer

It's easy to say, but it's not like you can make a rule so that only good games are made. Specially when there are GIANT publishers like EA, Activision, Ubisoft etc, who won't care about game quality all the time. And how can you refuse their support when they publish tens of games a year?

True... Its just sad so see such bad ports of great games on the Wii. That's less sales for Nintendo and more for the PS3/360.DavidEisenhauer

I will say its hard to find a bad Wii port of a game that was actually good on other systems. From what I've seen, if a game is just bad already, Wii controls can't fix that.

It's the third parties fault then, according to your point. But every day there are more games with multiple controller choice, so you can be happy now.Thiago26792

Thank god! :)

Like I said... If it works then do it but if a game is developed around a controller don't just rush it over to the Wii to be used on the remote when it was never meant to be. I love the idea of the multiple controller choice. This way you can play it (the usually correctly developed way) with a controller or (the usually rushed way) with the remote.

It's the third parties fault then, according to your point. But every day there are more games with multiple controller choice, so you can be happy now.Thiago26792

Or he could have purchased the right console to start with

[QUOTE="Thiago26792"]It's the third parties fault then, according to your point. But every day there are more games with multiple controller choice, so you can be happy now.Jaysonguy

Or he could have purchased the right console to start with

I did. I love the Wii. I just hate bad ports that make no sense using the remote. The games that were developed around the remote are usually pretty good!

Why bother with a Wii at all if you are not going to use the Wiimote? I can only think of two, 1st party titles and cost. By demanding the removal of one of the only 3 unique parts of the console you are pulling out the last critical leg of the stool for it to stand up... So yes, every game should use the Wiimote if for nothing else than to point at the screen with to select menus... raahsnavj

Even if the port is rushed or proves to not transfer well to the remote? You do realize that if 75% of Wii games use the remote and the other 25% (ports that don't use it well) use the controller you still have a great system that lets you use the amazing remote but also lets you correctly play ports when needed with the controller. This would be like if the the VC games were ported to use the remote (not in the nes way) it wouldn't work or be the correctly developed way of playing. Like I said above. Games developed around the remote should use the remote and games developed around a controller should use a controller. Its like sticking a rocket (aka Wii Remote) on the back of your car (aka controller developed game). It might look cool, it might be new, but its impracticable and not what the car was developed for.

[QUOTE="Thiago26792"]It's the third parties fault then, according to your point. But every day there are more games with multiple controller choice, so you can be happy now.Jaysonguy

Or he could have purchased the right console to start with

He bought the right console. He bought a console with multiple controller choice and that's what he wanted, since he likes both the Wii mote and classic controllers.

[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]Why bother with a Wii at all if you are not going to use the Wiimote? I can only think of two, 1st party titles and cost. By demanding the removal of one of the only 3 unique parts of the console you are pulling out the last critical leg of the stool for it to stand up... So yes, every game should use the Wiimote if for nothing else than to point at the screen with to select menus... DavidEisenhauer

Even if the port is rushed or proves to not transfer well to the remote? You do realize that if 75% of Wii games use the remote and the other 25% (ports that don't use it well) use the controller you still have a great system that lets you use the amazing remote but also lets you correctly play ports when needed with the controller. This would be like if the the VC games were ported to use the remote (not in the nes way) it wouldn't work or be the correctly developed way of playing. Like I said above. Games developed around the remote should use the remote and games developed around a controller should use a controller. Its like sticking a rocket (aka Wii Remote) on the back of your car (aka controller developed game). It might look cool, it might be new, but its impracticable and not what the car was developed for.

madden and wii sports were the only games that actually worked well with wiimotespree14m