Does Nintendo need to release more 1st party games more often?

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#1 LESROU
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Ok, so heres my thoughts. 3rd party support for Nintendo is horrible!! Is has been since N64 days. My only reason for purchasing nintendo is for the 1st party games.

And this is the case for many gamers from what I have heard. To be frank I worry for Ninty, 3rd Party's this Gen has really sucked big time. Maybe the worst its ever been for them. And i am not talking sales, but quality. Where are the big multi plats? (SF4, Bioshock, AC, MWF2 etc etc.) Where is our AAAE 3rd party games?

So, does Nintendo have to adrress this seriously. Like build more 1st party studios? We seriously need more f-zero, starfox, donkey kong, pikmin, kirby... hell i will even take a ice climbers game.

the lack of Nintendo IP's this gen is dissappointing.

just my two cents.

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#2 Zanoh
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Compared to the gamecube, the wii has more third party AAE games. So I'd say Nintendo should still do what they do and let third party companies try to shine more.

Seriously I owned a GCN and the droughts were more horrible than the N64 even though first party support was there.

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#3 Arc2012
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Do they need to? No. Would it be awesome if they could release more games at the same quality they have normally. Of course.
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#4 historyofmagic
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I think too many people look back on the GCN and N64 with rose colored glasses. I love those systems, but the quality of games can't compare with the Wii. People who say the Wii is the worst Nintendo console must have short memories; there was a topic up a while ago about this and the majority said the Wii was the worst. The first party titles have been good on the Wii; it sucks that a lot of Nintendo's development is drained up making Wii Sports / Fit etc, but it's going to be the first system since the NES to have at least two main Mario and two main Zelda titles, as well as two Metroid titles, so that seems pretty good to me.
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#5 GabuEx
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I'm sure that if Nintendo felt they could make more money by doing so, they would. I mean it's not like Nintendo is just sitting on piles of moneybags twirling their mustaches while chortling at those poor gamers for whom they consciously refuse to make games despite being able to do so.

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#6 Sepewrath
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Yeah they don't want to overload the market, that only causes people to lose interest. Also that would be bad news for the 3rd party, granted they having made any real effort to take advantage of the space Nintendo leaves them i.e. the second half of 2008 and early 2009. Imagine if Nintendo had released Galaxy 2 the same weak at Tri, I bet Tri wouldn't be doing nearly as well as is. Like Gabu said, its clearly not viable from a business standpoint, otherwise they would do it.
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#7 muscle_shark
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Ok, so heres my thoughts. 3rd party support for Nintendo is horrible!! Is has been since N64 days. My only reason for purchasing nintendo is for the 1st party games.

And this is the case for many gamers from what I have heard. To be frank I worry for Ninty, 3rd Party's this Gen has really sucked big time. Maybe the worst its ever been for them. And i am not talking sales, but quality. Where are the big multi plats? (SF4, Bioshock, AC, MWF2 etc etc.) Where is our AAAE 3rd party games?

So, does Nintendo have to adrress this seriously. Like build more 1st party studios? We seriously need more f-zero, starfox, donkey kong, pikmin, kirby... hell i will even take a ice climbers game.

the lack of Nintendo IP's this gen is dissappointing.

just my two cents.

Rant over

LESROU

Agreed 100%. I could care less about most 3rd party games. I only buy nintendo systems so I can play mario, zelda etc. Starfox and f-zero should have been released a long time ago.

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[QUOTE="LESROU"]

Ok, so heres my thoughts. 3rd party support for Nintendo is horrible!! Is has been since N64 days. My only reason for purchasing nintendo is for the 1st party games.

And this is the case for many gamers from what I have heard. To be frank I worry for Ninty, 3rd Party's this Gen has really sucked big time. Maybe the worst its ever been for them. And i am not talking sales, but quality. Where are the big multi plats? (SF4, Bioshock, AC, MWF2 etc etc.) Where is our AAAE 3rd party games?

So, does Nintendo have to adrress this seriously. Like build more 1st party studios? We seriously need more f-zero, starfox, donkey kong, pikmin, kirby... hell i will even take a ice climbers game.

the lack of Nintendo IP's this gen is dissappointing.

just my two cents.

Rant over

muscle_shark

Agreed 100%. I could care less about most 3rd party games. I only buy nintendo systems so I can play mario, zelda etc. Starfox and f-zero should have been released a long time ago.

I agree too, same reason i bought the Wii

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Of course they will make Wii fit and Wii sports resort over Starfox and F-zero. Huge difference in sales, those franchises are expendable. That doesn't mean we won't see more of them in the future though.

Actually I'd rather play Resort than those :P

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Nintendo probably just wants to stay small. Maybe they think their quality would suffer if they got too big.

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#11 Senor_Kami
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They already release a lot imo. SMG, Wii Fit, Mario Kart, Wii Sports, Brawl, Zelda, NSMBW, Metroid Prime, Mario Party, Wii Sports Resort, Metroid Other M, SMG2, Wii Fit Plus and there a bunch more and I haven't included any DS games. I don't think they could release more and not have quality control issues.
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#12 locopatho
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They release enough games. I do wish it was Star Fox, Donkey Kong, F Zero instead of Wii Fit... But can't fault them for quantity!
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#13 MangaPicture
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The Wii has better 3rd Party support than Gamecube and especially N64.

Monster Hunter, Silent Hill, Samurai Warriors, No More Heroes, several niche games, soon Dragon Quest 10, Bully, Capcom VS., Dead Space, and so on.

It's also better than N64 in terms of 1st party. Where was Metroid 64, Wario Land 64, Punch Out 64, a second Mario 64, etc etc?

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#14 wiifan001
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Even Nintendo has limits. They're always making multiple titles are frequently release and publish more video games than most other companies in the console gaming market. Even Nintendo, the greatest company in the world, is still finite. Furthermore, I'd also like to point out that Nintendo has possibly more franchises than other company on the market. So, some expect sequels, some new Ips, some expect "nostalgia," and some expect VC titles and people have to complain about it even when Ninetendo is delivering exactly what an individual wants.
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#15 locopatho
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The Wii has better 3rd Party support than Gamecube and especially N64.

Monster Hunter, Silent Hill, Samurai Warriors, No More Heroes, several niche games, soon Dragon Quest 10, Bully, Capcom VS., Dead Space, and so on.

It's also better than N64 in terms of 1st party. Where was Metroid 64, Wario Land 64, Punch Out 64, a second Mario 64, etc etc?

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Man! More like where's Banjo 1 + 2, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, Wave Race, 1080 Snowboarding, F Zero, Donkey Kong, Kirby, Yoshi's Story, Lylat Wars, Diddy Kong Racing, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Pokemon Stadium, Pokemon Snap, Pilotwings on Wii? *Nothing* can beat N64's 1st/2nd party lineup imo.
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[QUOTE="LESROU"]

Ok, so heres my thoughts. 3rd party support for Nintendo is horrible!! Is has been since N64 days. My only reason for purchasing nintendo is for the 1st party games.

And this is the case for many gamers from what I have heard. To be frank I worry for Ninty, 3rd Party's this Gen has really sucked big time. Maybe the worst its ever been for them. And i am not talking sales, but quality. Where are the big multi plats? (SF4, Bioshock, AC, MWF2 etc etc.) Where is our AAAE 3rd party games?

So, does Nintendo have to adrress this seriously. Like build more 1st party studios? We seriously need more f-zero, starfox, donkey kong, pikmin, kirby... hell i will even take a ice climbers game.

the lack of Nintendo IP's this gen is dissappointing.

just my two cents.

Rant over

nintendo should just ban the third party companies from making games. they really make the wii look stupid
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#17 GabuEx
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nintendo should just ban the third party companies from making games. they really make the wii look stupidpokemondude2012

I'm fairly sure that no one has ever gone, "You know, I was going to get a Wii, but look at this stupid game on the Wii; I'd buy a Wii if only this game wasn't released on it."

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#18 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="pokemondude2012"]. nintendo should just ban the third party companies from making games. they really make the wii look stupid

do not get a wii. they are the worst console ever. and i mean EVERpokemondude2012
who really cares for new downloads for th wii. wii is not worth getting downloads for.pokemondude2012
OK, I just to have to ask: What the hell are you hanging around the wii forums for?
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nintendo has to release their games between the mega hyped third parties.
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[QUOTE="pokemondude2012"] [QUOTE="pokemondude2012"]do not get a wii. they are the worst console ever. and i mean EVERwiifan001
who really cares for new downloads for th wii. wii is not worth getting downloads for.pokemondude2012
OK, I just to have to ask: What the hell are you hanging around the wii forums for?

i own a wii and i would like to know if anytning good is on it. not like it can be done
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#21 GabuEx
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i own a wii and i would like to know if anytning good is on it. not like it can be donepokemondude2012

If you're just here to troll Wii owners who do not regret their purchase, please do so elsewhere.

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#22 osan0
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ive got more 3rd party then first party games on the wii....strange :S. anywho absolutely not. its not just a case if they can bump out a zelda or a mario platformer every year. games take alot of time to make....for ninty games especially its usually 3 years. they could get more developers but its not like every dev is up to the job of making a zelda adventure or mario platformer up to the standard of ninty themselves. i would rather ninty deliver the quality and jaw dropping experiences than rush out some crap every year or 2. id also prefer it if more wii owners tried 3rd party games before going nuts. MH3 was recently released...top notch game. and if you dont have the likes of little kings story, boom blox and okami then really (and going by sales of those games..id wager that quite a few people here dont)....what are you complaining about? go get em. thats just me though.
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#23 Los9090
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Wasn't that the issue with Game Cube, not enough 3rd party games?

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Yeah they don't want to overload the market, that only causes people to lose interest. Also that would be bad news for the 3rd party, granted they having made any real effort to take advantage of the space Nintendo leaves them i.e. the second half of 2008 and early 2009. Imagine if Nintendo had released Galaxy 2 the same weak at Tri, I bet Tri wouldn't be doing nearly as well as is. Like Gabu said, its clearly not viable from a business standpoint, otherwise they would do it. Sepewrath

This is pretty much how i feel, but i would also like to add another point. Compared to the GC and N64 Nintendo have released alot more 1st party titles. When was the last time we got 2 3d mario platformers in one gen? never :P

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#25 JuarN18
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I don't care about the quantity of the games but the quality, maybe because i can't play alot of games like before :?

btw i'm only missing fzero, donkey kong,starfox and kirby are dead

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#26 MathMattS
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I'll definitely agree that the third-party support for Nintendo is terrible, especially as an owner of both a Wii and a 360, where the third-party support is much stronger. I would like to see some more first-party games released more often, but not at the expense of quality.

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#27 ASK_Story
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It may not seem like it, but the Wii has had the most first party games from Nintendo among all their systems, maybe the SNES had more. Also, the third-party support has been much better than it was on the N64 or Gamecube. Again, it may not seem that way but it has improved. I mean, we're getting Dragon Quest X! And for me, that's good enough!
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#28 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="pokemondude2012"]i own a wii and i would like to know if anytning good is on it. not like it can be doneGabuEx

If you're just here to troll Wii owners who do not regret their purchase, please do so elsewhere.

For real.
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#29 aransom
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Wasn't that the issue with Game Cube, not enough 3rd party games?

Los9090

I always thought the Game Cube's main problem was that Nintendo's competitors managed to convince people it was only for kids.

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#30 aransom
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nintendo should just ban the third party companies from making games. they really make the wii look stupidpokemondude2012
Isn't that kind of like saying a certain blu-ray player is stupid because it can play 'My Little Pony' movies?

It's not Nintendo's job to police the quality of 3rd party games, that's the job of consumers.

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#31 ekalbtwin
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Nintendo is smart enough to know that they have to release their big hitters in a very timely way. If the big N did have the ability to release a OoT kind of game, as in how great it is, not its actual genre, every few months they would soon be over looked as there would be plenty of them. To their credit Nintendo has done a good job with releasing 1st party without having it compete against itself. We had brawl and galaxy in a years time, as well as metroid and zelda, and none of them had to fight the other. I would personally like to see about three or so BIG games a year, but I think that there also needs to be some 3rd party ones in that number and a few not quite as big but still biggish game like Mario party(if they can fresh it up a bit) and Mario cart.
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#32 mariokart64fan
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ill tell you where pilot wings,star fox fzero and waveraceaswell as 1080 is on wii

the virtualconsole hahha

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#33 halfmask
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I wouldn't want to see Nintendo trade quality for quantity, so I don't overly mind. There are some games that I'd like to see released more frequently, but Nintendo can only do so much. It's true that most 3rd party games are garbage, but if you search closely, you can find some good ones.