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Nintendo screwed over it's users by not providing dev units soon enough for third party devs to know the ins and outs well, because of that we had a mostly inferior third party lineup from devs and anyone who's not on board now will never be on board.
They launched a console with a painfully slow OS that takes in some cases minutes to switch between screens
And to top it off they decided that they weren't going to make games for months after the console released.
Nintendo failed on their end of the bargain.
Don't tell people to sit down and love that they got screwed.
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Nintendo screwed over it's users by not providing dev units soon enough for third party devs to know the ins and outs well, because of that we had a mostly inferior third party lineup from devs and anyone who's not on board now will never be on board.
They launched a console with a painfully slow OS that takes in some cases minutes to switch between screens
And to top it off they decided that they weren't going to make games for months after the console released.
Nintendo failed on their end of the bargain.
Don't tell people to sit down and love that they got screwed.
Jaysonguy
He didn't say that.
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Nintendo screwed over it's users by not providing dev units soon enough for third party devs to know the ins and outs well, because of that we had a mostly inferior third party lineup from devs and anyone who's not on board now will never be on board.
They launched a console with a painfully slow OS that takes in some cases minutes to switch between screens
And to top it off they decided that they weren't going to make games for months after the console released.
Nintendo failed on their end of the bargain.
Don't tell people to sit down and love that they got screwed.
YearoftheSnake5
He didn't say that.
Title of the thread says otherwise. :PIm having fun with the Wii U. If you're not TC, why do you have to come here and point it out to everyone? Blog it.
These troll topics are getting stupid. Take it to System Wars if nothing else. Leave these forums to actual constructive discussion for Nintendo consoles.
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Nintendo screwed over it's users by not providing dev units soon enough for third party devs to know the ins and outs well, because of that we had a mostly inferior third party lineup from devs and anyone who's not on board now will never be on board.
They launched a console with a painfully slow OS that takes in some cases minutes to switch between screens
And to top it off they decided that they weren't going to make games for months after the console released.
Nintendo failed on their end of the bargain.
Don't tell people to sit down and love that they got screwed.
superbuuman
He didn't say that.
Title of the thread says otherwise. :P no, the title says "you thought the system was worth $300-350, don't act like you deserve some compensation when the price lowers". things go down in price. the wii u will go down in price. the 3DS will go down in price a second time. but people shouldn't assume they'll get compensated for paying more at an earlier date, just because nintendo felt bad about doing it so soon one time.[QUOTE="superbuuman"]Title of the thread says otherwise. :P no, the title says "you thought the system was worth $300-350, don't act like you deserve some compensation when the price lowers". things go down in price. the wii u will go down in price. the 3DS will go down in price a second time. but people shouldn't assume they'll get compensated for paying more at an earlier date, just because nintendo felt bad about doing it so soon one time.[QUOTE="YearoftheSnake5"]
He didn't say that.
BrunoBRS
Same thing, Jaysonguy just put it in a harsher tone. :P
This troll topic is NOT fine.
soundcellx
Makes me wonder if people even read anymore. This isn't a troll topic. This isn't negatively bashing the Wii U. This is a thread about the eventuality of a price drop and people's expectations of an ambassador program.Im having fun with the Wii U. If you're not TC, why do you have to come here and point it out to everyone? Blog it.
These troll topics are getting stupid. Take it to System Wars if nothing else. Leave these forums to actual constructive discussion for Nintendo consoles.
svaubel
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Nintendo screwed over it's users by not providing dev units soon enough for third party devs to know the ins and outs well, because of that we had a mostly inferior third party lineup from devs and anyone who's not on board now will never be on board.
They launched a console with a painfully slow OS that takes in some cases minutes to switch between screens
And to top it off they decided that they weren't going to make games for months after the console released.
Nintendo failed on their end of the bargain.
Don't tell people to sit down and love that they got screwed.
superbuuman
He didn't say that.
Title of the thread says otherwise. :P @ Superbuuman: Perhaps I could have phrased the title a bit better, but Year of the Snake is correct @ JaysonGuy: How long would you like Nintendo to hold your hand before they drop the price on the device? You're an adult who knows that being an early adopter has its cons. Did you demand a refund from your Wireless Phone provider when they sold the phone you purchased for X amount for half that price weeks or months later? Also, they didn't exactly decide "Lol let's not release any games in Jan/Feb." You know its not that simple. With sales how they are they would likely release Wii Fit U, Pikmin 3, Wario, Wonderful 101 if they were finished. Fact is they aren't.Didn't notice this the first time but,... Did you tell me to be quiet? On the internet? Like, really? You don't have to read/post in this thread if you don't like it.Quiet
Nintendo screwed over it's users by not providing dev units soon enough for third party devs to know the ins and outs well, because of that we had a mostly inferior third party lineup from devs and anyone who's not on board now will never be on board.
They launched a console with a painfully slow OS that takes in some cases minutes to switch between screens
And to top it off they decided that they weren't going to make games for months after the console released.
Nintendo failed on their end of the bargain.
Don't tell people to sit down and love that they got screwed.
Jaysonguy
I agree. Â The simple fact is this- especially on gaming website forums - we're well informed as to what will or will not be released. Â I wait to purchase a new console until a must have game of my taste arises, for the Wii U that has not happened yet so I have refrained from purchasing one.
Adopting a console early always runs certain risks such as software/hardware malfunction, future price drops etc.
That's the way the gaming market works. Â You don't like it, don't endorse a company's product.Â
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I'm not expecting anything. I am an early adopter at my own risk and it's not like Nintendo is trying to rip us off. They may be having trouble, so why should we impose a rewards program that puts even more pressure on the company? How needy can we get? I'm not sure why they felt obligated to implement the ambassador program for the 3DS but I admire them for it.
Why is anything negative against nintendo or suggesting a price drop incoming a troll to you? Like seriously, get out :lol: This thread isn't even negative. Anyway, I completely agree with the OP. Nintendo is NOT obliged to provide such a service because they drop the price. Anyone who has bought the system already (I included) were early adopters and we decided we'd buy the system at that price. Nintendo didn't hold a gun to our head and force us to buy it, we made a choice to buy it at that price.Nintendo is fine.
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Wii U is fine.
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This troll topic is NOT fine.
soundcellx
They didn't need to do an ambassador program. I bought what I bought. I knew what I was getting myself into. I wasn't expecting anything for the 3DS and I'm not expecting anything for the Wii U.Â
In regards to whether they'll do a price drop; I think they'll do more bundles before slashing the price. We'll see.Â
Don't act entitled to an Ambassador Program when Wii U price drops @ E3 or after
bonesawisready5
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Stop complaining about the translation process.bonesawisready5
...and stop telling us what to do. :P
$50 price cut wont help much imo anyways. Heil68$250/$300 at next holiday with Mario and Smash Bros out?
I think the economy is a problem. If you look at the recent console/handheld launches the numbers have been down.Empty_World
Consoles and games cost less to buy now then they did in 2006.
You can buy more with your dollar then you could in 2006.
Enough with the economy excuse
I don;t think the Wii U even needs a price drop. $300 isn't that expensive for a console. It just needs more games.Toxic-SeahorseActually, it's pricing considering the machine is using tech from six to seven years ago. The only reason why the Wii U is even at 300 is because of the tablet controller. Had Nintendo just stuck with traditional controls, we'd have seen it at priced no more than 250, the same price of the original Wii.
[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]I don;t think the Wii U even needs a price drop. $300 isn't that expensive for a console. It just needs more games.JustPlainLucasActually, it's pricing considering the machine is using tech from six to seven years ago. The only reason why the Wii U is even at 300 is because of the tablet controller. Had Nintendo just stuck with traditional controls, we'd have seen it at priced no more than 250, the same price of the original Wii. I was factoring in the controller and the SSD as well. It's not all that expensive for what it comes with, Nintendo just isn't executing properly. The OS is simply too slow for such a new system, hopefully they can get that worked out. I think they rushed to release it before the holiday.
I don't expect anything from Nintendo should they drop the price soon.
I decided that the Deluxe Bundle was worth spending my $350 on, so I bought it. Â I bought it expecting that Nintendo would drop the price within a year (or earlier) but I wanted it day one so I bought it. Â That's all I'm entitled to.
At this point I don't even expect games I can buy to come to Wii U, never mind free ones :P.
Also, the 3DS Ambassador games were't just given because of the price drop. They where also given out because of the lack of games released up until that point as well, so if you factor in that the Wii U is in a far worse version of the same situation the 3DS was in, Nintendo might just see fit to do another Ambasador Program, but who knows, in the end it's up to them.
I'm not looking for an Ambassador Program. I got my Wii U because I feel that the launch lineup(Pikmin 3), and promising 1st party games in the future are worth it. Of course, Pikmin got pushed back and Rayman was recently shafted; so I'm waiting a bit longer than I'd like for games that I purchased the system for. Still, I have plenty of games to preoccupy me until then.
If Nintendo comes out with another Ambassador Program, great, but I didn't buy the system with a sense that the company would give me handouts if things didn't go according to their plan.
I'm not looking for an Ambassador Program. I got my Wii U because I feel that the launch lineup(Pikmin 3), and promising 1st party games in the future are worth it. Of course, Pikmin got pushed back and Rayman was recently shafted; so I'm waiting a bit longer than I'd like for games that I purchased the system for. Still, I have plenty of games to preoccupy me until then.
If Nintendo comes out with another Ambassador Program, great, but I didn't buy the system with a sense that the company would give me handouts if things didn't go according to their plan.
YearoftheSnake5
So you bought the Wii U thinking that the OS would be broken and that Nintendo would pull games from the schedule and then apologize for the console having no games?
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I'm not looking for an Ambassador Program. I got my Wii U because I feel that the launch lineup(Pikmin 3), and promising 1st party games in the future are worth it. Of course, Pikmin got pushed back and Rayman was recently shafted; so I'm waiting a bit longer than I'd like for games that I purchased the system for. Still, I have plenty of games to preoccupy me until then.
If Nintendo comes out with another Ambassador Program, great, but I didn't buy the system with a sense that the company would give me handouts if things didn't go according to their plan.
Jaysonguy
So you bought the Wii U thinking that the OS would be broken and that Nintendo would pull games from the schedule and then apologize for the console having no games?
The OS isn't broken, it is just too damn slow. It still works.[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="YearoftheSnake5"]
I'm not looking for an Ambassador Program. I got my Wii U because I feel that the launch lineup(Pikmin 3), and promising 1st party games in the future are worth it. Of course, Pikmin got pushed back and Rayman was recently shafted; so I'm waiting a bit longer than I'd like for games that I purchased the system for. Still, I have plenty of games to preoccupy me until then.
If Nintendo comes out with another Ambassador Program, great, but I didn't buy the system with a sense that the company would give me handouts if things didn't go according to their plan.
Toxic-Seahorse
So you bought the Wii U thinking that the OS would be broken and that Nintendo would pull games from the schedule and then apologize for the console having no games?
The OS isn't broken, it is just too damn slow. It still works.Waiting up to 5 minutes for an app to load or close is broken.
For some users posting to Miiverse and then back again takes over ten minutes of load times, that qualifies as broken.
Waiting up to 5 minutes for an app to load or close is broken.
For some users posting to Miiverse and then back again takes over ten minutes of load times, that qualifies as broken.
Jaysonguy
Maybe yours is broken because it doesn't take 5 minutes to load an app on the Wii U.
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Waiting up to 5 minutes for an app to load or close is broken.
For some users posting to Miiverse and then back again takes over ten minutes of load times, that qualifies as broken.
Haziqonfire
Maybe yours is broken because it doesn't take 5 minutes to load an app on the Wii U.
Mine doesn't, Jordan and I were watching people's consoles on YouTube
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Waiting up to 5 minutes for an app to load or close is broken.
For some users posting to Miiverse and then back again takes over ten minutes of load times, that qualifies as broken.
Jaysonguy
Maybe yours is broken because it doesn't take 5 minutes to load an app on the Wii U.
Mine doesn't, Jordan and I were watching people's consoles on YouTube
I've seen some that take 45 seconds, but I haven't seen 5 minutes. The normal wait time is 15 seconds.The OS isn't broken, it is just too damn slow. It still works.[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
So you bought the Wii U thinking that the OS would be broken and that Nintendo would pull games from the schedule and then apologize for the console having no games?
Jaysonguy
Waiting up to 5 minutes for an app to load or close is broken.
For some users posting to Miiverse and then back again takes over ten minutes of load times, that qualifies as broken.
Broken means that it doesn't work. The OS does work, it's just too slow. I've also never waited over a minute for an app to open or close.[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
Waiting up to 5 minutes for an app to load or close is broken.
For some users posting to Miiverse and then back again takes over ten minutes of load times, that qualifies as broken.
Jaysonguy
Maybe yours is broken because it doesn't take 5 minutes to load an app on the Wii U.
Mine doesn't, Jordan and I were watching people's consoles on YouTube
First I've heard of this. Yeah, sometimes it's slow, but never in the several minute mark.I'd like to add too that the whole criticism about updating the console at launch was overblown.
What electronics device do you own in today's world where you don't have to update firmware immediately? I got a new bluray player a few months ago, I had to update the device. I got the Samsung Galaxy S3 in December and also had to update that device as well as any of the apps that were pre-installed. The laptop I bought last April was the same deal (not to mention the fact that I use Ubuntu, I get updates everyday + the sudo update cmd). Updates are normal.
The amount of time it took to update was also expected. The first day of launch, thousands of people connecting online to download the update. Was 45 minutes of your time really that bad if you only had to do it once?
Anyway I'm getting off topic ... but it was just really bothersome.
I believe a lot of people were upset because they weren't expecting that from a Nintendo console. People want to rip open their systems and start playing, but some not only had to wait 45 minutes.. depending on their connection, they had to wait hours.I'd like to add too that the whole criticism about updating the console at launch was overblown.
What electronics device do you own in today's world where you don't have to update firmware immediately? I got a new bluray player a few months ago, I had to update the device. I got the Samsung Galaxy S3 in December and also had to update that device as well as any of the apps that were pre-installed. The laptop I bought last April was the same deal (not to mention the fact that I use Ubuntu, I get updates everyday + the sudo update cmd). Updates are normal.
The amount of time it took to update was also expected. The first day of launch, thousands of people connecting online to download the update. Was 45 minutes of your time really that bad if you only had to do it once?
Anyway I'm getting off topic ... but it was just really bothersome.
Haziqonfire
[QUOTE="Empty_World"]I think the economy is a problem. If you look at the recent console/handheld launches the numbers have been down.Jaysonguy
Consoles and games cost less to buy now then they did in 2006.
You can buy more with your dollar then you could in 2006.
Enough with the economy excuse
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