Dreamcast to Virtual Console ? !

I heard there was coming an new console to the Virtual Console games and i so hope that its the Dreamcast. i heard it was going to be 1200 points for each game. If it's true ill totally buy Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 and Soul Calibur . What games would you buy? And did you guys heard this to?

Dreamcast games are huge. One game wouldn't even fit on the Wii's internal flash memory. We need a hard drive. I have no clue why people keep asking this question...

I hope.. i would buy Nights.. i would like to se how the original worked.

Nights was a Saturn game.

i think they might cost a bit more than 1200, maybe 1500.blingchu55

That would make sense. The Dreamcast was actually last-gen while the N64 was 2 generations ago.

Dreamcast games are huge. One game wouldn't even fit on the Wii's internal flash memory. We need a hard drive. I have no clue why people keep asking this question...

I hope.. i would buy Nights.. i would like to se how the original worked.

Nights was a Saturn game.

Rocky32189

To be honest I think the Wii would have a hard time emulating the DC. It's a last-gen system. It may have been the first out, but it is still last-gen. There's no way the Wii could handle emulating it. If they were to do it, they'd have to port the games instead and that would be too time consuming and costly to be beneficial. I doubt Saturn games would be possible either because it was such a weird console in terms of hardware. Very hard to emulate.manicfoot

I have to agree with you about the Dreamcast being too advanced to be emulated by the Wii. It doesn't seem powerful enough for straight emulation. As for the Saturn, which is what I'm hoping for, I think they could pull it off. People have had a hard time emulating the system, but they're working as independent people on the internet. Nintendo and Sega are close companies now. If anybody could emulate the Saturn it would be the company who created it, Sega

I want Guardian Heroes!

I think that Saturn and Dreamcast games will find their way to the VC at some point once a harddrive is released. Maybe even GameCube games.JAB991

Why gamecube when you can still buy them and play them regularly on the wii. I would think the Saturn would work, but the dreamcast would take up too much memorybecause I doubt we're getting a harddrive. Personally I'd rather more good N64 titles to show up onvc.

If a bunch of script kiddies can get a very shaky emulator of Saturn and Dreamcast working, then I'm pretty sure people who do it on a professional level can pull it off.elfraydoh

Lol, do you realize that a computer is way more powerful than a Wii? The Wii is to weak to emulate the Dreamcast.
Software emulating is just to hardware demanding.

Note: The Gamecube is hardware emulated.

Need moar memory.

Nuff said.

If they do manage to make DC and SAT games downloadable, I'd like those old Treasure shooters to see just how awesome they are.

I hope.. i would buy Nights.. i would like to se how the original worked.jjr10

The original NIGHTs was a Saturn game, not Dreamcast.

And I agree with a few other posters: The Wii doesn't have enough "juice" to emulate the Dreamcast. Emulation requires the system emulating to be significantly stronger than the Hardware being emulated. There is a difference between the Hardwares for sure, but not it's not enough.

You do know that since Sega, is practically Nintendos best and only friend in the gaming world, considering the flop of the Dreamcast, theycould easily pull this off.

I want Hydro Thunder. =(

Never had a Dreamcast but have always had an interest for it. A nostalgia kind of interest now. If it were to happen I would be interested in Shenmue mainly. I have the secod for the Xbox and I gotta say that I feel it's a very overrated/overhyped game by gamers. But for some reason I feel the first may be better? Don't know why I have those thoughts...

[QUOTE="jjr10"]I hope.. i would buy Nights.. i would like to se how the original worked.ThePlothole

The original NIGHTs was a Saturn game, not Dreamcast.

And I agree with a few other posters: The Wii doesn't have enough "juice" to emulate the Dreamcast. Emulation requires the system emulating to be significantly stronger than the Hardware being emulated. There is a difference between the Hardwares for sure, but not it's not enough.

you never know. nintendo always has somethng up their sleeves. I dont know too much about the emulation process, but i thinkthey can find a way to make the DC games run like gamecube or N64 games by playing with the software codes. again, I dont know too much about it, but I figure since the Wii can run gamecube games by swithcing to a "gamecube mode," the programmers can make it seem that, when downloading and running a DC game, they can trick the Wii into thinking its a Gamecube game. If that could be done, the only tricky part would be emulating the controls (but i'm sure they can work something out.) Chop chop nintendo! I wanna play Jet Grind Radio! lol

Nintendo seems to work wonders with making files smaller.

I wouldn't doubt they could make it work. Hell if Super Mario 64 can be 10mb, then I'm sure Dreamcast games can get down there too.

Maybe.

I'd think they'll have a HDD sometime soon, esspecially if they add this. I'd like it to stay at 1000 points max though. I'm going to pay 1500 points for Dr. Mario so why more for an old game?

The Dreamcast is pratically impossible to be there for 2 reasons: Wii needs more power to emulate the Dreamcast and the Dreamcast used a modified CD that can go to 1.2 GB. The memory is 512 MB.

I can see the Sega Saturn.

However, the Sega CD and Master System have more chances to be there first.

Nintendo seems to work wonders with making files smaller.

I wouldn't doubt they could make it work. Hell if Super Mario 64 can be 10mb, then I'm sure Dreamcast games can get down there too.

Maybe.

I'd think they'll have a HDD sometime soon, esspecially if they add this. I'd like it to stay at 1000 points max though. I'm going to pay 1500 points for Dr. Mario so why more for an old game?

darth-pyschosis

SM64 was small since the N64 era.

Also, Dr.Mario on the wiiware will not be at 1500 Wiipoints. Only Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles on the Wiiwarehad been announced to be at1500 Wiipoints.

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]To be honest I think the Wii would have a hard time emulating the DC. It's a last-gen system. It may have been the first out, but it is still last-gen. There's no way the Wii could handle emulating it. If they were to do it, they'd have to port the games instead and that would be too time consuming and costly to be beneficial. I doubt Saturn games would be possible either because it was such a weird console in terms of hardware. Very hard to emulate.jaycromer12

I have to agree with you about the Dreamcast being too advanced to be emulated by the Wii. It doesn't seem powerful enough for straight emulation. As for the Saturn, which is what I'm hoping for, I think they could pull it off. People have had a hard time emulating the system, but they're working as independent people on the internet. Nintendo and Sega are close companies now. If anybody could emulate the Saturn it would be the company who created it, Sega

I want Guardian Heroes!

You are right, if they worked hard on it Saturn emulation could probably be worked out... But I seriously doubt Nintendo or Sega would go to that much trouble. The Saturn was only popular in Japan during it's lifetime but never really caught on in other regions. It isprobably something Sega wants to forget (kind of like what the Virtual Boy is to Nintendo but nowhere near as bad). Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE for Saturn games to come to Wii (I personally love Shinobi X and Nights) and I'm sure other gamers feel the same way, but I doubt the average Wii owner would really care that much.

[QUOTE="elfraydoh"]If a bunch of script kiddies can get a very shaky emulator of Saturn and Dreamcast working, then I'm pretty sure people who do it on a professional level can pull it off.Arnalion

Lol, do you realize that a computer is way more powerful than a Wii? The Wii is to weak to emulate the Dreamcast.
Software emulating is just to hardware demanding.

I used to think that way too, until someone managed to write an (albeit shaky) N64 emulator on the PSP, which is significantly weaker hardware-wise than the Wii. DC games can be emulated on a per-title basis to ensure maximum performance, it doesn't have to be a single emulator that they plug all the Dreamcast ISOs into as appears the case of all the other VC console titles....

Well the wii emulates game cube games dosn't it? i guess if it can do that it can do saturn and DC.. mariomusicmaker

Wii does not emulate the GameCube... Since the Wii is basically the GameCube on speed and the guts are basically the same it can just tell itself to go into 'GameCube' mode to play the games. It can't do that for any other console because the archetecture will be different.

well i think is possible with a HD, the wii don't necesary have to emulate the dreamcast game, why they don't use the engine that makes the Gc games playable, and porting the DC game around it, like the Final fantasy game in wiiware

Well the wii emulates game cube games dosn't it? i guess if it can do that it can do saturn and DC.. mariomusicmaker

Actually it has hardware that plays it

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[QUOTE="jjr10"]I hope.. i would buy Nights.. i would like to se how the original worked.icarus212001

The original NIGHTs was a Saturn game, not Dreamcast.

And I agree with a few other posters: The Wii doesn't have enough "juice" to emulate the Dreamcast. Emulation requires the system emulating to be significantly stronger than the Hardware being emulated. There is a difference between the Hardwares for sure, but not it's not enough.

you never know. nintendo always has somethng up their sleeves. I dont know too much about the emulation process, but i thinkthey can find a way to make the DC games run like gamecube or N64 games by playing with the software codes. again, I dont know too much about it, but I figure since the Wii can run gamecube games by swithcing to a "gamecube mode," the programmers can make it seem that, when downloading and running a DC game, they can trick the Wii into thinking its a Gamecube game. If that could be done, the only tricky part would be emulating the controls (but i'm sure they can work something out.) Chop chop nintendo! I wanna play Jet Grind Radio! lol

The Wii can run in GCN mode because it's almost identical... the CPU and GPU are both based on the GCN's, just sped up and given some enhancements. The Dreamcast hardware, on the other hand, is considerably different, so software emulation is the only way to go.

What software emulation basically does is recreate the original hardware "virtually". The game is then run on this non-physical system.

well i think is possible with a HD, the wii don't necesary have to emulate the dreamcast game, why they don't use the engine that makes the Gc games playable, and porting the DC game around it, like the Final fantasy game in wiiware

JuarN18

"Possible with a HD"? Huh?
The Gamecube is hardware emulated, not software emulated.
The Dreamcast can only be software emulated and it's to hardware demanding.

Stop making these pointless threads. The Wii is not powerful enough to emulate the Dreamcast, nuff said!

well i think is possible with a HD, the wii don't necesary have to emulate the dreamcast game, why they don't use the engine that makes the Gc games playable, and porting the DC game around it, like the Final fantasy game in wiiware

JuarN18

There isn't one engine for every Wii or Dreamcast game. Different games use different engines... many use a propriatary one. In order to port a game, that engine must be rewritten for the new hardware.

The Wii isn't powerful enough to emulate DC games and doesn't have the space to hold one game. Why is this even a discussion?

"I want sonic adventure 1 and 2"

You do realize that both those games are available for mega-cheap on the GC with extra content, right?

Crazy Taxi!!!!!!!!!!!big_boy_down23

my friend had that game, never played it though. i think it would be cool if they added another system, not sure about the 1200 points part thouigh.

Dreamcast games are huge. One game wouldn't even fit on the Wii's internal flash memory. We need a hard drive. I have no clue why people keep asking this question...

I hope.. i would buy Nights.. i would like to se how the original worked.

Nights was a Saturn game.

Rocky32189

HAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!

all i'm saying is,if we can download this:

i don't see any problem with this:

all the wii needs is a hard drive.

the dreamcast games not necesary have to being emulated , they can run with the wii's hardware like final fantasy.

[QUOTE="elfraydoh"]If a bunch of script kiddies can get a very shaky emulator of Saturn and Dreamcast working, then I'm pretty sure people who do it on a professional level can pull it off.Arnalion

Lol, do you realize that a computer is way more powerful than a Wii? The Wii is to weak to emulate the Dreamcast.
Software emulating is just to hardware demanding.

Note: The Gamecube is hardware emulated.

Plus, the Wii is a computer, get your facts plz.

[QUOTE="Arnalion"]

[QUOTE="elfraydoh"]If a bunch of script kiddies can get a very shaky emulator of Saturn and Dreamcast working, then I'm pretty sure people who do it on a professional level can pull it off.BET8390

Lol, do you realize that a computer is way more powerful than a Wii? The Wii is to weak to emulate the Dreamcast.
Software emulating is just to hardware demanding.

Note: The Gamecube is hardware emulated.

Plus, the Wii is a computer, get your facts plz.

The dreamcast was on par with the gamecube and ps2. Try emulating one of those systems and you'll see why the dreamcast won't come to VC.Kuhu