DSi owners, what to expect from e3?

for the DSi, i expect Ninty to brag about sales, how the DSi is outselling the lite 6 to 1, and to annouce a lot of DSi-enhanced DS games and confirm Spirit Tracks to be enhanced in some way.

I also hope they go into greater detail on the DSi only game cards and hope they launch DSi only game cards this fall or soon with a killer casual app and a nice core IP, like a Brain Age 3 and New Super Mario Bros 2.

i really want them to buff the memory size on the DSi only cards. Current DS cards come in as high as 256MB, but i'd love to see them bump it to 512MB or 2GB somewhere around there.

perhaps the DSi game cards could be SDHC cards (nintendo confirmed there will be DSi game cards but never said if they will be different) however unless nintendo put in some anti-piracy solution into games on SD cards then i can't see this happening, the reason why i think it'd be cool is 4GB SDHC cards are like, $10. we could have 4GB games! prolly not happening but hey, there's a slim chance

What do you DSi owners want for the DSi from e3? (I most of all want DQIX, M&L3 release dates)

I want them to explain to users that the DSi is the same thing as the DS and DSLite only with a different operating system and online store.

After they do that they can go crazy with whatever else they want

I'd like to hear news and release dates for some quality games/apps for DSiWARE outside Japan. So far the releases have been pretty lame, though I do like Dr.Mario that was released today in Europe (and I assume the same goes for US?). And if Nintendo were to release some old GBA titles for DSiWARE, I'd be very happy!

I want them to explain to users that the DSi is the same thing as the DS and DSLite only with a different operating system and online store.

After they do that they can go crazy with whatever else they want

Jaysonguy

i want them to explain to you that DS games from now on can have DSi enhancements, DSi features and to explain to you that there will be DSi only game cards to be sold at retail and to give you and i a closer look at what makes these DSi only game cards and DSi only games different from DS games

(you know the funny thing is i didn't mention graphics, etc. i just mentioned realsitic speculation. Like whether or not the DSi game cards will increase storage size. I think your statement is aimed at the many DSi discussions we've had.)

i am a DSi user, and i want more Dsiware games, news on DSi only games, and news on future DSi enhanced games. You seem to have something against this. I just want some info on games for mah handheld. You're not a DSi user, i can understand why you wouldn't care.

So to you X amount of DS announcements is nice, but to me X amount of DS announcements is nice, +1 with DSi announcements

for the DSi, i expect Ninty to brag about sales, how the DSi is outselling the lite 6 to 1, and to annouce a lot of DSi-enhanced DS games and confirm Spirit Tracks to be enhanced in some way.

I also hope they go into greater detail on the DSi only game cards and hope they launch DSi only game cards this fall or soon with a killer casual app and a nice core IP, like a Brain Age 3 and New Super Mario Bros 2.

i really want them to buff the memory size on the DSi only cards. Current DS cards come in as high as 256MB, but i'd love to see them bump it to 512MB or 2GB somewhere around there.

perhaps the DSi game cards could be SDHC cards (nintendo confirmed there will be DSi game cards but never said if they will be different) however unless nintendo put in some anti-piracy solution into games on SD cards then i can't see this happening, the reason why i think it'd be cool is 4GB SDHC cards are like, $10. we could have 4GB games! prolly not happening but hey, there's a slim chance

What do you DSi owners want for the DSi from e3? (I most of all want DQIX, M&L3 release dates)

darth-pyschosis

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for the DSi, i expect Ninty to brag about sales, how the DSi is outselling the lite 6 to 1, and to annouce a lot of DSi-enhanced DS games and confirm Spirit Tracks to be enhanced in some way.

I also hope they go into greater detail on the DSi only game cards and hope they launch DSi only game cards this fall or soon with a killer casual app and a nice core IP, like a Brain Age 3 and New Super Mario Bros 2.

i really want them to buff the memory size on the DSi only cards. Current DS cards come in as high as 256MB, but i'd love to see them bump it to 512MB or 2GB somewhere around there.

perhaps the DSi game cards could be SDHC cards (nintendo confirmed there will be DSi game cards but never said if they will be different) however unless nintendo put in some anti-piracy solution into games on SD cards then i can't see this happening, the reason why i think it'd be cool is 4GB SDHC cards are like, $10. we could have 4GB games! prolly not happening but hey, there's a slim chance

What do you DSi owners want for the DSi from e3? (I most of all want DQIX, M&L3 release dates)

nicktarist

I'm hopeful for a Mother 3 ds release since playing it on my computer was kind of inconvient

Earthbound ds (probably won't happen)

Zack and Wiki ds (a wii sequal would be cool to though)

Metroid ds

I don't exactly expect any of these to come true but it would be awesome if any of them did

I want them to explain to users that the DSi is the same thing as the DS and DSLite only with a different operating system and online store.

Jaysonguy

I expect them to have a Virtual Handheld announced for it, a Virtual Console with home console games, a Super Smash Brothers DS, enhance the calculator so that it can use graphs, have an update that turns it into a phone, a Pikmin DS, enhance the Internet so that it is 99G and can play videos, and I expect wifi enabled Pictochat.

Now, realistically, a couple of enhanced games, maybe something like the Nintendo channel on Wii, or maybe a demo feature.

I hope for a new Drawn to life but that's unlikely. Brain age three and hopfully a new Animal Crossing.

I can't wait for new games that will be catering towards the dsi

I hope they unveil some trailer for a video service like the wii no ma but it will probably be changed a little to meet western standards.

and the guy with the dsi question, the ds/dsi can only play and chat with people only thirty feet away unless you are playing a wi fi mode then you can play with people around the world, so make sure the game you are playing has a blue dot on the corner of the case that says wifi.

edit: also if you want to chat go to dsicade.com on your dsi browser and you can chat there with people instead of picto chat, until Nintendo makes it wifi(probably never)

I think we'll see a "Virtual Handheld" and the first look at some DSi enhanced games.

I want them to explain to users that the DSi is the same thing as the DS and DSLite only with a different operating system and online store.

After they do that they can go crazy with whatever else they want

Jaysonguy

Perhaps you should inform yourself first before lamenting the ignorance of others. The internal specs of the DSi are double that of the DS/Lite, it's not just an OS upgrade.

a unvieling of a app shop for the dsi

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I want them to explain to users that the DSi is the same thing as the DS and DSLite only with a different operating system and online store.

After they do that they can go crazy with whatever else they want

Master_Hermes

dont bother. he has told me the OS, you know the sliding menu in the DSi, uses 67Mhz CPU speed, and 12MB RAM. i doubt that. i doubt it takes all the power used to make the best looking game on DS times 2 or 3 to run a sliding menu

he has no proof of how much power the OS needs at all times, the camera/web doesn't use it while you're playing a game, they are software that is closed when you back out of it.

a bigger point is that no one can seem to discover if the DSi still has 656kb of VRAM as the lite, or more. it is reasonable to think they increased it to 1MB or 2MB, as they doubled or quadrupled all other hardware features

even if its 656kb, i think we could see better stuff from DSi games.

Perhaps you should inform yourself first before lamenting the ignorance of others. The internal specs of the DSi are double that of the DS/Lite, it's not just an OS upgrade.

[QUOTE="Master_Hermes"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

I want them to explain to users that the DSi is the same thing as the DS and DSLite only with a different operating system and online store.

After they do that they can go crazy with whatever else they want

darth-pyschosis

dont bother. he has told me the OS, you know the sliding menu in the DSi, uses 67Mhz CPU speed, and 12MB RAM. i doubt that. i doubt it takes all the power used to make the best looking game on DS times 2 or 3 to run a sliding menu

he has no proof of how much power the OS needs at all times, the camera/web doesn't use it while you're playing a game, they are software that is closed when you back out of it.

a bigger point is that no one can seem to discover if the DSi still has 656kb of VRAM as the lite, or more. it is reasonable to think they increased it to 1MB or 2MB, as they doubled or quadrupled all other hardware features

even if its 656kb, i think we could see better stuff from DSi games.

Perhaps you should inform yourself first before lamenting the ignorance of others. The internal specs of the DSi are double that of the DS/Lite, it's not just an OS upgrade.

You should inform yourself as well. After doing a little research, it seems that Nintendo only upgraded what was absolutely necessary- To improve the web browser, you need more RAM. To use the camera in-game, you need a better processor. To use the merge effect for the DSi camera, you need an Alpha Channel effect. Nintendo has told you what they have done and so far they have stayed true to their word.

P.S. If the DSi had 2MB of VRAM, it would have PSP level graphics.

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I would like to see more info on Spirit Tracks and a US release date for KH358/2 Days(Three-Five-Eight Days Over 2). After seeing this, I can say that this will be one of the best games for the DS- if not the best.

This hate is insane. I love my DSi.

I want to hear more about Spirit Tracks and Scribblenaughts, and maybe some games that actually utilizes the DSi's capabilities.

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="Master_Hermes"]

Perhaps you should inform yourself first before lamenting the ignorance of others. The internal specs of the DSi are double that of the DS/Lite, it's not just an OS upgrade.

fail_baby

You should inform yourself as well. After doing a little research, it seems that Nintendo only upgraded what was absolutely necessary- To improve the web browser, you need more RAM. To use the camera in-game, you need a better processor. To use the merge effect for the DSi camera, you need an Alpha Channel effect. Nintendo has told you what they have done and so far they have stayed true to their word.

P.S. If the DSi had 2MB of VRAM, it would have PSP level graphics.

That may be the reason they had to upgrade but show me where they've said that the extra horsepower cannot ever be used for games? The camera and web browser aren't running in the background when you're playing games so it should be more than simple to divert those resources to games when those programs are closed. I've more than informed myself, I said the DSi has double the specs of the DS/Lite, which you just confirmed for me, thanks for the help. Also, the DS will need far more than extra RAM and CPU speed to get PSP level graphics, RAM and processor speed aren't the only thing that make good graphics good. If things were that easy then the Wii would have more games that look on par with the original Xbox, but that isn't the case is it?

[QUOTE="fail_baby"]

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

Master_Hermes

You should inform yourself as well. After doing a little research, it seems that Nintendo only upgraded what was absolutely necessary- To improve the web browser, you need more RAM. To use the camera in-game, you need a better processor. To use the merge effect for the DSi camera, you need an Alpha Channel effect. Nintendo has told you what they have done and so far they have stayed true to their word.

P.S. If the DSi had 2MB of VRAM, it would have PSP level graphics.

That may be the reason they had to upgrade but show me where they've said that the extra horsepower cannot ever be used for games? The camera and web browser aren't running in the background when you're playing games so it should be more than simple to divert those resources to games when those programs aren't running. I've more than informed myself, I said the DSi has double the specs of the DS/Lite, which you just confirmed for me, thanks for the help. Also, the DS will need far more than extra RAM and CPU speed to get PSP level graphics, RAM and processor speed aren't the only thing that make good graphics good. If things were that easy then the Wii would have more games that look on par with the original Xbox, but that isn't the case is it?

VRAM is what the textures, polygons, and other stuff that's rendered on-screen is processed. Without more of it, the DSi couldn't use better graphics. It can, I'm assuming, use better animations or amlmost anything that involves computations.

P.S. When an image is rendered at a lower resolution, less power is needed to render it. With the DSi's current specs, and 2MB of VRAM, the DSi would be capable of rendering almost PSP level graphics(with the exception of texture filtration and any other effect that needs to be integrated into the system's chipset).

P.S.S. The Wii doesn't have very much games with good graphics because devs are lazy. Look at Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearer, The Conduit, and Super Smash Bros. BRAWL. That's what the Wii's graphics look like when devs put effort into their games.

DSi owners should not expect anything from E3.

[QUOTE="Master_Hermes"]

[QUOTE="fail_baby"]

You should inform yourself as well. After doing a little research, it seems that Nintendo only upgraded what was absolutely necessary- To improve the web browser, you need more RAM. To use the camera in-game, you need a better processor. To use the merge effect for the DSi camera, you need an Alpha Channel effect. Nintendo has told you what they have done and so far they have stayed true to their word.

P.S. If the DSi had 2MB of VRAM, it would have PSP level graphics.

fail_baby

That may be the reason they had to upgrade but show me where they've said that the extra horsepower cannot ever be used for games? The camera and web browser aren't running in the background when you're playing games so it should be more than simple to divert those resources to games when those programs aren't running. I've more than informed myself, I said the DSi has double the specs of the DS/Lite, which you just confirmed for me, thanks for the help. Also, the DS will need far more than extra RAM and CPU speed to get PSP level graphics, RAM and processor speed aren't the only thing that make good graphics good. If things were that easy then the Wii would have more games that look on par with the original Xbox, but that isn't the case is it?

VRAM is what the textures, polygons, and other stuff that's rendered on-screen is processed. Without more of it, the DSi couldn't use better graphics. It can, I'm assuming, use better animations or amlmost anything that involves computations.

P.S. When an image is rendered at a lower resolution, less power is needed to render it. With the DSi's current specs, and 2MB of VRAM, the DSi would be capable of rendering almost PSP level graphics(with the exception of texture filtration and any other effect that needs to be integrated into the system's chipset).

P.S.S. The Wii doesn't have very much games with good graphics because devs are lazy. Look at Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearer, The Conduit, and Super Smash Bros. BRAWL. That's what the Wii's graphics look like when devs put effort into their games.

i thought PSP had 4MB VRAM? the original PSP not the 3000 series which has slightly better hardware

and how did i need to be informed? you said everything i said already. i said it may have 656kb VRAM still, it could have more. and like you said without more VRAM it can improve animations, perhaps also AI, maybe smoothing 3D Models? (could it im not sure), quicker load times. its possible, they did the same thing with the GBC, its not like Nintendo wouldn't do it

and to the person saying DSi owners shouldn't expect much from e3, nothing may happen there for us,... but

if Nintendo doesn't have some good plans for DSi, whatever they may be, perhaps Zelda enhanced, new DSi only games, etc, Nintendo has big things coming for DSi, or else Rhythm Heaven would say "plays on Nintendo DS" on its commercial, not "Plays on Nintendo DSi" (Just like GTA has separate DS and DSi logos)

im pretty sure every major Nintendo game from this point on , Zelda, any new brain ages, any new mario bros, will all be DSi enhanced at least

[QUOTE="fail_baby"]

[QUOTE="Master_Hermes"]

That may be the reason they had to upgrade but show me where they've said that the extra horsepower cannot ever be used for games? The camera and web browser aren't running in the background when you're playing games so it should be more than simple to divert those resources to games when those programs aren't running. I've more than informed myself, I said the DSi has double the specs of the DS/Lite, which you just confirmed for me, thanks for the help. Also, the DS will need far more than extra RAM and CPU speed to get PSP level graphics, RAM and processor speed aren't the only thing that make good graphics good. If things were that easy then the Wii would have more games that look on par with the original Xbox, but that isn't the case is it?

darth-pyschosis

VRAM is what the textures, polygons, and other stuff that's rendered on-screen is processed. Without more of it, the DSi couldn't use better graphics. It can, I'm assuming, use better animations or amlmost anything that involves computations.

P.S. When an image is rendered at a lower resolution, less power is needed to render it. With the DSi's current specs, and 2MB of VRAM, the DSi would be capable of rendering almost PSP level graphics(with the exception of texture filtration and any other effect that needs to be integrated into the system's chipset).

P.S.S. The Wii doesn't have very much games with good graphics because devs are lazy. Look at Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearer, The Conduit, and Super Smash Bros. BRAWL. That's what the Wii's graphics look like when devs put effort into their games.

i thought PSP had 4MB VRAM? the original PSP not the 3000 series which has slightly better hardware

and how did i need to be informed? you said everything i said already. i said it may have 656kb VRAM still, it could have more. and like you said without more VRAM it can improve animations, perhaps also AI, maybe smoothing 3D Models? (could it im not sure), quicker load times. its possible, they did the same thing with the GBC, its not like Nintendo wouldn't do it.

Judging by your posts, you are repeating what you hear(technically what you read) and do not know what it all means yourself.

P.S. Just so you know, VRAM is expensive. You don't upgrade it unless absolutely necessary. The case in which it is necessary being the conception and production of a system for a new generation.

P.S.S. The PSP has 2MB of VRAMI just checked again.

P.S.S.S. You are still somewhat unaware of what these hardware upgrades are capable of. I will not inform you unless I can find a way how I can benefit from doing so.

GB, GBC, GBA and Gamegear games announced for DSi shop.

I want Ninty to announce a Virtual Handheld for GB/GBC/GBA games. A couple new 1st Party titles would be nice. More info on Spirit Tracks.

Hopefully they've come to their senses and they are going to get rid of FCs. But that will probably not happen. :(

As for new games, I'd like to see: Super Smash Bros. DS, Pikmin DS, a new Metroid, and maybesomething completely new.

For already announced games: DSi enhanced Mario and Luigi (!!!) and release date for that, release date for Spirit Tracks (and hopefully more info), and some more info about Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days.

I just hope they come out with more games with brand name characters (mario, yoshi, wario, luigi, princess peach, samus, fox....

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="fail_baby"]

VRAM is what the textures, polygons, and other stuff that's rendered on-screen is processed. Without more of it, the DSi couldn't use better graphics. It can, I'm assuming, use better animations or amlmost anything that involves computations.

P.S. When an image is rendered at a lower resolution, less power is needed to render it. With the DSi's current specs, and 2MB of VRAM, the DSi would be capable of rendering almost PSP level graphics(with the exception of texture filtration and any other effect that needs to be integrated into the system's chipset).

P.S.S. The Wii doesn't have very much games with good graphics because devs are lazy. Look at Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearer, The Conduit, and Super Smash Bros. BRAWL. That's what the Wii's graphics look like when devs put effort into their games.

fail_baby

i thought PSP had 4MB VRAM? the original PSP not the 3000 series which has slightly better hardware

and how did i need to be informed? you said everything i said already. i said it may have 656kb VRAM still, it could have more. and like you said without more VRAM it can improve animations, perhaps also AI, maybe smoothing 3D Models? (could it im not sure), quicker load times. its possible, they did the same thing with the GBC, its not like Nintendo wouldn't do it.

Judging by your posts, you are repeating what you hear(technically what you read) and do not know what it all means yourself.

P.S. Just so you know, VRAM is expensive. You don't upgrade it unless absolutely necessary. The case in which it is necessary being the conception and production of a system for a new generation.

P.S.S. The PSP has 2MB of VRAMI just checked again.

P.S.S.S. You are still somewhat unaware of what these hardware upgrades are capable of. I will not inform you unless I can find a way how I can benefit from doing so.

so don't act like i need you to inform me, i'd rather take my info from other places or personal experiences. I'm not making predictions or saying things are true, i'm guessing and wondering what my newconsole can do and what i'd want from it.

DSi definetly already has quicker load times, i've compared GTA and Mario Kart load times on lite and DSi and the DSi is a bit faster.

i mistoke PSP's 4MB of DRAM for 4MB VRAM, but yes it has 2MB VRAM.

[QUOTE="fail_baby"]

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

i thought PSP had 4MB VRAM? the original PSP not the 3000 series which has slightly better hardware

and how did i need to be informed? you said everything i said already. i said it may have 656kb VRAM still, it could have more. and like you said without more VRAM it can improve animations, perhaps also AI, maybe smoothing 3D Models? (could it im not sure), quicker load times. its possible, they did the same thing with the GBC, its not like Nintendo wouldn't do it. darth-pyschosis

Judging by your posts, you are repeating what you hear(technically what you read) and do not know what it all means yourself.

P.S. Just so you know, VRAM is expensive. You don't upgrade it unless absolutely necessary. The case in which it is necessary being the conception and production of a system for a new generation.

P.S.S. The PSP has 2MB of VRAMI just checked again.

P.S.S.S. You are still somewhat unaware of what these hardware upgrades are capable of. I will not inform you unless I can find a way how I can benefit from doing so.

so don't act like i need you to inform me, i'd rather take my info from other places or personal experiences. I'm not making predictions or saying things are true, i'm guessing and wondering what my newconsole can do and what i'd want from it.

DSi definetly already has quicker load times, i've compared GTA and Mario Kart load times on lite and DSi and the DSi is a bit faster.

i mistoke PSP's 4MB of DRAM for 4MB VRAM, but yes it has 2MB VRAM.

Spirit Tracks to have DSi only features.

Virtual Console (To be official confirmed, with date when it would come out).

Some other stuff too.

[QUOTE="fail_baby"]

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

i thought PSP had 4MB VRAM? the original PSP not the 3000 series which has slightly better hardware

and how did i need to be informed? you said everything i said already. i said it may have 656kb VRAM still, it could have more. and like you said without more VRAM it can improve animations, perhaps also AI, maybe smoothing 3D Models? (could it im not sure), quicker load times. its possible, they did the same thing with the GBC, its not like Nintendo wouldn't do it. darth-pyschosis

Judging by your posts, you are repeating what you hear(technically what you read) and do not know what it all means yourself.

P.S. Just so you know, VRAM is expensive. You don't upgrade it unless absolutely necessary. The case in which it is necessary being the conception and production of a system for a new generation.

P.S.S. The PSP has 2MB of VRAMI just checked again.

P.S.S.S. You are still somewhat unaware of what these hardware upgrades are capable of. I will not inform you unless I can find a way how I can benefit from doing so.

so don't act like i need you to inform me, i'd rather take my info from other places or personal experiences. I'm not making predictions or saying things are true, i'm guessing and wondering what my newconsole can do and what i'd want from it.

DSi definetly already has quicker load times, i've compared GTA and Mario Kart load times on lite and DSi and the DSi is a bit faster.

i mistoke PSP's 4MB of DRAM for 4MB VRAM, but yes it has 2MB VRAM.

I'm not trying to inform you about anything. Actually, it's the opposite.

I want a sequel to Elite Beat Agents with downloadable songs from the DSi Shop.

Downloadable Content for games, and an app for the DSi that shows previews and gives you demos that Nintendo Posts. Heck yeah!

Downloadable Content for games, and an app for the DSi that shows previews and gives you demos that Nintendo Posts. Heck yeah!

Maledizione

I really, really want a new Mario game... but NOT Super Mario Bros 2 or a Mario and Luigi games...

I want it to be like Super Mario 64 DS. Like a sequal to it or similar to it.

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

[QUOTE="fail_baby"]

Judging by your posts, you are repeating what you hear(technically what you read) and do not know what it all means yourself.

P.S. Just so you know, VRAM is expensive. You don't upgrade it unless absolutely necessary. The case in which it is necessary being the conception and production of a system for a new generation.

P.S.S. The PSP has 2MB of VRAMI just checked again.

P.S.S.S. You are still somewhat unaware of what these hardware upgrades are capable of. I will not inform you unless I can find a way how I can benefit from doing so.

FILIPINOMAZTER

so don't act like i need you to inform me, i'd rather take my info from other places or personal experiences. I'm not making predictions or saying things are true, i'm guessing and wondering what my newconsole can do and what i'd want from it.

DSi definetly already has quicker load times, i've compared GTA and Mario Kart load times on lite and DSi and the DSi is a bit faster.

i mistoke PSP's 4MB of DRAM for 4MB VRAM, but yes it has 2MB VRAM.

loading from menu. you click the games icon, it loads the game. even Gamespot's DSi hands on showed the differences. it isn't a great difference, but hey its nice