DSi=Successful Gameboy Micro

Back when theGBA was on its way out Nintendo brought out the Micro. The Micro is one of the most overlooked amazing handhelds. If DSi sales would have bombed do you think Ninetendo would have jumped ship as quickly as they did with the Micro and start serious work on OR unveil the next handheld ? I think they probably would have tried to squeeze the life out of it being as its more expensive than the Micro was. I really liked the Micro and since my DS has a broken hinge I'd rather use my Micro for GBA games than put a bigger strain on my DS. And the Micro looks cooler to play in class. Opinions ?

My opinion is that Nintendo stops making so many handhelds. Honestly the micro was a horrible idea..

The only problem in your analogy is because the gameboy micro didn't offer anything new besides the new look and the mp3 player, the DSi on the other hand... But your point is still valid. But seriously, if the DSi sales failed, they surely would stop supporting the DSi much, but i don't think they would jump to a next handheld so quickly. Well, back on the time of the GBA, there was a bigger threat starting (you guys know what i'm talking about, but please, don't mention it or it will turn into system wars material), which pushed Ninty to forget the GBA development and keep going on the DS brand. So, i think they only would launch a new handheld (even if the DSi never existed) if there is another threat that put the DS sales on danger or the DS sales drop considerably.meiaman

Suprisingly no. I took it on a road trip recently and played Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland on it because I got tired of my DS at that moment in time, and the visuals were still crisp. I didn't have a single problem adjusting to a significantly smaller screen or the control layout. The brightness is really good on it but having it at max kills it quick and I"ve long since lost my home charger (I had a gba car one with a micro/lite extender on the road trip) so I don't play it much at home and I'm having trouble tracking down a charger. If I continue to revisit my missed gba classics I'll play them on my Micro. Its there to use after all. I imagine Advance Wars and LoZ A Link to the Past would be really fun on it.

Remember that the Micro came out when the DS did. The DSi is a variant of the existing DS, removing some functionality but adding some as well, and isn't competing against a product successor.MAILER_DAEMON

[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]Remember that the Micro came out when the DS did. The DSi is a variant of the existing DS, removing some functionality but adding some as well, and isn't competing against a product successor.Next-Gen-Tec

I had always wanted the Micro before I had my DS. It looked so cool. I never did find one, though, because I was living in Uganda at the time. Then I got my DS and was forever happy, when I moved to Canada, that is.

I never saw the point of the Micro :lol: But I must admit, it is very cute :P Well, the DSi is really successful since my DSi just got stolen :( No one here steals DSs, normally iPods, PSPs and cellphones but not DSs.Kenny789

Well the DSi is much more comparable to the Game Boy Color than the Game Boy Micro.

GBC was the only 3rd revision that added new games, new hardware and the DSi is the first to not just add new games, new hardware, but new multimedia features

In other words, the DSi is Nintendo catching up to handheld products standards of 2005

[QUOTE="Kenny789"]I never saw the point of the Micro :lol: But I must admit, it is very cute :P Well, the DSi is really successful since my DSi just got stolen :( No one here steals DSs, normally iPods, PSPs and cellphones but not DSs.kaze347

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[QUOTE="Kenny789"]I never saw the point of the Micro :lol: But I must admit, it is very cute :P Well, the DSi is really successful since my DSi just got stolen :( No one here steals DSs, normally iPods, PSPs and cellphones but not DSs.Kenny789

Nintendo even said at E3, their new handheld is done (I still doubt that), but since the DSi is doing so well, they won't announce it for a while.

Also, they actually added stuff with the DSi. The Gameboy Micro was almost a downgrade through my eyes.

[QUOTE="Kenny789"][QUOTE="kaze347"]Lol so its a compliment ?

kaze347

Nintendo even said at E3, their new handheld is done (I still doubt that), but since the DSi is doing so well, they won't announce it for a while.

Also, they actually added stuff with the DSi. The Gameboy Micro was almost a downgrade through my eyes.

awssk8er716

I'm hoping a e3 2010 or Nintendo conference 2010 reveal for that

you can bet Nintendo will focus their next handheld not so much on competing with sony but with Apple

as sony will do the same

mobile devices are evolving a lot

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Nintendo even said at E3, their new handheld is done (I still doubt that), but since the DSi is doing so well, they won't announce it for a while.

Also, they actually added stuff with the DSi. The Gameboy Micro was almost a downgrade through my eyes.

darth-pyschosis

I'm hoping a e3 2010 or Nintendo conference 2010 reveal for that

you can bet Nintendo will focus their next handheld not so much on competing with sony but with Apple

as sony will do the same

mobile devices are evolving a lot

I really hope they don't announce it until 2011. I don't want the DS to die out.:cry: I think it's the console (Besides the PC) that has the most racked up hours for me.

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Nintendo even said at E3, their new handheld is done (I still doubt that), but since the DSi is doing so well, they won't announce it for a while.

Also, they actually added stuff with the DSi. The Gameboy Micro was almost a downgrade through my eyes.

awssk8er716

I'm hoping a e3 2010 or Nintendo conference 2010 reveal for that

you can bet Nintendo will focus their next handheld not so much on competing with sony but with Apple

as sony will do the same

mobile devices are evolving a lot

I really hope they don't announce it until 2011. I don't want the DS to die out.:cry: I think it's the console (Besides the PC) that has the most racked up hours for me.

I think we'll be seeing a new trend in console longevity (spelling might be wrong not sure but I don't care) and that applies to home consoles and handhelds, they can do so much more with these pieces of hardware now so I think the DSi will be around at least until 2011. At least.

I think we'll be seeing a new trend in console longevity (spelling might be wrong not sure but I don't care) and that applies to home consoles and handhelds, they can do so much more with these pieces of hardware now so I think the DSi will be around at least until 2011. At least.

kaze347

plz, with mobile phones and PMPs breaking 1Ghz with their CPUs and more and more mobile devices having more respectable mobile games, i sincerely hope i am not playing on DS 7 years after release, i've been playing DS for years now and i think its winding down

Nintendo needs to take on mobile devices having big apps stores, more DD, better hardware, better battery consumption, etc. just without the creepy Palm Pre girl. Leave her out of next generation.

I was blown away when I played RE4 on the iPhone. After getting used to the controls, and the fact that the zombie count was much lower (as for games iPhone CPU is underclocked to 200mhz for some reason apple does that) i really enjoyed playing it, even with the virtual buttons on screen

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I think we'll be seeing a new trend in console longevity (spelling might be wrong not sure but I don't care) and that applies to home consoles and handhelds, they can do so much more with these pieces of hardware now so I think the DSi will be around at least until 2011. At least.

kaze347

plz, with mobile phones and PMPs breaking 1Ghz with their CPUs and more and more mobile devices having more respectable mobile games, i sincerely hope i am not playing on DS 7 years after release, i've been playing DS for years now and i think its winding down

^this, is stupid

Nintendo needs to take on mobile devices having big apps stores, more DD, better hardware, better battery consumption, etc. just without the creepy Palm Pre girl. Leave her out of next generation.

^this, never do this again please. Nintendo is not a mobile phone company. Do not compare them to one.

I was blown away when I played RE4 on the iPhone. After getting used to the controls, and the fact that the zombie count was much lower (as for games iPhone CPU is underclocked to 200mhz for some reason apple does that) i really enjoyed playing it, even with the virtual buttons on screen

^buttons don't belong on a screen, they just don't. In your defense I have not played RE4 on the iPhone. But I don't plan on it either as I will not buy an iPhone.

What? Can you actually say what i said was stupid? i suppose you can. Well, so you want to be playing games using a crappy CPU in 2011 that can't even outpace the N64 when the newest blackberry's are using 1.2Ghz CPUs?

2nd. Why can't i compare marketing of Palm and Nintendo? There is nothing to compare really i just said i hope they have no Palm Pre-like ads coz those are terrible, so i don't see why you said i shouldn't, i was simply saying Palm Pre marketing is bad and hope nintendo never makes that bad of marketing (well the Mario Kart Wii commercials with rednecks were pretty d*** bad)

Yes, real buttons are always better, perhaps something that offers both touch buttons and normal buttons. If you have an Iphone near you anytime (or iPod Touch) you should try one of your friends if they have Katamari, SimCity, MGS or RE4. they're fun. (IMO)

There are mobile phones in peoples pockets with as much system RAM as a Playstation 3, god forbid i want nintendo to actually make a handheld up to date with mobile standards in 2009 or 2011

My opinion is that Nintendo stops making so many handhelds. Honestly the micro was a horrible idea..

SagaRain

yeah it was a horrible idea. the DSi however is not :P

@ darth-psychosis

I hate people who think that phones have a chance in the gaming market. They don't. Phones aren't meant for games, they're meant for calling. Even if they do have games, they're not like games on handhelds. Most games on phones are arcade style games. Of course some handhelds have arcade games, but that's all the phones ever get. Games that are fun in short bursts but not worth taht much time. I do like my Ipod, and all of the games I have on it, but it doesn't desrve to be looked at by gaming sites and companies as a real competitor in the gaming market.

On topic: Heh, I didn't really think that the gameboy micro or the DS where all that impressive. I like the clampshell design of the gameboy advanced sp and wasn't about to drop a hundred and something dollars for something that could get it's screen scrathed so easily. The DSi is the same story, I don't see that much of an imporvment that I need to buy it.

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Nintendo even said at E3, their new handheld is done (I still doubt that), but since the DSi is doing so well, they won't announce it for a while.

Also, they actually added stuff with the DSi. The Gameboy Micro was almost a downgrade through my eyes.

darth-pyschosis

I'm hoping a e3 2010 or Nintendo conference 2010 reveal for that

you can bet Nintendo will focus their next handheld not so much on competing with sony but with Apple

as sony will do the same

mobile devices are evolving a lot

This, or the fact that Microsoft has announced a lot of interest in making a handheld. That could be trouble for both sides with the inclusion of the iPod brand still reaching in to the gaming market. BUT good side is that Microsoft may be so tuned in to Sony and Apple that the real handheld juggernaut it should be watching is in fact Nintendo.

@ darth-psychosis

I hate people who think that phones have a chance in the gaming market. They don't. Phones aren't meant for games, they're meant for calling. Even if they do have games, they're not like games on handhelds. Most games on phones are arcade style games. Of course some handhelds have arcade games, but that's all the phones ever get. Games that are fun in short bursts but not worth taht much time. I do like my Ipod, and all of the games I have on it, but it doesn't desrve to be looked at by gaming sites and companies as a real competitor in the gaming market.

On topic: Heh, I didn't really think that the gameboy micro or the DS where all that impressive. I like the clampshell design of the gameboy advanced sp and wasn't about to drop a hundred and something dollars for something that could get it's screen scrathed so easily. The DSi is the same story, I don't see that much of an imporvment that I need to buy it.

darth_lorenzo

so you hate me?

Well, as i've played some very good games on the iPhone (Hero of Sparta, Katamari, Resident Evil 4, Rolando) mobile games can work very very well. Peggle for example as well. Why shouldn't the iPhone be looked at by gaming sites when Konami would rather make a basic on rails-ish MGS4 for the Apps store instead of porting it to the 360? You see. Konami doesn't want to find a way to make MGS4 on the Xbox BUT will basically make Metal Gear Solid Touch on iPhone with the same story as 4. Yes very different games BUT konami decided to not use their resources for a 360 version, instead making a semi-new ipod version

A lot of games are coming to consoles that were mobile fone games, Final Fantasy IV: The After Years on WiiWare for example, Final Fantasy 13 Agito on PSP and Parasite Eve 3 were all mobile fone games i believe.

But either way you look at it, even if you hate phone gaming, those phones are pushing mobile hardware to amazing new heights and nintendo better keep up with them. I mean if we follow nintendos usual handheld trend the next DS may not even be as powerful as the GameCube in a time near 2011 when mobile phones, and other small mobile devices have the hardware of a netbook with 1Ghz CPU's and 512MB of system RAM, etc.

I certainly hope whatever next nintendo handheld comes out that yes it focuses on software and how the games play but also keeps up to date with mobile hardware to a decent extent. theres no reason why in 2011 the next nintendo handheld can't be more powerful than the Nintendo Wii, honestly. (and that says something very bad about the Wii that some mobile devices are close to passing it hardware-wise)

Phones with PS3 power ? I don't think so. At all.

Phones with PS3 power ? I don't think so. At all.

kaze347

why don't you do some fact checking first

the iPhone has 256MB of system RAM, the 360 and PS3 have 512MB

the Wii has a 729Mhz CPU, the iPhone has a 833Mhz (3GS)

iPod touch has the same specs as the iPhone (will update to 3gs this fall)

so a $230 product being sold at a profit (an insane profit for apple mind you) has a 500Mhz-800Mhz CPU and 256MB system RAM

and the DS has a 67Mhz CPU and 4MB ram

yes, that won't be thousand times more outdated in 2011 than it is now

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Phones with PS3 power ? I don't think so. At all.

why don't you do some fact checking first

the iPhone has 256MB of system RAM, the 360 and PS3 have 512MB

the Wii has a 729Mhz CPU, the iPhone has a 833Mhz (3GS)

iPod touch has the same specs as the iPhone (will update to 3gs this fall)

so a $230 product being sold at a profit (an insane profit for apple mind you) has a 500Mhz-800Mhz CPU and 256MB system RAM

and the DS has a 67Mhz CPU and 4MB ram

yes, that won't be thousand times more outdated in 2011 than it is now

Its funny people are telling me about the DSi's specs

but yes Redonk everything you said is true

but from my experiences using iPhone's fast web browser and some games like RE4 it is leaps and bounds ahead of the DS in terms of performance. (the games are underclocked to 200Mhz)

Yea, though the iPhone 3GS does beat the Wii in some specs (providied the Wii does have a 729Mhz CPU) those numbers, RAM amounts, clock speeds don't determine everything, they should mean that they are better but yes the GameCube's CPU could do pretty much everything the Xbox's CPU could do , even running at nearly 300Mhz slower, so yes numbers don't make everything

And to giga yeti yes believe me i may have been the first person to know the DSi's specs

but unless the video memory is improved it means little for DSi only games, and the longer nintendo takes with making these "DSi only retail" titles they annoucned in feburary this year, the longer they take to make these GBC-esque DSi only games the less likely i think they will

i'd be cool if they made some really compelling DSi games that used all the hardware outside of those that do on DSiware, but i think by the time the DSi is a capable platform on its own with 20 million owners in 2010, that maybe a even more powerful system should be out

i want more hardware improvements in my games, and even though i'd like to see a lot more games use the DSi's 133Mhz CPU, 16MB of RAM, and all that stuff, i'd still rather have it all on even more powerful hardware

something like Nvidia's Tegra is doing wonders for mobile devices battery lifes and performance, i doubt nintendo would use it nex gen but i'd love to see stuff like that in it

@ darth-pyschosis Dsi surpasses the N64, so i dont know what your talking about. Dsi also has double CPU and 4x RAMgiga_yeti

also, i didn't say DSi didn't.

I said DS didn't. its 67Mhz CPU may not pass the N64's CPU, but mere clock speeds don't always tell you the truth, so i could be wrong

all i know is i haven't seen a game like Perfect Dark on the DS, those were near top notch N64 graphics