Everyone Knows Punch Out Isn't A Fighting Game Right?

With the news that the Wii will get a Punch Out title sometime in 2009 a lot of people are excited that we get a fighting game.
To add to the strangeness people actually want this "fighting" game online.

Punch Out isn't a fighter, at all.

It's a game of Simon with a boxing skin put on top of it.

Punch Out works like this. A boxer does a set of attacks and blocks. You remember that pattern and then hit the specific buttons in order to defeat him.

The boxer does the same exact motions over and over just like in Simon the same colors light up.

A boxer will do a high punch left, low punch right, block, and then a tornado spin. He'll do that every single time without deviating.

So you would dodge right, dodge left, maybe take advantage of the block and then place a timely hit at his final attack.

The idea that people want this online even more shocking. If Punch Out got online it would be a disaster. To the point where you'd walk up to Punch Out and ask "what did the bad developers do to you?"

Punch Out is about seeing the same exact sequences repeated over and over and over until you know the exact buttons to press between every action. There is no fighting here.

The overall controls are weak. One high punch with either hand, one low punch with either hand, block, dodge, and star punch. They're simple because you never need to fight in the game. Jordan has already tried to explain how online would kill this game, his idea of a leaderboard is good though.

Having two people flail randomly at each other would be a train wreck.

Everyone who has played punch out knows this.

However, in my humble opinion, if it's a game about characters fighting each other, it's perfectly fine to call it a "fighting game".

Everyone knows that punchout is a puzzle game. But, maybe it's time for punchout to change a little?

Still, I don't understand people's desire for this to be an online game.

I'll be the first to admit I thought it was a standard boxing game. I've never played the original punch out so I had no idea it was about memorizing attacks.Haziqonfire

I'm a little shocked that there are gamers who have not played the original punch-out

who was claiming it was a fighting game? *shrugs*nomadph

How many examples do you want?

Start HERE and and read through then just browse the board from the day it was announced until today?

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I'll be the first to admit I thought it was a standard boxing game. I've never played the original punch out so I had no idea it was about memorizing attacks.goblaa

I'm a little shocked that there are gamers who have not played the original punch-out

I'll be the first to admit I thought it was a standard boxing game. I've never played the original punch out so I had no idea it was about memorizing attacks.Haziqonfire

Oh Haz you have to do yourself a favor and play it.

It's one of the best games from that generation, a complete steal at 5 bucks

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I'll be the first to admit I thought it was a standard boxing game. I've never played the original punch out so I had no idea it was about memorizing attacks.Haziqonfire

I'm a little shocked that there are gamers who have not played the original punch-out

Ah youngins...missing out on all the great klassics.

Ah youngins...missing out on all the great klassics.

goblaa

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Ah youngins...missing out on all the great klassics.

Haziqonfire

And hopefully now, punch-out. Totally available on the VC. :D

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

Ah youngins...missing out on all the great klassics.

goblaa

And hopefully now, punch-out. Totally available on the VC. :D

THEY'RE MAKING A NEW PUNCH OUT? SOURCE!Rimsa_Laded

New punch-out.

Yay for the fact that you played the game already. Any chance you can put in a good word for me and get me a copy?Cesar_Barba

I'll do my best.

Following that logic, Megaman is a Simon game with a platformer skin, since its bosses have predefined patterns, and do not change behavior according to your position, etc.Nachician

Haha, it is somewhat similar in style to most classics games.

1. Learn as much about the boss's attack patterns before you die.

2.Press start to continue.

The Punch-Out!! series is fantastic. I hope the new one is as enjoyable as the last two.

[QUOTE="nomadph"]who was claiming it was a fighting game? *shrugs*Jaysonguy

How many examples do you want?

Start HERE and and read through then just browse the board from the day it was announced until today?

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I'll be the first to admit I thought it was a standard boxing game. I've never played the original punch out so I had no idea it was about memorizing attacks.goblaa

I'm a little shocked that there are gamers who have not played the original punch-out

I didn't get a console til I played Goldeneye at a friends house on his N64 and was like "I NEED one of these"

I believe I was too stupid to feed myself around the time punchout came out

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I'll be the first to admit I thought it was a standard boxing game. I've never played the original punch out so I had no idea it was about memorizing attacks.Haziqonfire

I'm a little shocked that there are gamers who have not played the original punch-out

I'm in the same boat. Sort of.

I was born about the same time as you, but played the NES when I was a child (Metroid was my favourite and Ice Hockey is a blast). I never new what the SNES was, so I completely missed it and moved onto the N64 and PS1. I played the SNES when I was at a friends house like 5-10 years later :lol:.

I didn't even know what game of game Punchout was, until I saw the boxart with boxers on them (anyone else see what I did there? :P ) and I assumed it was a fightiing game.

I'll be the first to admit I thought it was a standard boxing game. I've never played the original punch out so I had no idea it was about memorizing attacks.Haziqonfire

Me either I never played Punch Out! or knew how it really worked. Seriously.

punch-out multiplayer? that's illogicalfunsohng

ive never played the orginal but i do believe its possible from what ive read about it and would be fun but like i said ive never really played it

Admittedly, I never played Punch-Out growing up. I didn't even know what it looked like until a few years ago. I saw it and thought "HOLY CRAP, its that game they played on The Simpsons!" I was, however, very familiar with Super Punch Out. I remember playing it quite alot on our neighbors big tv whenever their neice was over. We never could make it past the fat canadian guy (name escapes me), so whenever I saw Punch Out 1 Little Mac, i had no idea who he was because I was used to the brown/blond one from SPO.

So, a part of me is rather dissapointed I'm not seeing him in this new Punch Out, but hopefully he'll be a playable skin. I can't see how well competitive multiplayer could work, and as much as I love old school game design, if this is a retail game, its going to need some stronger legs than the main gameplay. Punch Out, even by NES and SNES standards, had very simple gameplay mechanics. This is the only game I can think of thats warranted a purchase based on sheer nostalgia for me.

From what you have described it sounds like a fighter to me.

Just because it is simplistic doesn't mean it will be bad.

I could see why people would want to play this online, it wouldn't be like Simon if their are two people playing it.

Everyone whould know thisepic_pets

Well normally i like to prove Jaysonguy that he's wrong, but this time he's not. The Wii is my first console, so i have no clue what Punch Out is. From the pictures i saw i assumed it has to be a "normal" boxing game. Not that i care much baout this game, but the idea of the game sounds interesting. Mb i check it out on the vc, if it has been released in Europe.

I'm in the same boat. Sort of.

I was born about the same time as you, but played the NES when I was a child (Metroid was my favourite and Ice Hockey is a blast). I never new what the SNES was, so I completely missed it and moved onto the N64 and PS1. I played the SNES when I was at a friends house like 5-10 years later :lol:.

I didn't even know what game of game Punchout was, until I saw the boxart with boxers on them (anyone else see what I did there? :P ) and I assumed it was a fightiing game.

Dark_Link142

lol well I downloaded the original last night, its actually really good even by todays standards. I really like it.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]punch-out multiplayer? that's illogicalwebbut

ive never played the orginal but i do believe its possible from what ive read about it and would be fun but like i said ive never really played it

Download the original game on the VC. I agree with funsohng. Multiplayer on Punch-Out would not be the same Punch-Out. I don't want PO to be multiplayer or online.

For me, a fighting game is Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat. Punch-Out is a boxing game so it will be a sport game. Punch-Out is an arcade boxing game.

[QUOTE="Dark_Link142"]

I'm in the same boat. Sort of.

I was born about the same time as you, but played the NES when I was a child (Metroid was my favourite and Ice Hockey is a blast). I never new what the SNES was, so I completely missed it and moved onto the N64 and PS1. I played the SNES when I was at a friends house like 5-10 years later :lol:.

I didn't even know what game of game Punchout was, until I saw the boxart with boxers on them (anyone else see what I did there? :P ) and I assumed it was a fightiing game.

Haziqonfire

lol well I downloaded the original last night, its actually really good even by todays standards. I really like it.

I'm glad that you liked the original. Soda Popinski was my favorite boxer along with Don Flamanco. His drunk dance and laugh are still funny.

I'm not really a fan of Punch Out, so it doesn't matter to me either way. I'm more excited for Beautiful Ocean next year, Endless Ocean is an amazing game and Beautiful Ocean will be an amazing sequel.J_Ford

dude what are you talking about!!

[QUOTE="J_Ford"]I'm not really a fan of Punch Out, so it doesn't matter to me either way. I'm more excited for Beautiful Ocean next year, Endless Ocean is an amazing game and Beautiful Ocean will be an amazing sequel.red_sovereign

dude what are you talking about!!

I agree with Ford. Considering all the twists and turns in Endless Ocean's development cycle and it still turned out that well just goes to show how strong that franchise can be.

If you take the game and build it from the ground up on Wii hardware it can be 10 times better then the original.

[QUOTE="red_sovereign"]

[QUOTE="J_Ford"]I'm not really a fan of Punch Out, so it doesn't matter to me either way. I'm more excited for Beautiful Ocean next year, Endless Ocean is an amazing game and Beautiful Ocean will be an amazing sequel.Jaysonguy

dude what are you talking about!!

I agree with Ford. Considering all the twists and turns in Endless Ocean's development cycle and it still turned out that well just goes to show how strong that franchise can be.

If you take the game and build it from the ground up on Wii hardware it can be 10 times better then the original.

perfect place to discuss endless ocean and successors..in the punch-out thread.

*so what can we expect in the 10x-better-future-title guys??

[QUOTE="nomadph"]who was claiming it was a fighting game? *shrugs*Jaysonguy

How many examples do you want?

Start HERE and and read through then just browse the board from the day it was announced until today?

i checked out that link...nobody claimed it was a "fighting game"...sure they used the word "fight", but they never said it was a "fighting game"...how else would you describe the action that is punching?

they can't say cuddling, because cuddling isn't done through punching...

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="red_sovereign"]

[QUOTE="J_Ford"]I'm not really a fan of Punch Out, so it doesn't matter to me either way. I'm more excited for Beautiful Ocean next year, Endless Ocean is an amazing game and Beautiful Ocean will be an amazing sequel.red_sovereign

dude what are you talking about!!

I agree with Ford. Considering all the twists and turns in Endless Ocean's development cycle and it still turned out that well just goes to show how strong that franchise can be.

If you take the game and build it from the ground up on Wii hardware it can be 10 times better then the original.

perfect place to discuss endless ocean and successors..in the punch-out thread.

*so what can we expect in the 10x-better-future-title guys??

well said red_sovereign, i actually smiled lolx...:)

[QUOTE="red_sovereign"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="red_sovereign"]

[QUOTE="J_Ford"]I'm not really a fan of Punch Out, so it doesn't matter to me either way. I'm more excited for Beautiful Ocean next year, Endless Ocean is an amazing game and Beautiful Ocean will be an amazing sequel.nomadph

dude what are you talking about!!

I agree with Ford. Considering all the twists and turns in Endless Ocean's development cycle and it still turned out that well just goes to show how strong that franchise can be.

If you take the game and build it from the ground up on Wii hardware it can be 10 times better then the original.

perfect place to discuss endless ocean and successors..in the punch-out thread.

*so what can we expect in the 10x-better-future-title guys??

well said red_sovereign, i actually smiled lolx...:)

atleast someone agrees!

Not to pull rank here, but the original Punchout! was a coin-op. Followed by Super Punchout!

Both fantastic sports-themed games for their time. The NES version, although fun, never had the same 'feel' as the coin-op.

The opponents had more character and style than the washed out NES version. Pizza Pasta, Piston Hurricane...names you would never forget if you played it during the era.

[QUOTE="nomadph"][QUOTE="red_sovereign"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="red_sovereign"]

[QUOTE="J_Ford"]I'm not really a fan of Punch Out, so it doesn't matter to me either way. I'm more excited for Beautiful Ocean next year, Endless Ocean is an amazing game and Beautiful Ocean will be an amazing sequel.red_sovereign

dude what are you talking about!!

I agree with Ford. Considering all the twists and turns in Endless Ocean's development cycle and it still turned out that well just goes to show how strong that franchise can be.

If you take the game and build it from the ground up on Wii hardware it can be 10 times better then the original.

perfect place to discuss endless ocean and successors..in the punch-out thread.

*so what can we expect in the 10x-better-future-title guys??

well said red_sovereign, i actually smiled lolx...:)

atleast someone agrees!