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#1 Warship_19
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Im am not a nintendo fan but I know extreme bias when I see it. Every other Site I've checked has given Other M a great Review except for GI along with most nintendo games these days.

Just wondering what you Nintendo fans thought about it.

http://gameinformer.com/games/metroid_other_m/b/wii/archive/2010/08/27/nintendo-s-team-ninja-team-up-robs-metroid-of-its-atmosphere-and-character.aspx

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#2 Jaysonguy
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Destructiod (which is one of the best review sites going) gave it a 6.5

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#3 GabuEx
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I've run statistical analyses of supposed biases in publications' review scores towards or against one console or the other and have never once found evidence of any such bias. I doubt this would be different.

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#4 Warship_19
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Destructiod (which is one of the best review sites going) gave it a 6.5

Jaysonguy

Hmm forgive my mistake. Gamespot and IGN gave it good ones. Thought that was all I needed to know

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I've run statistical analyses of supposed biases in publications' review scores towards or against one console or the other and have never once found evidence of any such bias. I doubt this would be different.

GabuEx
you know that blog of yours? it would come in handy if you posted it here. i have a feeling there will be more bias whining soon. people just can't face the fact that someone didn't like a game as much as they wanted to.
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#6 Zophar87
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GI has always been biased against Nintendo.

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#7 Tri-Enforcer
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I've run statistical analyses of supposed biases in publications' review scores towards or against one console or the other and have never once found evidence of any such bias. I doubt this would be different.

BrunoBRS

you know that blog of yours? it would come in handy if you posted it here. i have a feeling there will be more bias whining soon. people just can't face the fact that someone didn't like a game as much as they wanted to.

LOL and some people can't face the fact that someone enjoyed a game that they didn't like.

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as i say fanboy are everywhere even in media and i have seen reviews from all major companies there always seems 1 guy that seems to gave reviews to one company lower then others i do think GI sold out last gen so i stopped buying and reading them, now do i think they are bias to nintendo how should i know but i don't trust their reviews
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#9 StarFire571
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GI has always been biased against Nintendo.

Zophar87

why did they give nintendos e3 conference an A+, twilight princess a 10, brawl a 9.5, ect

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#10 Zophar87
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why did they give nintendos e3 conference an A+, twilight princess a 10, brawl a 9.5, ect

StarFire571

What's the best way to get attention? Go after an attention grabber.

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#11 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="StarFire571"]

why did they give nintendos e3 conference an A+, twilight princess a 10, brawl a 9.5, ect

Zophar87

What's the best way to get attention? Go after an attention grabber.

What would be the attention grabber?

It's certainly not Metroid and it's barely second tier status with Nintendo

If they wanted attention they'd give one of Nintendo top tier games a low score

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#12 megatroneo
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LMAO at people thinking GI is biased against Nintendo. There is NO evidence for this. Just because one reviewer didn't like Other M doesn't mean the entire publication hates Nintendo.

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#13 Zophar87
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What would be the attention grabber?

It's certainly not Metroid and it's barely second tier status with Nintendo

If they wanted attention they'd give one of Nintendo top tier games a low score

Jaysonguy

I never said talking down about M:OM would get attention. That being said, after looking back I can see where you see that. I'm sorry that I worded it that way. =\

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#14 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

What would be the attention grabber?

It's certainly not Metroid and it's barely second tier status with Nintendo

If they wanted attention they'd give one of Nintendo top tier games a low score

Zophar87

I never said talking down about M:OM would get attention. That being said, after looking back I can see where you see that. I'm sorry that I worded it that way. =\

It's ok

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No, GI is just awful all around.

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#16 elbert_b_23
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[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="StarFire571"]

why did they give nintendos e3 conference an A+, twilight princess a 10, brawl a 9.5, ect

Jaysonguy

What's the best way to get attention? Go after an attention grabber.

What would be the attention grabber?

It's certainly not Metroid and it's barely second tier status with Nintendo

If they wanted attention they'd give one of Nintendo top tier games a low score

i'd love to hear what you believe games are in nintendo teir status nintendo puts a lot into metroid games besides the 64 their has been at least 1 metroid game every gen including handhelds
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[QUOTE="StarFire571"]

why did they give nintendos e3 conference an A+, twilight princess a 10, brawl a 9.5, ect

Zophar87

What's the best way to get attention? Go after an attention grabber.

With that logic it's No Wonder why they Gave Metroid a low Score.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

I've run statistical analyses of supposed biases in publications' review scores towards or against one console or the other and have never once found evidence of any such bias. I doubt this would be different.

Tri-Enforcer

you know that blog of yours? it would come in handy if you posted it here. i have a feeling there will be more bias whining soon. people just can't face the fact that someone didn't like a game as much as they wanted to.

LOL and some people can't face the fact that someone enjoyed a game that they didn't like.

i'm trying to get if this was directed to me or you just quoted me because of what i said.
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#19 Tri-Enforcer
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[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] you know that blog of yours? it would come in handy if you posted it here. i have a feeling there will be more bias whining soon. people just can't face the fact that someone didn't like a game as much as they wanted to.BrunoBRS

LOL and some people can't face the fact that someone enjoyed a game that they didn't like.

i'm trying to get if this was directed to me or you just quoted me because of what i said.

No it wasn't directed at you. I just saying in general. But that is true.

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#20 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

LOL and some people can't face the fact that someone enjoyed a game that they didn't like.

Tri-Enforcer

i'm trying to get if this was directed to me or you just quoted me because of what i said.

No it wasn't directed at you. I just saying in general. But that is true.

it is. conduit threads are proof enough of that :P
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#21 GCwasthebestsys
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Sounds like Nintendo actually kinda handed this game off a kinda-third-party with obvious Nintendo oversight.You make a game that is too much like the perfect shooter in Metroid Prime I and reviewers would knock it for being too much like the Metroid Prime series. Nintendo went in a new direction with basically one of the franchises that has kept it at the top in video games throughout video game history (mario link samus :: father son ghizzost). Going for something new with the king (or should I saw queen) of video-game-shooters and her usual lonely romp around a new planet is obviously going to get mixed reviews from early reviewers no matter how good it is.

this game probably takes more than one play-through to fairly judge i can tell you that much. that is the main problem with most review sites.

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#22 goblaa
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Almost all their nintendo reviews (1st and third party) on both Wii and DS are below 7...so yeah. It's fairly obvious.

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#23 Unkoil666
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GI isn't bias toward Nintendo? Can someone please, explain why the actual published monthly magazine never lists the Wii versions of multi-plat games then? Even IF the Wii versions of those games are inferior, is it not the responsibility of a "game informing" magazine to report on it? I've seen both reviews for games released and previews for upcoming games in the magazine that DON'T list Wii in the "Platforms" section of their detail sidebars and provide no information at all on a Wii version of a game in their articles. They also used to have a tiny paragraph or 2, off to the side of the main article, dedicated to the Wii version of multi-platform games, but they don't do it anymore.

I'm sorry but if you want to be considered a credible source of information in the gaming press, you need to dedicate yourself to ALL aspects of the gaming industry, even IF you consider something "inferior". Outright ignoring the fact and failing to inform people that a certain game is releasing on a particular system or reviewing a version of said game because of their own personal opinion of a specific platform is the damn DEFINITION of "bias".

"The Wii version won't be nearly as good as the HD versions, so we won't bother providing ANY information on it whatsoever.", is NOT an attitude I consider a credible gaming source to have. Report it all or don't report it AT all!

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#24 trugs26
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The website I trust most is Eurogamer. They gave it 8/10, which is quite good. But that's the thing, you usually have a site you go with because they generally share the same opinions as you. GI have their own opinion, and their opinion just happens to think lower of Nintendo games. Just not their style I guess, and others who don't like that style will look to GI for their reviews.

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#25 atc-fanatic
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people that are to easily hurt always cry bias when sum1 doesnt like what they do. look at every cry that ign was bias torwads ps for a long time. saying ign stands for ignorant and owned by ms. this week ign gave the ps3 in a review better ranks than the 360. and all the same people calling ign bias are praising them and licking there boots because they liked what they saw. not every1 likes the same games!! i like alot of games that only got around a 6 review here maybe i just have bad tates who knows.

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Destructiod (which is one of the best review sites going) gave it a 6.5

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lol, Jayson - Destructoid is a joke - They're as 'good' as Kotaku.. meaning they're bad. And Game Informer is crap anyway - It's owned by GameStop, so I automatically hate it.
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#27 Tri-Enforcer
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I think the industry is upset with Nintendo. The Wii and DS are considered technically inferior, but have sold the best out of all other platforms this generation. Third parties gambled and invested in HD. The gaming media hyped up and anticipated the HD era. Along comes the Wii, with it's lack of HD graphics, motion controls, non-dual analog set up, and 'expanded audience' games. It sells like hotcakes, but 3rd parties are unable to get a piece of the pie because they have to play catch up and try to replicate what Nintendo did. Very few succeed, with their 'me too' casual titles and the lack of hardcore titles made 3rd parties timid of releasing such games. It really didn't help when poorly made core titles (mostly ports, but some exclusives) flopped. Indeed that trend has started to change, but it's not enough and it's probably too late for most third parties to benefit from the Wii. MS and Sony lost money because of Nintendo's fast selling platforms and third parties couldn't get a piece of the pie. The gaming media is upset since the Wii doesn't really provide them much to talk about due to their hardcore 'must be HD' audience.

I'm not saying that certain media outlets are biased against Nintendo as a whole, but I do think there are many individuals within those outlets that are. I only consider reviews for games that I'm on the fence about. But if it's a game that has the elements that I like in a game--then no review will change my mind. Other M is one of those games! Day one for me.

Although review scores for Other M all over the place--the content of those reviews are very similar. The likes and dislikes are pretty much all the same with the only difference really being the score. I guess Other M's shortcomings rubbed some reviewers a little harder than others.

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#28 Pikminmaniac
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If they were biased against Nintendo would they give

Punch-Out!!: 9/10

Super Mario Galaxy: 9.75/10

Super Mario Galaxy 2: 9.25/10

New Super Mario Bros. Wii: 9.25/10

Twilight Princess: 10/10

Sin and Punishment 2: 8.75/10

Metrois Prime 3 Corruption: 9.5/10

Super Paper Mario: 9.5/10

Super Smash Bros. Brawl: 9.5/10

Mario Kart Wii: 8.5/10

Almost every one of these scores are well above the critic average.

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If they were biased against Nintendo would they give

Punch-Out!!: 9/10

Super Mario Galaxy: 9.75/10

Super Mario Galaxy 2: 9.25/10

New Super Mario Bros. Wii: 9.25/10

Twilight Princess: 10/10

Sin and Punishment 2: 8.75/10

Metrois Prime 3 Corruption: 9.5/10

Super Paper Mario: 9.5/10

Super Smash Bros. Brawl: 9.5/10

Mario Kart Wii: 8.5/10

Almost every one of these scores are well above the critic average.

Pikminmaniac
silent hill 6.25 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers 5.5 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Reflex 6.5 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 5.5 Tenchu Shadow Assassin 6.5 Mario Super Sluggers 5.5 Let's Tap 5.0 Ready 2 Rumble: Revolution 1.0 The Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon 4.0 Sim City Creator 5.0 all of thses games are under the critic average some 2 or 3 points
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#31 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

If they were biased against Nintendo would they give

Punch-Out!!: 9/10

Super Mario Galaxy: 9.75/10

Super Mario Galaxy 2: 9.25/10

New Super Mario Bros. Wii: 9.25/10

Twilight Princess: 10/10

Sin and Punishment 2: 8.75/10

Metrois Prime 3 Corruption: 9.5/10

Super Paper Mario: 9.5/10

Super Smash Bros. Brawl: 9.5/10

Mario Kart Wii: 8.5/10

Almost every one of these scores are well above the critic average.

elbert_b_23
silent hill 6.25 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers 5.5 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Reflex 6.5 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 5.5 Tenchu Shadow Assassin 6.5 Mario Super Sluggers 5.5 Let's Tap 5.0 Ready 2 Rumble: Revolution 1.0 The Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon 4.0 Sim City Creator 5.0 all of thses games are under the critic average some 2 or 3 points

Most of those are not made by Nintendo though... He is saying GI is biased against NINTENDO, not 3rd party Wii developers.
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#32 elbert_b_23
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@SF_KiLLaMaN bias to nintendo is against the system and all of the games on it and just not as developers
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#33 DraugenCP
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When a site gives a game a grade that is lower than most others, it doesn't mean they're biased.

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#34 ekalbtwin
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GI is as entitled to their opinion just like every one else so their score does not bother me. As a whole I am not a huge fan of the mag, but I have read worse.
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#35 InfinityMugen
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Nintendo fan site gave it a 7.2

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=134390

With the mixed reviews, I don't think this game is going to please everyone. Just because a magazine doesn't tell you things you want to hear, it doesn't automatically mean they're biased.

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Nintendo fan site gave it a 7.2

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=134390

With the mixed reviews, I don't think this game is going to please everyone. Just because a magazine doesn't tell you things you want to hear, it doesn't automatically mean they're biased.

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gonintendo is biased against nintendo, everyone knows it's written by 360 fanboys throwing dirt on nintendo's name.
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#38 elbert_b_23
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

Nintendo fan site gave it a 7.2

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=134390

With the mixed reviews, I don't think this game is going to please everyone. Just because a magazine doesn't tell you things you want to hear, it doesn't automatically mean they're biased.

BrunoBRS
gonintendo is biased against nintendo, everyone knows it's written by 360 fanboys throwing dirt on nintendo's name.

wouldn't surprise me if that was true but i never go there so i don't know
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#39 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

Nintendo fan site gave it a 7.2

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=134390

With the mixed reviews, I don't think this game is going to please everyone. Just because a magazine doesn't tell you things you want to hear, it doesn't automatically mean they're biased.

elbert_b_23
gonintendo is biased against nintendo, everyone knows it's written by 360 fanboys throwing dirt on nintendo's name.

wouldn't surprise me if that was true but i never go there so i don't know

i'm pretty sure no X360 fan is stupid to the point of making one of the biggest nintendo-dedicated news sites just to troll.
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="elbert_b_23"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] gonintendo is biased against nintendo, everyone knows it's written by 360 fanboys throwing dirt on nintendo's name.

wouldn't surprise me if that was true but i never go there so i don't know

i'm pretty sure no X360 fan is stupid to the point of making one of the biggest nintendo-dedicated news sites just to troll.

at this point nothing online would surprise me people do a lot of stupid things when they have to much free time and love for something
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#41 gamefan67
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It is true that GI tries too hard to cater to the "hardcore/HD" gamer. You can tell in their writing and it is fairly easy to interpret it as being bias. That being said, GI is pretty wonky with their reviews either way, and dont really care much for them since they are owned by Gamestop.
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#42 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

If they were biased against Nintendo would they give

Punch-Out!!: 9/10

Super Mario Galaxy: 9.75/10

Super Mario Galaxy 2: 9.25/10

New Super Mario Bros. Wii: 9.25/10

Twilight Princess: 10/10

Sin and Punishment 2: 8.75/10

Metrois Prime 3 Corruption: 9.5/10

Super Paper Mario: 9.5/10

Super Smash Bros. Brawl: 9.5/10

Mario Kart Wii: 8.5/10

Almost every one of these scores are well above the critic average.

elbert_b_23

silent hill 6.25 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers 5.5 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Reflex 6.5 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 5.5 Tenchu Shadow Assassin 6.5 Mario Super Sluggers 5.5 Let's Tap 5.0 Ready 2 Rumble: Revolution 1.0 The Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon 4.0 Sim City Creator 5.0 all of thses games are under the critic average some 2 or 3 points

Generally speaking, when a site has some reviews that are above average, and some reviews that are below average, that is normal, and the correct path to take is not to completely ignore every single review that doesn't support your preconceived conclusions about the site. :P

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[QUOTE="elbert_b_23"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] gonintendo is biased against nintendo, everyone knows it's written by 360 fanboys throwing dirt on nintendo's name.BrunoBRS
wouldn't surprise me if that was true but i never go there so i don't know

i'm pretty sure no X360 fan is stupid to the point of making one of the biggest nintendo-dedicated news sites just to troll.

Then why are you accusing Gonintendo of being biased then unless youre being sarcastic?

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#44 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="elbert_b_23"] wouldn't surprise me if that was true but i never go there so i don't knowInfinityMugen

i'm pretty sure no X360 fan is stupid to the point of making one of the biggest nintendo-dedicated news sites just to troll.

Then why are you accusing Gonintendo of being biased then unless youre being sarcastic?

Bingo. :P

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#45 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] i'm pretty sure no X360 fan is stupid to the point of making one of the biggest nintendo-dedicated news sites just to troll.GabuEx

Then why are you accusing Gonintendo of being biased then unless youre being sarcastic?

Bingo. :P

Eureka! :lol:

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#46 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="elbert_b_23"] wouldn't surprise me if that was true but i never go there so i don't knowInfinityMugen

i'm pretty sure no X360 fan is stupid to the point of making one of the biggest nintendo-dedicated news sites just to troll.

Then why are you accusing Gonintendo of being biased then unless youre being sarcastic?

you don't need more than 3 brain cells to figure that one out :P
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#47 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"] Then why are you accusing Gonintendo of being biased then unless youre being sarcastic?

Bingo. :P

Eureka! :lol:

Objection! :evil: ... ...I just wanted to fit in :(
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#48 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Bingo. :P

Eureka! :lol:

Objection! :evil: ... ...I just wanted to fit in :(

NOT SO FAST! you can't fit in before you make a witty conclusion
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#50 LegatoSkyheart
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NOT SO FAST! you can't fit in before you make a witty conclusionBrunoBRS

Phoenix Wright > Apollo Justice

anyway, I find Game Informer to be like Machinima. They like Nintendo Games sometimes and but most of the time they focus on the HD consoles. Mostly the 360. Though it's not neccessarily their fault. It's mostly because of the core audience they have but they're alright.