Goldeneye on VC...possible

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#1 metroid_fan
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Yeah I know this topic has been posted alot but I think there might be a chance we will see goldeneye on VC. I know that Rare is owned by Microsoft and Rare made Goldeneye but if you never noticed at the bottom left of Diddy Kong Racing DS there is the Rare symbol.........so there might be a chance goldeneye ( and perfect dark) will be on VC
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Yeah I know this topic has been posted alot but I think there might be a chance we will see goldeneye on VC. I know that Rare is owned by Microsoft and Rare made Goldeneye but if you never noticed at the bottom left of Diddy Kong Racing DS there is the Rare symbol.........so there might be a chance goldeneye ( and perfect dark) will be on VCmetroid_fan
Yeah there's a chance but its a veeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyy slim chance...
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#3 Jaysonguy
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No, Rare can still make handheld games, NO consoles


Nintendo would have to go to Activision and ask if they can release the game
Then they have to go to Microsoft and ask to have the game
Once they get the game they go back to Activision and get the releases for the game.


They'd end up paying Activision and Microsoft loads of money for a game that wont be worth it in the end.
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Handhelds and consoles don't follow the same rules.

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#5 music4life927
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your better off just bringin out your old n64 and playin it through there cuz its not worth it waiting for somethin thats proably not even going to happen...

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#6 c0mplex
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No, Rare can still make handheld games, NO consoles


Nintendo would have to go to Activision and ask if they can release the game
Then they have to go to Microsoft and ask to have the game
Once they get the game they go back to Activision and get the releases for the game.


They'd end up paying Activision and Microsoft loads of money for a game that wont be worth it in the end.
Jaysonguy
QFT. in the end, its just not profitable for Nintendo... so they won't do it.
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#7 reggie186
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I think it's possible...but it doesn't sound likely.
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#9 dbhp17
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I don't see why whoever owns the rights to the game wouldn't want to make a few bucks.
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Nintendo is looking into getting Goldeneye: http://wii.ign.com/articles/748/748176p1.html

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Nintendo should focus their effort on other games instead of tryin to bring goldeneye to VC. It was a good game, was.

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#12 reggie186
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Nintendo should focus their effort on other games instead of tryin to bring goldeneye to VC. It was a good game, was.

yungboi

I think Goldeneye would be one of their most downloaded VC titles if they did, in fact, bring it to the VC. It would very much be worth their time.

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#13 web966
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goldeneye has not aged well at all.
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#14 reggie186
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goldeneye has not aged well at all.web966

Agreed, but I still think that many, many people will download it just because they once loved it.

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Yeah I know this topic has been posted alot but I think there might be a chance we will see goldeneye on VC. I know that Rare is owned by Microsoft and Rare made Goldeneye but if you never noticed at the bottom left of Diddy Kong Racing DS there is the Rare symbol.........so there might be a chance goldeneye ( and perfect dark) will be on VCmetroid_fan
Here's an answer that the above posters missed. MS owns Rare and certain IP. Like in DKR DS for example, Conker and another character (I think it was Banjo) were taken out and replaced with 2 other characters since Rare and MS now own them. Diddy, Dixie and the rest of the Kong gang likely belong to Nintendo, so they got to stay. Similar licensing issues now exist for Goldeneye, which the above posters have pointed out. It's a needlessly complex matter indeed. :(
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No, Rare can still make handheld games, NO consoles


Nintendo would have to go to Activision and ask if they can release the game
Then they have to go to Microsoft and ask to have the game
Once they get the game they go back to Activision and get the releases for the game.


They'd end up paying Activision and Microsoft loads of money for a game that wont be worth it in the end.
Jaysonguy

They wouldn't be making another game, it's already produced it just depends on who owns the rights to N64 Rare games which I doubt Micro has.

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#17 danneswegman
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Golden eye was great. but you'd be surprised at how the game sucks when you play it again... i rescently played it on the 64... man. Still fun though.
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#18 blackmambax
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well the donkey kong country on the vc was developed by rare and the rare logo come up at the start so besides the bond/007 licensing issues, what problem could goldeneye have in coming to the vc?
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#19 jNerd
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well the donkey kong country on the vc was developed by rare and the rare logo come up at the start so besides the bond/007 licensing issues, what problem could goldeneye have in coming to the vc?blackmambax

Good point.

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#20 nosedive51
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Understand, neither Nintendo nor Rare have the rights to James Bond. GIVE IT UP! IT WON'T HAPPEN.
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Won't happen, unfortunately...
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]No, Rare can still make handheld games, NO consoles


Nintendo would have to go to Activision and ask if they can release the game
Then they have to go to Microsoft and ask to have the game
Once they get the game they go back to Activision and get the releases for the game.


They'd end up paying Activision and Microsoft loads of money for a game that wont be worth it in the end.
c0mplex
QFT. in the end, its just not profitable for Nintendo... so they won't do it.

Not profitable? If they released GoldenEye on the VC and ultimately sold 500,000 that would be £4 million, that's not small change....
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[QUOTE="c0mplex"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]No, Rare can still make handheld games, NO consoles


Nintendo would have to go to Activision and ask if they can release the game
Then they have to go to Microsoft and ask to have the game
Once they get the game they go back to Activision and get the releases for the game.


They'd end up paying Activision and Microsoft loads of money for a game that wont be worth it in the end.
Mantorok
QFT. in the end, its just not profitable for Nintendo... so they won't do it.

Not profitable? If they released GoldenEye on the VC and ultimately sold 500,000 that would be £4 million, that's not small change....

then you would have to consider the licensing fee that Nintendo would have to pay, not only to Activision, but to Rare as well.
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#24 nodisc
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I would like to see Perfect Dark on VC more than Goldeneye. I liked that game more than goldeneye.
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#26 ikn3z
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while you all are waiting for goldeneye..i'll just play rainbow six vegas, gears of war, and wait for halo 3 thank you very much.... although I still need at least 1 VC game to purchase, i'm just not convinced with any current and planed releases. I'm much happier with the xboxlive arcade, they have some quality games.
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#27 mariokart64fan
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do not believe these ppl on here , there is a big chance reggie already said this , and nintendo said they want every big nintendo  game ever released since 85
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do not believe these ppl on here , there is a big chance reggie already said this , and nintendo said they want every big nintendo  game ever released since 85 mariokart64fan

He didn't really say there was a "big chance," he said that they were looking into it.

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#29 silver_986
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well golden eye is nintendo 64 so maybe they'll put it on vc wii
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#30 nintendofreak_2
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Rare is capable of making games for the DS because Microsoft does not have a handheld in the market.
 
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[QUOTE="Mantorok"][QUOTE="c0mplex"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]No, Rare can still make handheld games, NO consoles


Nintendo would have to go to Activision and ask if they can release the game
Then they have to go to Microsoft and ask to have the game
Once they get the game they go back to Activision and get the releases for the game.


They'd end up paying Activision and Microsoft loads of money for a game that wont be worth it in the end.
bill7907

QFT. in the end, its just not profitable for Nintendo... so they won't do it.

Not profitable? If they released GoldenEye on the VC and ultimately sold 500,000 that would be £4 million, that's not small change....

And it would sell millions more if they added an Online mode to it.
Virtual Console games need some Online.

I don't understand why Nintendo is not adding that option to them.


And most of the money is going to go to Microsoft and Activison for every sale.
Nintendo loses some of it's power and also looks bad around the globe for selling back it's shares of Rare.

No online ever for Virtual Console games, ever.
Ever.

You don't screw with the c l a s s i c s
You want online? Go buy something else
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[QUOTE="blackmambax"]well the donkey kong country on the vc was developed by rare and the rare logo come up at the start so besides the bond/007 licensing issues, what problem could goldeneye have in coming to the vc?CheezyFrog
Good point.

Invalid point.  Nintendo owns the Donkey Kong characters.  Just like they own Star Fox, F-Zero and a bunch of others.  Notice how Namco made a Star Fox game and Sega helped another company make F-Zero GX.  Nintendo lets other companies work with their IPs because they would not be able to come out with good games for all of their IPs if they were the only ones developing the games.  Rare might have created the Donkey Kong Country series, but Nintendo holds all the rights to the game.  Beat the game and you will see that it says All Characters, Music blah blah....belong to Nintendo.

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#33 sonic_spark
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I'm getting a headache reading this.

Microsoft has no say in anything pertaining to Goldeneye, nothing, NOTHING AT ALL.

The rights to James Bond lie in Activision's hands.
The rights to the Goldeneye game is held by Rare.

Considering Rare is still making games for the DS, then to obtain rights from them to re-release an old game would not be a big deal.  Secondly, the James Bond license hasn't been used lately, so why not get the rights from Activision to re-release an old Bond title?

Is it 1.) Completely possible 2.) Reggie already noted this particular endeavor SPECIFICALLY 3.) It is completely profitable.

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#34 reggie186
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well golden eye is nintendo 64 so maybe they'll put it on vc wiisilver_986

That's not the issue here...

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#35 reggie186
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I'm getting a headache reading this.

Microsoft has no say in anything pertaining to Goldeneye, nothing, NOTHING AT ALL.

The rights to James Bond lie in Activision's hands.
The rights to the Goldeneye game is held by Rare.

Considering Rare is still making games for the DS, then to obtain rights from them to re-release an old game would not be a big deal.  Secondly, the James Bond license hasn't been used lately, so why not get the rights from Activision to re-release an old Bond title?

Is it 1.) Completely possible 2.) Reggie already noted this particular endeavor SPECIFICALLY 3.) It is completely profitable.

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Doesn't Microsoft own Rare? If so, then don't they have the final say over if they'll license it to Nintendo or not?

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#36 specialed
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No, Rare can still make handheld games, NO consoles


Nintendo would have to go to Activision and ask if they can release the game
Then they have to go to Microsoft and ask to have the game
Once they get the game they go back to Activision and get the releases for the game.


They'd end up paying Activision and Microsoft loads of money for a game that wont be worth it in the end.
Jaysonguy

Please tell us all where you contrive this flowsheet of how it works...

The thing is, you always state your sentences like they're fact, and honestly, you dont know how it works anymore than the next person. You really need to start pre-empting your statements with ..." I bet you would..." or " I woudl imagine..." so you dont sound like such a know-it-all...Please...

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#37 Generic_Dude
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Nintendo should focus their effort on other games instead of tryin to bring goldeneye to VC. It was a good game, was.

yungboi

It still IS a good game, but the problem is that if they don't add online capability, I don't see the point. That's why I'd rather MS latch onto it, but if it hasn't already happened for either company, I'm guessing that obtaining the rights was just too complicated and expensive to be worth it.

In other words, stop with the Goldeneye topics. Please.

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]No, Rare can still make handheld games, NO consoles


Nintendo would have to go to Activision and ask if they can release the game
Then they have to go to Microsoft and ask to have the game
Once they get the game they go back to Activision and get the releases for the game.


They'd end up paying Activision and Microsoft loads of money for a game that wont be worth it in the end.
specialed

Please tell us all where you contrive this flowsheet of how it works...

The thing is, you always state your sentences like they're fact, and honestly, you dont know how it works anymore than the next person. You really need to start pre-empting your statements with ..." I bet you would..." or " I woudl imagine..." so you dont sound like such a know-it-all...Please...


It's because I actually research these things.
My news doesn't come from this message board, when I say what needs to be done then it NEEDS to be done.
There's no guessing.
Watch every single clip and read every interview of Reggie, Nintendo of America, Activion's and Microsoft's reps and then look and what the Rare contract included and excluded and you'll come up with the exact same situation.
I have to time to research

When I say I think something I say it.
When I say it as fact it's because it's fact.
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]No, Rare can still make handheld games, NO consoles


Nintendo would have to go to Activision and ask if they can release the game
Then they have to go to Microsoft and ask to have the game
Once they get the game they go back to Activision and get the releases for the game.


They'd end up paying Activision and Microsoft loads of money for a game that wont be worth it in the end.
specialed
Please tell us all where you contrive this flowsheet of how it works...

The thing is, you always state your sentences like they're fact, and honestly, you dont know how it works anymore than the next person. You really need to start pre-empting your statements with ..." I bet you would..." or " I woudl imagine..." so you dont sound like such a know-it-all...Please...

He is right.  Microsoft does own Rare, but because they have no stake in the handheld market they don't care that Rare is still making games for Nintendo's Handhelds.  Notice how they took the two characters that they created out of Diddy Kong Racing for the DS.

The other stuff I'm not so certain about.  I'm sure Nintendo would have to pay Rare and Activision for using Goldeney and the Bond license, respectively.  I don't know if Microsoft would actually get money from that.  The only way I see them getting money is from Rare, since they actually own Rare.  But yeah, JasonGuy is correct in the other stuff he said, I just don't wanna give a 100% behind all of it just because I'm not sure.

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#40 specialed
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[QUOTE="specialed"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]No, Rare can still make handheld games, NO consoles


Nintendo would have to go to Activision and ask if they can release the game
Then they have to go to Microsoft and ask to have the game
Once they get the game they go back to Activision and get the releases for the game.


They'd end up paying Activision and Microsoft loads of money for a game that wont be worth it in the end.
Jaysonguy

Please tell us all where you contrive this flowsheet of how it works...

The thing is, you always state your sentences like they're fact, and honestly, you dont know how it works anymore than the next person. You really need to start pre-empting your statements with ..." I bet you would..." or " I woudl imagine..." so you dont sound like such a know-it-all...Please...


It's because I actually research these things.
My news doesn't come from this message board, when I say what needs to be done then it NEEDS to be done.
There's no guessing.
Watch every single clip and read every interview of Reggie, Nintendo of America, Activion's and Microsoft's reps and then look and what the Rare contract included and excluded and you'll come up with the exact same situation.
I have to time to research

When I say I think something I say it.
When I say it as fact it's because it's fact.

As far as I am concerned, until you bring any of us links to the stuff you presumably state to be fact in the completest sense, you just appear to be a know-it-all and I wouldn't buy a bunch of what you state. So go ahead and type away, but I dot mean this topic only, I mean any topic you respond to. Just dont buy it.

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#41 jensen_slipknot
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your better off just bringin out your old n64 and playin it through there cuz its not worth it waiting for somethin thats proably not even going to happen...

music4life927
isnt goldeneye one of them for ps2
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#42 reggie186
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This thread is getting pretty heated...