GTA ds is finally here, why all the doubts? your thoughts?

honestly, i have doubts myself.. but wasnt there like " i wish there would be a GTA for ds!!" thing going on a few months back? Its rockstar we are talking about, i really don't thing they would want to tarnish their names by doing a crappy DS GTA for us...

I think the best they could come up with is a 2D top view classic GTA, but with a beautifully rendered cityscape, pretty explosives, and hopefully able to do drug dealings and tradings, mob wars etc. If it really is somethig like that, being 2D isn't really a problem anymore. I just hope they don't overuse the touch screen, like touch screen mini game and that crap.

what are your thoughts?

If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. ItsEvolution

LOL. i know.

If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. ItsEvolution

[QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. Raiko101

I agree, 2d gameplay is trash. Even though a 3d game might not be as sharp, it would have gameplay 1000 times better than a 2d GTA. God, I hope this game isn't 2d!

[QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. santiagochile

I agree, 2d gameplay is trash. Even though a 3d game might not be as sharp, it would have gameplay 1000 times better than a 2d GTA. God, I hope this game isn't 2d!

GTA IS a game where you kill people for no reason. I hate it!limonface32

You don't have to kill people if you don't want to. You could be a fireman.

I think a top-down 2D GTA is just what we need. The classic games were fun, you know. I can assure you that a GTA from that perspective would be of higher quality than a 3D one.

And i think massive sales will occur regardless of dimension.

I don't see how a full 3D GTA game could fit on a ds cart, so it's probably gonna end up being a 2D game.laser-pointer

This is just silly. There are plenty of games in full 3d on the DS. The 2d GTA games have been pathetic. The GTA games were garbage up until GTA III. There is no way this will be a 2d game!

[QUOTE="laser-pointer"]I don't see how a full 3D GTA game could fit on a ds cart, so it's probably gonna end up being a 2D game.santiagochile

This is just silly. There are plenty of games in full 3d on the DS. The 2d GTA games have been pathetic. The GTA games were garbage up until GTA III. There is no way this will be a 2d game!

I just don't see how a GTA game could fit on a ds unless it's 2d. How is Rockstar goin to put a city, cars, pedestrians, missions, and radio stations on a ds cart. It's just not possible. And if they do manage to do all that I will be shocked!:o

i feel otherwise, if you played the original GTA and GTA2 1st long before GTA3 came out, you would remember it was a really fun game.. Knowing the capacity of the DS cart, i would rather a 2D GTA with alot of things to do, than a 3D GTA with nothing much to do other then drive arond doing missions.. just look at Transformers, now that was crap. 3D but crap.. not everything that is 3D is good. 2D still servers its purposes well.

i feel otherwise, if you played the original GTA and GTA2 1st long before GTA3 came out, you would remember it was a really fun game.. Knowing the capacity of the DS cart, i would rather a 2D GTA with alot of things to do, than a 3D GTA with nothing much to do other then drive arond doing missions.. just look at Transformers, now that was crap. 3D but crap.. not everything that is 3D is good. 2D still servers its purposes well.

Ignite2k3

That's exactly my point.

[QUOTE="santiagochile"]

[QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. Jdog30

I agree, 2d gameplay is trash. Even though a 3d game might not be as sharp, it would have gameplay 1000 times better than a 2d GTA. God, I hope this game isn't 2d!

Do we really need a GTA DS with Pokemon D/P engine?

Gee, no thanks..

I never really saw any GTA wish threads a few months back, I never really wished there was a GTA on the DS. But I think this is how it'll be, top down 2d/3d game, where you walk with Dpad and aim with stylus. Anyway I'm not the least bit excited and I'm not buying this even if it turns out to be full 3d or something that people might want.

I never really saw any GTA wish threads a few months back, I never really wished there was a GTA on the DS. But I think this is how it'll be, top down 2d/3d game, where you walk with Dpad and aim with stylus. Anyway I'm not the least bit excited and I'm not buying this even if it turns out to be full 3d or something that people might want.

Minishdriveby

yea, if it turns out the way you describe it, i think it would be a capital FAIL there.

which is my i really hope they implement mafia making like earning money from drugs, or controlling territories for money business etc, and not just running/driving around killing innocent people.

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

I never really saw any GTA wish threads a few months back, I never really wished there was a GTA on the DS. But I think this is how it'll be, top down 2d/3d game, where you walk with Dpad and aim with stylus. Anyway I'm not the least bit excited and I'm not buying this even if it turns out to be full 3d or something that people might want.

Ignite2k3

yea, if it turns out the way you describe it, i think it would be a capital FAIL there.

which is my i really hope they implement mafia making like earning money from drugs, or controlling territories for money business etc, and not just running/driving around killing innocent people.

why would it be a fail the way I described it?

[QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. santiagochile

I agree, 2d gameplay is trash. Even though a 3d game might not be as sharp, it would have gameplay 1000 times better than a 2d GTA. God, I hope this game isn't 2d!

[QUOTE="Ignite2k3"][QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

I never really saw any GTA wish threads a few months back, I never really wished there was a GTA on the DS. But I think this is how it'll be, top down 2d/3d game, where you walk with Dpad and aim with stylus. Anyway I'm not the least bit excited and I'm not buying this even if it turns out to be full 3d or something that people might want.

Minishdriveby

yea, if it turns out the way you describe it, i think it would be a capital FAIL there.

which is my i really hope they implement mafia making like earning money from drugs, or controlling territories for money business etc, and not just running/driving around killing innocent people.

why would it be a fail the way I described it?

[QUOTE="Ignite2k3"][QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

I never really saw any GTA wish threads a few months back, I never really wished there was a GTA on the DS. But I think this is how it'll be, top down 2d/3d game, where you walk with Dpad and aim with stylus. Anyway I'm not the least bit excited and I'm not buying this even if it turns out to be full 3d or something that people might want.

Minishdriveby

yea, if it turns out the way you describe it, i think it would be a capital FAIL there.

which is my i really hope they implement mafia making like earning money from drugs, or controlling territories for money business etc, and not just running/driving around killing innocent people.

why would it be a fail the way I described it?

[QUOTE="santiagochile"]

because if GTA was 3D on the DS, the graphic would be totally bad, or worst (transformers) with only 1 or 2 cars or people running around your screen at one time, that would not be fun. If it was 2D, but just how it was normally, only the older generation would be able to appreciate it, the younger kids, who never played the original GTA, or other older games would think all 2D games are old-skool and therefore "trash" or rather with no value.

[QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. limonface32

I agree, 2d gameplay is trash. Even though a 3d game might not be as sharp, it would have gameplay 1000 times better than a 2d GTA. God, I hope this game isn't 2d!

[QUOTE="Ignite2k3"][QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

I never really saw any GTA wish threads a few months back, I never really wished there was a GTA on the DS. But I think this is how it'll be, top down 2d/3d game, where you walk with Dpad and aim with stylus. Anyway I'm not the least bit excited and I'm not buying this even if it turns out to be full 3d or something that people might want.

Minishdriveby

yea, if it turns out the way you describe it, i think it would be a capital FAIL there.

which is my i really hope they implement mafia making like earning money from drugs, or controlling territories for money business etc, and not just running/driving around killing innocent people.

why would it be a fail the way I described it?

because if GTA was 3D on the DS, the graphic would be totally bad, or worst (transformers) with only 1 or 2 cars or people running around your screen at one time, that would not be fun. If it was 2D, but just how it was normally, only the older generation would be able to appreciate it, the younger kids, who never played the original GTA, or other older games would think all 2D games are old-skool and therefore "trash" or rather with no value.

[QUOTE="santiagochile"]

[QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. Jdog30

I agree, 2d gameplay is trash. Even though a 3d game might not be as sharp, it would have gameplay 1000 times better than a 2d GTA. God, I hope this game isn't 2d!

[QUOTE="Jdog30"][QUOTE="santiagochile"]

[QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. Raiko101

I agree, 2d gameplay is trash. Even though a 3d game might not be as sharp, it would have gameplay 1000 times better than a 2d GTA. God, I hope this game isn't 2d!

Today's gamer are all about graphics and none of gameplay.. how sad the gaming world has turned out to be.. :(

That's fine. Yes I do think that it would be horrible if they do it in 3d all around (that wasn't really my description though). If I were to want this this game I would like it to be 2.5d (think new super mario but top down view) though. Not just plain top down 2d. That way older members of the series have a chance to appreciate it and it still looks somewhat new.

Also the controls I think would work pretty well, with the D-pad for movement and the stylus/touch screen for aiming. Along with the story and other stuff.

But I'm pretty sure they'll do a 2.5D type of thing.

What amazes me is that a lot of people prefer graphics over gameplay. Have any of you ever played games on the Atari 2600? A majority of you will say no - I have. Play games like Pitfall and Space Invaders on the Atari 2600 and tell me if graphics matter. I'm a 36 year old gamer and to me, gameplay matters. I could care less if GTA on the DS is 2D or not. I have played great games like Wasteland on the PC, which even today, is still a great game. Wasteland's graphics don't hold up, but it's still a fun game. Let's wait for GTA to come out on the DS before we pass judgement.

[QUOTE="Jdog30"][QUOTE="santiagochile"]

[QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. Raiko101

I agree, 2d gameplay is trash. Even though a 3d game might not be as sharp, it would have gameplay 1000 times better than a 2d GTA. God, I hope this game isn't 2d!

You are right, since the 2d games played like crap, I don't know why people want a game that has no real gameplay. The DS can do great 2d graphics, like in New Super Mario, but 2d GTAs are about as much fun as having your teeth pulled. GTA wasn't fun until GTA3. The other ones are just lame. I tried the GBA game, but it wasn't much fun. I doubt a 2d GTA would be any good. The fun of GTA is too explore a virtual world. 2d just doesn't cut it.

i personally think its a dumb idea. come on think about GTA and ds....? "Hurry GTA guy! Rub the stylus faster to steal the car!" i doubt thats how you do it but i think GTA just isnt ds matteral lolAmayaPapaya

Sid Meier managed to get Civilization on the DS so I don't see what the problem is.

[QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="Jdog30"][QUOTE="santiagochile"]

[QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. santiagochile

I agree, 2d gameplay is trash. Even though a 3d game might not be as sharp, it would have gameplay 1000 times better than a 2d GTA. God, I hope this game isn't 2d!

You are right, since the 2d games played like crap, I don't know why people want a game that has no real gameplay. The DS can do great 2d graphics, like in New Super Mario, but 2d GTAs are about as much fun as having your teeth pulled. GTA wasn't fun until GTA3. The other ones are just lame. I tried the GBA game, but it wasn't much fun. I doubt a 2d GTA would be any good. The fun of GTA is too explore a virtual world. 2d just doesn't cut it.

It has been a while sence a 2D GTA was made so they may be able to refine the experience so it would be fun. A 3D GTA would be really glitchy like all of the other 3D games on the DS.

what if its 2.5 D...i know a example but no ones played it o well like the mummy dragon emmpoer game for ds or...i hope you get my point:Pgoudan0

Yeah That's what I'm thinking. It seems the most logical choice.

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]i personally think its a dumb idea. come on think about GTA and ds....? "Hurry GTA guy! Rub the stylus faster to steal the car!" i doubt thats how you do it but i think GTA just isnt ds matteral lolBurning-Sludge

Sid Meier managed to get Civilization on the DS so I don't see what the problem is.

[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]i personally think its a dumb idea. come on think about GTA and ds....? "Hurry GTA guy! Rub the stylus faster to steal the car!" i doubt thats how you do it but i think GTA just isnt ds matteral lolJLF1

Sid Meier managed to get Civilization on the DS so I don't see what the problem is.

It is comparable because some said it couldn't be done. I didn't say it was going to be 3D, I said 3D would be too glitchy.

it will most probaly be 2D. NDS hardware can't handle full 3d oepn world gfx.joeychew

That's great

Except.....

The DS already has sandbox 3D game and it handles it just fine so yeah, there's that.

[QUOTE="joeychew"]it will most probaly be 2D. NDS hardware can't handle full 3d oepn world gfx.Jaysonguy

That's great

Except.....

The DS already has sandbox 3D game and it handles it just fine so yeah, there's that.

What is the name of that game, I may want to buy it?

[QUOTE="santiagochile"][QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="Jdog30"][QUOTE="santiagochile"]

[QUOTE="Raiko101"][QUOTE="ItsEvolution"]If it ends up a 2D, top down game, they can kiss the prospect of massive sales goodbye. Burning-Sludge

I agree, 2d gameplay is trash. Even though a 3d game might not be as sharp, it would have gameplay 1000 times better than a 2d GTA. God, I hope this game isn't 2d!

You are right, since the 2d games played like crap, I don't know why people want a game that has no real gameplay. The DS can do great 2d graphics, like in New Super Mario, but 2d GTAs are about as much fun as having your teeth pulled. GTA wasn't fun until GTA3. The other ones are just lame. I tried the GBA game, but it wasn't much fun. I doubt a 2d GTA would be any good. The fun of GTA is too explore a virtual world. 2d just doesn't cut it.

It has been a while sence a 2D GTA was made so they may be able to refine the experience so it would be fun. A 3D GTA would be really glitchy like all of the other 3D games on the DS.

Ok, OBVIOUSLY 3D games are possible on a DS...

But with all of the content in GTA games? Seems unlikely. Unless they make the city really really really small.

What amazes me is that a lot of people prefer graphics over gameplay. Have any of you ever played games on the Atari 2600? A majority of you will say no - I have. Play games like Pitfall and Space Invaders on the Atari 2600 and tell me if graphics matter. I'm a 36 year old gamer and to me, gameplay matters. I could care less if GTA on the DS is 2D or not. I have played great games like Wasteland on the PC, which even today, is still a great game. Wasteland's graphics don't hold up, but it's still a fun game. Let's wait for GTA to come out on the DS before we pass judgement.

HA0472

EXACTLY my point, THANKS! Graphics < Gameplay.

And for those that felt the previous GTA was not better than GTAIII, its really pretty sad. I would like to think its because it is because of the name. GTA1- GTA2 was one of the best games on the PSX back then, back then when 3D was not beautiful yet, ever played Driver on PSX? Driver was 3D, but compared to the 2D top down view GTA2, Driver had no chance. Try to think of Space invaders for DS, its a great game wasnt it? or Tetris DS.

3D really isnt that much greater. It is only great becausethe oldest console you ever played is PS2 or XBOX.. because before those consoles, people actually knew that 2D was better than 3D, and for 3D, if not done properly, becomes trash. DS 3D games are pretty much trash in a way, cept for maybe a few.

honestly, i have doubts myself.. but wasnt there like " i wish there would be a GTA for ds!!" thing going on a few months back? Its rockstar we are talking about, i really don't thing they would want to tarnish their names by doing a crappy DS GTA for us...

I think the best they could come up with is a 2D top view classic GTA, but with a beautifully rendered cityscape, pretty explosives, and hopefully able to do drug dealings and tradings, mob wars etc. If it really is somethig like that, being 2D isn't really a problem anymore. I just hope they don't overuse the touch screen, like touch screen mini game and that crap.

what are your thoughts?

Ignite2k3

I will wait and see how it is first, not sold on it as of now.

[QUOTE="HA0472"]

What amazes me is that a lot of people prefer graphics over gameplay. Have any of you ever played games on the Atari 2600? A majority of you will say no - I have. Play games like Pitfall and Space Invaders on the Atari 2600 and tell me if graphics matter. I'm a 36 year old gamer and to me, gameplay matters. I could care less if GTA on the DS is 2D or not. I have played great games like Wasteland on the PC, which even today, is still a great game. Wasteland's graphics don't hold up, but it's still a fun game. Let's wait for GTA to come out on the DS before we pass judgement.

Ignite2k3

EXACTLY my point, THANKS! Graphics < Gameplay.

And for those that felt the previous GTA was not better than GTAIII, its really pretty sad. I would like to think its because it is because of the name. GTA1- GTA2 was one of the best games on the PSX back then, back then when 3D was not beautiful yet, ever played Driver on PSX? Driver was 3D, but compared to the 2D top down view GTA2, Driver had no chance. Try to think of Space invaders for DS, its a great game wasnt it? or Tetris DS.

3D really isnt that much greater. It is only great becausethe oldest console you ever played is PS2 or XBOX.. because before those consoles, people actually knew that 2D was better than 3D, and for 3D, if not done properly, becomes trash. DS 3D games are pretty much trash in a way, cept for maybe a few.

You must have been talking to someone else if you said the oldest system I played was the PS2! I grew up with the NEW system and 8 bit gaming. 2d was only good back then because no one know what it was like to play a fully 3d game like GTA III. After GTA III, gaming never was the same. If you want a 2d GTA buy the gameboy version (boring). The DS can handle 3d environments just fine. I'm waiting for a real GTA, not some outdated game with the GTA name that is not really GTA nor is any fun.