Guess who's reviewing S&P 2 at IGN? ROFL!!

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#1 livinitup01
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You guessed it: Daemon Hatfield. I read this and laughed. Does IGN do this on purpose or are they unaware that he doesn't like Wii games? I wonder what he'll give the game? They should've just given Craig the game to review. Nonetheless, this should be funny. ;)

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#2 NaveedLife
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You guessed it: Daemon Hatfield. I read this and laughed. Does IGN do this on purpose or are they unaware that he doesn't like Wii games? I wonder what he'll give the game? They should've just given Craig the game to review. Nonetheless, this should be funny. ;)

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Lmao I forgot the US IGN has not reviewed it yet, but UK or AU has. He isnt even a Nintendo editor is he?

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#3 elbert_b_23
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@NaveedLife no he was demoted to download reviews yet ign loves him so they give him wii stuff to review he should been fired years ago
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#4 NaveedLife
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Well seeing as to how it got a 9.2 from UK (or AU i dont remember) on IGN and a 8.5 from GS (who can be really harsh) it is probably a pretty good game :P.

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Just because he fails as a gamer this gen...or rather you fail at life in general- yeah, that's what happens when you hate the wii, it's a direct correlation- anyways, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll bash this title just because it's on a wii platform. It could happen, but doesn't mean it will.
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#6 Fightingfan
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Am I suppose to know IGN editors?
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]Just because he fails as a gamer this gen...or rather you fail at life in general- yeah, that's what happens when you hate the wii, it's a direct correlation- anyways, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll bash this title just because it's on a wii platform. It could happen, but doesn't mean it will.

he didnt like nnintendo's conference. he's the only person i know that thought it was bad. and i asked EVERYONE.
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]Just because he fails as a gamer this gen...or rather you fail at life in general- yeah, that's what happens when you hate the wii, it's a direct correlation- anyways, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll bash this title just because it's on a wii platform. It could happen, but doesn't mean it will.BrunoBRS
he didnt like nnintendo's conference. he's the only person i know that thought it was bad. and i asked EVERYONE.

I wouldnt be so skeptical if he had a good reason for not liking the conference, but his reasons sounded like they should have been geared towards the other two not nintendo. I thought nintendo's way of doing the conference was great, it was just one game after another.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]Just because he fails as a gamer this gen...or rather you fail at life in general- yeah, that's what happens when you hate the wii, it's a direct correlation- anyways, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll bash this title just because it's on a wii platform. It could happen, but doesn't mean it will.NaveedLife

he didnt like nnintendo's conference. he's the only person i know that thought it was bad. and i asked EVERYONE.

I wouldnt be so skeptical if he had a good reason for not liking the conference, but his reasons sounded like they should have been geared towards the other two not nintendo. I thought nintendo's way of doing the conference was great, it was just one game after another.

and unlike microsoft (no i'm not letting that go until i see some good games for kinect), the games were interesting all the time.
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#10 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] he didnt like nnintendo's conference. he's the only person i know that thought it was bad. and i asked EVERYONE.BrunoBRS

I wouldnt be so skeptical if he had a good reason for not liking the conference, but his reasons sounded like they should have been geared towards the other two not nintendo. I thought nintendo's way of doing the conference was great, it was just one game after another.

and unlike microsoft (no i'm not letting that go until i see some good games for kinect), the games were interesting all the time.

LOL not to get off topic too much but MS's kinect is a joke, and jimmy fallons interview stating its the future (he better be kidding) is hillarious. I think the Wiimotion and move are far superior. anyway, I bet he gives S and P an 8.5ish

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#11 dunl12496
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What's S&P2?

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What's S&P2?

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sin & punishment 2
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]Just because he fails as a gamer this gen...or rather you fail at life in general- yeah, that's what happens when you hate the wii, it's a direct correlation- anyways, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll bash this title just because it's on a wii platform. It could happen, but doesn't mean it will.

he didnt like nnintendo's conference. he's the only person i know that thought it was bad. and i asked EVERYONE.

you must have not been watching g4s coverage morgan web said that nintendo conference was the worst and she is less and less every year liking nintendo then she kept saying **** about nintendo
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[QUOTE="elbert_b_23"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]Just because he fails as a gamer this gen...or rather you fail at life in general- yeah, that's what happens when you hate the wii, it's a direct correlation- anyways, it doesn't necessarily mean he'll bash this title just because it's on a wii platform. It could happen, but doesn't mean it will.

he didnt like nnintendo's conference. he's the only person i know that thought it was bad. and i asked EVERYONE.

you must have not been watching g4s coverage morgan web said that nintendo conference was the worst and she is less and less every year liking nintendo then she kept saying **** about nintendo

yeah i don't watch G4.from the people i know (you know, chat with), i haven't seen a single negative mention.
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[QUOTE="elbert_b_23"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] he didnt like nnintendo's conference. he's the only person i know that thought it was bad. and i asked EVERYONE.BrunoBRS
you must have not been watching g4s coverage morgan web said that nintendo conference was the worst and she is less and less every year liking nintendo then she kept saying **** about nintendo

yeah i don't watch G4.from the people i know (you know, chat with), i haven't seen a single negative mention.

OMG I HATE G4! They are the most biased group of horrible reviewers I have ever seen.

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You guessed it: Daemon Hatfield. I read this and laughed. Does IGN do this on purpose or are they unaware that he doesn't like Wii games? I wonder what he'll give the game? They should've just given Craig the game to review. Nonetheless, this should be funny. ;)

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He'll give it a semi-fare review. He's given plenty of Wii games good reviews despite the fact that he's not a huge Nintendo fan. Besides Craig can't review every game by himself. Other people have to share in the reviews. Besides if you already want the game what does it matter if the review from IGN isn't that good.
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I know Daemon isn'a a big Wii fan, but I am going to go on record and say that I love the friggin guy so I just don't care :P

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#18 Darth-Samus
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On a side note, given that the game has an 87 on Metacritic and even a few 10s, I think it's fair to say IGN will give it a good score because it's obviously a great game! I know I'm getting it Sunday! Already have it paid for ;)

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If they gave Daemon a 360 or PS3 game he would probably overrate it.

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Who cares who reviews it? All professional game journalists are the same. Motivated only by money, personal bias, and attention whoring. Reading reviews is for people who can't think for themselves.
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] he didnt like nnintendo's conference. he's the only person i know that thought it was bad. and i asked EVERYONE.BrunoBRS

I wouldnt be so skeptical if he had a good reason for not liking the conference, but his reasons sounded like they should have been geared towards the other two not nintendo. I thought nintendo's way of doing the conference was great, it was just one game after another.

and unlike microsoft (no i'm not letting that go until i see some good games for kinect), the games were interesting all the time.

Isn't Child of Eden a good Kinect game? But that is also on another console and can be played without Kinect or Move.

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He said on gamescoop that the game is really great

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I don't know why people hate him. When he said bad things about nintendo's conference I think he meant presentation wise and not just games. Presentation wise the conference was not the best. Zelda had issues, even though the controls do work, it does sting to be up there on stage with the one of the biggest franchises ever and then have it not work. For 3DS we saw a bunch of videos and whatnot. These games are cool but some of the presentation was not that great. I don't know why anyone cares what reviewers think anyway. I don't know why people watch G4 the whole X play is dunb. Their reviews last generation were crap. The guy reviewer hates anything Japanese so all of those games got mediocre scores just because he doesn't like that style and the way they make fun of everything is annoying so whatever. The only reason I watched it was because I was over at a friends house and he always wanted to.

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#25 NeoStar9
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People dislike him because he has a known dislike to hate toward Nintendo. He doesn't hide it and will be negative no matter what they do. That compromises he's ability to review any Nintnedo based product because of his obvious negative bias toward Nintendo systems. He was reviewing Nintendo sections for a while. It calls into question IGN as a whole to having someone with a known hate for systems to actually review them. It has been felt that IGN has been anti-Nintendo for some time. Hatfield is a prime example of it.
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#26 clicketyclick
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That compromises he's ability to review any Nintnedo based product because of his obvious negative bias toward Nintendo systems.NeoStar9

If this is the case, then why isn't it also the case that people who like/love Nintendo systems have an obvious positive bias towards Nintendo systems, and thus this compromises their ability to review any Nintendo-made product? ;)

Only robots can review games!!!!!!!

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It would only make sense to put someone to review Nintendo games who hates them, if you also did the same thing with every other game. That is not the case. 360 and PS3 reviewers routinely gloss over weaknesses of hyped 360 and PS3 games. The only time that's happened with a Wii game is with Conduit and Madworld, and only on IGN, really. Since other games are reviewed by people who love playing on those platforms, it stands to reason that the same practice ought to be done for Wii games.
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#28 clicketyclick
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[QUOTE="roxlimn"]It would only make sense to put someone to review Nintendo games who hates them, if you also did the same thing with every other game. That is not the case. 360 and PS3 reviewers routinely gloss over weaknesses of hyped 360 and PS3 games. The only time that's happened with a Wii game is with Conduit and Madworld, and only on IGN, really. Since other games are reviewed by people who love playing on those platforms, it stands to reason that the same practice ought to be done for Wii games.

Ok i'll bite. On what basis did you conclude he hates Nintendo games.
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[QUOTE="elbert_b_23"] you must have not been watching g4s coverage morgan web said that nintendo conference was the worst and she is less and less every year liking nintendo then she kept saying **** about nintendo

I love G4 and all, but she's a nut case if she thinks Nintendo did worst. :P
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[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="roxlimn"]It would only make sense to put someone to review Nintendo games who hates them, if you also did the same thing with every other game. That is not the case. 360 and PS3 reviewers routinely gloss over weaknesses of hyped 360 and PS3 games. The only time that's happened with a Wii game is with Conduit and Madworld, and only on IGN, really. Since other games are reviewed by people who love playing on those platforms, it stands to reason that the same practice ought to be done for Wii games.

Ok i'll bite. On what basis did you conclude he hates Nintendo games.

i think all the hate he got is because he said he thought nintendo's conference was the worse of all 3. nonsense, but whatever. i'm just going with the flow for teh lulz :P
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] i think all the hate he got is because he said he thought nintendo's conference was the worse of all 3. nonsense, but whatever. i'm just going with the flow for teh lulz :P

Their press conference was arguably the worst in terms of presentation, which is exactly what he was saying. It had a very rough start, exactly as he said. The reason for the problems is irrelevant to the fact that the problems were embarrassing and awkward. That still remains, and so regardless of the 3DS (which daemon said was "very cool"), you could say that they had the worst press conference. I'm not sure people comprehend this, but presentation is something different from content. You can present your content well, or you can present it badly, regardless of whether the content itself is good or not. Daemon said Microsoft's conference was the best, specifically in terms of presentation, although there were no surprises or revelations. It went the smoothest, and so, that's why he says it was the best press conference. I don't get why people love to take things out of context and get melodramatic just because Hatfield said the 3DS was very cool, but the press conference had a rough start and therefore, their press conference was the weakest of the three in terms of presentation.
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[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] i think all the hate he got is because he said he thought nintendo's conference was the worse of all 3. nonsense, but whatever. i'm just going with the flow for teh lulz :P

Their press conference was arguably the worst in terms of presentation, which is exactly what he was saying. It had a very rough start, exactly as he said. The reason for the problems is irrelevant to the fact that the problems were embarrassing and awkward. That still remains, and so regardless of the 3DS (which daemon said was "very cool"), you could say that they had the worst press conference. I'm not sure people comprehend this, but presentation is something different from content. You can present your content well, or you can present it badly, regardless of whether the content itself is good or not. Daemon said Microsoft's conference was the best, specifically in terms of presentation, although there were no surprises or revelations. It went the smoothest, and so, that's why he says it was the best press conference. I don't get why people love to take things out of context and get melodramatic just because Hatfield said the 3DS was very cool, but the press conference had a rough start and therefore, their press conference was the weakest of the three in terms of presentation.

well honestly, "skittles!" can top anything in terms of awkwardness, even miyamoto having trouble playing zelda.
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This is going to be interesting. Whatever, it been getting great scores and this game is just insane. I love it so much.

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#34 Renegade_Fury
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He gave it a 9.0. I'll put it on my list of games to buy eventually.

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He gave it a 9/10...:|

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i think this pretty much ends this pointless discussion. /thread, move to the IGN review thread now.
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[QUOTE="roxlimn"]It would only make sense to put someone to review Nintendo games who hates them, if you also did the same thing with every other game. That is not the case. 360 and PS3 reviewers routinely gloss over weaknesses of hyped 360 and PS3 games. The only time that's happened with a Wii game is with Conduit and Madworld, and only on IGN, really. Since other games are reviewed by people who love playing on those platforms, it stands to reason that the same practice ought to be done for Wii games.clicketyclick
Ok i'll bite. On what basis did you conclude he hates Nintendo games.

Great, he gave it a 9.0. That doesn't change much. It'd be dumb if he gave it a lower score considering how undeniably great it is. Remember, he's also a big fan of classic shooters. The game deserves it.

Before this thread is closed, you want to know how we concluded he hates Nintendo? He said so himself on his Game Scoop! Podcast last year after E3 AND on his blog.

Game Scoop Podcast - http://games.ign.com/articles/992/992178p1.html

Nintendo Hate Snippet - http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=86962

Daemon's Response - http://blogs.ign.com/daemon-IGN/2009/06/07/

Read them and then see what you think.