Hey, so I just bought Mario Power Tennis. (new play control). IGN lies!

I was really doubting Mario Tennis after IGN gave it quite a beating, but I had recently been given a gift card to an electronics store, and I figured "hey, if it's bad at least I didn't waste my own money". I must say, I've lost a huge amount of respect for IGN. Mario Power Tennis is simply awsome.

The controls are not only intuitive, but very responsive--the complete opposite of what IGN said. I haven't had a single problem with theWii remote misreading a shot, and that can't be saidof many Wii games. Also, there were some flat-out lies from IGN about the control set up. They said that since charge shotsare handeled automatically (which isn't entirely true) it takes the skill out of the game. That doesn't make any sense as all it tookin the GC versionwas holding down the A button. Ah yes, so much skill. In fact charge shots take more skill now than it did before because you have to place yourself in the direct path of the ball to start charging.

I'll post a full review of this soon, but I wanted to call out all of the nonsense of the IGN review, which hada lot of people upset. Thank goodness I didn't listen to them, because Mario Power Tennis is easily the best tennis experience on the Wii (even better than Wii Sports), - although I admit the "gimmick courses" are just flat out annoying. Just wanted to clear that up- I would've been angry that I was missing out on a wii tennis game this good

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StephenBassford

*sigh* so you didn't even read it?

Ever since the first Wii Tiger Woods game, I've been wary of other people's description of the Wii remote's accuracy. In Tiger Woods, the remote only wonks out maybe one out of every twenty five shots or so for me (which is too many, but not enough to say the control is completely terrible). But for some of my friends, it would screw up on probably four out of every five shots. I watched them swing and simply couldn't see what they were doing differently, but something on the user-end was causing the controls to consistently respond strangely.

The same kind of thing is true for Okami. A lot of people here say that the controls are unresponsive in battle, but I never had any major problems.

So it's hard to know when a game actually has unresponsive controls without playing it yourself. We can't say the reviewer was lying, because if one of my friends had reviewed Tiger Woods, he would've given it a 0 because he couldn't even finish a hole thanks to the controls. That's an extreme example, granted, but motion controls are much more subject to user mistakes than a button push. And sometimes reviewers just aren't doing it right, such as Matt Cassamassina playing Wii Music or Brian Ekberg demoing Nitrobike (a less known example, I know, but I thought I'd be fair :P).

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Yeah I get what your saying. I'm starting to get the feeling that Matt isn't so good at videogames...

Slowly but surely, people are coming around to the idea that IGN's reviews suck. :P

Anyway, IGN I find to be rarely trustworthy with reviews. The slightest hint of "waggle" in a game, and they'll automatically mark it down 3 points without a second thought.

Regardless of the score I was planning on buying Mario Power Tennis soon. I never got a chance to play it on the GC so now seems like the perfect time to check it out. I could care less about IGN's what IGN says about the game. I won't go as far to say IGN is lying since that is soley their opinion...but I'm interested to see how the game plays

I was going to get Mario tennis but all ofthose bad reviews scared me off. I'll have to give it rent now.

Hmm, you know I wasn't gonna get this game but I now actual feel the vaguest on interests building inside.

Regardless of the score I was planning on buying Mario Power Tennis soon. I never got a chance to play it on the GC so now seems like the perfect time to check it out. I could care less about IGN's what IGN says about the game. I won't go as far to say IGN is lying since that is soley their opinion...but I'm interested to see how the game plays

princesszelda

I was going to get Mario tennis but all ofthose bad reviews scared me off. I'll have to give it rent now.

mesc420

Thanks for posting this. I was debating whether to get this or not, it looks great might pick it up soon.

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blankshore

*sigh* so you didn't even read it?

ohh, yeah...

I agree with you. IGN's review seems really low compared to other sites. If the new control is spot on, i don't see any reason for the game to get a lower score than it originally had. Great game.

Content-wise it's pretty much the exact same as the last one, but for some reason I feel like I'm playing it for the first time. The controls take a little while to get used to (it took me about three matches) but I tried going back to Wii Sports and I just can't do it anymore. Mario Tennis is just so much better in every way.

If you used to own the game there's not much new, but the controls make it worth revisiting, because chances are we won't see a full blown new mario tennis for Wii.

No offense, but IGN isn't the only negative review out there for the game. There have been some good reviews, but overall, impressions have been all over the place. You can figure out for yourself what that means, the metacritic average is a 7.

I liked the game on the GameCube, so I;d probably like it on the Wii. but i already got it on the Cube, so I don;t really need to get the Wiii version, even with the new controls.

Hey, I just posted a full review.

Check it out...

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/mariotennis/player_review.html?id=649466

I was really doubting Mario Tennis after IGN gave it quite a beating, but I had recently been given a gift card to an electronics store, and I figured "hey, if it's bad at least I didn't waste my own money". I must say, I've lost a huge amount of respect for IGN. Mario Power Tennis is simply awsome.

blankshore

IGN are not the only ones who said that it sucked, X-play gave it a bad score too (2 out of 5).

So that means that it prolly sucks.

I felt that way with Samba De Amigo. I hyped that game pretty hard so I bought it despite almost every reviewer stating that the controls do not work. Within a week I was performing songs on Super Hard(highest difficulty) with 100% perfect scores! If the controls didn't work, then how would I be able to do that so easily?

Crap, you beat me to it, Pikminmaniac. I'm not a 100% machine on Samba De Amigo, but I can still complete songs on hard and Superhard, and almost every gamecritic said the controls sucked on those two difficulty settings, but they probably just don't know how to play wii games anymore.

Games are opinions. I liked Spider Man 3 for the Wii, yet a lot of people didn't. You liked Mario Power Tennis, IGN did not.TheColbert

Contrast that analysis with this one from Nintendo World Report (not a big hitter when it comes to reviews, but this reviewer has a good take):

The first few times I tried to lob the ball over an opponent's head I instead performed a soft back-spin shot, giving him a nice piece of cake to slam back down my throat. I was ready to write the entire experience off as frustrating garbage. However, a few hours of gameplay later I began to notice something incredibly intriguing. I found my ability to hit consistent lob shots improving slightly. Was I actually getting better at my virtual tennis swing through practice? This is some amazing stuff.

Don't get me wrong. The imprecision of the controls will most likely keep all players from ever reaching the level of shot selection fluency possible in the original GameCube game. This isn't a bad thing, though. Being able to take on a strategy knowing that your opponent cannot always execute the perfect shot really adds the realism, and not always being able to hit the perfect shot makes the moments where you do all the more exciting.NWR

Of all the reviews I've seen, this is the only one that actually talks about the game as it is, not how the reviewer wishes it were. Part of the draw of the Wii remote is realism, and if you've ever played real tennis (or even golf), then you know that what you intend to do is not always what actually happens, even after years of playing. I can understand not wanting that kind of thing in a videogame, which is obviously what Bozon suggests in his review, but that isn't a universally shared opinion.

I totally disagree with the ign review and I resent the fact he panned a game that he clearly hadn't spent more than a few mins with. The reviewer had some basic facts wrong, nevermind his bad taste. MPT is terrific. I'll never get tired of playing it, alone or with friends. I guess if someone didn't like Wii Sports Tennis that much, or doesn't like the Wii that much, I can see them not thinking Mario Tennis with motion controls is anything too exciting... but, such a person probably shouldn't be the one to write the wii reviews.....

Slowly but surely, people are coming around to the idea that IGN's reviews suck. :P

GabuEx

IGN isn't lying, Mario Power Tennis got mixed reviews and they were on the lower end.

Here's a link so you can have a look at the spread: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/newplaycontrolmariopowertennis

I noticed my friends having problems with Wii Sports. Golf, Baseball, and Boxing especially. If you swing the controllers, like when Golfing or Boxing, obviously in real life....you have to bring the bat/club back to it's normal position. They didn't program the game to react to that. You swing the controller around, and you have to wait for it to reset back to the normal position. I understand how they work, but I saw frustration in my friends and could see why people get angered over it.

All you have to do though, is wait a second for it to reset back to normal. No big deal, you can't just swing around and expect it to register.

Boxing takes strategy as well. You can't just swing around (well you can, but it'srather sloppyimo.), and expect to become a champion.

I expect this to be the same way with Mario Tennis. You just have to figure the controls out, and see how they work. I bet it's not all bad.

Its funny because more of the elite members here have this fixed position about IGN without warrent. They tried blasting IGN for Sonic and the Black Knight eventhough it does suck and definitely deserves that score. They try doing with this game eventhough it definitely has issues, when a port comes to a newer console and it performs worse on it that is a huge problem. Besides that GS usually gives bad games around the same score as IGN does so being mad at IGN while saying how great GS is can be seen as laughable. What usually happens is IGN posts their review and some random member on here does not like it and then GS comes in 2 months later with a similar review with similar complaints. The difference bewteen IGN and GS when it comes to Wii reviews is 1. IGN reviews actually exist, and 2. IGN recognizes good Wii games while GS throws 7s at some very ambitious games (their opinion but I am just stating the difference).

I knew IGN underated it when I saw Game Informers reviews set at 8.25 and 725.

No, the controls simply dont work. I agree with IGN and G4 completely.C-Lee

So you're saying I just made all that up? You just have to give it some practice--I couldn't do lob shots to save my life, but after a few games I could do 'em without a problem. I think that you just didn't give it enough ofa chance.

And just to clear things up, I actually really like IGN--I usually prefer their reviews to anyone elses, but this one just really bugged me.

[QUOTE="C-Lee"]No, the controls simply dont work. I agree with IGN and G4 completely.blankshore

So you're saying I just made all that up? You just have to give it some practice--I couldn't do lob shots to save my life, but after a few games I could do 'em without a problem. I think that you just didn't give it enough ofa chance.

And just to clear things up, I actually really like IGN--I usually prefer their reviews to anyone elses, but this one just really bugged me.

Wait until GS reviews it, the score will be similar to IGN.

I won't touch a GC remake, let alone one without motion plus.

Huh. Well I guess it just depends on the player then--and btw I totally agree about Samba de Amigo. I don't have any problems with responsivness.

In all honesty, I do wish they would've waited for the motion plus for Mario Power Tennis, but until then, this is the best tennis game on the Wii.

Anyway, IGN I find to be rarely trustworthy with reviews. The slightest hint of "waggle" in a game, and they'll automatically mark it down 3 points without a second thought.

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Anyway, IGN I find to be rarely trustworthy with reviews. The slightest hint of "waggle" in a game, and they'll automatically mark it down 3 points without a second thought.

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