High Voltage Software Is Using The Wii Audience

Check this out.....

In 1998 an upstart team named Rockstar made a game, perhaps you heard of it, Grand Theft Auto
Now that game did poorly but showed some promise in places so a year later they released Grand Theft Auto 2 and that did better but still wasn't anywhere near good so they took a step back and reassess their ability to make a good game

What they made was one of the most important pieces of software in history with Grand Theft Auto 3, from there on they've gone to deliver quality experiences every few years and have even dropped a few games the Wii's direction. They talk the talk and get lots of pub but they deliver with some of the best software you can buy.

They went from below average to great in a span of three years

Now let's take a look at High Voltage.

They started in 1993, a half decade before Rockstar, and they're entering their 18th year of developing software and what do they have to show for it?
A plethora of bad titles that barely get above 50% in review scores.

Now normally this wouldn't be a problem because there's other shovelware developers that make bad games too, the problem is that High Voltage like to talks the talk that they haven't backed up in almost 2 decades.

They promise Wii owners great gameplay and stellar graphics and overall fun experiences and they've failed to deliver any of those things for the entire length of the Wii's lifetime. From launch to today they've failed to deliver a game that even comes close to their talk.

They don't mind either. They had no problem telling Nintnedo Power that they would have added online to Tournament of Legends but that would take too long and they wanted to get it out quickly.

So here's a developer telling Wii owners they'll make a good game and Wii owners believe them and then tell other Wii owners that they should too and what does High Voltage do with this pub? They start making deals with "others" from the high profile they have now doing nothing but talk.

They're users and they've camped out on the Wii because for whatever reason their talk is more effective there, no idea.

More and more I see Wii owners who used to listen to their talk stop listening with no results and thankfully it's happening more and more. As I've shown before devs don't need ages to come around and make good games, it's under 5 years for almost all of them with Rockstar being one significant dev who started off poorly and turned it around without large funds that many say is behind High Voltage's 18 years of bad titles.

Do you ever think we'll come to a point where no one on the Wii listens to High Voltage's talk?

Marry me Jasonguy you are so right.

Edit: Maybe not marry cause I've been trying to get this girl to go out with me... but if that falls through :D

Do you ever think we'll come to a point where no one on the Wii listens to High Voltage's talk?Jaysonguy

Plus, it doesn't really matter in the end if people listen to HVS. Their games speak for themselves, for better or worse.

Marry me Jasonguy you are so right.

Cruse34

Thank you :D

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Do you ever think we'll come to a point where no one on the Wii listens to High Voltage's talk?JordanElek

Plus, it doesn't really matter in the end if people listen to HVS. Their games speak for themselves, for better or worse.

No, that doesn't save High Voltage. If the Conduit 2 is passable that means they've made one game worth playing.

If we look back at Rockstar they didn't just make Grand Theft Auto 3 and then go down, they've been able to build upon each release with a better game. That's what all quality devs do, they build. Now if High Voltage was building we'd see their "good" title in between 1996-1998 and they'd be growing ever since.

I don't think they have the ability to make a great game but just like it's possible for 100 monkeys on a typewriters to write all the works of Shakespeare it's possible. The problem is that if they make a good game could they become a good dev?

The problem is that if they make a good game could they become a good dev?

Jaysonguy

If they make a good game they are a good dev.

You're a good dev if you prove yourself and you remain a good dev until you prove yourself otherwise.

Let's give HVS one more chance with Conduit 2 before we start condemming them. If Conduit 2 turns out to be bad then I'll agree Jasonguy is right. I personally enjoyed The Conduit, but it was horribly glitchy. If they can deliver a bit smoother experience this time I'll be happy. They may not be a top tier developer but they don't deserve all the hatred. If they actually end up getting downloadable map packs running working on the Wii then they should at least get credit for that. They'll be in the same league as Vicarious Visions on going the extra effort to get DLC tech for the Wii.

No, that doesn't save High Voltage. If the Conduit 2 is passable that means they've made one game worth playing.

If we look back at Rockstar they didn't just make Grand Theft Auto 3 and then go down, they've been able to build upon each release with a better game. That's what all quality devs do, they build. Now if High Voltage was building we'd see their "good" title in between 1996-1998 and they'd be growing ever since.

I don't think they have the ability to make a great game but just like it's possible for 100 monkeys on a typewriters to write all the works of Shakespeare it's possible. The problem is that if they make a good game could they become a good dev?

Jaysonguy

Check this out.....

In 1998 an upstart team named Rockstar made a game, perhaps you heard of it, Grand Theft Auto
Now that game did poorly but showed some promise in places so a year later they released Grand Theft Auto 2 and that did better but still wasn't anywhere near good so they took a step back and reassess their ability to make a good game

What they made was one of the most important pieces of software in history with Grand Theft Auto 3, from there on they've gone to deliver quality experiences every few years and have even dropped a few games the Wii's direction. They talk the talk and get lots of pub but they deliver with some of the best software you can buy.

Jaysonguy

Get over it.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Check this out.....

In 1998 an upstart team named Rockstar made a game, perhaps you heard of it, Grand Theft Auto
Now that game did poorly but showed some promise in places so a year later they released Grand Theft Auto 2 and that did better but still wasn't anywhere near good so they took a step back and reassess their ability to make a good game

What they made was one of the most important pieces of software in history with Grand Theft Auto 3, from there on they've gone to deliver quality experiences every few years and have even dropped a few games the Wii's direction. They talk the talk and get lots of pub but they deliver with some of the best software you can buy.

nini200

Because I'm right?

They have some of the highest ranking software ever.

Y'know Jason, I don't think anyone could've summarized how much High Voltage sucks better than that.

Maybe, the Conduit is their GTA, and the Conduit 2 will be their GTA2, then finally, the Conduit 3 will be their GTA 3:P

In order for HVS to be good, they probably have to fire 75% of their employees.

[QUOTE="nini200"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Check this out.....

In 1998 an upstart team named Rockstar made a game, perhaps you heard of it, Grand Theft Auto
Now that game did poorly but showed some promise in places so a year later they released Grand Theft Auto 2 and that did better but still wasn't anywhere near good so they took a step back and reassess their ability to make a good game

What they made was one of the most important pieces of software in history with Grand Theft Auto 3, from there on they've gone to deliver quality experiences every few years and have even dropped a few games the Wii's direction. They talk the talk and get lots of pub but they deliver with some of the best software you can buy.

Jaysonguy

Because I'm right?

They have some of the highest ranking software ever.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="nini200"] Stopped reading once that was said.

nini200

Because I'm right?

They have some of the highest ranking software ever.

GTA 3 = 97
GTA 4 = 98
Bully for the Wii even scored 83

So yeah, I guess you're just saying I'm right and leaving it at that

[QUOTE="nini200"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Because I'm right?

They have some of the highest ranking software ever.

Jaysonguy

GTA 3 = 97
GTA 4 = 98
Bully for the Wii even scored 83

So yeah, I guess you're just saying I'm right and leaving it at that

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="nini200"] Yeah sure.

nini200

GTA 3 = 97
GTA 4 = 98
Bully for the Wii even scored 83

So yeah, I guess you're just saying I'm right and leaving it at that

Yes because for some reason you were unaware of Rockstar's track record which I do find interesting with this being a gaming site and all but I guess anything is possible. I did not know how bad a developer High Voltage was until I started to research all their titles.

all i know is that they managed to create an amazing engine for the wii. They are capable programmers...now lets just see if they can get the desig right this time.

[QUOTE="nini200"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

GTA 3 = 97
GTA 4 = 98
Bully for the Wii even scored 83

So yeah, I guess you're just saying I'm right and leaving it at that

Jaysonguy

Yes because for some reason you were unaware of Rockstar's track record which I do find interesting with this being a gaming site and all but I guess anything is possible. I did not know how bad a developer High Voltage was until I started to research all their titles.

High voltage software had more good games then just the conduit. They had there old game that made L4D what it is too day Hunter the reckoning

:lol: He goes and finds proof. :lol: Jaysonguy, you are a riot. Hi-Larry-Us!!! :lol:

nini200

He's right.

Just because you don't like Rockstar's titles doesn't mean they don't make quality software. Their software is successful commercial, critically and is a hit with audiences world wide.

I don't like Rockstar games either but I be one to say they don't make good product. You cannot say the same about HVS titles, especially Wii ones. The Conduit was unsuccessful commercially, unsuccessful critically (apart from obvious inflated scores, like IGN) and for the most part, was unsuccessful with the core Wii audience.

The same cannot be said about Rockstar titles like GTAIII.

[QUOTE="nini200"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

GTA 3 = 97
GTA 4 = 98
Bully for the Wii even scored 83

So yeah, I guess you're just saying I'm right and leaving it at that

Jaysonguy

Yes because for some reason you were unaware of Rockstar's track record which I do find interesting with this being a gaming site and all but I guess anything is possible. I did not know how bad a developer High Voltage was until I started to research all their titles.

i don't know if it crossed your mind, but you said it yourself, rockstar hasn't always provided highly praised software (and they still make some crap every now and then).

aren't you doing what a "jayson from the past" probably did with rockstar several years ago? rockstar tries to catch attention, delivers software below expectations twice, some random guy at wherever gamers talked about games before the internet got this popular starts saying rockstar is synonym of crap and will never, ever improve. fast forward a decade and we got you, saying that HVS has drawn attention to themselves, delivered software below expectations and will never, ever improve because they're synonym of crap.

now i'm not trying to defend or accuse them, but i honestly don't think the people that were at HVS when it was founded are the same responsible for their recent games. it's like expecting a sports team to always keep the same quality because of the team's name, regardless of who's inside.

[QUOTE="nini200"]:lol: He goes and finds proof. :lol: Jaysonguy, you are a riot. Hi-Larry-Us!!! :lol:

He's right.

Just because you don't like Rockstar's titles doesn't mean they don't make quality software. Their software is successful commercial, critically and is a hit with audiences world wide.

I don't like Rockstar games either but I be one to say they don't make good product. You cannot say the same about HVS titles, especially Wii ones. The Conduit was unsuccessful commercially, unsuccessful critically (apart from obvious inflated scores, like IGN) and for the most part, was unsuccessful with the core Wii audience.

The same cannot be said about Rockstar titles like GTAIII.

[QUOTE="nini200"]:lol: He goes and finds proof. :lol: Jaysonguy, you are a riot. Hi-Larry-Us!!! :lol:

He's right.

Just because you don't like Rockstar's titles doesn't mean they don't make quality software. Their software is successful commercial, critically and is a hit with audiences world wide.

I don't like Rockstar games either but I be one to say they don't make good product. You cannot say the same about HVS titles, especially Wii ones. The Conduit was unsuccessful commercially, unsuccessful critically (apart from obvious inflated scores, like IGN) and for the most part, was unsuccessful with the core Wii audience.

The same cannot be said about Rockstar titles like GTAIII.

[QUOTE="nini200"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

He's right.

Just because you don't like Rockstar's titles doesn't mean they don't make quality software. Their software is successful commercial, critically and is a hit with audiences world wide.

I don't like Rockstar games either but I be one to say they don't make good product. You cannot say the same about HVS titles, especially Wii ones. The Conduit was unsuccessful commercially, unsuccessful critically (apart from obvious inflated scores, like IGN) and for the most part, was unsuccessful with the core Wii audience.

The same cannot be said about Rockstar titles like GTAIII.

wiifan001

Yes because for some reason you were unaware of Rockstar's track record which I do find interesting with this being a gaming site and all but I guess anything is possible. I did not know how bad a developer High Voltage was until I started to research all their titles.

Jaysonguy

i don't know if it crossed your mind, but you said it yourself, rockstar hasn't always provided highly praised software (and they still make some crap every now and then).

aren't you doing what a "jayson from the past" probably did with rockstar several years ago? rockstar tries to catch attention, delivers software below expectations twice, some random guy at wherever gamers talked about games before the internet got this popular starts saying rockstar is synonym of crap and will never, ever improve. fast forward a decade and we got you, saying that HVS has drawn attention to themselves, delivered software below expectations and will never, ever improve because they're synonym of crap.

now i'm not trying to defend or accuse them, but i honestly don't think the people that were at HVS when it was founded are the same responsible for their recent games. it's like expecting a sports team to always keep the same quality because of the team's name, regardless of who's inside.

Wow, you're mighty ready to go on the offensive there aren't you Haziq? I realize the success of Rockstar, I just know that debating with Jaysonguy is like debating with a brick wall. Especially when it involves anything HVS. So I refuse to talk to a wall. I'd much rather get a good laugh in.nini200

On certain issues yes, but when it comes to HVS it's hard to support them with solid reasons. They haven't exactly done anything particularly well this generation nor have they done anything for the Wii.

[QUOTE="nini200"]Wow, you're mighty ready to go on the offensive there aren't you Haziq? I realize the success of Rockstar, I just know that debating with Jaysonguy is like debating with a brick wall. Especially when it involves anything HVS. So I refuse to talk to a wall. I'd much rather get a good laugh in.Haziqonfire

On certain issues yes, but when it comes to HVS it's hard to support them with solid reasons. They haven't exactly done anything particularly well this generation nor have they done anything for the Wii.

[QUOTE="nini200"]Wow, you're mighty ready to go on the offensive there aren't you Haziq? I realize the success of Rockstar, I just know that debating with Jaysonguy is like debating with a brick wall. Especially when it involves anything HVS. So I refuse to talk to a wall. I'd much rather get a good laugh in.Haziqonfire

On certain issues yes, but when it comes to HVS it's hard to support them with solid reasons. They haven't exactly done anything particularly well this generation nor have they done anything for the Wii.

Well, to give them some credit, I suppose, they were the first 3rd party developer to utilize wii speak in one of their games (The Conduit). Nothing major or anything but still something That's really all I can think of.wiifan001

The only thing I can think of is customizable control settings for Wii FPS - but I found it more of a hassle and it made everything more 'jittery' then it did smooth. Metroid Prime 3 just felt a lot better with it's advanced setting. I gave HVS a chance with Gyrostarr. Then The Conduit - but I'm not falling for it again.

even if conduit fails... i have hope for the grinder..the FPS version is exclusive to wii and ps360 get an inferior top down shooter...that alone makes me support HVS.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]Well, to give them some credit, I suppose, they were the first 3rd party developer to utilize wii speak in one of their games (The Conduit). Nothing major or anything but still something That's really all I can think of.Haziqonfire

The only thing I can think of is customizable control settings for Wii FPS - but I found it more of a hassle and it made everything more 'jittery' then it did smooth. Metroid Prime 3 just felt a lot better with it's advanced setting. I gave HVS a chance with Gyrostarr. Then The Conduit - but I'm not falling for it again.

Indeed.

I can't handle the speculation. Here or anywhere.

Conduit looked like it sucked from the demos and the packaging. I don't know why any others would be any different.

Except Conduit 2 looks like a HUGE Improvement from the Last.

I guess you wouldn't know if you never played the First Game.

I dunno. Alls I will say is that atleast they're not completely dishonest. They're allowed to sell their product, and they do it on the basis of true info. Good graphics (this is technically true) and good controls (true). And a few other basic things.

Nothing really wrong with talking the talk when you're spitting the truth and selling your creation.

Personally, I dislike their products, but I respect them for their efforts. When I play The Conduit, even though it sucks, I can see that they put some effort into it.

I'll keep an eye out for Conduit 2, but unless it's actually good thing time, I won't be buying it.

Except Conduit 2 looks like a HUGE Improvement from the Last.

I guess you wouldn't know if you never played the First Game.

I hope HVS createsConduit 2really well so people that hate this game like Jasonguy will slam there heads against the table all day longbecause the Conduit 2 got great when they didn't want it to.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Except Conduit 2 looks like a HUGE Improvement from the Last.

I guess you wouldn't know if you never played the First Game.

wiifan001

Do you want me to go on?Icuras08

[QUOTE="Icuras08"]Do you want me to go on?wiifan001