I just said 'wow' at Wii graphics - (regarding todays Brawl update)

I usually onlysay 'wow' when the game shown exceeds my expectations or exceeds what I thought the console is capable of. My standards for Wii graphics was lowered dramatically from E3. I knew Wii wasn't capable of 360, but I thought it could be capable of easily better visuals than Xbox and 2005 PC games.

Well this doesn't scream 'next-gen' but based on style points, this took me by suprise.

I'm now convinced that Brawl is one of the prettiest games on the system.

Just saw it myself. Not that impressed actually ... usually Smash Bros. models look better than their real game counterparts. This isn't the case with the Samus model. It looks like they took the Varia suit, put some green LEDs on it, and then drenched it in Turtlewax. This doesn't impress me. The Samus in Metroid Prime 3 does, though.

Don't get me wrong ... better than Smash Bros. 2? Yeah ... but heck, you can't even see inside the visor, and that was standard on Prime 2: Echoes! Just subpar for a Smash Bros. model, in my opinion.

Just saw it myself. Not that impressed actually ... usually Smash Bros. models look better than their real game counterparts. This isn't the case with the Samus model. It looks like they took the Varia suit, put some green LEDs on it, and then drenched it in Turtlewax. This doesn't impress me. The Samus in Metroid Prime 3 does, though.

Don't get me wrong ... better than Smash Bros. 2? Yeah ... but heck, you can't even see inside the visor, and that was standard on Prime 2: Echoes! Just subpar for a Smash Bros. model, in my opinion.

Havraha

That's strictly an opinion. I never thought that Smash Bro's had better looking versions than the ones created by Nintendo themselves. And looking through the visor has nothing to do with how good the graphics were. It's an art direction. More than likely, they INTENTIONALLY made it look solid. I've had my fair share with Maya 7 and the difference in translucence has nothing to do with how good the graphics are.

In my opinion, this model is very well detailed and built. Definitely different from Nintendo's version. But good all the same.

Just saw it myself. Not that impressed actually ... usually Smash Bros. models look better than their real game counterparts. This isn't the case with the Samus model. It looks like they took the Varia suit, put some green LEDs on it, and then drenched it in Turtlewax. This doesn't impress me. The Samus in Metroid Prime 3 does, though.

Don't get me wrong ... better than Smash Bros. 2? Yeah ... but heck, you can't even see inside the visor, and that was standard on Prime 2: Echoes! Just subpar for a Smash Bros. model, in my opinion.

Havraha

Really? I think it looks a little better than the Prime 1,2 series model. Also, that visor thing is a design choice, i don't see why they couldn't have put it in there.

Indeed, Smash Bros. seems like its surpassing everything else on the console head and shoulders as far as graphics and presentation are concerned.Demonic_Jin

apart from galaxy and RE:UC yeah I agree, looks good, i dunno why some people are comparing this to mp1 and 2 graphics..they were rubbish and nowhere near as good as this...

The textures on her suit are incredible. I might actually use Samus in this game.

Samus looks just like she did in Metroid Prime, just a little shinier.

Even Kirby has more of an update then her.

The graphics and music have been impressing me. I love the Ridley Boss Fight Music they have done, can't wait to hear the full song. The other updates are a bit "Meh..." because they are telling us what we already know, with little add-ons like the ability to slide on the boxes. "Weeeeeee...SMASH!"Odsplut

Yes! Thank you Nintendo (very sarcastic tone) for including the Ridley boss music just when i managed to get that tune out of my head. It makes me remember back to when Ridley handed my a$$ back to me for months whenplaying metroid back in the day (Cries,rolls up in the fetal posistion,shaking) Samus looks pretty cool but i hope there is a zero suit variant though

I told you all so. The wii graphics aren't HD, but they are planty good enough for great graphics. Actually i prefer non-Hd, i played gears of war and it made my eyes bleed.groudyogre

I LOL'd myself

I'm stoked about the crates shifting down hills and such! Thats something that SC2 is boasting about and it's (albeit in a simpler fashion) in Brawl!

I think the game will look beautiful and comparing these graphics with PS3 and 360 is apples and oranges! The Wii has a much wider range of whimsical colorful graphics. PS3 and 360 use a lot of grays and try to get make the games as realistic looking as possible. IT'S A GAME! DON'T TRY TO BRING ME INTO REALITY WHEN I'M TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM IT!

I'm stoked about the crates shifting down hills and such! Thats something that SC2 is boasting about and it's (albeit in a simpler fashion) in Brawl!

I think the game will look beautiful and comparing these graphics with PS3 and 360 is apples and oranges! The Wii has a much wider range of whimsical colorful graphics. PS3 and 360 use a lot of grays and try to get make the games as realistic looking as possible. IT'S A GAME! DON'T TRY TO BRING ME INTO REALITY WHEN I'M TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM IT!

effthat

The Wii has morecolors than the PS3 and 360? Do you fanboys even listen to yourself talk?

[QUOTE="effthat"]

I'm stoked about the crates shifting down hills and such! Thats something that SC2 is boasting about and it's (albeit in a simpler fashion) in Brawl!

I think the game will look beautiful and comparing these graphics with PS3 and 360 is apples and oranges! The Wii has a much wider range of whimsical colorful graphics. PS3 and 360 use a lot of grays and try to get make the games as realistic looking as possible. IT'S A GAME! DON'T TRY TO BRING ME INTO REALITY WHEN I'M TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM IT!

Hyper_Shado

The Wii has morecolors than the PS3 and 360? Do you fanboys even listen to yourself talk?

"wider range of whimsical colorful graphics" I didn't say it was capable of more colors...I said they use more color. Look at any game in the Mario series! Monkey ball! Wind Waker! Metroid!

Nintendo games are affiliated with brighter colors and contrast! (Thus the "kiddie" image). Don't call me out for something I didn't say!

[QUOTE="effthat"]

I'm stoked about the crates shifting down hills and such! Thats something that SC2 is boasting about and it's (albeit in a simpler fashion) in Brawl!

I think the game will look beautiful and comparing these graphics with PS3 and 360 is apples and oranges! The Wii has a much wider range of whimsical colorful graphics. PS3 and 360 use a lot of grays and try to get make the games as realistic looking as possible. IT'S A GAME! DON'T TRY TO BRING ME INTO REALITY WHEN I'M TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM IT!

Hyper_Shado

The Wii has morecolors than the PS3 and 360? Do you fanboys even listen to yourself talk?

No, they don't. They're blind AND deaf, I guess. X_X I suspect the lord of fanboys, Fanboyadus, gives them the power to post by channeling his magical energies.

To Effthat: Uhm, try Viva Pinata. You don't get much more colorful than that, cept' for one OTHER XBOX360 game. That game being Eternal Sonata. Go watch some trailers for them, there are quite a few on Gamevideos.com

[QUOTE="Hyper_Shado"][QUOTE="effthat"]

I'm stoked about the crates shifting down hills and such! Thats something that SC2 is boasting about and it's (albeit in a simpler fashion) in Brawl!

I think the game will look beautiful and comparing these graphics with PS3 and 360 is apples and oranges! The Wii has a much wider range of whimsical colorful graphics. PS3 and 360 use a lot of grays and try to get make the games as realistic looking as possible. IT'S A GAME! DON'T TRY TO BRING ME INTO REALITY WHEN I'M TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM IT!

effthat

The Wii has morecolors than the PS3 and 360? Do you fanboys even listen to yourself talk?

"wider range of whimsical colorful graphics" I didn't say it was capable of more colors...I said they use more color. Look at any game in the Mario series! Monkey ball! Wind Waker! Metroid!

Nintendo games are affiliated with brighter colors and contrast! (Thus the "kiddie" image). Don't call me out for something I didn't say!

That's what you said though. You said the Wii has a wide range of graphical colors, and that the PS3 and 360 only use "a lot of grays". You didn't say "omg wii GAMES are kiddy and colorful, etc.". Next time phrase your posts correctly so you don't end up looking like an idiot.

[QUOTE="Hyper_Shado"][QUOTE="effthat"]

I'm stoked about the crates shifting down hills and such! Thats something that SC2 is boasting about and it's (albeit in a simpler fashion) in Brawl!

I think the game will look beautiful and comparing these graphics with PS3 and 360 is apples and oranges! The Wii has a much wider range of whimsical colorful graphics. PS3 and 360 use a lot of grays and try to get make the games as realistic looking as possible. IT'S A GAME! DON'T TRY TO BRING ME INTO REALITY WHEN I'M TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM IT!

effthat

The Wii has morecolors than the PS3 and 360? Do you fanboys even listen to yourself talk?

"wider range of whimsical colorful graphics" I didn't say it was capable of more colors...I said they use more color. Look at any game in the Mario series! Monkey ball! Wind Waker! Metroid!

Nintendo games are affiliated with brighter colors and contrast! (Thus the "kiddie" image). Don't call me out for something I didn't say!

Again, for christs sake, look at Viva Pinata and Eternal Sonata, they both kick the crap out of every Wii game available right now in terms of variety of colors, how vibrant they are, and color depth.

Two games compared to how many on the Wii?

I checked out the screen shots for Viva Pinata and I'm not impressed. Yoshi's Island (3 generations ago) used that same palette section and pulled it off much better.

Two games compared to how many on the Wii?

I checked out the screen shots for Viva Pinata and I'm not impressed. Yoshi's Island (3 generations ago) used that same palette section and pulled it off much better.

effthat

First of all, hardly any non-Nintendo games have the "whimsical colors" you're talking about. A lot of them just look like crap.

Second, that's flawless logic there. Say all the 360/PS3 games look bland, then when someone brings up a counterexample just write it off as "unimpressive."

[QUOTE="groudyogre"]I told you all so. The wii graphics aren't HD, but they are planty good enough for great graphics. Actually i prefer non-Hd, i played gears of war and it made my eyes bleed.Hyper_Shado

I LOL'd myself

actually even though i found gears graphics pretty and interesting to look at just like splinter cell if u turn off he lights it doesnt make a lick of diffrence if the graphics are ugly or amazing

Samus looks just like she did in Metroid Prime, just a little shinier.

Even Kirby has more of an update then her.

Hyper_Shado

They look diffrent

Galaxy still looks way better.Wintry_Flutist

indeed they are differant models prime and this but it doesn't matter, this game CAN'T push the wii to it's limit, it's sadly something that may get in the way of it's speed

Think how hectic the game gets, and all of that has to happpen without slowdown, it's going to PLAY amazingly, but it will look pretty, but not WOWish

[QUOTE="effthat"]

Two games compared to how many on the Wii?

I checked out the screen shots for Viva Pinata and I'm not impressed. Yoshi's Island (3 generations ago) used that same palette section and pulled it off much better.

Hyper_Shado

First of all, hardly any non-Nintendo games have the "whimsical colors" you're talking about. A lot of them just look like crap.

Second, that's flawless logic there. Say all the 360/PS3 games look bland, then when someone brings up a counterexample just write it off as "unimpressive."

I think what he meant by was that the art direction used in mnay 360/PS3 games are geared more as monotonous. IMO, I love that tone and I wish Nintendo used it more often. Makes the game much grittier.

Secondly... Nintendo has been known to have their games more directed toward a large audience. Any the art direction chosen for many of their games is usually a palette than most children and parents would approve of.

I dont have a problem with that either. Specifically though. PS3, Xbox 360, and the Wii can't do better than each other in the field of colors. Why do I say that? Because 1: it's really dependent on the TV, if it can display tru 16.7 million colors. 2: The color depth in all of the system's graphics cards are standard 8-bit.

Technically, one is just as capable of producing as much color as the other guy. It's just the art direction which most fail to mention.

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[QUOTE="groudyogre"]I told you all so. The wii graphics aren't HD, but they are planty good enough for great graphics. Actually i prefer non-Hd, i played gears of war and it made my eyes bleed.Serraph105

I LOL'd myself

actually even though i found gears graphics pretty and interesting to look at just like splinter cell if u turn off he lights it doesnt make a lick of diffrence if the graphics are ugly or amazing

Somewhat true.

I mean, when I played GoW, I was still going like... Hot damn, those graphics are killer.... But I was still trying to pay attention to the game and not get distracted by its graphics.

On the other hand, for the Wii, I really could care less about the graphics. I've seen it over and over. So I'm used to it. I don't have a problem with it. I just wish Wii could still compete at least somewhat with 360 and PS3.

Just saw it myself. Not that impressed actually ... usually Smash Bros. models look better than their real game counterparts. This isn't the case with the Samus model. It looks like they took the Varia suit, put some green LEDs on it, and then drenched it in Turtlewax. This doesn't impress me. The Samus in Metroid Prime 3 does, though.

Don't get me wrong ... better than Smash Bros. 2? Yeah ... but heck, you can't even see inside the visor, and that was standard on Prime 2: Echoes! Just subpar for a Smash Bros. model, in my opinion.

Havraha

Super Smash Bros Melee's Samus looked like crap compared to MP1's samus so,there you go... And...and! Samus looks more mysterious and more bad-ass when you can't see her eyes......So, there!Your right about MP3's samus though... she's looking extra sexy...

SSBB doesn't look like it has shadows... Come on..Relys

I see shadows.

The point is this game is looking very pretty. Now lets all stop fighting and talk about how sweet Zack and Wiki is gonna be...ColonialMustard

LOL have you been listening to the IGN wii podcast:P?

Just saw it myself. Not that impressed actually ... usually Smash Bros. models look better than their real game counterparts. This isn't the case with the Samus model. It looks like they took the Varia suit, put some green LEDs on it, and then drenched it in Turtlewax. This doesn't impress me. The Samus in Metroid Prime 3 does, though.

Don't get me wrong ... better than Smash Bros. 2? Yeah ... but heck, you can't even see inside the visor, and that was standard on Prime 2: Echoes! Just subpar for a Smash Bros. model, in my opinion.

Havraha

Umm no they don't?

yeah bro...i dont think any model looked better in sbm then in there respective gc games.

[QUOTE="Hyper_Shado"][QUOTE="effthat"]

I'm stoked about the crates shifting down hills and such! Thats something that SC2 is boasting about and it's (albeit in a simpler fashion) in Brawl!

I think the game will look beautiful and comparing these graphics with PS3 and 360 is apples and oranges! The Wii has a much wider range of whimsical colorful graphics. PS3 and 360 use a lot of grays and try to get make the games as realistic looking as possible. IT'S A GAME! DON'T TRY TO BRING ME INTO REALITY WHEN I'M TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM IT!

effthat

The Wii has morecolors than the PS3 and 360? Do you fanboys even listen to yourself talk?

"wider range of whimsical colorful graphics" I didn't say it was capable of more colors...I said they use more color. Look at any game in the Mario series! Monkey ball! Wind Waker! Metroid!

Nintendo games are affiliated with brighter colors and contrast! (Thus the "kiddie" image). Don't call me out for something I didn't say!

I suggest you take a look at Little Big Planet for the PS3.