I love you Nintendo... but you're not looking out for ages 13+...

Now it comes with the brand; everyone knows that Nintendo is the more "family friendly" of the big three, however this year's line up is just... ridiculous. Aside from LoZ (which is an E game anyway), the two Resident Evil games, and MGS: 3 (which probably won't even come out this year), there is nada in the way of gaming outside of Sponge Bob, the ever so persident Lego games (hate), and the bastardized Tom Clancy games (Rated T... *great*...).

Hear me out - I'm not saying every game has to be rated M with zombies, guns, and boobs but some of these games are clearly meant for ages 12 and below... I understand it's a bit to early to complain, and obvoiusly Nintendo will get to releasing game that are more targeted to adults but this years looks like Disney World, save for a few titles.

Does this bother anyone else?

BTW: Pokemon, LoZ, Animal Crossing, Mario are all good! But medial games such as Sponge Bob, Lego Starwars, and the like are not... well to the population of Teens and adults.

You can get all the mature rated titles from Sony and Microsofts systems. What makes Nintendo special, and part of the reason I love them, is that they DON'T cater to games with tons of violence, blood and guts, drugs, sex, and all that other stuff. Sure, I enjoy a "mature" game just as much as the next guy, but on the flip side of the same coin I like that I can always count on Nintendo to deliever super fun games (emphasis on the fun) that I don't have to be worried about playing in front of say, my little sisters. In fact, they can even join in. Nintendo is a lot like Disney in it's prime when Walt was involved. It was high quality, wholesome entertainment that was extremely imaginitive and artistic at the same time. Also, Nintendo really is the worst company to come to for third party support. They are known best for their first party titles, which you've already mentioned are good games. The NGP might be more your speed.

It probably bothers people in that awkward spot in their teens where they feel that Nintendo stuff isn't suitable for adults, and that games like God of War are mature (when it is nothing of the sort).

If you want some violent games and have other consoles, you may as well make do with them for now and wait it out. The Resi game (the Mercenaries one) is out around June, didn't seem that interesting to me (I'd imagine Revelations is likely to be a much better game). I'm not a big Resi fan, and it may just have been a bad impression from the demo, but it felt like it was just the combat section of a real Resi game (ie Revelations) with waves of enemies coming at you.

It's like 2 days since it launched in the US and 4 days since Europe, I think it's a bit early to be complaining to be honest. You're never going to get as many graphically violent games, or games full of swearing or titted demons or whatever on Nintendo consoles, but there will no doubt be a few decent ones for those who are interested nearer the time. I don't mean to disparage that stuff, violent games are often fun, but I don't want to see Nintendo doing any of that stuff in their first party games, and I just tend to think more of Sony consoles when I fancy playing a game of that type personally.

Also, Lego Star Wars games are better than you give them credit for. Fair enough if you don't like them, but you not liking them doesn't make them bad, or inappropriate for anyone who isn't a child.

You can get all the mature rated titles from Sony and Microsofts systems. What makes Nintendo special, and part of the reason I love them, is that they DON'T cater to games with tons of violence, blood and guts, drugs, sex, and all that other stuff. Sure, I enjoy a "mature" game just as much as the next guy, but on the flip side of the same coin I like that I can always count on Nintendo to deliever super fun games (emphasis on the fun) that I don't have to be worried about playing in front of say, my little sisters. In fact, they can even join in. Nintendo is a lot like Disney in it's prime when Walt was involved. It was high quality, wholesome entertainment that was extremely imaginitive and artistic at the same time. Also, Nintendo really is the worst company to come to for third party support. They are known best for their first party titles, which you've already mentioned are good games. The NGP might be more your speed.

SirusCoven

It probably bothers people in that awkward spot in their teens where they feel that Nintendo stuff isn't suitable for adults, and that games like God of War are mature (when it is nothing of the sort).

If you want some violent games and have other consoles, you may as well make do with them for now and wait it out. The Resi game (the Mercenaries one) is out around June, didn't seem that interesting to me (I'd imagine Revelations is likely to be a much better game). I'm not a big Resi fan, and it may just have been a bad impression from the demo, but it felt like it was just the combat section of a real Resi game (ie Revelations) with waves of enemies coming at you.

It's like 2 days since it launched in the US and 4 days since Europe, I think it's a bit early to be complaining to be honest. You're never going to get as many graphically violent games, or games full of swearing or titted demons or whatever on Nintendo games, but there will no doubt be a few decent ones for those who are interested nearer the time.

Also, Lego Star Wars games are better than you give them credit for. Fair enough if you don't like them, but you not liking them doesn't make them bad, or inappropriate for anyone who isn't a child.

[QUOTE="SirusCoven"]

You can get all the mature rated titles from Sony and Microsofts systems. What makes Nintendo special, and part of the reason I love them, is that they DON'T cater to games with tons of violence, blood and guts, drugs, sex, and all that other stuff. Sure, I enjoy a "mature" game just as much as the next guy, but on the flip side of the same coin I like that I can always count on Nintendo to deliever super fun games (emphasis on the fun) that I don't have to be worried about playing in front of say, my little sisters. In fact, they can even join in. Nintendo is a lot like Disney in it's prime when Walt was involved. It was high quality, wholesome entertainment that was extremely imaginitive and artistic at the same time. Also, Nintendo really is the worst company to come to for third party support. They are known best for their first party titles, which you've already mentioned are good games. The NGP might be more your speed.

300Suns

It probably bothers people in that awkward spot in their teens where they feel that Nintendo stuff isn't suitable for adults, and that games like God of War are mature (when it is nothing of the sort).

If you want some violent games and have other consoles, you may as well make do with them for now and wait it out. The Resi game (the Mercenaries one) is out around June, didn't seem that interesting to me (I'd imagine Revelations is likely to be a much better game). I'm not a big Resi fan, and it may just have been a bad impression from the demo, but it felt like it was just the combat section of a real Resi game (ie Revelations) with waves of enemies coming at you.

It's like 2 days since it launched in the US and 4 days since Europe, I think it's a bit early to be complaining to be honest. You're never going to get as many graphically violent games, or games full of swearing or titted demons or whatever on Nintendo games, but there will no doubt be a few decent ones for those who are interested nearer the time.

Also, Lego Star Wars games are better than you give them credit for. Fair enough if you don't like them, but you not liking them doesn't make them bad, or inappropriate for anyone who isn't a child.

[QUOTE="300Suns"][QUOTE="SirusCoven"]

You can get all the mature rated titles from Sony and Microsofts systems. What makes Nintendo special, and part of the reason I love them, is that they DON'T cater to games with tons of violence, blood and guts, drugs, sex, and all that other stuff. Sure, I enjoy a "mature" game just as much as the next guy, but on the flip side of the same coin I like that I can always count on Nintendo to deliever super fun games (emphasis on the fun) that I don't have to be worried about playing in front of say, my little sisters. In fact, they can even join in. Nintendo is a lot like Disney in it's prime when Walt was involved. It was high quality, wholesome entertainment that was extremely imaginitive and artistic at the same time. Also, Nintendo really is the worst company to come to for third party support. They are known best for their first party titles, which you've already mentioned are good games. The NGP might be more your speed.

BrunoBRS

Good advice :) but it just annoys me. Thesummer gaming drought hits Nintendo the hardest. :/

Isn't what you'd be seen dead playing kind of subjective? Theres a Street Fighter game, Pilotwings, sports games, Ghost Recon etc. Surely those sorts of things aren't too kiddy (again, fair enough if it's not what you're into, but I wouldn't call those kiddy).

Again, the thing's barely been out 5 minutes, most systems take time to get going, and Nintendo are more inclined to put out games for all ages. Adults only games are gonna be more thinly spread than on other consoles, as they always are.

Isn't what you'd be seen dead playing kind of subjective? Theres a Street Fighter game, Pilotwings, sports games, Ghost Recon etc. Surely those sorts of things aren't too kiddy (again, fair enough if it's not what you're into, but I wouldn't call those kiddy).

Again, the thing's barely been out 5 minutes, most systems take time to get going, and Nintendo are more inclined to put out games for all ages.

midisurfmind

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="300Suns"] lol, I'm pretty sure the NPG is not "my speed" :P... sony hand-helds suck. I'll gladly take quality over a game rating any day :P I'm just saying that I hope the 3rd parties don't stink up the 3DS with cheap, washed out Cartoon Network and Movie based games... Not only do they appeal to the minority (I *think*) they are not by any means technically "Good". You're entitled to your opinion but I doubt you'll find anyone who would take Sponge Bob over GTA China Town wars... All I'm saying.300Suns

Good advice :) but it just annoys me. Thesummer gaming drought hits Nintendo the hardest. :/

They always have games like Resi, Madworld, Dementium, Chinatown Wars, House of the Dead: Overkill etc which don't exactly tow the line of good taste. They're definitely more thinly spread as I say, and there is always room for more, but I think that among traditional gamers, most will be buying the system for the typical Nintendo franchises, RPGs and so on. I'd imagine some games with genuinely mature themes or complex storylines will come out, but the more complex the game, the longer it's likely to take to design and make etc.

If anything the 3DS seems pretty promising compared to the way software was being released for the Wii, to me at least.

They always have games like Resi, Madworld, Dementium, Chinatown Wars, House of the Dead: Overkill etc which don't exactly tow the line of good taste. They're definitely more thinly spread as I say, and there is always room for more, but I think that among traditional gamers, most will be buying the system for the typical Nintendo franchises, RPGs and so on.

If anything the 3DS seems pretty promising compared to the way software was being released for the Wii, to me at least.

midisurfmind

I agree for the most part! Loz, Paper Mario and MGS are some of the MAJOR pull factors for me, not to mention the awesome extra software features, plus 3D, duh :D

But I hope with the NGP coming out we won't see a major shift in player age, if that's the case, there won't be much hope for other MGS, RE, and other titles of the like.

Blood, violence, and swearing =/= fun. I'm 34 and I fully enjoy the Lego games. I really do not care what the ESRB rates Mario or Zelda games... I love them. So... yeah, whatever. If you want to blow heads off while your character calls everyone an MF'er and uses the word "Dick" in a million annoying ways then DON'T BUY A NINTENDO PRODUCT. Go play bulletstorm and act like it's an awesome game because it swears a lot.

for years ppl have been complaining that Nintendo never pushes out "mature", "hardcore" games, and finnally when they do...ppl still complain? this kinda....ticks me off honestly. no offense TC.

You can get all the mature rated titles from Sony and Microsofts systems. What makes Nintendo special, and part of the reason I love them, is that they DON'T cater to games with tons of violence, blood and guts, drugs, sex, and all that other stuff. Sure, I enjoy a "mature" game just as much as the next guy, but on the flip side of the same coin I like that I can always count on Nintendo to deliever super fun games (emphasis on the fun) that I don't have to be worried about playing in front of say, my little sisters. In fact, they can even join in. Nintendo is a lot like Disney in it's prime when Walt was involved. It was high quality, wholesome entertainment that was extremely imaginitive and artistic at the same time. Also, Nintendo really is the worst company to come to for third party support. They are known best for their first party titles, which you've already mentioned are good games. The NGP might be more your speed.

SirusCoven

They definately did pay for exclusivity or the Resident Evil GC games and Tales of Symphonia (well it has tons violence as there are battles).

Also they own Eternal Darkness...

Microsoft and Sony both make games that cater too a younger demographic as well.

So your worried of playing Ape Escape or Viva Pinata in front of your sisters?

So games on the Xbox or playstation are not wholesome entertainment, imaginative, and artistic?

Blood, violence, and swearing =/= fun. I'm 34 and I fully enjoy the Lego games. I really do not care what the ESRB rates Mario or Zelda games... I love them. So... yeah, whatever. If you want to blow heads off while your character calls everyone an MF'er and uses the word "Dick" in a million annoying ways then DON'T BUY A NINTENDO PRODUCT. Go play bulletstorm and act like it's an awesome game because it swears a lot.

decepticondevil

Neither does not having Blood, violence, and swearing =/= fun. imo.

Technically if someone has fun watching blood violence and listening to swearing who are you to tell them that is does not factually = fun when it is their opinion.

Also Nintendo has games with blood, violence, and swearing on their console and even own the excellent IP Eternal Darkness. There are great games imo featuring blood, violence, and swearing and not featuring them.

Also OP why does it bother you if the 3DS has games based on shows like Spongebob?

[QUOTE="SirusCoven"]

You can get all the mature rated titles from Sony and Microsofts systems. What makes Nintendo special, and part of the reason I love them, is that they DON'T cater to games with tons of violence, blood and guts, drugs, sex, and all that other stuff. Sure, I enjoy a "mature" game just as much as the next guy, but on the flip side of the same coin I like that I can always count on Nintendo to deliever super fun games (emphasis on the fun) that I don't have to be worried about playing in front of say, my little sisters. In fact, they can even join in. Nintendo is a lot like Disney in it's prime when Walt was involved. It was high quality, wholesome entertainment that was extremely imaginitive and artistic at the same time. Also, Nintendo really is the worst company to come to for third party support. They are known best for their first party titles, which you've already mentioned are good games. The NGP might be more your speed.

Banjo_Kongfooie

They definately did pay for exclusivity or the Resident Evil GC games and Tales of Symphonia (well it has tons violence as there are battles).

Also they own Eternal Darkness...

Microsoft and Sony both make games that cater too a younger demographic as well.

So your worried of playing Ape Escape or Viva Pinata in front of your sisters?

So games on the Xbox or playstation are not wholesome entertainment, imaginative, and artistic?

lol "wholesome" this is horribly off topic but it annoys me that most parents shelter their children from "violent" video games but encourage them to kill brain cells watching sponge bob and cartoon network. I was only 14 or 15 when MGS: 3 came out and I got more out of that game, artistically, then I would ever from mario :P NOT THAT MARIO IS BAD!!! Just that "violent" games sadly carry that stigma...

lol its not just sponge bob xD sorry but it was the only franchise that is indeed on all nintendo consoles xD i love sponge bob but the games he is marketed through suck and as I said, fill the market place with crappy games.

As long as they bring out a portable 2d Mortal Kombat game rated M, all is forgiven.

Now it comes with the brand; everyone knows that Nintendo is the more "family friendly" of the big three, however this year's line up is just... ridiculous. Aside from LoZ (which is an E game anyway), the two Resident Evil games, and MGS: 3 (which probably won't even come out this year), there is nada in the way of gaming outside of Sponge Bob, the ever so persident Lego games (hate), and the bastardized Tom Clancy games (Rated T... *great*...).

Hear me out - I'm not saying every game has to be rated M with zombies, guns, and boobs but some of these games are clearly meant for ages 12 and below... I understand it's a bit to early to complain, and obvoiusly Nintendo will get to releasing game that are more targeted to adults but this years looks like Disney World, save for a few titles.

Does this bother anyone else?

BTW: Pokemon, LoZ, Animal Crossing, Mario are all good! But medial games such as Sponge Bob, Lego Starwars, and the like are not... well to the population of Teens and adults.

300Suns

kay... I give up forcing people to read my other posts... you miss the point entirely

then go play a sony handheld, no one says you have to buy a 3ds

Nintendo has NEVER really catered to 13+ gamers. I don't understand how this is a new thing.

It probably bothers people in that awkward spot in their teens where they feel that Nintendo stuff isn't suitable for adults, and that games like God of War are mature (when it is nothing of the sort).

If you want some violent games and have other consoles, you may as well make do with them for now and wait it out. The Resi game (the Mercenaries one) is out around June, didn't seem that interesting to me (I'd imagine Revelations is likely to be a much better game). I'm not a big Resi fan, and it may just have been a bad impression from the demo, but it felt like it was just the combat section of a real Resi game (ie Revelations) with waves of enemies coming at you.

It's like 2 days since it launched in the US and 4 days since Europe, I think it's a bit early to be complaining to be honest. You're never going to get as many graphically violent games, or games full of swearing or titted demons or whatever on Nintendo consoles, but there will no doubt be a few decent ones for those who are interested nearer the time. I don't mean to disparage that stuff, violent games are often fun, but I don't want to see Nintendo doing any of that stuff in their first party games, and I just tend to think more of Sony consoles when I fancy playing a game of that type personally.

Also, Lego Star Wars games are better than you give them credit for. Fair enough if you don't like them, but you not liking them doesn't make them bad, or inappropriate for anyone who isn't a child.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]

[QUOTE="SirusCoven"]

You can get all the mature rated titles from Sony and Microsofts systems. What makes Nintendo special, and part of the reason I love them, is that they DON'T cater to games with tons of violence, blood and guts, drugs, sex, and all that other stuff. Sure, I enjoy a "mature" game just as much as the next guy, but on the flip side of the same coin I like that I can always count on Nintendo to deliever super fun games (emphasis on the fun) that I don't have to be worried about playing in front of say, my little sisters. In fact, they can even join in. Nintendo is a lot like Disney in it's prime when Walt was involved. It was high quality, wholesome entertainment that was extremely imaginitive and artistic at the same time. Also, Nintendo really is the worst company to come to for third party support. They are known best for their first party titles, which you've already mentioned are good games. The NGP might be more your speed.

300Suns

They definately did pay for exclusivity or the Resident Evil GC games and Tales of Symphonia (well it has tons violence as there are battles).

Also they own Eternal Darkness...

Microsoft and Sony both make games that cater too a younger demographic as well.

So your worried of playing Ape Escape or Viva Pinata in front of your sisters?

So games on the Xbox or playstation are not wholesome entertainment, imaginative, and artistic?

lol "wholesome" this is horribly off topic but it annoys me that most parents shelter their children from "violent" video games but encourage them to kill brain cells watching sponge bob and cartoon network. I was only 14 or 15 when MGS: 3 came out and I got more out of that game, artistically, then I would ever from mario :P NOT THAT MARIO IS BAD!!! Just that "violent" games sadly carry that stigma...

Well it depends on the person playing MGS but I agree that violent video games get labeled as not being artistic artistic.

Cartoons also have messages though and can encourage imagination and developement as well but I agree with your point that a game being violent does not make in not artistic as violence is present in many classics in literature and even in non-violent games (though very mild like hopping on goomba heads)

As long as they bring out a portable 2d Mortal Kombat game rated M, all is forgiven.

SRTtoZ

then go play a sony handheld, no one says you have to buy a 3ds

dalscowboys22

Nintendo is for everyone, not just kids. But apparently you feel that games with lots of killing and realistic graphics are more mature than others.

And perhaps that is the most immature thing of all.

I'm 23 and there is no single launch title I wouldn't play because it's *too kiddy* or something like that oO Which games do you, TC, think can't be played at age 13+?

I think that's just how Nintendo generally is. Outside of some of the earlier Fire Emblem games, segments of Mother 3 (which were hardly adult oriented) and the recent Metroid games, I wouldn't count on Nintendo to create something intended solely for the 13+ audience.

Edit: Also, don't buy a system on a leap of faith. The hardware itself isn't going anywhere and you should wait until you can see one side clearly has software that better appeals to you.

I think I'm starting to grasp your point, TC. You don't want the 3DS to have all the "kiddy shovelware" like Bee Movie and Petz like the DS has. Right? Crappy TV/Movie games are a staple in gaming and the 3DS isn't going to be immune to it, but neither are the other systems. All systems got Legend of the Guardians, Thor, and Captain America. They sell and don't take nearly the resources an original ip does. As for "kiddy games" I'm glad they excite. I was excited to see the 5 year old at TRU with his new 3Ds tell his dad he wanted Nintendogs and Pilotwings. He has every right to enjoy his games as I do my copies of SFIV, RR, Steel Diver, and Lego SW III. Having games appropriate for younger gamers did not stop quality games for core gamers from being on the DS so I expect nothing different for the 3DS.

I just don't see what the complaint is based on the launch titles. You say that it's not really about M rated games. If that's the case, I don't really how a bunch of E and E10+ games are not looking out for older gamers. Are we not allowed to enjoy Ridge Racer or Lego Star Wars or Steel Diver or Rayman?

Now it comes with the brand; everyone knows that Nintendo is the more "family friendly" of the big three, however this year's line up is just... ridiculous. Aside from LoZ (which is an E game anyway), the two Resident Evil games, and MGS: 3 (which probably won't even come out this year), there is nada in the way of gaming outside of Sponge Bob, the ever so persident Lego games (hate), and the bastardized Tom Clancy games (Rated T... *great*...).

Hear me out - I'm not saying every game has to be rated M with zombies, guns, and boobs but some of these games are clearly meant for ages 12 and below... I understand it's a bit to early to complain, and obvoiusly Nintendo will get to releasing game that are more targeted to adults but this years looks like Disney World, save for a few titles.

Does this bother anyone else?

BTW: Pokemon, LoZ, Animal Crossing, Mario are all good! But medial games such as Sponge Bob, Lego Starwars, and the like are not... well to the population of Teens and adults.

300Suns

Nintendo is for everyone, not just kids. But apparently you feel that games with lots of killing and realistic graphics are more mature than others.

And perhaps that is the most immature thing of all.

I'm 23 and there is no single launch title I wouldn't play because it's *too kiddy* or something like that oO Which games do you, TC, think can't be played at age 13+?

ArchoNils2

Good god. It's like watching blind archery at the special olympics- everyone lined up so far has missed the point. OP is complaining about the eventual slew of shovelware, not a lack of blood and sex games.El_Zo1212o

Too many good games to care what they're rated, so whatever floats your boat. If you don't like Nintendo's offerings, maybe you should look into competitors. I'm perfectly fine with Nintendo's offerings though.

I know that you'r talking about shovelware, but I think that devs are being better to ages 13+ with the 3DS. Soon we will be getting Metal Gear, Assassins Creed, Resident Evil, Dead or Alive, Kingdom Hearts( looks "kiddy" but it's a great series), Kid Icarus, Phoenix Wright, Ninja Gaiden... Want me to keep going?Dusty8

the thread made about the age of people buying the 3ds proves your argument is completely off TC... its mostly adults buying it.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/28416427/3ds-owner-ages?tag=topics%3Btitle

TC is correct, once you get about 13+ Nintendo could care less about you, you are no longer part of their demographic.

The thing about shovelware is that it will appear on EVERY popular system. Do you realize how many spongebob, and hannah montana games were on the DS? Shovleware shouldn't really bother you that much, its easy to ignore it