I propose the list of dumb***ed developers.

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#1 Michael85
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And I propose that Konami be added to that list:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6172636.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;1

Did I miss something? No, I surely didn't. I think Konami missed something, but what was it...? Oh yeah, the FRICKIN' NPD FOR THE LAST 8 MONTHS. What the hell does Nintendo have to do to get some support?! They're GOING to have the largest userbase by the end of the year and yet certain high-profile 3rd parties are just shrugging it off.

You know what I hope happens? I hope some up and coming developers make the big games this generation. It's my opinion that 3rd parties have become arrogant with their titles and they need to be bested and humiliated. Obviously, these companies have become too comfortable developing in their powerhoused, button-reliant environments; they don't want to think outside the box anymore.

Makes me sick.

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#2 JustWiicredible
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True. 3rd party developers have become lazy and it's gonna cost them.
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#3 Jonnyd108
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Ubisoft... worst one yet, especially with the crap they've put out on the wii so far (except maybe Rayman but even the graphics are half assed in that... for example: when your in the stadium and the audience rabbits are just flat and paper-thin and have two frames of animation... yea... that's just bad)
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#4 JustWiicredible
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Ubisoft are typically useless a couple of intresting titles aside they just rely on shovelware and the Tom clancy titles which they plow $$$$ into each year for more of the same!
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#5 Sepewrath
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Well some devs just dont want to put in the effort to come up with something new, it is easy to just push graphics to the next level. It doesnt take any though or originality, pushing gaming experience is a whole new world, that some devs just arent willing to visit.
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did you ever stop to think maybe konami didnt want to risk making pes for wii? maybe they thought, hmm whats the point wasting time on it, i don't think the controller fits it well, i know we'll make an exclusive game for wii, of another genre that better fits...at least stop to listen to their side of the argument before saying they suck...

as for crappy developers i say activision, just for spiderman 3, and ubisoft, for all their ports...

Juswiicredible, i know what you mean about the tom clancy games but they are good and the latest splinter cell looks amazing, so you were kind of wrong there...

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#7 TacticalElefant
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Yeah Ubisoft should be at the top of the list for the worst effort in making Wii games. Although it's funny that the worst looking and running FPS on the Wii so far - Far Cry Vengence, actually has the best controls of any Wii FPS so far.
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For people directly bashing companies like ubisoft and EA etc. You do know that 9 times out of 10 they dont actualy make the games? They just publish them. they buy up what they're impressed with, somones bound to make the wii shine pretty soon. I got the wii on saturday, excellent console. So far the ports havent bothered me since I missed a lot of them when my ps2 died a while ago and I never realy got into the gamecube other than smash bros and mario kart.
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did you ever stop to think maybe konami didnt want to risk making pes for wii? maybe they thought, hmm whats the point wasting time on it, i don't think the controller fits it well, i know we'll make an exclusive game for wii, of another genre that better fits...at least stop to listen to their side of the argument before saying they suck...bobbetybob

Well that is the problem with gaming now, nobody wants to take a risk anymore. everyone is fine with just shoveling out the same ol' because it is the safest route. Thats one reason I am extremely happy the Wii is selling so much, it will send the message that risk is necessary, and can be worth it. I mean risk is what brough forth the home console buisness in the first place, most companies have seem to have forgotten that.

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#11 Wiitendo64
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Good points all around. But did you notice that their's one developer that almost never fails to deliever great games. Thats Squa-......errr. Well square-enix AND Nintendo (mostly). But Nintendo always deliever great games, even if it takes a year of delaying. "cough cough" Zelda:TP "cough" Other developers really need to observe Nintendo and se what they are doing right. (And what they're not doing right. "cough cough" Friend codes. "cough")
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#12 JustWiicredible
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did you ever stop to think maybe konami didnt want to risk making pes for wii? maybe they thought, hmm whats the point wasting time on it, i don't think the controller fits it well, i know we'll make an exclusive game for wii, of another genre that better fits...at least stop to listen to their side of the argument before saying they suck...

as for crappy developers i say activision, just for spiderman 3, and ubisoft, for all their ports...

Juswiicredible, i know what you mean about the tom clancy games but they are good and the latest splinter cell looks amazing, so you were kind of wrong there...

bobbetybob

Granted that the games formula is good i like R6: vegas waaaay over gears for it's gameplay and single player experience but then you look at GRAW and GRAW 2 it's almost like it should have been an expansion pack, More toy's new missions gameplay exactly the same. Still no civilians! a empty mexico? Where have they all gone? But you can take it to the bank there will be GWAR 3 somewhere else in the desert because the graphic models take time and $$$ to develop so there not going to do anything creative too quickly. It's the same for R6, at least with double agent they tired a new gameplay mechanic but then make a crappy port to the Wii. Beyond good and evil was cool though so i guess Ubisoft isn't all That bad.