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#1 SuperfastSonic
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It's been long overdue-we need a Smash Bros. game for the DS! Here's my idea for one:It will be called Super Smash Bros. All-stars,it would feature all characters and items from the other 3 games(hence the name All-stars) plus some characters from the DS universe. There would be new stages,and new battle modes,add that with DS download-play with up to 4 players via one game card,and then you have one of the best games you ever played on the DS! I summarized my ideas into groups,starting with the new characters. New Characters:Baby Mario and baby Luigi-both use chain-chomps as weapons. Phantoms(Legend of Zelda:Phantom Hourglass)-Up move-Teleport,Down move-Sword stab. Sora(Castlevania:Dawn of Sorrow)-uses a whip of coarse. E.B.A.(Elite Beat Agents)-they dance combat moves as an attack. Roxus(either from Spectrobes,or Kingdom Hearts 365/7 days)-Keyblade or saber sword. Optimus Prime(Transformers)-transforms into a semi-truck-totaly awesome!!!Baby Bowser-can turn into shadow Mario. New items:Light-saber,Furnisher(Animal Crossing:Wild World),Ax(Castlevania),stylas(DS),Fake item box(Mario Kart DS),a rubber chicken,and a NES gun(NES). New stages:Returning Picto-Chat stage,giant DS stage,Twilight Town(Kingdom Hearts 365/7 days),Cybertron(Transformers),Without a fight stage(Elite Beat Agents),Park(Chibi-Robo Park Patrol),and Dracula's castle(Castlevania). New feature:Ds Download-play via one game card. I stated my ideas,know it's your turn! What could make the best Super Smash Bros. DS experience?
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#2 tktomo01
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I doubt something of that caliber would fit on the cartridge. I don't think there should be a DS version, the screen is far too small for huge four player battles.
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#3 Head_of_games
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Sorry, but the DS couldn't handle that. It would still be great to have a SSB for DS, but it would have to be similar to the original in numbers of characters and such. In fact, it might even be a semi-remake like SM64: DS.

I estimate around fifteen characters, new stages, ds download and online multiplayer, and Classic, Break the Targets, and Adventure mode. Also, it should be on the DSi and subsequently take advantage of the camera and SD slot.

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#4 legend26
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i say it should be 2-d fighter (well technically smash is allready 2-d)

but i mean 2-d graphics

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#5 Head_of_games
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i say it should be 2-d fighter (well technically smash is allready 2-d)

but i mean 2-d graphics

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Hey, great idea! That way, they'd be able to fit much more in the game, and the graphics wouldn't suffer at all! After all, I'd rather have clean, good-looking sprites than N64-like 3D characters.
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#6 SuperfastSonic
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All right-DSi then. Just post things that you would like to see on a Super Smash Bros. game for the DS....I!!!! Geez....
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#7 Darth_Nater307
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I don't care what would go in it, just give me Fountain of Dreams & I'm good.
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put every stage from all the ssb games and get rid of Jigglypuff(replaced mewtwo, roy, or/and pichu )
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All right-DSi then. Just post things that you would like to see on a Super Smash Bros. game for the DS....I!!!! Geez....SuperfastSonic
The DSi would be no more capable of handling the game you suggested than the DS. However it could offer innovative gameplay mechanics using the camera and have downloadable levels and such using the memory and SD slot. Anyways, I think that because there would be limited slots for characters they should stick to one per series. Now supposing they use 2D sprites they might be able to squeeze in 20 characters max. I suggest:

1. Mario

2. Link

3. Samus

4. Pikachu

5. Fox

6. DK

7. Ness or Lucas

8. Captain Falcon

9. Yoshi

10. Sonic

11. Kirby

12. Mega-Man

13. Olimar

14. Mr. Game and Watch

15. Wario

16. Pit

17. Marth

18. Ice Climbers

19. ROB

20. Someone new and unexpected.

Of course, to have that many characters would come at the expense of other features like items, stages, game modes, etc.

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#10 Volt_Storm_7
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I agreed it's probably not for the DSL, but still have the same characters(that means everyone). being 2-d wouldn't matter, yr still getting the ssbb experience.
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#11 Volt_Storm_7
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number 20 shuld be p. trainer
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#12 Head_of_games
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number 20 shuld be p. trainerVolt_Storm_7
No, one character a series is good. And Pokemon Trainer counts as three in my book. Besides, if we are going to put more than one character for a series then we should have bowser or ganon.
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maybe bowser
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#14 SuperfastSonic
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Come on guys! Look what Hal Laboratory did with Kirby Super Star Ultra's cut-scenes,they were amazing! And they did more than 20 of them! If they can do this,I think they could handle a Smash Bros. game for the DSi.
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There is a light-saber in SSBB.
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#16 Head_of_games
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Come on guys! Look what Hal Laboratory did with Kirby Super Star Ultra's cut-scenes,they were amazing! And they did more than 20 of them! If they can do this,I think they could handle a Smash Bros. game for the DSi.SuperfastSonic
Making a character is much harder than making a cutscene. The DS/DSi could handle a Smash Bros, but it would have to be something in between the original and melee.
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#17 EdgeHarvey
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Im positve that if a ds card is atleast 1Gb, and if a full 3d game is only 300mb on my psp, then im sure that they can put more that 20 characters on a 2d game.
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#18 Balraj15
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It wud be awsome to see ssb on the dsi rather than the ds since the dsi is a more powerful system and using 2d spirits is a great idea due to the lack of storage on ds cartridges.20 characters is a good number plus downloadable content for the dsi wud b cool
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[QUOTE="SuperfastSonic"]All right-DSi then. Just post things that you would like to see on a Super Smash Bros. game for the DS....I!!!! Geez....Head_of_games
The DSi would be no more capable of handling the game you suggested than the DS. However it could offer innovative gameplay mechanics using the camera and have downloadable levels and such using the memory and SD slot. Anyways, I think that because there would be limited slots for characters they should stick to one per series. Now supposing they use 2D sprites they might be able to squeeze in 20 characters max. I suggest: 1. Mario 2. Link 3. Samus 4. Pikachu 5. Fox 6. DK 7. Ness or Lucas 8. Captain Falcon 9. Yoshi 10. Sonic 11. Snake 12. Mega-Man 13. Olimar 14. Mr. Game and Watch 15. Wario 16. Pit 17. Marth 18. Ice Climbers 19. ROB 20. Not sure. Of course, to have that many characters would come at the expense of other features like items, stages, game modes, etc.

Take out snake and sonic, put Ganon, bowser, and another girl. I wouldn't care much if they took out some items and game mode. For me they should keep The one player mode from the first ssb, multiplayer, and online. Give me that and i'm set to play my ds for life. Wait, please though for the love of god keep the gameplay the same and don't make it like jus.

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[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="SuperfastSonic"]All right-DSi then. Just post things that you would like to see on a Super Smash Bros. game for the DS....I!!!! Geez....ShuichiChamp24

The DSi would be no more capable of handling the game you suggested than the DS. However it could offer innovative gameplay mechanics using the camera and have downloadable levels and such using the memory and SD slot. Anyways, I think that because there would be limited slots for characters they should stick to one per series. Now supposing they use 2D sprites they might be able to squeeze in 20 characters max. I suggest: 1. Mario 2. Link 3. Samus 4. Pikachu 5. Fox 6. DK 7. Ness or Lucas 8. Captain Falcon 9. Yoshi 10. Sonic 11. Snake 12. Mega-Man 13. Olimar 14. Mr. Game and Watch 15. Wario 16. Pit 17. Marth 18. Ice Climbers 19. ROB 20. Not sure. Of course, to have that many characters would come at the expense of other features like items, stages, game modes, etc.

Take out snake and sonic, put Ganon, bowser, and another girl. I wouldn't care much if they took out some items and game mode. For me they should keep The one player mode from the first ssb, multiplayer, and online. Give me that and i'm set to play my ds for life. Wait, please though for the love of god keep the gameplay the same and don't make it like jus.

What's wrong with one per series? Anyways, I suppose game modes don't matter if the AI and online are good.
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#21 SuperfastSonic
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Why do we need the same unlockable characters every time a new Smash Bros. game comes out? Sure,I like Falco,Marth,Pichu,and the whole shabang,but I want variety. Optimus Prime anyone?
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[QUOTE="SuperfastSonic"]All right-DSi then. Just post things that you would like to see on a Super Smash Bros. game for the DS....I!!!! Geez....Head_of_games

The DSi would be no more capable of handling the game you suggested than the DS. However it could offer innovative gameplay mechanics using the camera and have downloadable levels and such using the memory and SD slot. Anyways, I think that because there would be limited slots for characters they should stick to one per series. Now supposing they use 2D sprites they might be able to squeeze in 20 characters max. I suggest:

1. Mario

2. Link

3. Samus

4. Pikachu

5. Fox

6. DK

7. Ness or Lucas

8. Captain Falcon

9. Yoshi

10. Sonic

11. Snake

12. Mega-Man

13. Olimar

14. Mr. Game and Watch

15. Wario

16. Pit

17. Marth

18. Ice Climbers

19. ROB

20. Someone new and unexpected.

Of course, to have that many characters would come at the expense of other features like items, stages, game modes, etc.

Kirby should definitely be on this list instead of Sonic or Snake. Megaman is good, though, and add Bomberman, and this would be a good roster.
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#23 Head_of_games
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[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]

[QUOTE="SuperfastSonic"]All right-DSi then. Just post things that you would like to see on a Super Smash Bros. game for the DS....I!!!! Geez....kirbyfalco55

The DSi would be no more capable of handling the game you suggested than the DS. However it could offer innovative gameplay mechanics using the camera and have downloadable levels and such using the memory and SD slot. Anyways, I think that because there would be limited slots for characters they should stick to one per series. Now supposing they use 2D sprites they might be able to squeeze in 20 characters max. I suggest:

1. Mario

2. Link

3. Samus

4. Pikachu

5. Fox

6. DK

7. Ness or Lucas

8. Captain Falcon

9. Yoshi

10. Sonic

11. Snake

12. Mega-Man

13. Olimar

14. Mr. Game and Watch

15. Wario

16. Pit

17. Marth

18. Ice Climbers

19. ROB

20. Someone new and unexpected.

Of course, to have that many characters would come at the expense of other features like items, stages, game modes, etc.

Kirby should definitely be on this list instead of Sonic or Snake. Megaman is good, though, and add Bomberman, and this would be a good roster.

Oh snap I forgot Kirby!
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#24 Serraph105
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honestly that sounds like a pipe dream as it wouldnt fit on the cart. if they did do a Smash Bros on the DS it would have to be more like the original and very dumbed down from the level that Brawl is on and I probably wouldnt play it either simply because I can already have a better experience on the wii
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#25 SuperfastSonic
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How could you forget Kirby!?!? If it wasn't for him there wouldn't BE Hal Laboratory! Kirby means alot to us fans: he's my avatar for cry'in out-loud!!
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[QUOTE="ShuichiChamp24"]

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"] The DSi would be no more capable of handling the game you suggested than the DS. However it could offer innovative gameplay mechanics using the camera and have downloadable levels and such using the memory and SD slot. Anyways, I think that because there would be limited slots for characters they should stick to one per series. Now supposing they use 2D sprites they might be able to squeeze in 20 characters max. I suggest: 1. Mario 2. Link 3. Samus 4. Pikachu 5. Fox 6. DK 7. Ness or Lucas 8. Captain Falcon 9. Yoshi 10. Sonic 11. Snake 12. Mega-Man 13. Olimar 14. Mr. Game and Watch 15. Wario 16. Pit 17. Marth 18. Ice Climbers 19. ROB 20. Not sure. Of course, to have that many characters would come at the expense of other features like items, stages, game modes, etc.Head_of_games

Take out snake and sonic, put Ganon, bowser, and another girl. I wouldn't care much if they took out some items and game mode. For me they should keep The one player mode from the first ssb, multiplayer, and online. Give me that and i'm set to play my ds for life. Wait, please though for the love of god keep the gameplay the same and don't make it like jus.

What's wrong with one per series? Anyways, I suppose game modes don't matter if the AI and online are good.

I never said there is anything wrong with one per series, it's just that I would rather have Ganon and Bowser over those two. Maybe that's just me though. I will agree with the second part though. If AI and online is good, i'm happy with that.

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Less like Brawl,more like Melee.
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#28 Head_of_games
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How could you forget Kirby!?!? If it wasn't for him there wouldn't BE Hal Laboratory! Kirby means alot to us fans: he's my avatar for cry'in out-loud!!SuperfastSonic
Thus the "Oh snap I forgot Kirby!" Anyways I think perhaps they could fit in more than 20 characters as long as it was 2D sprites with no single player mode. After all, if you had a good online that matched you up with players of equal skill level than you could play forever. Online should have tournaments as well.
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#29 GamerTron0
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Ur idea sucks dude go back to the drawing board!! The animal crossing characters would be good but calling it all stars would be lame, they should call it super smash bros DS, i really want to see the Ds port come soon and perhaps a ocernia of time remkae like super mario 64 ds.
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I don't know, I think I'll have a fit if they couldn't fit Zelda & Lyndis in on it.
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#31 pspfords
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i don't think that it would be that dificult.

using nsmb graphics, they could easily pull it off.

about 10 characters(so that not much memory is wasted here)

MARIO, LINK, SAMUS, NESS, FOX,

none of those pointless ones.

online could be supported, and fields could be designed (nothing like hyrule temple though)

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I don't think it would work, an SB game would work on a handheld, they always have been on an Nintendo Console system instead, cause of the amount of data having to been stored on the discs and cartidages! But i would like it to be kinda transferred in a way to an Nintendo Handheld! They'll have to make it all 2-D instead of uselitizing 3-D Graphics to keep its size down! But an good idea Superfastsonic! I appaual you! WELL DONE!
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capcom vs super smash bros
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There is no way, that could fit on it. Just put the N64 in a DS Catrdige, but take out stuff as well.
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#35 omishboy4831
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The ds might actually be able to put the n64 to shame with the number of characters it can have. The n64 cartidge had 16mb of space and the ds has up to 128mb of space. That is a heck of an amount more than the n64. Especially if sprites are used the amount of characters that could be made might surpass the wii in the number of characters. Now I have nothing against stating some 3rd party characters but don't name other 1st party characters (ex. Master chief) that is just pointless.

Megaman and viewtiful joe might not be too hard to get on the next super smash bros capcom has had a pretty good history with nintendo.

Thats my two cents...

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I don't think it would work, an SB game would work on a handheld, they always have been on an Nintendo Console system instead, cause of the amount of data having to been stored on the discs and cartidages! But i would like it to be kinda transferred in a way to an Nintendo Handheld! They'll have to make it all 2-D instead of uselitizing 3-D Graphics to keep its size down! But an good idea Superfastsonic! I appaual you! WELL DONE!ComboTroop
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#37 A_Ninja_Gamer
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all single chars no falco...chars with similair attacks and stuff. MULTICARD PLAY!!! download play takes up tons of memory this would elim a lot of space...would be sprites and the DS handeled Kingdom hearts pretty well with those epic movies scenes.could make up to 3 of your custom maps...just a smaller scale of brawl.i would love them for this
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Hey hey hey... wait a minute man, I think you're taking it so far that is almost imposible to believe. At least, as the way you're describing it. What you say looks awesome, but remember we're talking of the DS... DS won't be able to have a super duper game with millions of characters... or it can be..? hey waint a minute, isn't ultimate jump stars one of thosse games xD yeaah.. well never mind! maybe one day you're dream will come true (we all wish for that) and thank god Nintendo Ds is awesome!

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As far as characters go I think about 15 would be accurate with one new character to the series. The lack of room for characters means there just isn't room for third party so no Sonic, Snake, Megaman, etc. If there had to be one it would be Sonic. And honestly I think it would be a great time to ditch Jigglypuff since Jiggly doesn't exactly make an elite 15. I would like to see: 1. Mario 2. Link 3. Samus 4. Pikachu 5. Yoshi 6. Donkey Kong 7. Kirby 8. Fox 9. Luigi 10.Captain Falcon 11.Ness (since Mother 3 never made it over here) 12.Marth 13. Pit 14. Olimar 15. Little Mac 16. Sonic So basically the original game sans Jigglypuff and a few extra popular characters who represent a different series. I'd also be just fine the original ported over that game is great.
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that would be freakin awesome

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#42 cuckoowrangler
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if nitendo did manage to put this game together they would definitaly have to add tom nook. i was really disapointed when they made a level for animal crossing but no playable carecter. also chibi robo could be a good fighter.
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#43 Scorpio196
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If they were to make one, they should add stuff like adventure and classic mode, versus and special melee, more variety of items, ds download play and online mode.

As for charaters, they should put in about 20-25 characters at least with more variety. By that I mean no more than two characters from the same brand.So if you put Mario in the game, you can only put one more character from the mario series.The same goes for zelda, pokemon, kirby, ect. This, I think, will give the creators more imagination and originality instead of putting, let's say, three characters with similar appearances/move sets(Mario, Luigi and Dr.Mario. This was completely pointless IMO).

Now for the characters themselves. Since this will be a SSB for the DS, I'm going to put charactrs from both SSB and other DS titles. Remember this is just my opinion. Don't like it, then make your own list.

#'s 1-11: The original 12 minus Jigglypuff(No more Mario characters)

# 12: Marth

# 13: Roxas (KH:358/2)

# 14: MegaMan (Either the original, Lan's Navi or Geo Stelar And Mega)

# 15: Zelda or Ganondorf (No more Zelda charaters)

# 16: Maxwell (Scribblenauts. Try coming up with a moveset for him)

# 17: Neku Sakuraba (TWEWY. Now what pins should he use)

# 18: Any character from a Final Fantasy game on the DS (I was thinking Luneth, Cecil or Vaan)

# 19: Platinum Pokemon Trainer (Pokemon would be Monferno, Empoleon and Turtwig, each with different moves that the other Pokemon Trainer. Also no more Pokemon characters)

# 20: Isaac (Not a DS character, but did make an appearance as an assist trophy in SSBB)

# 21: Axel (KH:358/2. No more KH characters)

# 22: Sonic or Shadow

# 23: Pit

# 24: Mr. Game & Watch

# 25: Silver (Sonic series. No More Sonic characters)

And there you go.

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#44 Yoweeh
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At this point I don't care what system the new SSB game is on as long as they bring Roy back. He was my baby in Meelee. Even though I suck at using him now, he's still incredible. x3 And Amaterasu! They should have her. Plus, now she's on DS. I couldn't care less about Chibiterasu though. But Ammy has all of her weapons as well as her Paintbrush techs. And her final smash could be like turning into Shiranui. I don't really want a 2D SSB though. Bleh.

I can't contribute at the moment, sorry.

EDIT: Having a TWEWY character in a SSB game...? Some how, as difficult as it is to believe, I don't want to see that. =/ I don't know why but it just doesn't really work. I mean... the pairings. I mean PikachuxMarth (Pikachu on top! D8 ) is one of the most popular pairings thanks to SSBB. And of course EveryonexPit. The mental scarring... *gag* But that's what Pit deserves for replacing the Boy Toy Roy. xD -shot-

I'm going to stop talking before I give myself nightmares again.

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#45 BigBen11111
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Just as long they can fit in Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, Marth, Roy, Ike, Pit, & Zero Suit Samus *giggity*. And add in Lyndis (playable), Hector, Eliwood, Eirika, Ephraim, Elincia, Nephenee, Lethe, Micaiah, Sothe, Sora, Riku, Roxus, Xion, Axel, Cloud Strife, Neku, Shiki, Captain N, Megaman & Simon Belmont, I'm good.

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#46 cuckoowrangler
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This is super smash bros. not fire emblem v.s. hyrule. Also if the game is on ds why not have more ds focused carachters? I'm thinking Nintendog, The guy from scribble nauts is not a bad idea, toom nook, stafy those guy thrown in with some popular and original fighters (no falcos or dr.marios) and this could be good
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#47 Jdog30
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Roy has to be in it with the exact moveset from melee, all other characters who are not clones have to be in it. all original stages form N64 smahs bros have to be in. the controls have to be fully customizable. the game has to be fully centred around in depth online play including ranks, tournaments, and detailed stats.
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#48 Chopinist
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I doubt something of that caliber would fit on the cartridge. I don't think there should be a DS version, the screen is far too small for huge four player battles.tktomo01

well, there is Jump Ultimate STars that pulled this off successfully.... they can do it in that style as well =)

but i agree! baby bower = zelda

dark mario = shiek

so why not.... =)

just the tranformers i have to politely say OVER MY DEAD BODY lol plus it wouldn`t be possible for publication rights and stuff....

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#49 Soulreavercross
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Let's let old, outdated threads sleep with the forum fishes