IGN article thats 100% right about the VC

http://wii.ign.com/articles/111/1110602p1.html

It says how the VC was a delaywhile WiiWare was still being worked on that became super popular. it also talks about a potential future on the 3DS. I found it very interesting

Do want, with or without 3D.

I agree about what the article is about. However, they didn't include the reasons that I gave on the Nintendo download thread. I think the VC will return on 3DS or on the next console with all the games included right now.But, Nintendo wants to make more remakes on 3DS (Ocarina of Time, Star Fox 64)Nintendo wanted to make the Wiiware features to be more popular. It's obvious that it was the opposite. Without demos, Nintendo dropped the ball on the Wiiware. It's their first really experience worldwide on digital download services. In China,it wasthe iQue and in Japan, it was the Satelliteview that gave the the first experiences on digital download services for Nintendo.

Nintendo screwed up on this one for sure. IF NOA can't do anything abt it usually it means its Nintendo Japan is tying their hands..so boo Nintendo Japan. :P

It doesn't bother me as much. I can understand some classics, but the new generation systems should be bought to primarily play the new games. I would rather have companies focus on making new games than just emulate existing games. I already owned all the previous systems and you can play any game you want on your PC already pretty much. The VC is a little too expensive anyhow. An example of this is the sonic's mega collection which features 50+ games at the starting price point of $30, which now only costs $20, that is less than buying all the sonic games on VC for $8 a piece. If you were to get Sonic 1-3 and knuckles on VC, it would cost you $32. Why just get the Sonic's for that price when you can get a lot more for a good deal cheaper?

Who is willing to pay $10 for mario kart 64 when the game is pretty much obsolete at this point? Who hasn't beaten Mario 64 a billion times?

A majority of the cool games for N64 were made by Rare and Nintendo sold them to Microsoft. Even they did decide to release Blast Corps, Killer Instinct, Conker, or Jet Force Gemeni, it would not be on Nintendo. Zelda, Mario, F-Zero, Star Fox 64, and Turok were the major games on it. Rogue Squadron has a hell of chance because lucas arts is busy with the current games and factor 5 went down. Acclaim went down and whoever owns Turok isn't going to put turok 1 or 2 up there.

3rd parties just aren't putting out the classics on any of the consoles really, and Nintendo has put most of their first party games up on the VC except a few.

Did Nintendo even think that WiiWare was good? Would they buy the crap they put on there?

I can't believe that IGN just did a four page article dedicated to the VC; they must be slow on things to talk about right now, and furthermore, what I glimpsed over didn't make me miss visiting the site that much.

The situation at hand really isn't as complex or detailed as IGN wants to make it. The simple fact is that the Virtual Console saw its best days shortly after the Wii's launch, and most of its success was driven off of those earlier games. Once the buzz around those games started to wane, so did the VC in terms of popularity and importance, and while it was enough to encourage other developers for a while to release games on the service, even with non-Nintendo platforms, it's clear that the VC was and has always been driven by Nintendo's games and the early Nintendo VC games at that.

Just take a look at the most popular VC games on the Wii Shop Channel, and see for yourself. If you're not Pac-Man, you're not going to be a third party game to make much of a splash on the VC, and that's probably the biggest reason why third parties have lost almost complete interest in the service. Furthermore, the top five games on the service are all Super Mario games; at least on WiiWare, there isn't that one dominant game or brand that has hijacked the service to consume most people's interest, and the popular games tend to fluctuate a lot more there and with more developers being involved. Not that I think this has much to do with WiiWare at all, but the simple fact that the VC has seen the games that are going to carry the service do its job, and now, it's just something that doesn't demand nearly as much attention.

I think it's that simple. I took IGN's four page rant and narrowed it down to not even four full paragraphs. :P

something it didn't say is that on how americans are not buying VC games for the past 2 years i owned my wii 85% of comments every monday is " why wont we get ----- game, or why put on games no one heard of because we don't want them" but yet people are buying wiiware a lot of uses on GS may not like wiiware but its oblivious that the rest of america doesn't agree. in japan its the other way around they love all VC even games that they didn't play. will VC be on 3ds or the next nintendo system i am highly doubtfulelbert_b_23

I don't really get what the fuss is all about. I thought the VC was just a bonus to the Wii, and thus just have atleast one game was more than enough.

Furthermore, there is only so much you can release before exhausting all the clas sics.

And finally, they need to save some games for their next console's virtual console.

Yeah the WiiWare isn't much there either I mean it's just as weak.

I don't really get what the fuss is all about. I thought the VC was just a bonus to the Wii, and thus just have atleast one game was more than enough.

Furthermore, there is only so much you can release before exhausting all the clas sics.

And finally, they need to save some games for their next console's virtual console.

trugs26

I didn't think of the VC as a bonus. I though of it as one of the main features of the console when it launched back in 2006. That was one of the neat things about the system. The ability to downloadpast games.

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I don't really get what the fuss is all about. I thought the VC was just a bonus to the Wii, and thus just have atleast one game was more than enough.

Furthermore, there is only so much you can release before exhausting all the clas sics.

And finally, they need to save some games for their next console's virtual console.

12qazx

I didn't think of the VC as a bonus. I though of it as one of the main features of the console when it launched back in 2006. That was one of the neat things about the system. The ability to downloadpast games.

Well it would be nice if the VC saw heavy support throughout but I never really expected it to last forever. The well has to run dry at some point, given the large bunch of games that were license products back in the days, companies that have gone under, IP's have changed hands, its not like they were starting with a full hand to begin with.

I don't think the VC should just go away like it has, but it should take a backseat to Wii Ware. Why? Because you could always get an VC game you want, nothings stopping anyone on here from easily obtaining Earthbound. But Wii Ware serves as the only avenue for indy developers to break through on Nintendo hardware. These groups could be the future of gaming, but many seem keen to push them aside for easily available games of the past.

Its probably not Nintendo's intention to push indy developers, but VC taking a backseat has that affect anyway. They would stand no chance against the VC if it were still a huge focus, meaning they get pushed back to making flash games or something. Would people had noticed World of Goo or Lost Winds, if it came out the same week as Earthbound and Majora's Mask? I doubt it.

Also I doubt that whole lack of Western games is on NOA, everytime I see a "where is this game" and "where is that game" comment, they are never western games their asking for. The fanbase demand Japanese titles, so that is what they get. And Japan probably still has a greater focus on the VC because, Wii Ware is mostly western developers right. Well you know how Japan treats western developed products.

Well you can't put out all the good games so close to one another. I mean the so called 'golden age' of gaming also had a lot crappy games as well. So the good classic releases are few and far in between. Also, there's may be alot of legal tie up with 3rd party game and many licensed games from back in the day--that can clog things up too. I mean there are alot of licensed games I played back in the day, that I doubt will ever be re-released on the VC.

Yeah the WiiWare isn't much there either I mean it's just as weak.

LegatoSkyheart

theres World of Goo one of the best wii games

Did Nintendo even think that WiiWare was good? Would they buy the crap they put on there?

bbkkristian

The only game I like in wiiware is world of goo

and there are some great classics in VC

Did Nintendo even think that WiiWare was good? Would they buy the crap they put on there?

bbkkristian

lol true, i can agree with you a bit on this, but hey come on, i guess there are a few good games on there, althogh i havent downloaded anything from wiiware yet.

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Did Nintendo even think that WiiWare was good? Would they buy the crap they put on there?

almossbb

lol true, i can agree with you a bit on this, but hey come on, i guess there are a few good games on there, althogh i havent downloaded anything from wiiware yet.

Dr. Mario Online RX and Final Fantasy IV: the After Years (Which was Milked SOOOO much with all of its add ons :x ) were the only good WiiWare games I bought. My Life as a King Sucked, you don't even fight. You sit back and read how you're fighters fought.

I think all those crappy games were made by new developers (ones that We've never heard of), and they are trying to get popular. But until they release at least a seemingly good game, they are going to die in the industry. So I think that if anyone were make their own business in the gaming industry, they would have to start somewhere, and by using WiiWare, they don't have to ship anything to stores (which saves them money)

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Yeah the WiiWare isn't much there either I mean it's just as weak.

Cruse34

theres World of Goo one of the best wii games

there's The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, one of the best games of all time for the Virutal Console.

You see what I did there? I was talking about the Weekly Releases. We've been getting nothing but Aquarium Sims and Card Games.

What we need for the WiiWare service is a Fighting Game like Street Fighter 2.

And thats exactly what nintendo needs to fix, wouldnt it be cool if they made an adaptor that lets you play all your old carts? with proper backwards compatability too. At least with that we can play games that we know companies wont release like for example there are few N64 games because of this issue games like perfect dark and banjo kazooie would never make its way to the VC

The problem is that Nintendo blew all their good games out in the first couple years. Now there is only a handful of games left. Can you guys think of any unreleased first party games beyond Yoshi's Island, Donkey Kong 64, or Earthbound? Also, third parties aren't interested in re-releasing their games considering the beast of a line-up Nintendo put out.