Is Donkey Kong Considered a Villain in the Mario Universe

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#1 PhazonBlazer
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because sometimes DK helps the Mario characters (Mario Party) but sometimes hee is against them
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#2 Jaysonguy
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This question has come up before and I still have the same answer even after thinking about it more.

Donkey Kong is like a separate nation. He'll do things that help his own cause but he's not that apt to help out just for the heck of it.

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#3 makaveli_89
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in my mind, i consider him to be good. Mainly because of all the DKC games ive played over the years.
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#4 tgh93_29
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he seems to have the "dont start none wont be none" mentality, i think he just chills until someone pisses him off
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#5 kwahhn
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If you're a member of PETA, then no.

If you enjoy steak and hate PETA, then yes.

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#6 black_ice23
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sometimes hes good sometimes hes bad, like mario vs. DK is a throwback to the original donkey kong game where he is a villain but then bowser was invented and took over the villain duties, and then you had DK getting his own games and teaming up with mario so yeah it depends, sorry i didnt answer your question, hope i didnt confuse you any more
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#7 ozzsoad
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I like to believe that after the whole kidnapping the princess and throwing of the barrels incident, Mario and Donkey Kong reached an agreement and became friends. Donkey Kong went off to run his own country where he frequently gets his bananas taken away whereas Mario found a new nemesis and still just can't seem to keep the baddies away from Peach. What makes her so special, huh?
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#8 BuryMe
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Except for the first DK game, they are separate worlds. And DK is the good guy in his worlds.
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#9 slyux432
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Except for the first DK game, they are separate worlds. And DK is the good guy in his worlds.BuryMe
you forgot about the recent DK vs mario games, dk's a bad guy in those games. anyways, i agree with jasonguy, dk does his own thing. so i voted neutral :P
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#10 SHACKR
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He's was suppose to be bad since his arcade game, but he's pretty much good in all other games he's starred in (DK is a villian in the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series I think), so I say neutral

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#11 Rigga911
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hes neutral
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#12 IronManRhino
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He's like knuckles is to sonic, vegeta to goku or how newman is to seinfeld, they get along only when necessary.
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#13 k_smoove
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Depends on the game. I vote neutral.
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#14 pro_gamer12345
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Wasn't he the one who used to kidnap Peach WAY early in the times. Like the times you had to jump over barrels and stuff. But I think he is a neutral character in the Mario World.
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#15 Madmangamer364
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From what I understand, the Donkey Kong we know today isn't even the same DK from the original Pauline-kidnapping days. That DK is who we happen to call Cranky these days. I wouldn't consider DK a villain as much as a character that has his own motives. In fact, when it comes to sports games, etc., I see DK in the same way I've seen Yoshi in the post SMW era; both characters now have their own missions and goals, but because they're tied to Mario, they come back when there is some big event is to be had.
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#16 ZumaJones07
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definitely neutral imo I kind of want to compare him to Shrek... :?
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#17 AdRock92
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He isn't a villian anymore, but doesn't do much to help others though.
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#18 Master_Saibot
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Isn't the Donkey Kong in "Donkey Kong" Cranky Kong and Donkey now is Donkey Kong Jr. I think in one of the games it said something about Cranky Kong used to throw barrels at people.
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#19 andrewham7
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in mario party, donkey kong is good... . . . . . . . . .
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#20 XBASX
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Donkey's old man, Cranky Cong used to be the badguy when he kipnapped the princess back in the old days. Now his son, Donkey Kong forfills the hero role.
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#21 dmil1991
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Donkey Kong was bad, but he's reformed, because K. Rool was badder.
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#22 sexy_chimp
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Cranky Kong was the monkey in the original Donkey Kong game. The Donkey Kong we have now is his son.
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#23 Swifty_Magee
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DK's a gorilla, man! He does whatever he wants, so sometimes he's helping and other times he's hindering. Such is the nature of a big gorilla in a small, red tie.
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#24 Einn0d
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I say nuetral, but wow i never knew about that Cranky Kong story. Wouldn't that make Mario an old man also? That reminds me of how Mario used to be a villian, which is wierd if you think about it now.
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#25 bob_newman
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He's neutral. He only cares about the well-being of his native land. He could care less about helping people other than his fellow DKC inhabitants.

He seems bad because of the whole "kidnapping" of the Lady, but that's not the full story. Jumpman (Mario) mistreats Donkey Kong, and in turn Donkey Kong gets mad and kidnaps the Lady (Pauline). Then, Mario goes to rescue her.

I'm pretty sure DK was just pissed off at Mario and tried to get him back.

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#26 bowserjr123
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I don't think so.

-In DKC 2 and 3, he's actually the one being captured.

-In DKC 1, he saves his other monkey buddies.

-In the arcade version, DK is mistreated by Jumpman(Mario) and in revenge DK kidnaps Pauline.

For the most part, DK is a good character. He just lays back until someone provokes him to become evil.

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#27 pierst179
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I think he is a nice guy!
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#28 Jakendo
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He did star in a game that tried to teach us Math... Yep, he's evil.
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#29 pinksolidsnake
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So did Mario!
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#30 pinksolidsnake
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wait, no...it taught you how to type..
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wait, no...it taught you how to type..
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#32 xxxBravo_3xxx
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I dont't think so, not since the original anyways
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#33 sman3579
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I would say he is both. Its hard for me to decied because some games he is good (SSBB, Mario Party, etc) and some games he is a bad guy (Donkey Kong, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, etc). So its really hard to say.
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#34 trav_have
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That bastard stole Peach, brought her to the top of a tower, and started throwing barrels down preventing Mario from saving her. He's a villian!
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#35 black_ice23
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He's like knuckles is to sonic, vegeta to goku or how newman is to seinfeld, they get along only when necessary.IronManRhino

that seems about right, probablly the best explaination

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#36 guard12
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Donkey Kong is however you want to perceive him..He does stuff to benefit himself and not necessarily help out directly
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#37 deactivated-62cbf5c22ef38
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sometimes hes good sometimes hes bad, like mario vs. DK is a throwback to the original donkey kong game where he is a villain but then bowser was invented and took over the villain duties, and then you had DK getting his own games and teaming up with mario so yeah it depends, sorry i didnt answer your question, hope i didnt confuse you any moreblack_ice23

yea.. i agree with you and some others here with the similar opinion...

in short it depends on how far back you go :P

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#38 yowvapa2
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That bastard stole Peach, brought her to the top of a tower, and started throwing barrels down preventing Mario from saving her. He's a villian!trav_have

Peach did not appear in Donkey Kong. You are thinking of Pauline, who was previously known as "Lady" in Japan.

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#39 jjr10
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Donkey doesn't live in the Mushroom Kingdom. He lives nearby, on that island in DK64. Occasionally, he has to go over, to get milk and bread and he might be caught up in something. Maybe Pauline took the last bread from the service station! That's why he kidnapped her. He's not the bad guy! The bread company is, for not making enough Bread.

In other words, i don't think he is. More like a companion.

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#40 capthavic
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I think he is basically good. DK only kidnapped the girl cause he was in love. Then Bowser was invented and took the main villain role.

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#41 henock
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sometimes hes good sometimes hes bad, like mario vs. DK is a throwback to the original donkey kong game where he is a villain but then bowser was invented and took over the villain duties, and then you had DK getting his own games and teaming up with mario so yeah it depends, sorry i didnt answer your question, hope i didnt confuse you any moreblack_ice23

Isn't the monkey from that game cranky kong? I could have sworn I read that somewhere. Or maybe I dreamt it that way...

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#42 damaster101
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Well i think him and Mario had some misunderstandings, but now they have become mates and parted there ways and don't interact with each other until something big happens.

But DK is just a gorilla he doesn't care for anyone else except his fellow ape mates and his country.But he does like to get out and have fun with the whole crew whether its some mad go-karting,parties or full on smashes.Donkey Kong is awesome.

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#43 thebisonx
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Donkey Kong has been smug for years.
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#44 raahsnavj
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Villian doesn't mean much in the Mario Universe. I mean, villians should actually do something bad, not just run off with a girl or some toys once in a while. I think in the Mario Universe you have Mario that is always good, and then the rest of the cast that do nothing more than run around make it hard for mario to platform around. Hardly 'villian like'. DK fits that bill. He had his own games where he has had to get bananas and such, but for the most part he is just a useless character printed on the box to help sell more Mario. So Neutral.
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#45 nintendoman562
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In the Super Mario World OFFICIAL gameguide it lists DK as a villain.