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#1 abhirocks198
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I looked at the reviews for Zelda and paper mario, and they got only 8.8 each!  abd they say that the score is so because they didn't change the games' style!  And when a developer does change it, they get critcized for changing it.  Do you guys think Gamespot is mad?

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#2 flclempire
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23.....its all 23.... 
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#3 JMart0492
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No. Some games that never changed are aweomse because of the awesome formula and they never get old. (Castlevania) Some games could use some tweaks (Zelda and Paper Mario) We already had their best games of the franchise (LoZ:OoT, PM:TTYD) Not saying these aren't great games but you have to be honest no matter how much the story changes running around Hyrule and traveling to new places can sometimes get old.

But again, I didn't think LoZ:TP and SPM were bad games, just games that could use some improvements.

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#4 abhirocks198
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Well, yeah.  But then, gamespot goes and gives pdz, that damn game, a 9!  That is not right,  swear, if that happens again, I will personally chop off the perswon who grades pdz.
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#5 l8bitz
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23.....its all 23.... flclempire

Isn't it 22? 

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#6 lordlors
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Gamespot said in their news article that Nintendo is cocky so they're pretty much biased to Nintendo not to Sony and Micosoft.
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#7 JustWiicredible
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Not a good idea to disrespect the site your writing in. Locked in 5..4..3..2..

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#8 Cesar_Barba
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[QUOTE="flclempire"]23.....its all 23.... l8bitz

Isn't it 22?

Well, see, now you're being biased. Of course it's 23. What are we talking about again?
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#9 camreeno360
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Gerstman is pretty biased sometimes. He'll either give something really good or really bad. (Red Steel) It's like he get's the first impression of a game and he'll stick with that thought and won't change his mind. Hard to explain.

By the way, Zelda did deserve nothing more than an 8.8. You guys are stupid to not know how great of a game an 8.8 still is. 

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#10 Sonick54
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Gamespot said in their news article that Nintendo is cocky so they're pretty much biased to Nintendo not to Sony and Micosoft.lordlors

Link? 

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#11 Blessing77
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Zelda atleast should of gotten a 9.2, 8.8 is good but gamespot said the sound was bad, what? I thought the sound was great.
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#12 Sonick54
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Zelda atleast should of gotten a 9.2, 8.8 is good but gamespot said the sound was bad, what? I thought the sound was great.Blessing77

There's the problem. YOU thought the sound was great. Not them 

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They've been bang-on in most cases and don't fall victim to fanboy pressure like nearly every other site.
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Zelda atleast should of gotten a 9.2, 8.8 is good but gamespot said the sound was bad, what? I thought the sound was great.Blessing77

every1 thought that except for gerstman and people who are afraid of hidden microphones and cameras that hes put everywhere in our homes... im scared now.

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[QUOTE="lordlors"]Gamespot said in their news article that Nintendo is cocky so they're pretty much biased to Nintendo not to Sony and Micosoft.Sonick54

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It's under Gamespot News that says " Wii sales expecting 35 million in next years." Or something like that
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[QUOTE="lordlors"]Gamespot said in their news article that Nintendo is cocky so they're pretty much biased to Nintendo not to Sony and Micosoft.Sonick54

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Yes of course, this here is Link...

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#17 StarFoxCOM
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I belive they have big bias for Microsoft, a Medium sized Bias against sony, and big Bias against the wii. Seriously they treat VC games like there all the same price and not 5 6 or 10 dollars

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#18 santanablu3
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IMO i just think they don't like the franchise games all that much.... if you look at it they gave  wario ware a 9 or a 8.9 im not sure and then they gave Zelda a 8.8 which i think is just wrong. don't get me wrong wario ware is kool but i like Zelda way better and has more future value.
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#19 GanonBuRAP
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The review said the sound 'wasn't good' because it wasn't orchestrated.  It was the same tune computerized and looped to play over and over again. 

Anyway...TP wasn't an AAA game IMO...but I VERY rarely find games that I consider AAA.  I think 8.8 i a bang on score for tp.  A game I would consider AAA would be KotOR1...and Prince of Persia The Sands of time....I don't think there are many Nintendo games that should be AAA.  WW is overrated...

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Gerstman is pretty biased sometimes. He'll either give something really good or really bad. (Red Steel) It's like he get's the first impression of a game and he'll stick with that thought and won't change his mind. Hard to explain.

By the way, Zelda did deserve nothing more than an 8.8. You guys are stupid to not know how great of a game an 8.8 still is. 

camreeno360

Jeff didn't review Red Steel. Get your facts straight :)

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#21 Spelunker
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[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]Gamespot said in their news article that Nintendo is cocky so they're pretty much biased to Nintendo not to Sony and Micosoft.Duckman5

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It's under Gamespot News that says " Wii sales expecting 35 million in next years." Or something like that

 

Do you really believe the stuff you post? 

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#22 tomarlyn
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I belive they have big bias for Microsoft, a Medium sized Bias against sony, and big Bias against the wii. Seriously they treat VC games like there all the same price and not 5 6 or 10 dollars

StarFoxCOM

Whenever I've listened to the Hotspot podcast and they refer to the value of VC games, they always mention what your getting for the real money. 

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[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]Gamespot said in their news article that Nintendo is cocky so they're pretty much biased to Nintendo not to Sony and Micosoft.Cesar_Barba

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LMAO, good one. 

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#24 footballstar07
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oes it really matter, all matters is what you think. You think it should of gotten better and so does many other ppl does but gamespot isnt prob gonna listen. So i guess its best to Rate it yourself instead of worrying about what other people say.
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#25 camreeno360
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[QUOTE="camreeno360"]

Gerstman is pretty biased sometimes. He'll either give something really good or really bad. (Red Steel) It's like he get's the first impression of a game and he'll stick with that thought and won't change his mind. Hard to explain.

By the way, Zelda did deserve nothing more than an 8.8. You guys are stupid to not know how great of a game an 8.8 still is.

reggie186

Jeff didn't review Red Steel. Get your facts straight :)

Whoops, forgot. :)
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The answer is simply "yes". But then again, GS reviews are always pretty off-base. Look at the community ratings for a real accurate score, that's what I do. The GS reviews should just be ignored.

And yes, I do believe that

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#27 tomarlyn
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The answer is simply "yes". But then again, GS reviews are always pretty off-base. Look at the community ratings for a real accurate score, that's what I do. The GS reviews should just be ignored.

And yes, I do believe that

decepticondevil

You consider the reviews of the fans less biased than those of multi-platform journalists? 

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[QUOTE="Duckman5"][QUOTE="Sonick54"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]Gamespot said in their news article that Nintendo is cocky so they're pretty much biased to Nintendo not to Sony and Micosoft.Spelunker

Link?

It's under Gamespot News that says " Wii sales expecting 35 million in next years." Or something like that

 

Do you really believe the stuff you post?

 

Are you talking to me? If so I don't get what you mean.  

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#29 Duckman5
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[QUOTE="Cesar_Barba"]

[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

[QUOTE="lordlors"]Gamespot said in their news article that Nintendo is cocky so they're pretty much biased to Nintendo not to Sony and Micosoft.mjgballin

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LMAO, good one.

 

Nice. ROFL! 

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#30 decepticondevil
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[QUOTE="decepticondevil"]

The answer is simply "yes". But then again, GS reviews are always pretty off-base. Look at the community ratings for a real accurate score, that's what I do. The GS reviews should just be ignored.

And yes, I do believe that

tomarlyn

You consider the reviews of the fans less biased than those of multi-platform journalists?

 

I don't hold any one individual player's review at a higher regard than a GS reviewers, but I definitely consider an average score based on those that have played the game to be much more accurate than some guy that just got done playing Gears Of War and then feels like comparing a Gamecube game's graphics, yeah. Without a doubt. And I personally would use the term "Journalist" loosely. Sorry, but some guy that sits on his ass playing video games all day and then praising or damning them on the internet depending on what system they were released on is hardly going to win a pulitzer. Community scores are much more accurate, and I find it hard to believe that the majority of people that score games on the site are biased fanboys... most people are going to give an honest score based on their experience with the game.

But the bottom line is that I find those scores to be much more fitting with my feeling of most games than what the GS scores are. Do I personally feel that Warioware deserves a higher score than Super Paper Mario or Twilight Princess? Hell no. Of course, reviews all come down to a matter of opinion, and I never let some reviewer decide what game I'm going to play, but I can't personally think of any GS reviews that I thought were spot on with my feeling of the game. On the other hand, I'd say that about 75% of the community scores for the games I've played were exactly how I felt about the game.

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Yes it is.
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#32 djnesh21
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yes they are it is because they are all fat and dont like to sweat when playing the wii hahahaahaa espically jeff hahaah   F.T.GAMERSCORE
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#33 stazi42
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about zelda...i believe the sound was not good....think about the wolf...it was called wolf and it was barking like a dog....there was no conversation but really stupid sounds..and about the graphics they were the same as gamecube no difference...thay have to improve some basics, world is changing and we are in 2007...i believe that espessially for zelda the gamespot score was not so unfair...the story on the other hand was terrific...additionally i believe that community score, and reviews are far better than gamespot because it seems that gamespot is very strict against nintendo. And I will agree that they are very friendly with microsoft xbox. Because they have many journalists does not mean that they are all good and this is obvious in gamespot....
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#34 Eponique
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I think we should look at the "They say" score, rather than the "We say" score. Gamespot is biased against Nintendo and it was kind of obvious in some news article they had.
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#35 lumeiwan
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Very nice conversation.If you guys are really so good at reviewing?Why don't you guys try your luck,see whether you get hired by GS to review games.No one's perfect,let alone games...Anyways,i believe that the review points are not given based on one employee's judgement.It's most likely the same as how players vote or even more advance.If you love the game,of course you would want to give high points for it but at the same time it'll dis-qualify you to be a judge.Same thing applies to beauty pageants(Wave to one of the ladies and consider yourself fired.)Obviously those who came in shouting GS is being bias are either fans of zelda & mario OR you just love the game alot.8)
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#36 stazi42
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Very nice conversation.If you guys are really so good at reviewing?Why don't you guys try your luck,see whether you get hired by GS to review games.No one's perfect,let alone games...Anyways,i believe that the review points are not given based on one employee's judgement.It's most likely the same as how players vote or even more advance.If you love the game,of course you would want to give high points for it but at the same time it'll dis-qualify you to be a judge.Same thing applies to beauty pageants(Wave to one of the ladies and consider yourself fired.)Obviously those who came in shouting GS is being bias are either fans of zelda & mario OR you just love the game alot.8)lumeiwan

 

hehehe:D...what are u doing here xbox kid....did you come to support microsoft and gs..?hehehehehe...or are your xbox forums so boring?

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#37 zoo3
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I looked at the reviews for Zelda and paper mario, and they got only 8.8 each! abd they say that the score is so because they didn't change the games' style! And when a developer does change it, they get critcized for changing it. Do you guys think Gamespot is mad?

abhirocks198

 

man, i wouldn't give zelda on the wii anything over a 7. i played it on the gamecube first, and compared to that, the wii version is lacking. the controls are very inaccurate and the difficulty level was dropped, i would guess, to keep people from geting too frustrated with the controls. so, i think gamespot gave zelda on the wii too high of a score.