Is it me or did The Gamecube have much better games than the Wii?

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#1 ZiggyStardust16
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From looking at the games released on the gamecube and those on the Wii I feel that The Gamecube had much better games overall? Do you agree or disagree.

Of course a game like Super Mario Galaxy is one of if not the best game ever, but other than that.......

I wonder why the games on the Gamecube(and this is just my opinion) was so much better, diverse, with great storylines in many of these. Is it harder to develop for the Wii or is Nintendo just not the company it used to be? Has it something to do with the Wii controller?

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#2 Rakushoujo
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Your not the only one, I feel the same way. Its because the Wii is directed mainly at a casual audience and I also feel that Gamecube games looked better when it actually comes down to it. Tales of SYmphonia looks better than than the new one, Why? Because the character design the original is far more better than the horribly character design in the new on for the Wii. Lloyd for example looked so cool on the original Tales of Symphonia for Gamecube, but looks poorly animated on the Wii version coming up.

I also like how the Gamecube used a controller, using a Wii Remote & Nunchuck is like trying to get used to my old Side Winder computer Jostick, no, I don't own a Wii, but I'll know what to expect if I get one. I still havent seen any cool games like

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#3 manicfoot
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To be honest, I think its down to the hype around the controller. The GC didn't have anywhere near as much hype as the Wii did before it launched. The GC had a better launch as well, with games like Rogue Leader that really pushed the hardware. Whereas Wii's launch mostly had casual games (with the exception of Zelda).

I think its safe to say that the GC has more hardcore games than Wii as it stands right now because thats pretty much ALL the GC had. Wii is going for a more casual target audience so hardcore games will be a niche.

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#4 Erebyssial
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You're surprised a 5 year old system has better games than one that hasn't even been out for 2 years?
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#5 toonlinkk
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I was just thinking the same thing. Even though the Wii games are supposed to be better, when it comes down to it, there not. Sure the Wii has Brawl, Twilight princess, galaxy, and MP3, but those are the only games that really stand out. Nintendo really needs to start picking it up, because their library is not what they can do.
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you can't compare the two system's games unless until they have been out for the same amount of time. The wii isn't even halfway through it's lifespan.
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#8 WllDan7
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Is it just me or did gamecube come first and been on the market longer than the wii.
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#9 vashkey
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Yes, it did. Especially when you consider most of the games on the Wii are either ports of Gamecube games or rehashes.
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#10 vashkey
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[QUOTE="Rakushoujo"]

Your not the only one, I feel the same way. Its because the Wii is directed mainly at a casual audience and I also feel that Gamecube games looked better when it actually comes down to it. Tales of SYmphonia looks better than than the new one, Why? Because the character design the original is far more better than the horribly character design in the new on for the Wii. Lloyd for example looked so cool on the original Tales of Symphonia for Gamecube, but looks poorly animated on the Wii version coming up.

I also like how the Gamecube used a controller, using a Wii Remote & Nunchuck is like trying to get used to my old Side Winder computer Jostick, no, I don't own a Wii, but I'll know what to expect if I get one. I still havent seen any cool games like

Viewtiful Joe

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Viewtiful Joe Red Hot Rumble

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You obviously haven't actually watched scenes from TOS2, then. I'll admit that Cell shading LOOKS A TON more beautiful than th designs they are using now, you have to admit the animation is fabulous compared to the robotic animation of the first.

That, and Regal looks MUCH cooler in TOS2 once he has his "Formal" Suit back on.

The only person that looks worse IMO is Yuan.

I wouldn't look forward to a sequel to a game that had somthing as stupid sounding as "Angletoxicoasis" as a plot device.

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#12 vashkey
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Is it just me or did gamecube come first and been on the market longer than the wii.WllDan7

At least it's launch title wasnt a port of a last gen game.

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#13 King-gamer
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Well the Wii certainly lack the amount of support it had in the past. Most of the developers are running for the 360 and the PS3, due to their abilities to process better graphics AND the developers won't need to figure out how to make the controller work. Developers are afraid because if they made a mistake, everyone will complain how bad the controls are. GameCube didn't have this problem. Partly because of the controls IMO, HOWEVER, the Wii isn't on the market long enough to get developers more confortable with dealing with the motion controls. once developers realize the potential of the Wii and the remote, great games will rain from the heavens. If, only if, they realize its potential...

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#14 YoBrandino
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I loved my Gamecube. Now, the Wii isn't all I want it to be, i still love it, but it really has taken a second tier to my 360.

All I had last gen was the game cube (and DS). I got the Wii this gen, and then I got a PS2, and then I got a 360 (still have the DS and my PC). Still waiting for the Wii to really give me what I want. I do need to pick up the fire emblem game, and am desperately awaiting TOS2.

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#15 shadowlink797
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I disagree. The Wii has a lot of quality titles that I'm looking forward too. In a year my Wii collection will be bigger than my GC collection. The GC had a lot of quality titles but the third party support just died after the second year. The Wii has much stronger third party support with titles like Fragile, Arc Rise Fantasia, Oboro Maramusa Youtouden, Fatal Frame, Tenchu, Rune Factory, De Blob etc.

After the second year I was just purchasing the big first party titles since there was very little else that was interesting. For me at least, the Wii is proving to be a much better system in terms of software. The only negative is that teh Wii has a lot more crap than the GC had and that is to be expected, due to the way it's selling.

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#16 Rakushoujo
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[QUOTE="Rakushoujo"]

Your not the only one, I feel the same way. Its because the Wii is directed mainly at a casual audience and I also feel that Gamecube games looked better when it actually comes down to it. Tales of SYmphonia looks better than than the new one, Why? Because the character design the original is far more better than the horribly character design in the new on for the Wii. Lloyd for example looked so cool on the original Tales of Symphonia for Gamecube, but looks poorly animated on the Wii version coming up.

I also like how the Gamecube used a controller, using a Wii Remote & Nunchuck is like trying to get used to my old Side Winder computer Jostick, no, I don't own a Wii, but I'll know what to expect if I get one. I still havent seen any cool games like

Viewtiful Joe

Viewtiful Joe Revival

Viewtiful Joe 2

Viewtiful Joe Red Hot Rumble

Viewtiful Joe Battle Carinival

Etc

XKing2

You obviously haven't actually watched scenes from TOS2, then. I'll admit that Cell shading LOOKS A TON more beautiful than th designs they are using now, you have to admit the animation is fabulous compared to the robotic animation of the first.

That, and Regal looks MUCH cooler in TOS2 once he has his "Formal" Suit back on.

The only person that looks worse IMO is Yuan.

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#19 Jazunn
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No... The gamecube had no hype, no games and the stupidest controller ever. Every complaint about the Wii is even worse with the GC.
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#20 SmashyCut
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It's just you.
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You're surprised a 5 year old system has better games than one that hasn't even been out for 2 years?Erebyssial

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I disagree. I have more Wii games now than any other console I've ever owned.

Wii has a lot more great games than the GC ever did.
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#23 Sepewrath
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Its actually just an illusion, caused by the quantity of games on the console. Obviously the GC at times was baren for release, so when games actually came out, they were mostly good games. On the Wii, there are actually more good games out for the Wii now, than there were for the GC two years after launch. But they are just buried in a sea of poor/rushed/casual titles. Its the same with the PS3, the PS2 was last gen, what the Wii is now, there were of course great games, but they also got all the crap as well, the perks of being market leader.
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I still wish gamecube games were easier to find.
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From looking at the games released on the gamecube and those on the Wii I feel that The Gamecube had much better games overall? Do you agree or disagree.

Of course a game like Super Mario Galaxy is one of if not the best game ever, but other than that.......

I wonder why the games on the Gamecube(and this is just my opinion) was so much better, diverse, with great storylines in many of these. Is it harder to develop for the Wii or is Nintendo just not the company it used to be? Has it something to do with the Wii controller?

ZiggyStardust16

I actually feel the exact opposite. To list a couple of examples:

Mario Kart: Double Dash, whilst a great improvement to the N64 installment, wasn't terribly good. Mario Kart Wii, however, is according to me, and every fan of the series I know the best Mario Kart game yet.

The Wind Waker, despite its great graphics, was an incomplete game that didn't last on me quite as long as OoT or MM, and I didn't enjoy it as much as those either. I haven't played TP (let's just consider it a Wii game), but from what I've heard it was loads better.

Super Mario Sunshine was a fun game but didn't reinvent the genre quite as much as Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Galaxy.

Another noteworthy mention is Brawl. Melee is also great, and Brawl completely lives up to the challenge of successing it, if you ask me.

So I'm afraid I'm gonna have to disagree with the point being made. There are of course great games on the GC such as F-Zero GX, Star Fox Adventures (and Assault for as far I'm concerned), and Paper Mario 2, but no successors have yet appeared on the Wii for the former two games, while I haven't played the successor to the last game (Super Paper Mario) yet. I do start to notice, though. I have my Wii only since February, and I already have half the number games I got for the GC in its entire lifespan, and I'm nowhere near the end of this enthusiasm.

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#26 Fredrick2003x
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Yes the Gamecube has much better games than the Wii... So far.

But the Gamecube has already reached the end of its life cycle, so we still have a long way to go for Wii. There is no reason why it would not catch up and surpass.

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#27 YoBrandino
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If the Wii just give me some more Baten Kaitos, I'll be happy!
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Its actually just an illusion, caused by the quantity of games on the console. Obviously the GC at times was baren for release, so when games actually came out, they were mostly good games. On the Wii, there are actually more good games out for the Wii now, than there were for the GC two years after launch. But they are just buried in a sea of poor/rushed/casual titles. Its the same with the PS3, the PS2 was last gen, what the Wii is now, there were of course great games, but they also got all the crap as well, the perks of being market leader. Sepewrath

I agree with this. TC, it is just you.

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#29 Jdog30
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You're surprised a 5 year old system has better games than one that hasn't even been out for 2 years?Erebyssial
exactly, the game cube has been out way longer, so it had time to fill it's library with good games.
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#30 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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The Gamecube was the most underappreciated console ever released, in my opinion. Like the second poster said in this thread, it all comes down to the controller hype, that is the only reason why the Wii outsells the competition in a surprising reverse of last generation's sales.

I feel that the Wii does have some good games - Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn, Super Paper Mario, Mario Kart Wii, Metroid Prime 3, etc etc. But, when you look at the variety of good, solid games on the GCN, it's hard not to feel a bit disappointed.

But alas, the Wii is backwards compatible! And I hope it always stays that way. Maybe the Gamecube will get the respect it deserved in the afterlife.

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#31 bigman_9221
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I was just thinking the same thing. Even though the Wii games are supposed to be better, when it comes down to it, there not. Sure the Wii has Brawl, Twilight princess, galaxy, and MP3, but those are the only games that really stand out. Nintendo really needs to start picking it up, because their library is not what they can do.toonlinkk
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