Is Nintendo throwing in the towel...

for their "hardcore" 1st party titles? I mean what was the last nintendo game that was actually challenging? Clearly Nintendo doesn't have to care about its long-standing fans because it has found a gold minefrom casuals. Don't you feel betrayed? I mean look at 2011: all I can see is Skyward Sword (if they do stay true to what they said) and even that doesn't look promising.

Apparently Donkey Kong Country Returns is one of their hardest games to date. I think people need to understand that hardcore doesn't always equal extreme violence or full 3D. Hardcore used to be the Mega Man series, Mario games at the higher worlds, etc. Long standing Nintendo fans were looking forward to New Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Kirby Epic Yarn. Metroid fans were looking forward to Metroid Other M. Nintendo fans were willing to give Monster Hunter Tri and Epic Mickey fair shakes. I see no reason at all to feel betrayed by Nintendo.

Lets look at the true "casual" games they've made. Big Brain Academy, Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Music, Wii Play, and Wii Fit/Plus, and Wii Party. That's it. 8 games (might be missing one or two) this entire generation this is primarily aimed casuals. 8 out of all the games they made for the Wii and not counting the ones they published for other developers. They never forgot about their core audience. They were just slow at putting games out hoping others would fill the void.

The majority of games are not hard at all

Where have you been these past months? :|

dkc4 is hard goldeneye is hard especally using the mote lol,

i dont see where your saying nintendos throwin in the towel if anything the other 2 are making easier games

look at how their health systems are- for one they recharge, then you got a navigator in almost every game making it more easier for you to find objectives

dkc4 has hard levels as you get into world 2 , thats quite early for hard levels ,there was this one level with tidal waves i had a tough time on that one

You're either a troll....or just very unaware of alot of games that have been released in recent months.

I mean what was the last nintendo game that was actually challenging?.

jwhitmore12

Donkey kong country returns and sin and punishment star successor*when played on hard mode this game will destroy you*. those two games are the only one's I've played this year that I had trouble not dieing in. But a few of the levels in super mario galaxy 2 are challenges. *cough 242 star*

I don't know if I'm allowed to say this on these forums, but Nintendo is making much more challenging games than most other companies this gen

I just got DKCR yesterday and its definatly the hardest wii game I've played and the hardest game I've played in years. But its not cheap and I'm having a great time

As many have already said, lack of challenge doesn't make it not hardcore. Besides, they have released Donkey Kong Country Returns, which I hear is very challenging. Besides, who even cares if a game is hardcore or not, as long as it's fun? What does hardcore even mean? . For instance, I'm pretty sure that the Assasin's Creed titles would be considered "hardcore". Are they all that challengin? No. Are they fun and have many things for completeionists to find? You bet they do. The majority of games are fairly easy, but many of them are considered "hardcore."

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define "hardcore"ZumaJones07

No offense TC but i've gone through your entire post history and generally you seem to have been negative towards Nintendo lately. You obviously spend more time on the 360 to even notice the hardcore and challenging games that Nintendo have and will have in the future.

define "hardcore"ZumaJones07

I don't know if I'm allowed to say this on these forums, but Nintendo is making much more challenging games than most other companies this gen

Pikminmaniac

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There are several games on Wii that have alot to do. Just look at SMG2. 242 stars. Anyway, just go back to playing CoD on your 360. You know, one that has almost no singleplayer, and at many times frustrating multiplayer. (Not saying that the games are bad. On the contrary, I own a few.) I would go as far as to say that the Wii has some of the best singleplayer and "harcore" games out there. People just pass many games off as kiddy, and don't even bother realizing that there are many great games on Wii.

"Hardcore games" list:

Super Mario Galaxy 2

Metroid: Other M

Kirby's Epic Yarn

Donkey Kong Country Returns (latest difficult game)

"Casual games" list:

Wii Party

Looking at that, I say no. And haven't you forgotten Mario Sports Mix for next year? Just because that and Skyward Sword are out next year doesn't mean they'll be the only first party games in 2011. Also, I suggest taking a look at the 3DS lineup.

Kirby's Epic Yarn isn't just for "casuals"

I'm absolutely sick of the "casual" vs "hardcore" debate anyway. It's basically meaningless at this point.

And if all I play next year for Wii is Skyward Sword, I'm one happy guy.

I would have to agree with you TC. Nintendo has become so reliant on their 'family fun' games that they forgot about the ones who truly cared from the start. Sure they gave us Mario All Stars but what crap is that? It's just the SNES game on a Wii Disc and a few crappy songs half of which are sound effect. I'm getting quite angry at them because they are doing the bare minimum and people still buy their stuff. Their online stuff should be so much better and they need to work on some hardcore games for long loyal fans.Crisis_Eye

[QUOTE="Crisis_Eye"]I would have to agree with you TC. Nintendo has become so reliant on their 'family fun' games that they forgot about the ones who truly cared from the start. Sure they gave us Mario All Stars but what crap is that? It's just the SNES game on a Wii Disc and a few crappy songs half of which are sound effect. I'm getting quite angry at them because they are doing the bare minimum and people still buy their stuff. Their online stuff should be so much better and they need to work on some hardcore games for long loyal fans.J-man45

We've got: Donkey Country Returns, Sin and Punishment, New Super Mario Bros Wii, Epic Mickey (though not Nintendo, it had quite a challenge streak towards the end), and Other M.

I would have to agree with you TC. Nintendo has become so reliant on their 'family fun' games that they forgot about the ones who truly cared from the start. Sure they gave us Mario All Stars but what crap is that? It's just the SNES game on a Wii Disc and a few crappy songs half of which are sound effect. I'm getting quite angry at them because they are doing the bare minimum and people still buy their stuff. Their online stuff should be so much better and they need to work on some hardcore games for long loyal fans.Crisis_Eye

I'm guessing you ignored this years line up cause there sure were plenty of great games that came out.

Beyond the things that people have already said, the difficulty level of games on theNES and to a lesser degree the SNES was to increase replay value, not to make them "hardcore". Most games on those platforms were so short that the only way to hide the fact that they could be beaten in an hour or two was to make those the hardest damn one or two hours you ever saw. Now that games are actually sufficiently advanced to enable actual content, there is no reason to make games that difficult anymore. This has nothing to do with Nintendo. None of the games I've played on the other consoles have been all that hard on balance, either.

Beyond the things that people have already said, the difficulty level of games on theNES and to a lesser degree the SNES was to increase replay value, not to make them "hardcore". Most games on those platforms were so short that the only way to hide the fact that they could be beaten in an hour or two was to make those the hardest damn one or two hours you ever saw. Now that games are actually sufficiently advanced to enable actual content, there is no reason to make games that difficult anymore. This has nothing to do with Nintendo. None of the games I've played on the other consoles have been all that hard on balance, either.

GabuEx

Where have you been? In the last few months the Wii has seen quite a few great games.