Is split-screen dead?

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#1 aransom
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Please vote, and explain your vote, if you feel inclined to do so.

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#2 garrett_duffman
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it doesnt have to be split screen, as long as there is local multiplayer
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#3 wiifan001
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No way. Not every multiplayer game needs to have offline play, and not every game with offline multiplayer should have split-screen mode. Most of the time it's better to just have 4 players on one screen. Super smash bros brawl and The Conduit would not work well with split screen.
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#4 starwarsjunky
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its certainly getting that way, unfortunately :(
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#5 Jaysonguy
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Yes it's dead

It's past dead

It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"

We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time

The days of...

Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"

Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"

....are over

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#6 garrett_duffman
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Yes it's dead

It's past dead

It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"

We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time

The days of...

Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"

Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"

....are over

Jaysonguy
oooh screen looking... thats why I only play co-op
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#7 aransom
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Yes it's dead

It's past dead

It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"

We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time

The days of...

Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"

Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"

....are over

Jaysonguy

What about people who still have their friends come over to play games?

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#8 starwarsjunky
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Yes it's dead

It's past dead

It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"

We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time

The days of...

Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"

Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"

....are over

aransom

What about people who still have their friends come over to play games?

seriously...its like no one has friends anymore haha
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#9 Litchie
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Depends on the game, but I'd gladly see more split-screen, since I really enjoy playing with friends who sit in the same room as me. Pikmin 3 has got to have it!

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#10 umcommon
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[QUOTE="aransom"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Yes it's dead

It's past dead

It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"

We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time

The days of...

Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"

Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"

....are over

starwarsjunky

What about people who still have their friends come over to play games?

seriously...its like no one has friends anymore haha

I doubt jasonguy has friends. I pisses me off that so many games omit split screen, especially so may FPS games. I much rather enjoy playing an FPS game with friends locally than online.
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#11 Madmangamer364
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I think bob_newman's post put it in the best perspective, but unless the local multiplayer experience doesn't require split-screen to play together (like in fighting games, etc.), I still want to see it in multiplayer games. To have games that claim to be multiplayer, but doesn't include the most basic of multiplayer play that has been used for years is kind of crazy, don't you think? :P

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#12 Rod90
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it doesnt have to be split screen, as long as there is local multiplayergarrett_duffman
Agreed.
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#13 BrunoBRS
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better not be. half the local multiplayer is based on it, and i love it. never got why people complained about having to play on a smaller screen. you're still seeing everything, and you're having even more fun than in single player, because you're laughing at your friend's face after killing him with a rocket launcher shot while "surfing" on your arwing. yes, assault's multiplayer is awesome :P
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#14 its_a_username
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the grinder is going to have split screen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2LDJWTuA6k

just look at the main screen it says SPLIT SCREEN

so its not dead yet

just has its legs chopped

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#15 greenarcher02
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so far split screen hasn't worked well for the IR pointer... and local multiplayer needn't be split screen.... just look at NSMBWii
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so far split screen hasn't worked well for the IR pointer... and local multiplayer needn't be split screen.... just look at NSMBWiigreenarcher02
that doesnt mean it shouldnt exist. many games (specially the ones with competitive, aka versus, multiplayers) only work with splitscreen. and the pointer isnt really a problem. i dont remember having problems playing FPS's on splitscreen.
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#17 wurmie
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Call of Duty would have been nice with split screen

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#18 darkmark91
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ALL FPS should have split screen!

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#19 so_hai
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For those that voted for EVERY game to have split-screen, have fun playing light-guns games split-screen.
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#20 goblaa
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On the PS3 and 360...yes. Which is sad since this is the first gen that we've really had giant HDTVs and better texture and clearity than ever. Really, if you think about it, this is the best gen ever for splitscreen! To bad nearly no dev is doing any splitscreen games...

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#21 fleetmenace
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if its a multiplayer shooter, atleast have a co op deathmatch mode. my thinking is the sensor bar cant track the ir pointer of mulitple remotes as controlling a camera so it cant be done. but fighter games have split screen. i think games that dont use the ir pointer to control the camera has split screen anyway.
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#22 aransom
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if its a multiplayer shooter, atleast have a co op deathmatch mode. my thinking is the sensor bar cant track the ir pointer of mulitple remotes as controlling a camera so it cant be done. but fighter games have split screen. i think games that dont use the ir pointer to control the camera has split screen anyway.fleetmenace
It can be done, the Wii was designed to do it. The sensor bar doesn't 'track' anything, it just sits there sending out constant infrared light. The remote tells the Wii what it 'sees', and the Wii decides where each remote is pointing. Don't believe me? Go to the Wii main menu, turn on all four of your remotes, and you'll have four crosshairs that you can move all over the screen, independently, as fast as you want. The amount of processing power this takes is insignificant next to the processing power needed to render four-player split-screen. For cryin' out loud, the N64 could do four player split-screen, and how much more powerful is the Wii than the N64?

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#23 codezer0
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There should be some facilities for a local multiplayer if there is going to be any form of multiplayer. Sharing the same screen is no biggie with (most) rail shooters, since usually things suggest that both player characters would be looking in the same general direction. only exception I've seen to that were some of the newer Time Crisis games that had the two player characters going in separate directions periodically. But yea, if there can't be split-screen for multiplayer, there should at least be support for some kind of LAN play, if not online play.
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#24 bob_newman
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Yes it's dead

It's past dead

It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"

We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time

The days of...

Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"

Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"

....are over

Jaysonguy
Says the guy with no REAL friends. Become a good person, make some REAL friends, and you'll understand why splitscreen is important.
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#25 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Yes it's dead

It's past dead

It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"

We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time

The days of...

Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"

Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"

....are over

bob_newman

Says the guy with no REAL friends. Become a good person, make some REAL friends, and you'll understand why splitscreen is important.

Yeah see, that's the popular answer

"Go get some friends and then it'll be fun to play a game horribly downgraded"

In split screen the image is distorted either by stretching it out or by just cropping the view, that's not even counting the fact that games made with split screen don't look as good as games without split screen. It's much easier on the hardware to do online multiplayer then it is to do split screen.

Then look at all the fun we'll have in split screen! In deathmatch each side is horribly compromised by being able to see EXACTLY where the other person is, well what fun we'll have then.

Split screen gaming combines two things. Playing a game with distorted visuals and watching a game, well that's fun. I don't like watching people play games, I'd rather do it myself but with split screen not only do I have an inferior playing experience but I also have to waste half the screen watching someone else play.

Then there's the people that say "what happens if you go to a friends house to play a game?"

My answer to that is that my friend better have more then one game to play. I would hope my friend's library extends to any number above one.

There's three types of games

Single player
Multiplayer online
Multiplayer in person

A game where both characters are on the screen like a sports game or a fighting game then yeah, you can play on one screen in person and have fun with nothing compromised

If it requires split screen then no, you do not play that in person. That's natures way of saying "do not do this now"

Split screen was passable when moving from 28.8 to 56 was a big deal, now it's archaic and holds back developers

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#26 bob_newman
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Yeah see, that's the popular answer

"Go get some friends and then it'll be fun to play a game horribly downgraded"

In split screen the image is distorted either by stretching it out or by just cropping the view, that's not even counting the fact that games made with split screen don't look as good as games without split screen. It's much easier on the hardware to do online multiplayer then it is to do split screen.

Then look at all the fun we'll have in split screen! In deathmatch each side is horribly compromised by being able to see EXACTLY where the other person is, well what fun we'll have then.

Split screen gaming combines two things. Playing a game with distorted visuals and watching a game, well that's fun. I don't like watching people play games, I'd rather do it myself but with split screen not only do I have an inferior playing experience but I also have to waste half the screen watching someone else play.

Then there's the people that say "what happens if you go to a friends house to play a game?"

My answer to that is that my friend better have more then one game to play. I would hope my friend's library extends to any number above one.

There's three types of games

Single player
Multiplayer online
Multiplayer in person

A game where both characters are on the screen like a sports game or a fighting game then yeah, you can play on one screen in person and have fun with nothing compromised

If it requires split screen then no, you do not play that in person. That's natures way of saying "do not do this now"

Split screen was passable when moving from 28.8 to 56 was a big deal, now it's archaic and holds back developers

Jaysonguy

...says the guy with no friends.

There's more to games than resolution and x-treeeeeeeme grf-x.

You'll never understand. Playing with people in the same room as you ALWAYS beats playing games with people online. I don't care how anti-social you are, playing with friends, in the same room, is the most fun you can have in gaming. I'll hold that belief until I no longer have friends to play with.

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#27 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Yeah see, that's the popular answer

"Go get some friends and then it'll be fun to play a game horribly downgraded"

In split screen the image is distorted either by stretching it out or by just cropping the view, that's not even counting the fact that games made with split screen don't look as good as games without split screen. It's much easier on the hardware to do online multiplayer then it is to do split screen.

Then look at all the fun we'll have in split screen! In deathmatch each side is horribly compromised by being able to see EXACTLY where the other person is, well what fun we'll have then.

Split screen gaming combines two things. Playing a game with distorted visuals and watching a game, well that's fun. I don't like watching people play games, I'd rather do it myself but with split screen not only do I have an inferior playing experience but I also have to waste half the screen watching someone else play.

Then there's the people that say "what happens if you go to a friends house to play a game?"

My answer to that is that my friend better have more then one game to play. I would hope my friend's library extends to any number above one.

There's three types of games

Single player
Multiplayer online
Multiplayer in person

A game where both characters are on the screen like a sports game or a fighting game then yeah, you can play on one screen in person and have fun with nothing compromised

If it requires split screen then no, you do not play that in person. That's natures way of saying "do not do this now"

Split screen was passable when moving from 28.8 to 56 was a big deal, now it's archaic and holds back developers

bob_newman

...says the guy with no friends.

There's more to games than resolution and x-treeeeeeeme grf-x.

You'll never understand. Playing with people in the same room as you ALWAYS beats playing games with people online. I don't care how anti-social you are, playing with friends, in the same room, is the most fun you can have in gaming. I'll hold that belief until I no longer have friends to play with.

Great, I'm glad you can not only enjoy an experience knowing that you're getting less while doing it but also be content in making devs unable to add everything possible in a game because they have to add something that should be been eliminated a decade ago

I refuse to do it, I'd rather let games evolve then hold them back in the dark ages

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#28 bob_newman
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I refuse to do it

Jaysonguy

Again, you'll never understand. Friends are more important than the screen you're looking at. It's as simple as that.

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i think the best local mp is having mutliple consoles tvs in one room , like a pc lan party but with consoles

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#30 greenarcher02
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[QUOTE="greenarcher02"]so far split screen hasn't worked well for the IR pointer... and local multiplayer needn't be split screen.... just look at NSMBWiiBrunoBRS
that doesnt mean it shouldnt exist. many games (specially the ones with competitive, aka versus, multiplayers) only work with splitscreen. and the pointer isnt really a problem. i dont remember having problems playing FPS's on splitscreen.

didn't red steel have a problem with it? correct me if i'm wrong, never played it...

but, with split-screen+IR.... can't you easily intrude the other 'screens', especially for shooters?... i dunno if they're capable of 'limiting' the boundaries of one remote... but i've never seen one.. and if it's that easy, we should see a lot of games right now using it... so far, everybody's perfecting their motion-control games....

hmm... maybe it's just that everybody focused on motion-controls, and ignored everything else...

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I'd much rather play a game online than have to look at one quarter of my television screen. Once you go online, you don't go back. Plus, split screen is really awkward on the Wii.
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#32 starwarsjunky
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provided you have a large enough tv, split screen really isnt a problem. some of the most fun ive had was on split screen local multiplayer, so jayson i COMPLETELY disagree with you.
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I'd much rather play a game online than have to look at one quarter of my television screen. Once you go online, you don't go back. TheLordMagnus
Speak for yourself dude. Playing with friends you like who sit next to you can add A LOT to the experience. Listen to bob_newman. A very clever man.

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#34 lynxed
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[QUOTE="TheLordMagnus"]I'd much rather play a game online than have to look at one quarter of my television screen. Once you go online, you don't go back. Litchie

Speak for yourself dude. Playing with friends you like who sit next to you can add A LOT to the experience. Listen to bob_newman. A very clever man.

Agree with this, but I do wish there was a way around split screen besides 1) online and 2) bring another console & TV. I don't have a huge TV, so it gets very hard to see.
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[QUOTE="TheLordMagnus"]I'd much rather play a game online than have to look at one quarter of my television screen. Once you go online, you don't go back. Litchie

Speak for yourself dude. Playing with friends you like who sit next to you can add A LOT to the experience. Listen to bob_newman. A very clever man.

Eh..... Playing with friends, on four players, is pretty fun, I agree. Back in the day I played GoldenEye to death with my friends. However, this, to me, pales in comparison to playing with 20-60 real players online in an epic fight. Its true I don't know these people. But you get a MUCH difference experience then you would just fighting against AI....at a much larger scale than splitscreen allows.
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#36 aransom
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i think the best local mp is having mutliple consoles tvs in one room , like a pc lan party but with consoles

AmnesiaHaze

I don't think anyone would argue with that, but my family room doesn't really have room for four flat screens (not to mention my budget).

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#37 BrunoBRS
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For those that voted for EVERY game to have split-screen, have fun playing light-guns games split-screen.so_hai
depends on what you call a "light gun game". FPS? i love it on the wii. played prime 2 a couple times with my brother (just to give the most recent example) and didnt have any problems (other than the sun's IR getting in the way of the pointer every now and then... but we obviously didnt have that problem at night :P). when people voted for "every game", they (probably) meant "every multiplayer game that can be played on splitscreen". so obviously, on rail is out
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#38 aransom
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when people voted for "every game", they (probably) meant "every multiplayer game that can be played on splitscreen". so obviously, on rail is outBrunoBRS
That's what I meant when I made this poll. I didn't want to insult people's intelligence by stating the obvious, but maybe I assumed too much.

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[QUOTE="bob_newman"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Yeah see, that's the popular answer

"Go get some friends and then it'll be fun to play a game horribly downgraded"

In split screen the image is distorted either by stretching it out or by just cropping the view, that's not even counting the fact that games made with split screen don't look as good as games without split screen. It's much easier on the hardware to do online multiplayer then it is to do split screen.

Then look at all the fun we'll have in split screen! In deathmatch each side is horribly compromised by being able to see EXACTLY where the other person is, well what fun we'll have then.

Split screen gaming combines two things. Playing a game with distorted visuals and watching a game, well that's fun. I don't like watching people play games, I'd rather do it myself but with split screen not only do I have an inferior playing experience but I also have to waste half the screen watching someone else play.

Then there's the people that say "what happens if you go to a friends house to play a game?"

My answer to that is that my friend better have more then one game to play. I would hope my friend's library extends to any number above one.

There's three types of games

Single player
Multiplayer online
Multiplayer in person

A game where both characters are on the screen like a sports game or a fighting game then yeah, you can play on one screen in person and have fun with nothing compromised

If it requires split screen then no, you do not play that in person. That's natures way of saying "do not do this now"

Split screen was passable when moving from 28.8 to 56 was a big deal, now it's archaic and holds back developers

Jaysonguy

...says the guy with no friends.

There's more to games than resolution and x-treeeeeeeme grf-x.

You'll never understand. Playing with people in the same room as you ALWAYS beats playing games with people online. I don't care how anti-social you are, playing with friends, in the same room, is the most fun you can have in gaming. I'll hold that belief until I no longer have friends to play with.

Great, I'm glad you can not only enjoy an experience knowing that you're getting less while doing it but also be content in making devs unable to add everything possible in a game because they have to add something that should be been eliminated a decade ago

I refuse to do it, I'd rather let games evolve then hold them back in the dark ages

I think what you need to do if you don't want any more responses is to point out the last social event you went to, last time you hung out with friends, and come back with a snappy witty remark.