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Yes it's dead
It's past dead
It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"
We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time
The days of...
Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"
Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"
....are over
oooh screen looking... thats why I only play co-opYes it's dead
It's past dead
It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"
We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time
The days of...
Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"
Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"
....are over
Jaysonguy
What about people who still have their friends come over to play games?Yes it's dead
It's past dead
It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"
We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time
The days of...
Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"
Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"
....are over
Jaysonguy
What about people who still have their friends come over to play games? seriously...its like no one has friends anymore haha[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
Yes it's dead
It's past dead
It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"
We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time
The days of...
Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"
Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"
....are over
aransom
[QUOTE="aransom"]What about people who still have their friends come over to play games? seriously...its like no one has friends anymore haha I doubt jasonguy has friends. I pisses me off that so many games omit split screen, especially so may FPS games. I much rather enjoy playing an FPS game with friends locally than online.[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
Yes it's dead
It's past dead
It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"
We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time
The days of...
Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"
Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"
....are over
starwarsjunky
I think bob_newman's post put it in the best perspective, but unless the local multiplayer experience doesn't require split-screen to play together (like in fighting games, etc.), I still want to see it in multiplayer games. To have games that claim to be multiplayer, but doesn't include the most basic of multiplayer play that has been used for years is kind of crazy, don't you think? :P
the grinder is going to have split screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2LDJWTuA6k
just look at the main screen it says SPLIT SCREEN
so its not dead yet
just has its legs chopped
so far split screen hasn't worked well for the IR pointer... and local multiplayer needn't be split screen.... just look at NSMBWiigreenarcher02that doesnt mean it shouldnt exist. many games (specially the ones with competitive, aka versus, multiplayers) only work with splitscreen. and the pointer isnt really a problem. i dont remember having problems playing FPS's on splitscreen.
On the PS3 and 360...yes. Which is sad since this is the first gen that we've really had giant HDTVs and better texture and clearity than ever. Really, if you think about it, this is the best gen ever for splitscreen! To bad nearly no dev is doing any splitscreen games...
if its a multiplayer shooter, atleast have a co op deathmatch mode. my thinking is the sensor bar cant track the ir pointer of mulitple remotes as controlling a camera so it cant be done. but fighter games have split screen. i think games that dont use the ir pointer to control the camera has split screen anyway.fleetmenaceIt can be done, the Wii was designed to do it. The sensor bar doesn't 'track' anything, it just sits there sending out constant infrared light. The remote tells the Wii what it 'sees', and the Wii decides where each remote is pointing. Don't believe me? Go to the Wii main menu, turn on all four of your remotes, and you'll have four crosshairs that you can move all over the screen, independently, as fast as you want. The amount of processing power this takes is insignificant next to the processing power needed to render four-player split-screen. For cryin' out loud, the N64 could do four player split-screen, and how much more powerful is the Wii than the N64?
Says the guy with no REAL friends. Become a good person, make some REAL friends, and you'll understand why splitscreen is important.Yes it's dead
It's past dead
It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"
We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time
The days of...
Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"
Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"
....are over
Jaysonguy
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Says the guy with no REAL friends. Become a good person, make some REAL friends, and you'll understand why splitscreen is important.Yes it's dead
It's past dead
It's so dead that dead things look at it and go "hey, you're pulling a me!"
We now live in the age where everyone can sit in front of their displays and play together at the same time
The days of...
Player 1: "Oh you wont guess where I'm hiding waiting to ambush you!"
Player 2: Looks up a few inches "no, I really think I will"
....are over
bob_newman
Yeah see, that's the popular answer
"Go get some friends and then it'll be fun to play a game horribly downgraded"
In split screen the image is distorted either by stretching it out or by just cropping the view, that's not even counting the fact that games made with split screen don't look as good as games without split screen. It's much easier on the hardware to do online multiplayer then it is to do split screen.
Then look at all the fun we'll have in split screen! In deathmatch each side is horribly compromised by being able to see EXACTLY where the other person is, well what fun we'll have then.
Split screen gaming combines two things. Playing a game with distorted visuals and watching a game, well that's fun. I don't like watching people play games, I'd rather do it myself but with split screen not only do I have an inferior playing experience but I also have to waste half the screen watching someone else play.
Then there's the people that say "what happens if you go to a friends house to play a game?"
My answer to that is that my friend better have more then one game to play. I would hope my friend's library extends to any number above one.
There's three types of games
Single player
Multiplayer online
Multiplayer in person
A game where both characters are on the screen like a sports game or a fighting game then yeah, you can play on one screen in person and have fun with nothing compromised
If it requires split screen then no, you do not play that in person. That's natures way of saying "do not do this now"
Split screen was passable when moving from 28.8 to 56 was a big deal, now it's archaic and holds back developers
Yeah see, that's the popular answer
"Go get some friends and then it'll be fun to play a game horribly downgraded"
In split screen the image is distorted either by stretching it out or by just cropping the view, that's not even counting the fact that games made with split screen don't look as good as games without split screen. It's much easier on the hardware to do online multiplayer then it is to do split screen.
Then look at all the fun we'll have in split screen! In deathmatch each side is horribly compromised by being able to see EXACTLY where the other person is, well what fun we'll have then.
Split screen gaming combines two things. Playing a game with distorted visuals and watching a game, well that's fun. I don't like watching people play games, I'd rather do it myself but with split screen not only do I have an inferior playing experience but I also have to waste half the screen watching someone else play.
Then there's the people that say "what happens if you go to a friends house to play a game?"
My answer to that is that my friend better have more then one game to play. I would hope my friend's library extends to any number above one.
There's three types of games
Single player
Multiplayer online
Multiplayer in personA game where both characters are on the screen like a sports game or a fighting game then yeah, you can play on one screen in person and have fun with nothing compromised
If it requires split screen then no, you do not play that in person. That's natures way of saying "do not do this now"
Split screen was passable when moving from 28.8 to 56 was a big deal, now it's archaic and holds back developers
Jaysonguy
...says the guy with no friends.
There's more to games than resolution and x-treeeeeeeme grf-x.
You'll never understand. Playing with people in the same room as you ALWAYS beats playing games with people online. I don't care how anti-social you are, playing with friends, in the same room, is the most fun you can have in gaming. I'll hold that belief until I no longer have friends to play with.
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
Yeah see, that's the popular answer
"Go get some friends and then it'll be fun to play a game horribly downgraded"
In split screen the image is distorted either by stretching it out or by just cropping the view, that's not even counting the fact that games made with split screen don't look as good as games without split screen. It's much easier on the hardware to do online multiplayer then it is to do split screen.
Then look at all the fun we'll have in split screen! In deathmatch each side is horribly compromised by being able to see EXACTLY where the other person is, well what fun we'll have then.
Split screen gaming combines two things. Playing a game with distorted visuals and watching a game, well that's fun. I don't like watching people play games, I'd rather do it myself but with split screen not only do I have an inferior playing experience but I also have to waste half the screen watching someone else play.
Then there's the people that say "what happens if you go to a friends house to play a game?"
My answer to that is that my friend better have more then one game to play. I would hope my friend's library extends to any number above one.
There's three types of games
Single player
Multiplayer online
Multiplayer in personA game where both characters are on the screen like a sports game or a fighting game then yeah, you can play on one screen in person and have fun with nothing compromised
If it requires split screen then no, you do not play that in person. That's natures way of saying "do not do this now"
Split screen was passable when moving from 28.8 to 56 was a big deal, now it's archaic and holds back developers
bob_newman
...says the guy with no friends.
There's more to games than resolution and x-treeeeeeeme grf-x.
You'll never understand. Playing with people in the same room as you ALWAYS beats playing games with people online. I don't care how anti-social you are, playing with friends, in the same room, is the most fun you can have in gaming. I'll hold that belief until I no longer have friends to play with.
Great, I'm glad you can not only enjoy an experience knowing that you're getting less while doing it but also be content in making devs unable to add everything possible in a game because they have to add something that should be been eliminated a decade ago
I refuse to do it, I'd rather let games evolve then hold them back in the dark ages
I refuse to do it
Jaysonguy
Again, you'll never understand. Friends are more important than the screen you're looking at. It's as simple as that.
i think the best local mp is having mutliple consoles tvs in one room , like a pc lan party but with consoles
[QUOTE="greenarcher02"]so far split screen hasn't worked well for the IR pointer... and local multiplayer needn't be split screen.... just look at NSMBWiiBrunoBRSthat doesnt mean it shouldnt exist. many games (specially the ones with competitive, aka versus, multiplayers) only work with splitscreen. and the pointer isnt really a problem. i dont remember having problems playing FPS's on splitscreen.
didn't red steel have a problem with it? correct me if i'm wrong, never played it...
but, with split-screen+IR.... can't you easily intrude the other 'screens', especially for shooters?... i dunno if they're capable of 'limiting' the boundaries of one remote... but i've never seen one.. and if it's that easy, we should see a lot of games right now using it... so far, everybody's perfecting their motion-control games....
hmm... maybe it's just that everybody focused on motion-controls, and ignored everything else...
I'd much rather play a game online than have to look at one quarter of my television screen. Once you go online, you don't go back. TheLordMagnusSpeak for yourself dude. Playing with friends you like who sit next to you can add A LOT to the experience. Listen to bob_newman. A very clever man.
Speak for yourself dude. Playing with friends you like who sit next to you can add A LOT to the experience. Listen to bob_newman. A very clever man. Agree with this, but I do wish there was a way around split screen besides 1) online and 2) bring another console & TV. I don't have a huge TV, so it gets very hard to see.[QUOTE="TheLordMagnus"]I'd much rather play a game online than have to look at one quarter of my television screen. Once you go online, you don't go back. Litchie
Speak for yourself dude. Playing with friends you like who sit next to you can add A LOT to the experience. Listen to bob_newman. A very clever man. Eh..... Playing with friends, on four players, is pretty fun, I agree. Back in the day I played GoldenEye to death with my friends. However, this, to me, pales in comparison to playing with 20-60 real players online in an epic fight. Its true I don't know these people. But you get a MUCH difference experience then you would just fighting against AI....at a much larger scale than splitscreen allows.[QUOTE="TheLordMagnus"]I'd much rather play a game online than have to look at one quarter of my television screen. Once you go online, you don't go back. Litchie
For those that voted for EVERY game to have split-screen, have fun playing light-guns games split-screen.so_haidepends on what you call a "light gun game". FPS? i love it on the wii. played prime 2 a couple times with my brother (just to give the most recent example) and didnt have any problems (other than the sun's IR getting in the way of the pointer every now and then... but we obviously didnt have that problem at night :P). when people voted for "every game", they (probably) meant "every multiplayer game that can be played on splitscreen". so obviously, on rail is out
when people voted for "every game", they (probably) meant "every multiplayer game that can be played on splitscreen". so obviously, on rail is outBrunoBRSThat's what I meant when I made this poll. I didn't want to insult people's intelligence by stating the obvious, but maybe I assumed too much.
[QUOTE="bob_newman"]
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
Yeah see, that's the popular answer
"Go get some friends and then it'll be fun to play a game horribly downgraded"
In split screen the image is distorted either by stretching it out or by just cropping the view, that's not even counting the fact that games made with split screen don't look as good as games without split screen. It's much easier on the hardware to do online multiplayer then it is to do split screen.
Then look at all the fun we'll have in split screen! In deathmatch each side is horribly compromised by being able to see EXACTLY where the other person is, well what fun we'll have then.
Split screen gaming combines two things. Playing a game with distorted visuals and watching a game, well that's fun. I don't like watching people play games, I'd rather do it myself but with split screen not only do I have an inferior playing experience but I also have to waste half the screen watching someone else play.
Then there's the people that say "what happens if you go to a friends house to play a game?"
My answer to that is that my friend better have more then one game to play. I would hope my friend's library extends to any number above one.
There's three types of games
Single player
Multiplayer online
Multiplayer in personA game where both characters are on the screen like a sports game or a fighting game then yeah, you can play on one screen in person and have fun with nothing compromised
If it requires split screen then no, you do not play that in person. That's natures way of saying "do not do this now"
Split screen was passable when moving from 28.8 to 56 was a big deal, now it's archaic and holds back developers
Jaysonguy
...says the guy with no friends.
There's more to games than resolution and x-treeeeeeeme grf-x.
You'll never understand. Playing with people in the same room as you ALWAYS beats playing games with people online. I don't care how anti-social you are, playing with friends, in the same room, is the most fun you can have in gaming. I'll hold that belief until I no longer have friends to play with.
Great, I'm glad you can not only enjoy an experience knowing that you're getting less while doing it but also be content in making devs unable to add everything possible in a game because they have to add something that should be been eliminated a decade ago
I refuse to do it, I'd rather let games evolve then hold them back in the dark ages
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