Is the 3DS between the Dreamcast & the PS2,in terms of graphical prowess?

Sorry if it's innacurate,but it seems to me that it is.

I find myself being constantly surprised by how good the graphics are on the 3ds.Justinps2hero

Examples?

From what I've seen, it's a Gamecube with modern shaders, a low resolution, and a low polygon count. How great a game looks will depend on how well the developers can play around with the 3DS's graphical advantages and disadvantages.

Resident Evil Revelations looks far better than anything shown on the PS2, Dreamcast, and GC, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (3DS) looks on par, if not better, than MH3 (Wii), Mario Kart 7 looks just as good as Double Dash, same goes for Kingdom Hearts DDD and Mario Tennis Open, Tales of the Abyss is nearly on par with the PS2 version, MGS 3D looks better than the PS2 version in some situations, and Mario 3D Land looks better than Sunshine.

From what i read the pica200 gpu in the 3ds is on par with the original xbox. Gotta remember that it has to render double the polys for 3d.

From what I've seen, it's a Gamecube with modern shaders, a low resolution, and a low polygon count. How great a game looks will depend on how well the developers can play around with the 3DS's graphical advantages and disadvantages.

Resident Evil Revelations looks far better than anything shown on the PS2, Dreamcast, and GC, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (3DS) looks on par, if not better, than MH3 (Wii), Mario Kart 7 looks just as good as Double Dash, same goes for Kingdom Hearts DDD and Mario Tennis Open, Tales of the Abyss is nearly on par with the PS2 version, MGS 3D looks better than the PS2 version in some situations, and Mario 3D Land looks better than Sunshine.

ANIMEguy10034

LMAO

No!

NOTHING on the 3DS looks as good as God of War 2,RE4,or Rogue Squadron 3.

Or a bunch of PS2 & GC games i'm forgetting.

Don't talk if you don't know.

The 3DS' graphics are actually very good.

It's about 800x more powerful than PS3, so about 1/4 the power of Xbox 360.

The 3DS' graphics are actually very good.

It's about 800x more powerful than PS3, so about 1/4 the power of Xbox 360.

MSXBOX4EVER

@the last two posts

>_> pls only serious posts guys.

I'd say closer to between PS1/N64 and Dreamcast. I would have liked a bigger graphical leap from the DS.ItsEvolution

LMFAO! Get some glasses! The original DS is PS1/N64, 3DS is more Gamecubeish. Like Ive said numerous times, go watch a video of the Resident Evil game on DS then watch a video of the Resident Evil on 3DS and tell me its not a big graphical leap!

[QUOTE="MSXBOX4EVER"]

The 3DS' graphics are actually very good.

It's about 800x more powerful than PS3, so about 1/4 the power of Xbox 360.

hydralisk86

LMAO

No!

NOTHING on the 3DS looks as good as God of War 2,RE4,or Rogue Squadron 3.

Or a bunch of PS2 & GC games i'm forgetting.

Don't talk if you don't know.

GreekGameManiac

Feel free to prove my wrong with some visual evidence. From what I've seen, RE:R's small corridors and advanced shaders allow it to look more impressive than RE4, GoW2, and Rouge Squadron 3.

We're all entitled to our opinions and I strongly believe that RE: Revelation looks better than those games.

Feel free to prove my wrong with some visual evidence. From what I've seen, RE:R's small corridors and advanced shaders allow it to look more impressive than RE4, GoW2, and Rouge Squadron 3.

ANIMEguy10034

LOL.

It doesn't even have the power for it's games to look like those games.

Troll.

Revelations vs RE5

HERE

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[QUOTE="ANIMEguy10034"]

We're all entitled to our opinions and I strongly believe that RE: Revelation looks better than those games.

Feel free to prove my wrong with some visual evidence. From what I've seen, RE:R's small corridors and advanced shaders allow it to look more impressive than RE4, GoW2, and Rouge Squadron 3.

GreekGameManiac

LOL.

It doesn't even have the power for it's games to look like those games.

Troll.

Visual evidence is suspiciously absent in this post.

As touched upon byANIMEguy10034, the way RE: Revlations is designed makes it well suited to the 3DS. You don't have to worry so much about draw distance if you spend most of your time in a short hallway, just for example. I think by and large though, 3DS games compare really well to sixth gen. home consoles. It is not really fair to compare screens of handhelds vs. home consoles though since they both inevitably get resized in such a way to give the advantage to one or the other. In actually playing games, I much more often taken aback by the visuals on 3DS than when I play last gen. home consoles and that is what really matters.

I'd say closer to between PS1/N64 and Dreamcast. I would have liked a bigger graphical leap from the DS.ItsEvolution

[QUOTE="ANIMEguy10034"]

We're all entitled to our opinions and I strongly believe that RE: Revelation looks better than those games.

Feel free to prove my wrong with some visual evidence. From what I've seen, RE:R's small corridors and advanced shaders allow it to look more impressive than RE4, GoW2, and Rouge Squadron 3.

GreekGameManiac

LOL.

It doesn't even have the power for it's games to look like those games.

Troll.

Tekken 3D Prime Edition has some pretty sick graphics. It depends on the developer, but the 3DS seems more capable than both systems.

This is 3DS/DS. Lay off the System Wars booze. Got it? Good.

MAILER_DAEMON

But it doesn't.

It really doesn't.

id say probably between ps2 and GCcampzor

This sounds like the most accurate estimation to me. The real differences are more technical ofc but as a first impression, from the games I have thus far played... yeah.

I don't know. Resident Evil: Revelations looks about as good to me as Resi 4 on the PS2. Of course, that's comparing a 2nd year 3DS game to a 5th year PS2 game.

[QUOTE="ANIMEguy10034"]

From what I've seen, it's a Gamecube with modern shaders, a low resolution, and a low polygon count. How great a game looks will depend on how well the developers can play around with the 3DS's graphical advantages and disadvantages.

Resident Evil Revelations looks far better than anything shown on the PS2, Dreamcast, and GC, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (3DS) looks on par, if not better, than MH3 (Wii), Mario Kart 7 looks just as good as Double Dash, same goes for Kingdom Hearts DDD and Mario Tennis Open, Tales of the Abyss is nearly on par with the PS2 version, MGS 3D looks better than the PS2 version in some situations, and Mario 3D Land looks better than Sunshine.

GreekGameManiac

LMAO

No!

NOTHING on the 3DS looks as good as God of War 2,RE4,or Rogue Squadron 3.

Or a bunch of PS2 & GC games i'm forgetting.

Don't talk if you don't know.

[In what universe does RE4 look better then Revelations? Its not even a competition, unless your blind. RE4 looked great for its time, it looked better on the gamecube and Wii, but I own both and Revelations looks a thousand times better. Revelations looks closer to Resident Evil 5 then Resident Evil 4. Tekken 3D Prime Edition looks better then Tekken 5 on PS2, that probably looks closer to Tekken 6 then Tekken 5. Dead or Alive Dimensions looks nearly as good as Dead or Alive 4 on Xbox 360. Metal Gear Solid 3 looks better on 3DS. Kingdom Hearts DDD looks better then Kingdom Hearts on PS2. Also note that most of these games were released very early in the 3DS's life cycle. Street Fighter IV Dead or Alive was a launch window game, Resident Evil Revelations, Tekken 3D, and Metal Gear Solid were released just less than a year after launch, Kingdom Hearts was released just over a year after launch. FPS1337

Lol wtf? troll...

How on Earth could a 3DS game look like an XBOX360 game>?

RE:R is just like an early GC game...that's how it looks like.

[QUOTE="FPS1337"][In what universe does RE4 look better then Revelations? Its not even a competition, unless your blind. RE4 looked great for its time, it looked better on the gamecube and Wii, but I own both and Revelations looks a thousand times better. Revelations looks closer to Resident Evil 5 then Resident Evil 4. Tekken 3D Prime Edition looks better then Tekken 5 on PS2, that probably looks closer to Tekken 6 then Tekken 5. Dead or Alive Dimensions looks nearly as good as Dead or Alive 4 on Xbox 360. Metal Gear Solid 3 looks better on 3DS. Kingdom Hearts DDD looks better then Kingdom Hearts on PS2. Also note that most of these games were released very early in the 3DS's life cycle. Street Fighter IV Dead or Alive was a launch window game, Resident Evil Revelations, Tekken 3D, and Metal Gear Solid were released just less than a year after launch, Kingdom Hearts was released just over a year after launch. GreekGameManiac

Lol wtf? troll...

How on Earth could a 3DS game look like an XBOX360 game>?

RE:R is just like an early GC game...that's how it looks like.

Do you even own RE:Revelations? Do you know how it ended up on the 3DS? Capcom could run the RE5 engine on the 3DS? Which they confirmed they couldn't on the Wii. Same with Street Fighter IV. Resident Evil Revelations uses a modified version of the RE5 engine modified specifically for the 3DS. You probably don't know what your talking about and don't even have Revelations, maybe not even a 3DS for that matter cause if you did you would realize the comparison is not even close.

Its not even a competition, Resident Evil Revelations looks 100x better then RE4 and nearly as good as RE5, if not as good.

[QUOTE="ANIMEguy10034"]

We're all entitled to our opinions and I strongly believe that RE: Revelation looks better than those games.

Feel free to prove my wrong with some visual evidence. From what I've seen, RE:R's small corridors and advanced shaders allow it to look more impressive than RE4, GoW2, and Rouge Squadron 3.

GreekGameManiac

LOL.

It doesn't even have the power for it's games to look like those games.

Troll.

I'm pretty sure you're the troll in this situation. He stated nicely that his opinion differs from yours, and you call him out for being a troll. And lets be serious here, Animeguy is right about the shader technology, it's a vast improvement on RE4.

I wish people wouldn't make a big fuss over what a game looks like anyway as if it matters in the long run. Play the game, enjoy it for what it is, and be happy.

Revelations vs RE5

HERE

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beefdog

That's one of the poorest comparison videos I've seen, just saying.

I'm pretty sure you're the troll in this situation. He stated nicely that his opinion differs from yours, and you call him out for being a troll. And lets be serious here, Animeguy is right about the shader technology, it's a vast improvement on RE4.

I wish people wouldn't make a big fuss over what a game looks like anyway as if it matters in the long run. Play the game, enjoy it for what it is, and be happy.

End thread

That's one of the poorest comparison videos I've seen, just saying.

Defy_The_Fallen

Having an opinion is one thing,being blind is another.

And.about the whole "Capcom put RE5 on teh 3DS,d00d!"

Are ppl total idiots or something?

They didn't test the actual RE5,they used a VERSION of it,with downgraded graphics.

Realise that they can use modiefied versions of an engine,with LOWER graphic quality for weaker systems.

I.e. CoD games on Wii...

God.

Goddamnit already.,get it!

They COULDN'T have RE5,like it is on PS3 for example,run on the 3DS.

And there's a difference between disagreeing and being abrupt. What's the point of this thread if you're going to bash anyone with opposing views? Might as well change the title to "Whoever thinks 3DS games look better than PS2 is blind!"

And a downgraded RE5 running on the 3DS is impressive nonetheless. If Capcom were to port RE5 on the Wii, the 3DS port would look closer to the original because the 3DS has access to modern graphical features. These features, such as shaders, are one of the reasons why we believe that Revelation looks better (or more "modern") than RE4.

What's the point of this thread if you're going to bash anyone with opposing views?

ANIMEguy10034

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed.

And there's a difference between disagreeing and being abrupt. What's the point of this thread if you're going to bash anyone with opposing views? Might as well change the title to "Whoever thinks 3DS games look better than PS2 is blind!"

And a downgraded RE5 running on the 3DS is impressive nonetheless. If Capcom were to port RE5 on the Wii, the 3DS port would look closer to the original because the 3DS has access to modern graphical features. These features, such as shaders, are one of the reasons why we believe that Revelation looks better (or more "modern") than RE4.

ANIMEguy10034

It may have very good character models,but doesn't look better overall.

[QUOTE="Defy_The_Fallen"]

I'm pretty sure you're the troll in this situation. He stated nicely that his opinion differs from yours, and you call him out for being a troll. And lets be serious here, Animeguy is right about the shader technology, it's a vast improvement on RE4.

I wish people wouldn't make a big fuss over what a game looks like anyway as if it matters in the long run. Play the game, enjoy it for what it is, and be happy.

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That's one of the poorest comparison videos I've seen, just saying.

GreekGameManiac

Having an opinion is one thing,being blind is another.

And.about the whole "Capcom put RE5 on teh 3DS,d00d!"

Are ppl total idiots or something?

They didn't test the actual RE5,they used a VERSION of it,with downgraded graphics.

Realise that they can use modiefied versions of an engine,with LOWER graphic quality for weaker systems.

I.e. CoD games on Wii...

God.

Goddamnit already.,get it!

They COULDN'T have RE5,like it is on PS3 for example,run on the 3DS.

The thing is, it's not downgraded to the point that it's worse than the RE4 engine. Yes it's downgraded, but what does it matter? The truth and blatant fact is it's better than RE4, I don't think opinion is involved in this. Of course they couldn't run RE5 with the same graphical capabilities on the 3DS, no one even said they could.

I thought the other guys screenshots provided enough insight as to which looks better, but here you go.

And even after this my point still stands, enjoy the game no matter what the graphics look like. They're hardly worlds apart. If RE:R had 15-20 polygon faces like PS1, then we'd have a problem, but they don't. HAVE FUN :D

Yeah,not byuing it.

A few screenshots AREN'T enough.

Your RE4 one is low quality,btw...

If you can,find me high quality screens of the PS2 ver.

And i DO have RE:R.

It has nothing more than shiny character models(still not exactly better),the textures on RE4 are better.

It's BELOW RE4,period.

And why has my thread turned into a RE4 VS RE:R?

Hmmm?

Mind giving us some high quality RE4 screenshots? And don't try to sneak in some screens from the HD re-release. :P

And why has my thread turned into a RE4 VS RE:R?

Hmmm?

GreekGameManiac

Because whenever someone brings up the 3DS's graphical capabilities, RE: Revelation always shows up. Many people agree that it's one of the best, if not the best, looking 3DS game. Since we're comparing 3DS graphics with GC, PS2, and DC graphics, it's most logical to compare the Revelations with RE4.

It's just one game...

...and it's graphically impressive.

...and it's graphically impressive.

ANIMEguy10034

Doesn't say anything about where the 3DS is between those systems.

Wait, what?? It does say something. It's pretty much what this thread has been about for the past 8 days. We used Revelations because it's a graphically impressive game; it shows what the 3DS is capable of. If we know what the 3DS is capable of, we can determine how powerful it is compared to home consoles. According to the title, you're asking us what we think. Some of us think the 3DS is equivalent to the DC/PS2/GC, but we're aware (or should be aware) that the 3DS does not share the same internal architecture. The 3DS has some graphical advantages and disadvantages compared to other consoles so some sacrifices will be made when porting games to it. Let's use MGS Snake Eater as an example now.

[spoiler]

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As you can see, some of the graphics were improved, but some were also hindered. Keep in mind that since 3DS games are played on a tiny screen, small details, such as the texture resolution on the finger, are less noticable compared to playing it on a TV, and that 3D usually improves the visuals.

Now let's go back to Resident Evil. RE:R and RE4 are both great looking games, but Revelations has one thing RE4 does not: advanced shaders. Shaders can improve the visuals of a game because there's a greater effect on the lighting and shadows. It also makes bump mapping a lot more noticeable. Here's an example:

[spoiler]

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Revelations is mostly small corridors so its graphics are not hindered by a large draw distance, thus being able to produce some great textures and character models. The way Revelations was structured allow us to believe that it looks visually better and more modern than RE4, with or without the 3D.

Key words in this reply: THINK and BELIEVE. As in OPINION. That's what this entire thread consist of. Most opinions here are not drastic, like saying that the 3DS has N64/PS1 or 360/PS3 graphics. We have the same general conclusion that the 3DS can pull off visuals similar to those from the 6th generation home consoles, but with some advantages and disadvantages. However, we're not being so abrupt about it.

I'm not calling you a troll for thinking that the 3DS is between the Dreamcast and PS2.
I'm not calling you an idiot for thinking that the 3DS is between the Dreamcast and the PS2.
I'm not calling you blind for thinking that the 3DS is between the Dreamcast and the PS2.
I'm not going around and telling you "Don't talk if you don't know" because we have different opinions.
I'm not laughing at your replies, or pretending to laugh by typing "LMAO" or "LOL."
If you prefer RE4's graphics, then it's fine by me, but this whole debate could have been prevented if you nicely replied back by saying, "I strongly disagree with your statement. Resident Evil 4 and other PS2 games look better to me. I don't like the shiny character models and other reasons. Have a great day."

Yeah,not byuing it.

A few screenshots AREN'T enough.

Your RE4 one is low quality,btw...

If you can,find me high quality screens of the PS2 ver.

And i DO have RE:R.

It has nothing more than shiny character models(still not exactly better),the textures on RE4 are better.

It's BELOW RE4,period.

And why has my thread turned into a RE4 VS RE:R?

Hmmm?

GreekGameManiac

You don't buy it because your wrong. Re:R is better then RE:4 in every way. Also the fact the 3DS can run the RE5 engine even if it is downgraded, and the Wii simply cannot. The RE5 engine is so much more modern, tell me why Capcom would bother using the RE5 engine on 3DS when they downgraded it to the point where it looks worse then the RE4 engine? There's no logic there? Also Kingdoms Hearts looks better on 3DS then PS2, Metal Gear Solid looks better on 3DS, Tekken 3D looks better on 3DS then Tekken 5 on PS2, Dead or Alive looks better on the 3DS then the original Xbox version, looks fairly close to the Xbox 360 version. Also all of these games can run in 3D, which requires twice the power to run then 2D. We use Resident Evil Revelations vs Resident Evil 4 because they both are graphically impressive games for their respective platforms and they both are from the same franchise and are the same style of game. I will be very impressed you if you can find a Dreamcast game or PS2 game even comparable the graphically best 3DS titles. FPS1337

I don't know if i should laugh at you or ignore you.

You're an idiot,in all seriousness.

There haven't been a 3DS game to come close to the likes of GOW2.

@ANIMEguy.ok,works for me.

I'll compromise,i still strongly disagree though.

I never said 3DS isn't powerful,but the thing is,HOW powerful.

[QUOTE="FPS1337"]You don't buy it because your wrong. Re:R is better then RE:4 in every way. Also the fact the 3DS can run the RE5 engine even if it is downgraded, and the Wii simply cannot. The RE5 engine is so much more modern, tell me why Capcom would bother using the RE5 engine on 3DS when they downgraded it to the point where it looks worse then the RE4 engine? There's no logic there? Also Kingdoms Hearts looks better on 3DS then PS2, Metal Gear Solid looks better on 3DS, Tekken 3D looks better on 3DS then Tekken 5 on PS2, Dead or Alive looks better on the 3DS then the original Xbox version, looks fairly close to the Xbox 360 version. Also all of these games can run in 3D, which requires twice the power to run then 2D. We use Resident Evil Revelations vs Resident Evil 4 because they both are graphically impressive games for their respective platforms and they both are from the same franchise and are the same style of game. I will be very impressed you if you can find a Dreamcast game or PS2 game even comparable the graphically best 3DS titles. GreekGameManiac

I don't know if i should laugh at you or ignore you.

You're an idiot,in all seriousness.

There haven't been a 3DS game to come close to the likes of GOW2.

@ANIMEguy.ok,works for me.

I'll compromise,i still strongly disagree though.

I never said 3DS isn't powerful,but the thing is,HOW powerful.

God of War 2 looks great...for a PS2 game, its a jaggy mess still. I own it, it looks good for PS2, but its absolutely nothing compared to Resident Evil Revelations, Resident Evil 4 looks better in my opinion. In fact that was my first game for PS2. Revelations destroys any PS2 game, its not even close, name 1 game that looks better than Revelations? Also Kid Icarus also looks a lot better then God of War. Better textures, brighter colors, more detailed character models (outside of pit), better shader, better lighting and effects and it runs in 3D. Seriously your obviously a PS2 fanboy if you think the 3DS is less powerful. Its pretty clear. The PS2 is less powerful then the gamecube, which is about half as powerful as the Wii which can't run the RE5 engine, when the 3DS can. Its not even just your opinion, the 3DS is way more powerful, it has PS2 ports that look better on it and they run in 3D. The games on both consoles that are part of the same franchise and use similar gameplay and engines are Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid and Tales of The Abyss. Out of those games Kingdom Hearts looks a bit better on 3DS, Resident Evil looks way way better on 3DS, Metal Gear Solid looks much better on 3DS, and Tales of the Abyss looks equal on both platforms, and they all run in 3D on 3DS.

A few screenshots AREN'T enough.

Your RE4 one is low quality,btw...

If you can,find me high quality screens of the PS2 ver.

It has nothing more than shiny character models(still not exactly better),the textures on RE4 are better.

It's BELOW RE4,period.

And why has my thread turned into a RE4 VS RE:R?

Hmmm?

GreekGameManiac

Mind giving us some high quality RE4 screenshots? And don't try to sneak in some screens from the HD re-release. :P

ANIMEguy10034

The Resident Evil 4 pictures I posted are resized pictures of the HD release. The original pictures were 1280 x 720, they are not low quality by any stretch of the word. The HD release was hardly 'HD', just upscaled. The RE:R shots are bigger because that is there original resolution, and they fit, so there was no need to resize them. You can clearly see from those pictures that RE4's textures are worse, I don't know what kind of drugs you are taking. I'm pretty sure it was your influence that turned it into an RE:R v RE4 thread.

I think I'll be taking my leave here. GreekGameManiac clearly has nothing better to do with his time than argue against facts. I've made my point. Goodbye:cool: