Is Virtual Console basically finished?

We're all looking ahead to the future now it seems after E3. But I can't help but still think about awesome games from the past. There are still plenty of great games not yet released on the VC, but we only see about 1 game released for every 4-5 WiiWare games released. And out of the ones that are released we're lucky if it's a NES, SNES, N64, or Genesis title-and a good one at that. Are you with me, do you want to see more VC games released rather than WiiWare ones? What games are you still waiting to see released? Or is Virtual Console something to just forget about?

Are you with me, do you want to see more VC games released rather than WiiWare ones?

drummerdave9099

No. WiiWare games not only actually take advantage of the Wii's features, but the best WiiWare games do a better job with the Wii's strengths than most retail Wii games. Why would I prefer to see more older games that I can get on another system over WiiWare titles? Unless it's a REALLY rare game that eBay selling are asking for a super high price for, I really don't see why anyone couldn't just go out and look for the game they want to play on the system it was originally made for.

I've never really understood why people complain about the VC so much, but hey, I'm an oddball by nature I guess. :P

And when the next Nintendo console comes out you will all be forced to re-buy them unless you just keep them on your Wii. True story.

And when the next Nintendo console comes out you will all be forced to re-buy them unless you just keep them on your Wii. True story.

UbiquitousAeon

Im sure Nintendo will implement VC on their next console.

Yeah there are games I would like to see on VC, but not at the expense of Wii Ware. The industry will never move forward talent wise if Nintendo only keeps re-releasing old games over the digital games. These small games on Wii Ware, XBLA etc. are the only place small developers get a shot, if these games aren't picked up, they will never break in. Nintendo could always ramp up VC support, providing they have permission, they could even have it on the DS. But the small developers need Wii Ware, so the last thing they need to be is pushed aside again for no reason. Nintendo simply chooses not to release a bunch of VC games, they could do it without affecting the rate of Wii Ware games. Sepewrath

And when the next Nintendo console comes out you will all be forced to re-buy them unless you just keep them on your Wii. True story.

UbiquitousAeon

I doubt that since Nintendo announced DSiWare compatibility for the 3DS. When the 3DS comes out that will be the blueprint for how Nintendo plans to handle the WiiWare, VC transfer process.

i want to see any of the mario parties.

In Europe this week Mario Tennis was up for download.

I think Nintendo should redo the pricing structure for the VC. Sell NES/Sega Master system titles for $2 , SNES/GENESIS FOR $5, etc. I believe that could boost sales of VC also. How about letting people download a 5 minute demo (like the demos on Brawl) to get people to try games they have never played. I hope Virtual Console is not done there is still plenty of titles that need to come.

My Top 3 VC games I want.

1. Archrivals Genesis

2.Moonwalker Genesis

3.Quackshot Genesis

I'm still waiting for Earthboundlivinitup01

Sadly, due to licensing issues, I have a very strong feeling that Earthbound will never see a re-release in North America.

I love old nintendo games, especially mario. What I really want is Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, that would be amazing!MarioBrosSuper

[QUOTE="livinitup01"]I'm still waiting for EarthboundGabuEx

Sadly, due to licensing issues, I have a very strong feeling that Earthbound will never see a re-release in North America.

i personally hope wii 2 or whatever its called opens up into the dreamcast library as well and the GC library and sega saturn and CD libraries that they cant do because wii 1 has so little space. so really hoping wii 2 takes it further which if course means an actual harddrive.kayoticdreamz

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[QUOTE="livinitup01"]I'm still waiting for EarthboundUbiquitousAeon

Sadly, due to licensing issues, I have a very strong feeling that Earthbound will never see a re-release in North America.

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"]i personally hope wii 2 or whatever its called opens up into the dreamcast library as well and the GC library and sega saturn and CD libraries that they cant do because wii 1 has so little space. so really hoping wii 2 takes it further which if course means an actual harddrive.AlmightyDerek

The vast majority of wiiware is complete crap, at least the bad VC games still had nostalgia going for them.Englando_IV

[QUOTE="AlmightyDerek"][QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"]i personally hope wii 2 or whatever its called opens up into the dreamcast library as well and the GC library and sega saturn and CD libraries that they cant do because wii 1 has so little space. so really hoping wii 2 takes it further which if course means an actual harddrive.livinitup01

No I am not with you or anybody that thinks the way you do. I would love to see you get in Nintendo's place and release every VC game that every Wii owner wants. Please go ahead and fail miserably at that. I think Nintendo has done a phenominal job with VC and it will continue to do so in the future. Just because the games that YOU want aren't on VC yet doesn't mean that Nintendo has killed off VC. Also, just because it's not releasing that many games for the VC week to week like it used to doesn't mean that it's dead either.

I remember the last time people thought this exact same thing because Nintendo was not dropping 3-4 VC games a week and it dropped to 2, people were all saying "Has Nintendo Given up on VC" and "What about the VC Nintendo?", then the ONE week they dropped the next few VC titles, Everybody was ecstatic about what VC games launched, I think it was either the SNES Star Wars Trilogy, Ogre Battle 64 or Super Smash Bros 64 and everybody instantly changed what they were saying from "Nintendo doesn't care about VC Anymore - like you seem to think" to "ZOMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!! THIS IZ TEH MOZT AWEZOMEZT TING EZVER!!!! NINTENDO ROX!!!!". Fact is, VC is part of Nintendo now and they will continue to support it especially since they see the kind of money it generates for them.

My only complaintis moresoalong the lines ofWhy can't Nintendo add featuresto some of the VC games that released? Kirby's Dream Course would be freaking Epic with Online Play but Nintendo hasn't added updates to a VC game since Zelda: Ocarina of Time. WiiWare on the other hand (like many have said before me) has games that take advantage of the Wii's strengths and online play so why would I want them to slow down on WiiWare for the sake of old games that I already own the original cartidges for?

No I am not with you or anybody that thinks the way you do. I would love to see you get in Nintendo's place and release every VC game that every Wii owner wants. Please go ahead and fail miserably at that. I think Nintendo has done a phenominal job with VC and it will continue to do so in the future. Just because the games that YOU want aren't on VC yet doesn't mean that Nintendo has killed off VC. Also, just because it's not releasing that many games for the VC week to week like it used to doesn't mean that it's dead either.

I remember the last time people thought this exact same thing because Nintendo was not dropping 3-4 VC games a week and it dropped to 2, people were all saying "Has Nintendo Given up on VC" and "What about the VC Nintendo?", then the ONE week they dropped the next few VC titles, Everybody was ecstatic about what VC games launched, I think it was either the SNES Star Wars Trilogy, Ogre Battle 64 or Super Smash Bros 64 and everybody instantly changed what they were saying from "Nintendo doesn't care about VC Anymore - like you seem to think" to "ZOMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!! THIS IZ TEH MOZT AWEZOMEZT TING EZVER!!!! NINTENDO ROX!!!!". Fact is, VC is part of Nintendo now and they will continue to support it especially since they see the kind of money it generates for them.

My only complaintis moresoalong the lines ofWhy can't Nintendo add featuresto some of the VC games that released? Kirby's Dream Course would be freaking Epic with Online Play but Nintendo hasn't added updates to a VC game since Zelda: Ocarina of Time. WiiWare on the other hand (like many have said before me) has games that take advantage of the Wii's strengths and online play so why would I want them to slow down on WiiWare for the sake of old games that I already own the original cartidges for?

nini200

Well Nintendo had a choice to make on whether to update games or not. IMO, they made the right decision to leave the games as close to their original forms as possible.

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No I am not with you or anybody that thinks the way you do. I would love to see you get in Nintendo's place and release every VC game that every Wii owner wants. Please go ahead and fail miserably at that. I think Nintendo has done a phenominal job with VC and it will continue to do so in the future. Just because the games that YOU want aren't on VC yet doesn't mean that Nintendo has killed off VC. Also, just because it's not releasing that many games for the VC week to week like it used to doesn't mean that it's dead either.

I remember the last time people thought this exact same thing because Nintendo was not dropping 3-4 VC games a week and it dropped to 2, people were all saying "Has Nintendo Given up on VC" and "What about the VC Nintendo?", then the ONE week they dropped the next few VC titles, Everybody was ecstatic about what VC games launched, I think it was either the SNES Star Wars Trilogy, Ogre Battle 64 or Super Smash Bros 64 and everybody instantly changed what they were saying from "Nintendo doesn't care about VC Anymore - like you seem to think" to "ZOMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!! THIS IZ TEH MOZT AWEZOMEZT TING EZVER!!!! NINTENDO ROX!!!!". Fact is, VC is part of Nintendo now and they will continue to support it especially since they see the kind of money it generates for them.

My only complaintis moresoalong the lines ofWhy can't Nintendo add featuresto some of the VC games that released? Kirby's Dream Course would be freaking Epic with Online Play but Nintendo hasn't added updates to a VC game since Zelda: Ocarina of Time. WiiWare on the other hand (like many have said before me) has games that take advantage of the Wii's strengths and online play so why would I want them to slow down on WiiWare for the sake of old games that I already own the original cartidges for?

Well Nintendo had a choice to make on whether to update games or not. IMO, they made the right decision to leave the games as close to their original forms as possible.

I'm still waiting for Harvest Moon 64. It's one of my fav games of all time and I'm pretty sure the battery in my copy of the N64 cartridge is going to die soon.

I'm still waiting for Harvest Moon 64. It's one of my fav games of all time and I'm pretty sure the battery in my copy of the N64 cartridge is going to die soon.

DJAshwipe

[QUOTE="livinitup01"]I'm still waiting for EarthboundGabuEx

Sadly, due to licensing issues, I have a very strong feeling that Earthbound will never see a re-release in North America.

They said that with Tatsunoko vs Capcom.

but this week's Shop Channel Releases is very disappointing, Not 1 Virtual Console game.

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I'm still waiting for Harvest Moon 64. It's one of my fav games of all time and I'm pretty sure the battery in my copy of the N64 cartridge is going to die soon.

UbiquitousAeon

Hm... Replacing the battery myself would be a fun little project. Ha! I think I have an old Rugrats game cartridge lying around the house somewhere that I could practice on...

Thanks for the tip :)

They said that with Tatsunoko vs Capcom.

LegatoSkyheart

Yes, but Tatsunoko vs. Capcom didn't shamelessly rip off without credit countless numbers of hit rock songs. :P

Games for the Wii are not as great as the virtual console games, in other words; old school games kick ass.

Don't get me wrong i like super mario galaxy and monster hunter tri etc. but the wii only got some good titles, it's very limited.

And why is everything wireless, plus why can't you use a normal controller with games like super mario galaxy?.

Without virtual console games the wii could not have survived i think, ofcourse you can free download a snes,n64 etc. emulator with a lot of games on the pc but it play's better on a console.

I hope they will upload the game: KILLER INSTINCT to the Virtual Console store.

I'm still waiting for Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island. I'm sure they will release some VC titles on special occasions such as the holidays.

I really don't like the wii controls that much so I want to them to keep virtual console. Also, all of the WiiWare games that i've seen haven't looked too good.

Without virtual console games the wii could not have survived i think,.

imperial_figure

Where do people come up with stuff like this? Have you SEEN the sales of the Wii and its software at anytime since its launch. Without the VC, the Wii would have been just fine. The VC's primary purpose was to re-introduce people who had stopped playing video games back to the gaming world in a way that was comfortable and possibly establish Nintendo's online service. Both of those things reached their peak a while ago, as for the past few years, the Wii has exploded in popularity because of the system's ORIGINAL titles, not the VC games.

In truth, I actually wonder just how relevant the Virtual Console REALLY is these days. Has anyone even bothered to look at the service's most popular games? While I'm not sure if the most popular games reflect sales, one look at the top 20 VC games shows that the service is dominated by Nintendo games. At the time of this typing, the only third party game on the list is Pac-Man; even at retail, third parties can crack a top 20 best selling Wii list more than once. What's more, the top 5 games on the VC are Super Mario games that have been a part of the VC more or less since it was introduced. Another interesting tidbit is that New Super Mario Bros. Wii, a game that's not even a year old, has already been played three times more than Super Mario Bros. 3, according to the Nintendo Channel.

Just looking at those things would suggest that the Virtual Console isn't as important of an assest to Nintendo and the Wii as most people would want to make it, and that forcing out new games each and every week just for the sake of pleasing some people's nostalgia might not be that worthwhile of an endeavor. And let's not even get into third parties supporting the service, since they seem to be all but irrelevant at this point anyways. Not that I'm saying the VC is bad or anything, but for anyone to suggest that Nintendo NEEDS to support the service in face of all of the facts is just... silly.

Hm... Replacing the battery myself would be a fun little project. Ha! I think I have an old Rugrats game cartridge lying around the house somewhere that I could practice on...

Thanks for the tip :)

DJAshwipe

I hope they will upload the game: KILLER INSTINCT to the Virtual Console store.imperial_figure

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Without virtual console games the wii could not have survived i think,.

Madmangamer364

Where do people come up with stuff like this? Have you SEEN the sales of the Wii and its software at anytime since its launch. Without the VC, the Wii would have been just fine. The VC's primary purpose was to re-introduce people who had stopped playing video games back to the gaming world in a way that was comfortable and possibly establish Nintendo's online service. Both of those things reached their peak a while ago, as for the past few years, the Wii has exploded in popularity because of the system's ORIGINAL titles, not the VC games.

In truth, I actually wonder just how relevant the Virtual Console REALLY is these days. Has anyone even bothered to look at the service's most popular games? While I'm not sure if the most popular games reflect sales, one look at the top 20 VC games shows that the service is dominated by Nintendo games. At the time of this typing, the only third party game on the list is Pac-Man; even at retail, third parties can crack a top 20 best selling Wii list more than once. What's more, the top 5 games on the VC are Super Mario games that have been a part of the VC more or less since it was introduced. Another interesting tidbit is that New Super Mario Bros. Wii, a game that's not even a year old, has already been played three times more than Super Mario Bros. 3, according to the Nintendo Channel.

Just looking at those things would suggest that the Virtual Console isn't as important of an assest to Nintendo and the Wii as most people would want to make it, and that forcing out new games each and every week just for the sake of pleasing some people's nostalgia might not be that worthwhile of an endeavor. And let's not even get into third parties supporting the service, since they seem to be all but irrelevant at this point anyways. Not that I'm saying the VC is bad or anything, but for anyone to suggest that Nintendo NEEDS to support the service in face of all of the facts is just... silly.

Obviously the virtual console is the most important thing about the Wii. The Wii wouldn't have sold over 70 million systems if it wasn't for the fact that you can download games like China Warrior on it for 600 points. That's why all those casual gamers and retirees bought the system. It has nothing to do with Wii Sports, Mario Kart and New Super Mario Bros Wii.AlmightyDerek

Umm... I stand corrected? :P Got a nice chuckle out of that one, though. Once again, the VC is a very solid service for what it's at least supposed to be, but I think the perception of the VC has drawn WAY too much unwarrented attention and backlash at times. Once again, it typically boils down to usually unreasonable expectations by those who expect each and every nostalgic fix to satisfied through the service, when that was never really the VC's true goal. Not that wanting a particular game on the service is a bad thing, but I just think it makes the whole concept of releasing classic games every so often less about the experience and more about fanservice for a select few, and apparently, that just doesn't seem to be worth it.

Sometimes, I actually feel like I'm a bit tough on the VC, but it's not like I don't own a couple of classic games myself. Getting Super Mario Bros. 3 was a no-brainer, seeing as how it's my all-time favorite game, and Pulseman was a nice treat, seeing as how it's a solid import game from a developer I admire greatly in GameFreak. There is actual appeal there, but I'm still not against Nintendo and other developers giving more attention to WiiWare development and distribution, since I think there are also plenty of quality titles on the service, provided that you don't dismiss EVERYTHING there as shovelware the moment you lay eyes on it. Among my backlog of Wii titles, a nice chuck of those games are actually WiiWare games, and I like the idea of having fresh and affordable titles that I can download at a small cost to fit my current gaming mood and playing games that use the Wii's functionality as well, if not better, than most retail titles.

I'm sure that Nintendo will continue to support the VC down the line, but regardless, I just can't say I comprehend the obsession of whether or not what games will eventually come out and when, especially if I have it or can go on eBay or even something like a Flea Market, Yard Sale, used game store, etc. and get said game for probably a lower cost and quicker. *shrugs*