Its As If You All Have Forgotten Why You Bought The Wii

The Wii forums are in a pretty sick state. The forum is full of people complaining about lack of software or lack of care from Nintendo. I honeslty do not understand its really starting to bother me. So I'm just going to start off with a few points.

First Party Software takes a while to create

People are complaining. "Where is zelda?" - "When are we going to get the next Mario?" - "Where are my hardcore games at?"

NEWSFLASH -They're being developed. Calm down.

People are always complaining that there are no core titles from Nintendo, yet they seem to forgot what exactly Nintendo has done since the Wii released.

• The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - It launched with the friggin console!
• Super Smash Bros Brawl
• Super Mario Galaxy
• Mario Kart Wii
• Battalion Wars 2
• Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
• Animal Crossing: City Folk
• Warioland: Shake It!
• Mario Strikers: Charged
• Excite Trucks
• Excitebots
• Super Paper Mario
• NPC! Titles
• Introduction of WiiWare - which has been fantastic
• CONSTANTLY improving Virtual Console and adding tons of titles
• Giving us a microphone perpipheral
• Opening up SD card slots to up to 32GB or space, saving WiiWare and VC titles on the SDCard

Coming soon:

• Wii MotionPlus
• Wii no ma Channel (hitting other areas later than Japan) - Video service
• Punch-Out!! Wii
• Dynamic Slash
• Another Code: R, Gateway of Memory
• Tact of Magic
• Cosmic Walker
• Spawn Smasher
• Sin and Punishment 2
• Kirby
• Zelda Wii
• Mario Platformer
• Pikmin 3

Yet you guys want more? I don't get it. Nintendo has done a butt load for you consumers yet your still not satisfied? There are a bunch of third party offerings if you aren't interesting by a whole lot here.

• MadWorld
• Little King's Story
• The Conduit
• House of The Dead: Overkill
• Tenchu: Shadow Assassin's
• Monster Hunter 3
• Dragon Quest 10
• Arc Rise Fantastia
• No More Heroes
• No More Heroes 2
• Deadly Creatures
• Boom Blox
• Boom Blox Bash Party
• Rock Band 2
• Guitar Hero: World Tour
• Zack and Wiki
• Blast Works: Build, Trade Destroy
• Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
• Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
• Broken Swords: The Shadow Of The Templar
• Bully: Scholarship Edition
• Guilty Gear XX Core
• Guitar Hero Metallica
• Mercury Meltdown Revolution
• MLB Power Pros, 2008

a whole hell of a lot more titles as well.

Where am I getting with this? If you aren't satisfied with these games - and want games like Assassin's Creed, BioShock, Street Fighter IV, etc - You have the wrong console.

Sorry to inform you, you bought the wrong system. Go trade it in, sell it, whatever, and go get one of the other two platforms and enjoy.

This is what the Wii is about. Unique, refreshing software that does not rely on the "me too" forumla - I know some of the games listed are ports - but those are few of exceptions because they are going from a PS2 to a Wii, unlike a more powerful console to a Wii.

I bought a Wii fully knowing what I was getting myself into. Unique, third party and first party offering that are EXCLUSIVE to the console - Games that wouldn't dare see the themselves on the other platforms due to high development costs and a lack of a market.

Wii Forum Goers, Smarten up

Nintendo has done a lot more than you give them credit for. If you are unsatisfied, you bought wrong console and I feel bad for you.

/rant.

Speaking of good games... I saw a No More Heroes/Red Steel 2 in 1 pack for 29.99 at gamestop yesterday... that is definitly a good pickup if any of you havent played them!

I think that list of games speaks for itself. It's a damn good time to be a gamer with a Wii.

People are always complaining that there are no core titles from Nintendo, yet they seem to forgot what exactly Nintendo has done since the Wii released.

• The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - It launched with the friggin console!
• Super Smash Bros Brawl
• Super Mario Galaxy
• Mario Kart Wii
• Battalion Wars 2
• Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
• Animal Crossing: City Folk
• Warioland: Shake It!
• Mario Strikers: Charged
• Excite Trucks
• Excitebots
• Super Paper Mario
• NPC! Titles
• Introduction of WiiWare - which has been fantastic
• CONSTANTLY improving Virtual Console and adding tons of titles
• Giving us a microphone perpipheral
• Opening up SD card slots to up to 32GB or space, saving WiiWare and VC titles on the SDCard

[...] Yet you guys want more? I don't get it. Nintendo has done a butt load for you consumers yet your still not satisfied?

Haziqonfire

Perhaps I was dissatisfied or disappointed by the points on your list.I care less about how much Nintendo has done,and more about the quality of what they've done.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

People are always complaining that there are no core titles from Nintendo, yet they seem to forgot what exactly Nintendo has done since the Wii released.

• The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - It launched with the friggin console!
• Super Smash Bros Brawl
• Super Mario Galaxy
• Mario Kart Wii
• Battalion Wars 2
• Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
• Animal Crossing: City Folk
• Warioland: Shake It!
• Mario Strikers: Charged
• Excite Trucks
• Excitebots
• Super Paper Mario
• NPC! Titles
• Introduction of WiiWare - which has been fantastic
• CONSTANTLY improving Virtual Console and adding tons of titles
• Giving us a microphone perpipheral
• Opening up SD card slots to up to 32GB or space, saving WiiWare and VC titles on the SDCard

[...] Yet you guys want more? I don't get it. Nintendo has done a butt load for you consumers yet your still not satisfied?

VGobbsesser

Perhaps I was dissatisfied or disappointed by the points on your list.I care less about how much Nintendo has done,and more about the quality of what they've done.

Do me a favour look how many games the X360 has.stike22

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

People are always complaining that there are no core titles from Nintendo, yet they seem to forgot what exactly Nintendo has done since the Wii released.

• The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - It launched with the friggin console!
• Super Smash Bros Brawl
• Super Mario Galaxy
• Mario Kart Wii
• Battalion Wars 2
• Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
• Animal Crossing: City Folk
• Warioland: Shake It!
• Mario Strikers: Charged
• Excite Trucks
• Excitebots
• Super Paper Mario
• NPC! Titles
• Introduction of WiiWare - which has been fantastic
• CONSTANTLY improving Virtual Console and adding tons of titles
• Giving us a microphone perpipheral
• Opening up SD card slots to up to 32GB or space, saving WiiWare and VC titles on the SDCard

[...] Yet you guys want more? I don't get it. Nintendo has done a butt load for you consumers yet your still not satisfied?

VGobbsesser

Perhaps I was dissatisfied or disappointed by the points on your list.I care less about how much Nintendo has done,and more about the quality of what they've done.

In any case for what Nintendo has offered, these forums (not just Wii forum TS) have just decided Nintendo is not doing enough without looking at the list of games that are there.

Calm down. ... Smarten upHaziqonfire

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Calm down. ... Smarten upclicketyclick

I don't knock down any games. I just give my opinion on them.

You used to do the same with a little certain title :P. Plus. Its not like I want the title to fail - I just don't see the hype around that one aspect of the title, more so than other aspects.

EDIT:

And yes. I cannot spell .. lol.

Not even mentioning Metroid Prime 3 and Okami, what is this? :p

Not even mentioning Metroid Prime 3 and Okami, what is this? :p

MangaPicture

I don't knock down any games. I just give my opinion on them.

You used to do the same with a little certain title :P. Plus. Its not like I want the title to fail - I just don't see the hype around that one aspect of the title, more so than other aspects.

EDIT:

And yes. I cannot spell .. lol.

Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="stike22"]Do me a favour look how many games the X360 has.Haziqonfire

Do me a favour look how many games the X360 has.stike22

[QUOTE="stike22"]Do me a favour look how many games the X360 has.Haziqonfire

When I bought a Wii, I was excepting innovation (which I got), fun (which I got), and a boat load of titles( which I don't got). The Wii isn't a clone if it has a lot of good games. That means its being a better system. When you bought a Wii were you expecting mediocrity?

I respect smart people on the internet, Haz. You're one of them (Alongside AlexSays and GabuEX of course:p...)

[QUOTE="stike22"]Do me a favour look how many games the X360 has.intro94

Nice try. The difference is that I was knocking a title AFTER release, and one that the vast majority were not excited about. I only knocked it in threads about the reviews it was getting, not in threads about... say... what preorder bonuses come with it, or the like. Nor did I try to make people stop complaining, and use it as an example of why they should stop complaining. That would be hypocritical of me. ;) And yes, you do want the title to fail. Or at least not do well. You told me as much. Do you really want me to quote-own you? :P You want it to do poorly so that games like it don't come to Wii. You want it to do worse than the games you deem "unique" and "original". clicketyclick

I used it as an example because I know people are looking forward to it - its the same reason its in my sticky thread.

And yes, I did say I wanted it to fail before, but it was more to get a raise. I actually mean I just don't want to see the Wii become like the other two in terms of how many shooters get released.

I've said many times before I'm glad at the amount of effort HVS is putting into making a Wii title - but those aspects of that title don't appeal to me - and yes, I am tired of the hype for the visuals, because I just truly do not see it.

When I bought a Wii, I was excepting innovation (which I got), fun (which I got), and a boat load of titles( which I don't got). The Wii isn't a clone if it has a lot of good games. That means its being a better system. When you bought a Wii were you expecting mediocrity?

Hungry_Jello

I'm not so much disappointed in Nintendo, as I'm just plain disappointed in Nintendo of America.

Japan has several Wii/DS (ie. Band Bros.DX channel) channels that aren't going to be released here. There's no indication that even the video/tv channel will be released outside of Japan. And Japan and Europe have both received FIRST PARTY NINTENDO GAMES (Fatal Frame 4, Disaster Day of Crisis, Captain Rainbow, Trace Memory 2, ect.) that haven't been, and seemingly won't be, released by NOA. It just seems so stupid, selfish and backwards.

I'm a huge Nintendo fan, but they could be making better decisions. Hopefully Punch-Out!! is great and they continue to work on some new titles, as well as giving us new classics like Zelda, StarFox, Kirby, and Donkey Kong.

[QUOTE="intro94"][QUOTE="stike22"]Do me a favour look how many games the X360 has.stike22

Nintendo made a few poor choices regarding launches , Fatal frame 4 being glaring case, but regardless,it offers now a console with a load of software choices for its buyers,satifiying for MOST,if they are savvy and have knowledge of them ,and arent buying decidedly the worst ranked shovelware they see so they can rant later on how "nintendo" only makes shovelware.

PS:I agreed with this the quote 2 years ago.but things changed a lot.

I don't uderstand how the hell you can tell people to smarten up because one, you assume our wants are your wants and two, you assume I have to be satisfied with what there is. I am not disappointed with me wii at all but posts like this are annoying because all they do is list games and say "be satisfied", why should people. Unique experiences on the wii are not even that common to begin with, how many Zdub level titles are on the system? The answer is very few. This forum is is annoying because its the same, Jasonguy makes thread, crap ensues after, which characters do you want in new smash bros, complain/love the conduit etc crap every day. No one makes new threads and no one tries to start conversation above the popular opinion. I know why I bought my wii and what I wanted, you have no clue as to why, do not tell me what I should conform by, it is unbeleivably annoying.

[QUOTE="stike22"] I wasn't expecting Wii to be a clone, I was just stating that X360 has more games, I just exected a better standard then this from Nintendo, like you know instead of 70% of Wii's game being shovelware and gimmicks they could actually make more good games. I was expecting them to make games quicker because they don't require the physics and graphs of high graph games, I was expecting better quality and quanity, I was expecting at least one good RPG by now, I was expecting a Starfox or F-zero game at least one game by now, I was expecting that they might be able to come up with a useful channel...basically I was expecting better from Nintendo.Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"] Nice try. The difference is that I was knocking a title AFTER release, and one that the vast majority were not excited about. I only knocked it in threads about the reviews it was getting, not in threads about... say... what preorder bonuses come with it, or the like. Nor did I try to make people stop complaining, and use it as an example of why they should stop complaining. That would be hypocritical of me. ;) And yes, you do want the title to fail. Or at least not do well. You told me as much. Do you really want me to quote-own you? :P You want it to do poorly so that games like it don't come to Wii. You want it to do worse than the games you deem "unique" and "original". Haziqonfire

I used it as an example because I know people are looking forward to it - its the same reason its in my sticky thread.

And yes, I did say I wanted it to fail before, but it was more to get a raise. I actually mean I just don't want to see the Wii become like the other two in terms of how many shooters get released.

I've said many times before I'm glad at the amount of effort HVS is putting into making a Wii title - but those aspects of that title don't appeal to me - and yes, I am tired of the hype for the visuals, because I just truly do not see it.

When I bought a Wii, I was excepting innovation (which I got), fun (which I got), and a boat load of titles( which I don't got). The Wii isn't a clone if it has a lot of good games. That means its being a better system. When you bought a Wii were you expecting mediocrity?

Hungry_Jello

Not all of us have the same standards as you. In fact your standards seem a bit low.

I know Nintendo doesn't make shovelware but there console sure as hell has a lot of it, the most in history in fact.stike22

Complete BS. Every market leader had as much, or even more, shovelware in the past - which is just logical. Happened to PS2, GBA, etc.

[QUOTE="stike22"]I know Nintendo doesn't make shovelware but there console sure as hell has a lot of it, the most in history in fact.MangaPicture

Complete BS. Every market leader had as much, or even more, shovelware in the past - which is just logical. Happened to PS2, GBA, etc.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="stike22"] I wasn't expecting Wii to be a clone, I was just stating that X360 has more games, I just exected a better standard then this from Nintendo, like you know instead of 70% of Wii's game being shovelware and gimmicks they could actually make more good games. I was expecting them to make games quicker because they don't require the physics and graphs of high graph games, I was expecting better quality and quanity, I was expecting at least one good RPG by now, I was expecting a Starfox or F-zero game at least one game by now, I was expecting that they might be able to come up with a useful channel...basically I was expecting better from Nintendo.stike22

They bought the Wii for 3 things: Zelda,Mario and Smash Bros. That's it.

With the popularity of these franchise there is just so many wannabes "long time Nintendo fans" who are usually the one complaining about what Nintendo is doing right now.

Sadly "wannabes" Nintendo fans far outweight the real fans and those guys are afraid to buy a 50$ without Mario or Zelda in the title.

Huh, Kirby coming soon? That should be good.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="stike22"] I wasn't expecting Wii to be a clone, I was just stating that X360 has more games, I just exected a better standard then this from Nintendo, like you know instead of 70% of Wii's game being shovelware and gimmicks they could actually make more good games. I was expecting them to make games quicker because they don't require the physics and graphs of high graph games, I was expecting better quality and quanity, I was expecting at least one good RPG by now, I was expecting a Starfox or F-zero game at least one game by now, I was expecting that they might be able to come up with a useful channel...basically I was expecting better from Nintendo.stike22

Shovelware on the Wii is pretty out of control, but most in history? Oh, my friend, please. I'm not going to get into numbers here, but apparently you weren't around for the tidal waves of 'make a quick buck' garbage games that helped cause the downfall of early video games in the days of the 2600 and the NES was absolutely bombarded with it, even after Nintendo created lockout chips and limited developers to 3 game releases per year. Hell, even the PS2 had an incomparable amount of it.

Shovelware is an issue, but only if you're uninformed enough to buy it.

[QUOTE="stike22"]I know Nintendo doesn't make shovelware but there console sure as hell has a lot of it, the most in history in fact.MangaPicture

Complete BS. Every market leader had as much, or even more, shovelware in the past - which is just logical. Happened to PS2, GBA, etc.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

People are always complaining that there are no core titles from Nintendo, yet they seem to forgot what exactly Nintendo has done since the Wii released.

• The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - It launched with the friggin console!
• Super Smash Bros Brawl
• Super Mario Galaxy
• Mario Kart Wii
• Battalion Wars 2
• Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
• Animal Crossing: City Folk
• Warioland: Shake It!
• Mario Strikers: Charged
• Excite Trucks
• Excitebots
• Super Paper Mario
• NPC! Titles
• Introduction of WiiWare - which has been fantastic
• CONSTANTLY improving Virtual Console and adding tons of titles
• Giving us a microphone perpipheral
• Opening up SD card slots to up to 32GB or space, saving WiiWare and VC titles on the SDCard

[...] Yet you guys want more? I don't get it. Nintendo has done a butt load for you consumers yet your still not satisfied?

VGobbsesser

Perhaps I was dissatisfied or disappointed by the points on your list.I care less about how much Nintendo has done,and more about the quality of what they've done.

They bought the Wii for 3 things: Zelda,Mario and Smash Bros. That's it.

With the popularity of these franchise there is just so many wannabes "long time Nintendo fans" who are usually the one complaining about what Nintendo is doing right now.

Sadly "wannabes" Nintendo fans far outweight the real fans and those guys are afraid to buy a 50$ without Mario or Zelda in the title.

Stephleref

Nintendo is a big boy, it doesn't need anyone defending it.If there's someone unsatisfied with their service(which is understandable) it's Nintendo's fault, not their own.

sounds like your a pretty hardcore nintendo fanyboy... but anyways i cant remember why i bought my wii in the first place. havent played in months...

release a game that has alot of replay value like really good multiplayer, than i'll be interested.

The Wii forums are in a pretty sick state. The forum is full of people complaining about lack of software or lack of care from Nintendo.

Haziqonfire

I actually feel that people here are a lot happier with Nintendo now-a-days. The responses from Nintendo's GDC annoucements (Zelda Spirit Tracks & Wii Storage Solution) have been 99.9% positive. People here are actually excited about this year's E3 now. I haven't seen a lot of Nintendo complaints lately.

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About the "Me Too" argument, you know this argument will never ever end, right? Both sides have valid points of view and concerns. So, we just have to respect each other's opinions and leave it as that. There is no point in arguing about it to death in hopes that one side will win over the other.

[QUOTE="stike22"]Just so we all know I was just exaggerating my point and I am fully aware of back in the NES days of gaming however that was back then, and the PS2 at least made up for it by making a hell of a lot of good games. The Wii...do me favour get the first flight to the UK and check in a shop watch how you get physically assaulted by the shelves of the crap, its awful should that be happening in this gen? no it shouldn't. Its a serious problem with the Wii that a high percentage of games for Wii are shovelware, thats a problem that neither of the other two consoles have. But thats not the point, the point is that Wii could be doing a hell of a lot better.Pices

Nintendo is a big boy, it doesn't need anyone defending it.If there's someone unsatisfied with their service(which is understandable) it's Nintendo's fault, not their own.

Elpio_Brazil

[QUOTE="Elpio_Brazil"]

Nintendo is a big boy, it doesn't need anyone defending it.If there's someone unsatisfied with their service(which is understandable) it's Nintendo's fault, not their own.

stike22

Out of all the 150-300 other games, you were only able to pick out a dozen?

Sorry,but I going to keep complaining until they offer a dozen other games worth mentioning in this forum. Not like their arn't any good games out there. It's just that almost everyone has had their wii long enough to play all the games you listed, heck! Everyone could played them 50 times and their still wasn't any other good games to go out and buy. But mabye your right and we could be seeing a light at the end of the tunnel with all of the new spring titles coming out. Or you could be wrong.

I agree with the Haziqonfire. The Wii does have a good libraray of games, IMO. Yes, there is alot of shovelware, I think we get that freaking point already, so what? It's not like the "casual" games detract the value from the "hardcore" titles, and I do not recall Nintendo forcing anyone to buy this shovelware. If you don't like the Wii, then fine, sell your Wii, use that money to get another system or another system's games or whatever (and while I am at it, WTH are you even doing here in the Wii forums if you don't like the Wii?), but understand that plenty of other people such as me and Haziqonfire think that the Wii have plenty of quality titles. The Wii also has plenty to offer on the Virtual Console and Wiiware, and as a Nintendo fan, I am certainly pleased the Wii has backwards compatibility with the GC, which is a first for Nintendo consoles.

All in all, if you look past the typical shovelware, then you can find plenty of the hardcore titles that you look for. that's what I do, and I have had no porblem getting a good collection of Wii games because of it. And for the most part, any game on the GC has had another title in it's series added on the Wii, such as the Smash Bros series, or Metroid Prime series, Or Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, etc. Nintendo is just trying to appeal to the types of gamers it has always tried to appeal to, and now it is doing the same with the Wii, it's just that now it's also trying to appeal to the casual, that is all. It is still focusing to the Nintendo fan.

And another game to look forward to that is not on Haziqonfire's list is Tales of Grace, another RPG to look forward to on the Wii, along with Arc Rise Fantasia, and then he also forgot Muramasa: Demon Blade, which looks rather promising if I do say so myself. ;)

your right im sick of people complaining of the wii if they dont like the wii then dont come to the forums keep it to your self and if you dont like the wii think it's dissapointing then go play ps3 or x-box 360 like others have done shesh i enjoy the wii and it has many great games including new title,virtual console and wiiware plus the channels