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It's not that big a deal but the DS demos only stay up for a limited time. I haven't been on it for a week or so but I went on it yesterday to try the Ninja Gaiden DS demo and it was gone. When I went to try Ace Wright Attorney at law it said date of distribution ends 5/18 meaning it is gone now as well.
I always thought they would have been there permanently or at least longer than a few weeks.
Just thought I would warn those who were unaware like I was.
They took them down? What are they thinking. It's not like you can play the whole game with the demo... or can you? This is just more evidence that Nintendo doesn't know what the heck they are doing with online services.raahsnavjI really hate having to agree with you on that, really I do.
They took them down? What are they thinking. It's not like you can play the whole game with the demo... or can you? This is just more evidence that Nintendo doesn't know what the heck they are doing with online services.raahsnavj
Are you aware of how fast DS titles sell out?
One of last week's demos is almost out of print.
[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]They took them down? What are they thinking. It's not like you can play the whole game with the demo... or can you? This is just more evidence that Nintendo doesn't know what the heck they are doing with online services.Cesar_BarbaI really hate having to agree with you on that, really I do.
I think for the first time, I may actually kind of disagree with you two. They need to keep it clean. If the DS Demo page just keeps on building up with the amount of demos they've been adding every week, it'll just be a mess. It doesn't need to be like another Shop Channel.
Besides, giving people a week to try out demos then adding new ones every week encourages more return visits and uses of the feature. I've enjoyed sitting down for an hour trying out the demos I want and then looking forward to what they'll have the next week. It's not like any of the demos have an ounce of re-playability. I personally think it's fine.
I really hate having to agree with you on that, really I do.[QUOTE="Cesar_Barba"][QUOTE="raahsnavj"]They took them down? What are they thinking. It's not like you can play the whole game with the demo... or can you? This is just more evidence that Nintendo doesn't know what the heck they are doing with online services.ozzsoad
I think for the first time, I may actually kind of disagree with you two. They need to keep it clean. If the DS Demo page just keeps on building up with the amount of demos they've been adding every week, it'll just be a mess. It doesn't need to be like another Shop Channel.
Besides, giving people a week to try out demos then adding new ones every week encourages more return visits and uses of the feature. I've enjoyed sitting down for an hour trying out the demos I want and then looking forward to what they'll have the next week. It's not like any of the demos have an ounce of re-playability. I personally think it's fine.
You're right on that, it's just that I was hoping that Nintendo would leave the demos up for at least a month before removing them.I really wanted to try the Ninja Gaiden demo. I kind of put it off a little to play Mario Kart, I did not have a chance to do so, then again it is my fault. Now that I know how the service works, I will be more aware of the demos in place.By the way, I just went to the demo channel and the games that expired on the 18th are still there and can be downloaded to play.JaysonguyProblem avoided I suppose. I was just thinking about me as a person who has not purchased a DS. when I finally do it would be nice to have a ton of demos to go look at (like I did when I got my XBOX). If they are still up. Works for me. If the interface is getting cluttered and that is the reason they would take them down, I would reevaluate my GUI development team skill level, not remove the demos.
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]By the way, I just went to the demo channel and the games that expired on the 18th are still there and can be downloaded to play.raahsnavjProblem avoided I suppose. I was just thinking about me as a person who has not purchased a DS. when I finally do it would be nice to have a ton of demos to go look at (like I did when I got my XBOX). If they are still up. Works for me. If the interface is getting cluttered and that is the reason they would take them down, I would reevaluate my GUI development team skill level, not remove the demos.
You can't do that because many of them are going to be out of print.
What's the point of making people interested in games they can't buy anymore?
Problem avoided I suppose. I was just thinking about me as a person who has not purchased a DS. when I finally do it would be nice to have a ton of demos to go look at (like I did when I got my XBOX). If they are still up. Works for me. If the interface is getting cluttered and that is the reason they would take them down, I would reevaluate my GUI development team skill level, not remove the demos.[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]By the way, I just went to the demo channel and the games that expired on the 18th are still there and can be downloaded to play.Jaysonguy
You can't do that because many of them are going to be out of print.
What's the point of making people interested in games they can't buy anymore?
Just because it is out of print doesn't mean I can't get my hands on it via some classics dealer or something; you can buy anything dating all the way back to the atari days on ebay if you want.
Problem avoided I suppose. I was just thinking about me as a person who has not purchased a DS. when I finally do it would be nice to have a ton of demos to go look at (like I did when I got my XBOX). If they are still up. Works for me. If the interface is getting cluttered and that is the reason they would take them down, I would reevaluate my GUI development team skill level, not remove the demos.[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]By the way, I just went to the demo channel and the games that expired on the 18th are still there and can be downloaded to play.Jaysonguy
You can't do that because many of them are going to be out of print.
What's the point of making people interested in games they can't buy anymore?
Just because they're out of print doesn't mean they're sold out in stores. You could probably find the games you played demos of likely for at the very least a couple of months, so removing them so prematurely is just stupid.
[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]They took them down? What are they thinking. It's not like you can play the whole game with the demo... or can you? This is just more evidence that Nintendo doesn't know what the heck they are doing with online services.Cesar_BarbaI really hate having to agree with you on that, really I do. ya the nieed to get ther vision straight
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Problem avoided I suppose. I was just thinking about me as a person who has not purchased a DS. when I finally do it would be nice to have a ton of demos to go look at (like I did when I got my XBOX). If they are still up. Works for me. If the interface is getting cluttered and that is the reason they would take them down, I would reevaluate my GUI development team skill level, not remove the demos.[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]By the way, I just went to the demo channel and the games that expired on the 18th are still there and can be downloaded to play.metroidfood
You can't do that because many of them are going to be out of print.
What's the point of making people interested in games they can't buy anymore?
Just because they're out of print doesn't mean they're sold out in stores. You could probably find the games you played demos of likely for at the very least a couple of months, so removing them so prematurely is just stupid.
Yeah, but Nintendo has already made their money by shipping (and therefore selling) these last copies to the stores. It is no longer in their hands, and is no longer any of their business. It's now on the dealers (EBGames, Gamestop, etc) to sell them. Why advertise a product that doesn't bring them a penny?
Unless I'm mistaken and stores can ship games back and get a refund (though I doubt it, considering the existence of "bargain bins").
[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Problem avoided I suppose. I was just thinking about me as a person who has not purchased a DS. when I finally do it would be nice to have a ton of demos to go look at (like I did when I got my XBOX). If they are still up. Works for me. If the interface is getting cluttered and that is the reason they would take them down, I would reevaluate my GUI development team skill level, not remove the demos.[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]By the way, I just went to the demo channel and the games that expired on the 18th are still there and can be downloaded to play.raahsnavj
You can't do that because many of them are going to be out of print.
What's the point of making people interested in games they can't buy anymore?
Just because it is out of print doesn't mean I can't get my hands on it via some classics dealer or something; you can buy anything dating all the way back to the atari days on ebay if you want.Now you're going very far away from mainstream to a very small niche market.
It's not even the gamer market either because I know people who never touch used games and when you go for wrapped you're talking 50-90 dollars (more then double of original retail)
These demos are advertising and you only run ads as long as the product is viable. It's the same reason we don't see ads on TV for Rocky 3 in theaters or the 79 Ford Granada. It doesn't make sense to "tease" users with products they can't readily get.
[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Problem avoided I suppose. I was just thinking about me as a person who has not purchased a DS. when I finally do it would be nice to have a ton of demos to go look at (like I did when I got my XBOX). If they are still up. Works for me. If the interface is getting cluttered and that is the reason they would take them down, I would reevaluate my GUI development team skill level, not remove the demos.[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]By the way, I just went to the demo channel and the games that expired on the 18th are still there and can be downloaded to play.Jaysonguy
You can't do that because many of them are going to be out of print.
What's the point of making people interested in games they can't buy anymore?
Just because it is out of print doesn't mean I can't get my hands on it via some classics dealer or something; you can buy anything dating all the way back to the atari days on ebay if you want.Now you're going very far away from mainstream to a very small niche market.
It's not even the gamer market either because I know people who never touch used games and when you go for wrapped you're talking 50-90 dollars (more then double of original retail)
These demos are advertising and you only run ads as long as the product is viable. It's the same reason we don't see ads on TV for Rocky 3 in theaters or the 79 Ford Granada. It doesn't make sense to "tease" users with products they can't readily get.
I can't believe I'm getting myself into this but jaysonguy and bob newman are right in every way (if it was bob newman that was agreeing with jaysonguy, I can't remember) but why keep it on, I'm glad I get new flavour, I don't have any of the games but if it gets cluttered they would have to organize it, also they might as well make demoes of every DS game made yet and in the future, (including there more than I think it was 400 at least DS games) so if you want to sort through every game than you are one of the odd few who want everything.And I agree with the last poster of page 1 (I think) it's free, nintendo doesn't have to give us DS demoes at all, they don't get monney at all off it unless people look at the information of the game but you can actually get impressions on the internet where the nintendo channel just gives you basic footage of the game, so be thankful considering we are actually getting something Peace.
[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Problem avoided I suppose. I was just thinking about me as a person who has not purchased a DS. when I finally do it would be nice to have a ton of demos to go look at (like I did when I got my XBOX). If they are still up. Works for me. If the interface is getting cluttered and that is the reason they would take them down, I would reevaluate my GUI development team skill level, not remove the demos.[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]By the way, I just went to the demo channel and the games that expired on the 18th are still there and can be downloaded to play.Jaysonguy
You can't do that because many of them are going to be out of print.
What's the point of making people interested in games they can't buy anymore?
Just because it is out of print doesn't mean I can't get my hands on it via some classics dealer or something; you can buy anything dating all the way back to the atari days on ebay if you want.Now you're going very far away from mainstream to a very small niche market.
It's not even the gamer market either because I know people who never touch used games and when you go for wrapped you're talking 50-90 dollars (more then double of original retail)
These demos are advertising and you only run ads as long as the product is viable. It's the same reason we don't see ads on TV for Rocky 3 in theaters or the 79 Ford Granada. It doesn't make sense to "tease" users with products they can't readily get.
Whatever. Defend them. You're right though... they couldn't make money off the demos, that's why they invented Wiiware. Now you can pay for not only demo equivalent experiences but you can pay for addition content to add to your demo. AWESOME. I love the way nintendo is taking innovation... back to the 80's. Only you have to pay now.[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Problem avoided I suppose. I was just thinking about me as a person who has not purchased a DS. when I finally do it would be nice to have a ton of demos to go look at (like I did when I got my XBOX). If they are still up. Works for me. If the interface is getting cluttered and that is the reason they would take them down, I would reevaluate my GUI development team skill level, not remove the demos.[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]By the way, I just went to the demo channel and the games that expired on the 18th are still there and can be downloaded to play.raahsnavj
You can't do that because many of them are going to be out of print.
What's the point of making people interested in games they can't buy anymore?
Just because it is out of print doesn't mean I can't get my hands on it via some classics dealer or something; you can buy anything dating all the way back to the atari days on ebay if you want.Now you're going very far away from mainstream to a very small niche market.
It's not even the gamer market either because I know people who never touch used games and when you go for wrapped you're talking 50-90 dollars (more then double of original retail)
These demos are advertising and you only run ads as long as the product is viable. It's the same reason we don't see ads on TV for Rocky 3 in theaters or the 79 Ford Granada. It doesn't make sense to "tease" users with products they can't readily get.
Whatever. Defend them. You're right though... they couldn't make money off the demos, that's why they invented Wiiware. Now you can pay for not only demo equivalent experiences but you can pay for addition content to add to your demo. AWESOME. I love the way nintendo is taking innovation... back to the 80's. Only you have to pay now.Ok, now you're going way off course
1. This was about the DS downloads, not WiiWare. Lots of people are enjoying the games on WiiWare and feel their money is well spent when they pick up a title. To say they're just demos is wrong.
2. I tell people to research because it's free and they're already here, it's convenient. I have no problem tracking down a sealed out of print game if I want it badly but that's not the mainstream. The mainstream wants to play a demo and have it at whatever retailer they choose. They don't want to spend time trying to track down the first Advance Wars and when they do they don't want to pay more then double for it.
You're making it out that Nintendo is doing this because it saves them money, they're doing it so they don't tick off the customers. It's not good PR to say "Oh do you love that game you just tried? Good luck finding it!"
[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Problem avoided I suppose. I was just thinking about me as a person who has not purchased a DS. when I finally do it would be nice to have a ton of demos to go look at (like I did when I got my XBOX). If they are still up. Works for me. If the interface is getting cluttered and that is the reason they would take them down, I would reevaluate my GUI development team skill level, not remove the demos.[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]By the way, I just went to the demo channel and the games that expired on the 18th are still there and can be downloaded to play.Jaysonguy
You can't do that because many of them are going to be out of print.
What's the point of making people interested in games they can't buy anymore?
Just because it is out of print doesn't mean I can't get my hands on it via some classics dealer or something; you can buy anything dating all the way back to the atari days on ebay if you want.Now you're going very far away from mainstream to a very small niche market.
It's not even the gamer market either because I know people who never touch used games and when you go for wrapped you're talking 50-90 dollars (more then double of original retail)
These demos are advertising and you only run ads as long as the product is viable. It's the same reason we don't see ads on TV for Rocky 3 in theaters or the 79 Ford Granada. It doesn't make sense to "tease" users with products they can't readily get.
Whatever. Defend them. You're right though... they couldn't make money off the demos, that's why they invented Wiiware. Now you can pay for not only demo equivalent experiences but you can pay for addition content to add to your demo. AWESOME. I love the way nintendo is taking innovation... back to the 80's. Only you have to pay now.Ok, now you're going way off course
1. This was about the DS downloads, not WiiWare. Lots of people are enjoying the games on WiiWare and feel their money is well spent when they pick up a title. To say they're just demos is wrong.
2. I tell people to research because it's free and they're already here, it's convenient. I have no problem tracking down a sealed out of print game if I want it badly but that's not the mainstream. The mainstream wants to play a demo and have it at whatever retailer they choose. They don't want to spend time trying to track down the first Advance Wars and when they do they don't want to pay more then double for it.
You're making it out that Nintendo is doing this because it saves them money, they're doing it so they don't tick off the customers. It's not good PR to say "Oh do you love that game you just tried? Good luck finding it!"
OK. I'll leave Wiiware out of it. I think it sucks though. Straight opinion of course.[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]Problem avoided I suppose. I was just thinking about me as a person who has not purchased a DS. when I finally do it would be nice to have a ton of demos to go look at (like I did when I got my XBOX). If they are still up. Works for me. If the interface is getting cluttered and that is the reason they would take them down, I would reevaluate my GUI development team skill level, not remove the demos.[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]By the way, I just went to the demo channel and the games that expired on the 18th are still there and can be downloaded to play.Jaysonguy
You can't do that because many of them are going to be out of print.
What's the point of making people interested in games they can't buy anymore?
Just because it is out of print doesn't mean I can't get my hands on it via some classics dealer or something; you can buy anything dating all the way back to the atari days on ebay if you want.Now you're going very far away from mainstream to a very small niche market.
It's not even the gamer market either because I know people who never touch used games and when you go for wrapped you're talking 50-90 dollars (more then double of original retail)
These demos are advertising and you only run ads as long as the product is viable. It's the same reason we don't see ads on TV for Rocky 3 in theaters or the 79 Ford Granada. It doesn't make sense to "tease" users with products they can't readily get.
Whatever. Defend them. You're right though... they couldn't make money off the demos, that's why they invented Wiiware. Now you can pay for not only demo equivalent experiences but you can pay for addition content to add to your demo. AWESOME. I love the way nintendo is taking innovation... back to the 80's. Only you have to pay now.Ok, now you're going way off course
1. This was about the DS downloads, not WiiWare. Lots of people are enjoying the games on WiiWare and feel their money is well spent when they pick up a title. To say they're just demos is wrong.
2. I tell people to research because it's free and they're already here, it's convenient. I have no problem tracking down a sealed out of print game if I want it badly but that's not the mainstream. The mainstream wants to play a demo and have it at whatever retailer they choose. They don't want to spend time trying to track down the first Advance Wars and when they do they don't want to pay more then double for it.
You're making it out that Nintendo is doing this because it saves them money, they're doing it so they don't tick off the customers. It's not good PR to say "Oh do you love that game you just tried? Good luck finding it!"
I'll agree with that part.
We're all aware of outrageous 'out of print' pricing. If they started making demos of Hotel Dusk, Phoenix Wright 1, or Electroplankton available, some eBay members would be rich. But it sure wouldn't do any good for Nintendo.
OK. I'll leave Wiiware out of it. I think it sucks though. Straight opinion of course.
I'll have to send a Thank you note to Nintendo for saving me of the frustration of wanting a game an not being able to find it. It's a good thing they didn't do that with their console, or Wii fit... What a BS defense Jaysonguy.
raahsnavj
What!? It's business strategy.
Nintendo still owns (and profits from) Wii console and Wii Fit. They do NOT own (do not profit from) sold/used DS games.
[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]
OK. I'll leave Wiiware out of it. I think it sucks though. Straight opinion of course.
I'll have to send a Thank you note to Nintendo for saving me of the frustration of wanting a game an not being able to find it. It's a good thing they didn't do that with their console, or Wii fit... What a BS defense Jaysonguy.
Hells_Hammer
What!? It's business strategy.
Nintendo still owns (and profits from) Wii console and Wii Fit. They do NOT own (do not profit from) sold/used DS games.
At this point I was doing little more than debunking Jaysonguy's defense of saying nintendo doesn't want the bad PR of "Oh do you love that game you just tried? Good luck finding it!" Seeming you agreed with that I call BS as they have been pulling that since the Wii release... And they will continue to do it as long as possible. And you pointed out they own the console and Wii fit so what does it do to help those they don't profit from?... I don't know they could try and surprise us with amazing features that we just didn't expect from a money hungry company... but I guess we will have to do with what they throw to us.Please Log In to post.
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