Least favorite/Worst change made to SSBB

What do you think was the worst thing they changed in the new Smash Bros? I hate the fact that they took out Mario's down special and replaced it with FLUUD (or FLUDD, flame me if need be) his old special was a great percentage racker and a great way to get out of getting combo'd into a corner, FLUUD, or DUD I should say is a pitiful knockback special that takes way too long to set-up for less than spectacular results. I was happy however that they mixed up the specials for characters like Fox and Falco which were way too similar (Not to mention cheap) in SSBMelee. Another thing I loathe is the final smash, some are far too overwhelming when others hardly whelm at all, way too unbalanced and give off that 'Blue shell' vibe if you ask me, discuss?

The removal of L canceling, wavedashing, hitstun, combos, classic mode and break the targets being "dumbed"down.

i think that's pretty much it

i miss board the platforms from the n64

characters randomly slipping. i don't think the game should take the control of my character away from me at random, even if it's just for a moment.presto7640

man i hate that too.

The removal of all the bonusses in the single-player mode removed a lot of fun out of said mode. Also, is it just me, or does Master Hand seem to get weaker with every installment?

Another thing I loathe is the final smash, some are far too overwhelming when others hardly whelm at all, way too unbalanced and give off that 'Blue shell' vibe if you ask me, discuss?"

KevComesRipping

If you don't like the Final Smash Ball, you can always disable it; or, you can diable all the items if you like.

Triping. If I'm correct, it was made to help the n00bs out, but I've been able to use it to roll out of the way of an on coming attacker and then nail them with a smash.

Mario's FLUDD, eh. I can't say I hate it. It has saved me in GameStops midnight tourney so I'm fine with it. We didn't chose characters, I died once to a Meta, then to save himself he glided off at 5 seconds left, went to far, and I pushed him away and he fell to his doom. Then sudden death, I Up B'ed him for an easy KO.

I think the stages in Brawl suck in comparison to Melee.OniStrat

I like the Melee stages better too. A lot of the Brawl stages seem too far 'over the top' to me.

Oh, I also really dislike that split second of lag while the server registers your moves. Maybe there was nothing they could do about that, but it's sure annoying.

There were a few better choices they could have made for Melee stages. I miss Fourside, even though we already have Onett. Other than that, the choices were great. Yoshi's Island, Onett, Rainbow Cruise, and Corneria were some of my favorite SSBM stages. They should have picked Fountain of Dreams over Green Greens, though.

Other than that, I was disappointed that a lot of trophies were not original creations as they were in SSBM. Many were identical to renders from previous games. I also miss the bonuses after matches, like Chuck Wagon, Triple KO, Cheap KO, No R 4 U, etc. I don't see why those were removed.

increased floatiness and decreased hitstun are the worst changes

the online is the worst addition

plus everything is too automatic now:

auto tethering - should be able to tether the side of the stage rather than always the edge and get easily gimped

auto cancel - some characters like marth with his f-air are ridiculous while some already low tier and slow characters relied on L-cancelling in melee got screwed

auto edge grab - edge teching was so rewarding

running upsmash - should still have to jump cancel it. if we can just slap the c-stick up then we should be able to do the same with d-smash and f-smash

auto fastfall on some d-airs - not fluid and limits option of ffing in the middle

an option of Automatic / Manual would be nice, like racing games for shifting gears or mario kart with automatic sliding

The removal of Roy.

Yes. I did like to mix it up instead of using Marth.

Roy was our boy :(

Random slippering? Tripping? WTF are you people taking about??? I don't even know that stuff. I'm still a noob I guess....

I don't like C. Falcon in Brawl... I want to but I keep losing with him. lol And the load times are too long.

also the SOME of the final smashes for example: Zelda/Shiek i mean wow thats easy three kills right there also theres sonic wow.

but then i remembered that classic isnt random anymore WOW but brawl still owns i mean it pretty much has all the good melee stages so why complain about that

I really didn't like the Subspace Emissary. I think Melee got the Adventure mode right before and that this new version is just way too much. I also hate how you can unlock almost all the characters by playing the Subspace Emissary.

Also I agree with whoever said the Final Smash moves are way too unbalanced. Just look at Olimar's Final Smash compared to Kirby's or Peach's.

These 3 changes have already been posted, but they still stand out for me:

1. Random Tripping
2. The removal of those point bonuses (such as "No R 4 U" and "Star KO") from the cIassic mode
3. The loss of individuality for the "Break the Targets" stages

These 3 changes have already been posted, but they still stand out for me:

1. Random Tripping
2. The removal of those point bonuses (such as "No R 4 U" and "Star KO") from the cIassic mode
3. The loss of individuality for the "Break the Targets" stages

UltimateXShadow

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IKE.

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Lord_Omikron666

I hate the whole final smash gimmick the most; when your enemy gets it, you feel like you've been cheated; when you get it and use it, you feel like you cheated.

But I also get tired pretty quick of the moving stages. I appreciate the nostalgic sidescrolling Mushroom Kingdom stages, but the only way I want get taken out of the stage is by being thrown or hit out, not getting pushed out by a wall.

Adventure mode takes way too long and gets old fast, having to beat all the subspace minions who seem to me like ripoffs of heartless from the Kingdom Hearts series. I'm still trying to unlock Sonic in it... The cutscenes are pretty awesome, though.

On a lighter note, Yoshi finally looks like himself.

I have to admit Mario's Fludd is pretty bad.

The few things that I disliked about Brawl were the dumbing down of the break the targets, and the quality and balance of some of the stages. I felt that Brawl had several stages that were unnecessary and also that certain franchises had too many stages where as certain franchises only had a single stage.

75m (too big), the classic Mario Bros. stage (awkward), Mushroomy Kingdom (bland), Rumble Falls (I didn't mind the scolling, it is just that the stage doesn't feel like a DK stage should), etc. I don't mind random stages i.e Pictochat, but at least they could have made them a little better for fighting.

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TwilightSoilder

Ike isn't cheap learn to dodge!

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IKE.

CHEAPEST CHARACTER EVAH!

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eat lightning and crap thundah!!!!!!!

shadowlink797

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My least favorite change is the lack of the bonuses you'd get after battles or stages in single-player, like cheap shot and item hog.meinink2y

I completely agree. I could'nt think of anything wrong with the game but that is it. One of my favorite parts of Melee was to check what bonuses I did or did'nt get. Other than that, the game is a flawless masterpiece.

[QUOTE="meinink2y"]My least favorite change is the lack of the bonuses you'd get after battles or stages in single-player, like cheap shot and item hog.Neo737

I completely agree. I could'nt think of anything wrong with the game but that is it. One of my favorite parts of Melee was to check what bonuses I did or did'nt get. Other than that, the game is a flawless masterpiece.

The slower (than Melee's) pace.

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IKE.

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eat lightning and crap thundah!!!!!!!

TwilightSoilder

Ike isn't cheap learn to dodge!

[QUOTE="TwilightSoilder"][QUOTE="shadowlink797"][QUOTE="TwilightSoilder"][QUOTE="Lord_Omikron666"][QUOTE="Ngamer07"]

IKE.

CHEAPEST CHARACTER EVAH!

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eat lightning and crap thundah!!!!!!!

Lord_Omikron666

Ike isn't cheap learn to dodge!