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#1 coltonnaslund
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Do you guys think that in Brawl they will actually have computers that are a little bit of a challenge......because honestly the level 9 computers in Melee were far too easy

I personally hope 9 is like REALLY hard to beat....so I have a challenge

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#2 EndlessPunisher
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Should be, but the comps were only difficult to beat them 1 vs 3.. so I agree with you.
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#3 helium_flash
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The problem with the level 9s where that all the computers were predictable. If Bowser was above you, he would try to do a ground pound. If Ganandorf is next to you, he will do his Up B move. Luigi will almost NEVER use his Up B, and Link takes out his bomb much more than he should.

They have to make them less predictable, because battling 3 other Ganandorfs at the same time on level 9 is still really hard.

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#4 KAL_MAN
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I think they should up the number to like.. 15-20. that shoukd definately make it harder.
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#5 ZumaJones07
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The problem with the level 9s where that all the computers were predictable. If Bowser was above you, he would try to do a ground pound. If Ganandorf is next to you, he will do his Up B move. Luigi will almost NEVER use his Up B, and Link takes out his bomb much more than he should.

They have to make them less predictable, because battling 3 other Ganandorfs at the same time on level 9 is still really hard.

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Exactly... anyone above ganondorf and in his range will be UP B'd I hope they have levels pat level 9... maybe they could have more of a handicap as they go up and they use all of their attacks. for instance...jigglypuff using a fully charged rollout when your shield breaks or you are asleep... just make them smarter
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#6 EndlessPunisher
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[QUOTE="helium_flash"]

The problem with the level 9s where that all the computers were predictable. If Bowser was above you, he would try to do a ground pound. If Ganandorf is next to you, he will do his Up B move. Luigi will almost NEVER use his Up B, and Link takes out his bomb much more than he should.

They have to make them less predictable, because battling 3 other Ganandorfs at the same time on level 9 is still really hard.

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Exactly... anyone above ganondorf and in his range will be UP B'd I hope they have levels pat level 9... maybe they could have more of a handicap as they go up and they use all of their attacks. for instance...jigglypuff using a fully charged rollout when your shield breaks or you are asleep... just make them smarter

Luigi's AI was down right stupid.. whe he would fall up a cliff he would use the Right B move when the Up B move wouldve saved him. Seriously though has anyone ever tried hanging on the edges on the Sm2 map and just watch him die doing his right and b move.
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#7 KAL_MAN
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I agree about the ganondorf and C. falcon up-b move. all I had to do to prevent them from getting back on stage was use marth's down-a move in the air. they would fly to the bottom of the screen so fast... lol:)
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#8 ZumaJones07
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[QUOTE="EndlessPunisher"] Luigi's AI was down right stupid.. whe he would fall up a cliff he would use the Right B move when the Up B move wouldve saved him. Seriously though has anyone ever tried hanging on the edges on the Sm2 map and just watch him die doing his right and b move.

lol.... back when i sucked... that's how i unlocked him after failing the first time he tried to hit me...i jumped... he died...i got him :D
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#9 JLAudio7
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they should have a really easy mode, and a really f-ing pull-your-hair-out hard mode
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#10 St_muscat
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If anything they will make it easier for causal people and then tell Hardcore gamers to go online for a good match.
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#11 Stuffed_Monkey
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Yeah, they will probably just keep it at level 9 and since they are probably addingonline there is your challenge. However, it would be cool if they added a few more levels. If they could make it up to 15 that would be awesome but I highly doubt it.
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#12 lilkikerman4450
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yea smarter computers would be great instead of waiting for them to make there predictable move so i can counter it
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#13 0v3rcl0ck3d
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You guys are crazy lol I had a tough time beating the cpu after level 7
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#14 EddyPee
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It'll be the same. They may seem easy to you now, but that's probably only because you spent hours playing them and getting your ass kicked and slowly getting better.

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#15 EddyPee
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It'll be the same. They may seem easy to you now, but that's probably only because you spent hours playing them and getting your ass kicked and slowly getting better.

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#16 luke1889
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Level 9s weren't crazily hard, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that they were easy. Far from it.

Having said that, I would like to see the difficulty increased slightly in Brawl, just to add that extra bit of challenge.

Looking back though, Event Match 51 in Melee was pretty tough though.

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#17 -CheeseEater-
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Should be, but the comps were only difficult to beat them 1 vs 3.. so I agree with you.EndlessPunisher
I to agree.
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#18 Korubi
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I always thought 9 was kind of an odd number. How about 10 to even i out? Either way, like someone said earlier the biggest challenge will be online :)
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#19 donaldo1989
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There is really nothing they can do to make the CPU harder. The only thing I can think of that may not actually be possible would be a level where the CPU learns your playing style and then programs itself to counter it
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#20 chocolate1325
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I only a few level 9 characters hard in Melee. It was Ganondorf,Falco,Fox and Link.

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#21 frankeyser
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they should turn it to 11!
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#22 nintendofreak_2
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You guys are crazy lol I had a tough time beating the cpu after level 70v3rcl0ck3d
Wow. You must not play a lot. I could take 2 lvl 9's in my prime. But not 3.
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#23 Chargeagles1
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You guys are crazy lol I had a tough time beating the cpu after level 70v3rcl0ck3d

Really? I found the level 9s easy and predictable.

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#24 Shuramon
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they cant eally give them technical skill, like wavedashing and l cancelling, because that would get too complicated to add onto a CPU the ability to jump and airdodge into the ground. it sounds ridiculous and it would make computers worse if they missed and tried to overdo it...but little things such as smart edge guarding, short hopping, and actual running, should be implemented to keep players on thier toes. you cant really do much more than that. SSB level 9's were worse than SSBM lvl 9's. so i assume SSBB's lvl 9's wil be better. so ive got nothing to worry about.
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#25 ZeldaFan091
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Yea they were incredibley predictibale but the truth is...as we get better they will become incredibly easy. When i first bought the game i never thought i would get soo good that I could beata level 9 computer. But now i can beat 3. It is how much you play. If you play a lot and become good, you start recognizing what they do all the time. All Samus does is use her grappling beam in a match. Marth and Roy just fast walk up to you and try to grab you. I actually have more trouble beating people who arent that good at smash because I cannot predict what they are going to do. But...that iswhat online is for anyway. =D
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#26 grafkhun
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i hope, level 9 were pretty easy in melee.
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#27 ravemast117
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Yeah, they should make them wayyy smarter, they are very predictable and not much of a challenge, everytime a good item pops up, they completely ignore you and just go after the item... >.> Lame

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#28 Icegoten200
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I agree I would like a challenge and maybe if this game is WiFi have a high score list or something like that to make it even more of a challenge.
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#29 Sonick54
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I can take 3 lv9s, winning with ease :|
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#30 kidrock17xp
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You guys are crazy lol I had a tough time beating the cpu after level 70v3rcl0ck3d

i'll have a real hard time with it since I haven't played a smash bros game since when the 64 one came out

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#31 Nintendo_Ownes7
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they should turn it to 11!frankeyser
That is what they should do have the CPU all go to 11.
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#32 Phantom5800
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well when I first got the game level 5 was hard to fight, level 9's were easy after a year, but after not playing for so long I don't think I could do that anymore. But yes, making them harder would be really awesome, and more things like Event Match 51 and that kind of difficulty.
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#33 Migaru
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maybe they could implement a developer's style of gameplay, like in Mario Kart DS you could race against the dev's ghosts.
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#34 marth678
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well actually the computers in melee actually did learn from you, like falco if you keep doing his grab throw down and reflector combo the computer will start copying you, they didnt start doingthe move untill my cousin came up with the combo
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#35 kakashi552
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well actually the computers in melee actually did learn from you, like falco if you keep doing his grab throw down and reflector combo the computer will start copying you, they didnt start doingthe move untill my cousin came up with the combomarth678

wow. my little brother copied that combo after he saw the compurter do it.

yeah, as said before, the lvl9's weren't much of a hassle after you got used to it. and i agree with whoever said that inexperienced players are harder because of their unpredictability.

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#36 EndlessPunisher
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They should make level 20 and make all the comps godly on that level.
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#37 Gearhead95
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i think they should add a level 10 i have won tons of tournaments and to practice i play against thrre level nines against me or just impossible melee
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#38 gamefan67
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Yea lvl. 9s are very stupid. The worst ones are Roy and Luigi.

Luigi doesn't know how to recover, and Roy barely ever uses his smash attacks (Marth really doesn't either).

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#39 Sants412
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wow u ppl can beat 3 on 1 level 9's? i can barely beat 2 on 1 level 9's
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#40 ZumaJones07
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if i recall, level 8 Luigi's are better than level 9's because they use their recovery move... i think and 3 level 9's are easy to sweep... if i ever play alone, i play level 9's with handicaps
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#41 ShinoGenjutsu
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Maybe enhance the amount of leels like reaching up to level 15 or anything

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#42 thegreatest63
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They are adding intense mode to the classic mode target test and the event matches so that will be a bit of a challenge i guess;)
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#43 Staryoshi87
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I think the CPUs are fine. We don't even need them thanks to Wi-Fi, as it solves the problem of what to do when friends aren't around.
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#44 soccerslim79
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i could care less about the level 9 Al's cause if i want a challenge ill just go online :D
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#45 Jakendo
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They are adding intense mode to the classic mode target test and the event matches so that will be a bit of a challenge i guess;)thegreatest63

This thread is really old...

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#46 wiifan001
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I can take 1 level 9 really easily but 2 level 9s are too challenging. This is without items of course.

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#47 ATLReppa770
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I always thought 9 was kind of an odd number. How about 10 to even i out? Either way, like someone said earlier the biggest challenge will be online :)Korubi

That's because 9 is an odd number. =P

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#48 Thunderball37
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I want a better challenge than these wimpy level 9's. Heck even me as pikachu could beat the crap out of them too easily! I want level 12 or 15.
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#49 sman3579
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Hope they are harder.