Mad that you cant use classic controller on new games

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#1 PhantomKills
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Does anyone else think this doesnt make any sence that you cant use the classic controller on new Wii games, some games were just not designed to be used with the wii-mote and nunchuck. A perfect example is NFS:Carbon, yeah its fun that you can tilt the control and steer, but the classic controller is perfect and makes more sence to use in these types of games. im not saying dont use the motion sensing, thats the whole thing about having a wii, but at least give the option of being able to use the classic remote other than just VC games
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#3 Yo-gan
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Yeah i agree, the motion sensor contoller is the whole point people bought the Wii.

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#4 kokopelli76
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Some new games do allow you to use the CC with them. Have a look around and see, last I check SSBB was one of them. Certain games are tuned to work better with the motion controls and others better with a gamepad. SSBB and other fast fighters prolly wouldn't feel as good with motion sensing. Likewise there are games that are tuned to be more responsive to motion controls, and would play different or possibly change the difficulty level with just buttons.

The other thing to consider is that Nintendo knows for certain that every single person who bought the Wii has a Wiimote and Nunchuck. It's easy to make games for something you are certain people are going to have, whereas you aren't sure that they will have bought a CC. It makes people mad to find out the game they just bought requires something else to play (see ultra poor sales of N64 expansion pack and then subsequent bundling of it with games that require it to ensure people had it if they needed it).

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#5 Jaysonguy
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Need for Speed is a 100 times better because of the controls. Plus one setup has you holding the Wiimote like a wheel, how is that not a better choice for a racing game then a standard controller?

If you don't want to use the controller then pick another console.

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#6 yonnex
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I agree i think the games should also include the option to play with the classic control if you want to, i mean how hard can it be to include the optional control scheme they seemed to be able to add it into Mortal Kombat Armaggedon then why couldnt NFS Carbon had it, lazy i think.
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#7 FFXIsAstyanax
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While I can understand you would like multiple control options, I'm not sure the classic-controller is the answer. NFS offers 4 or 5 different control schemes to choose from, making varied use of the Nunchuk and/or Wiimote. And after playing NFS on the Wii with the Wiimote only control scheme (held like a steering wheel), I found going back to a dual analog stick controller wasn't as fun. I actually put the new game back in the cabinet and started a new profile in NFS. I've since gone back and played some of the other game, but I can't say I enjoy it like I did NFS.
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#8 yonnex
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I also prefer to play NFS Carbon with the Wii mote only holding it with buttons facing me and using 1 as brake and 2 as accelerate, i find it more fun and also easier to control then standard controller, but it does not mean they should not have included it regardless. some people like the classic give them the choice i reakon.

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#9 kwahhn
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I was never in to the NFS series but was drawn in because of the control schemes.

I prefer using the nun chuck for steering (twisting) and the wiimote for accelaration (pointing up and down like a gas pedal). This control option to me makes it feel more interactive.

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#10 BubbyJello
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RE4 lets you do that, but I never use the Classic controller. I'm guessing that more and more games will allow to use the CC in the future.
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#11 sonictls9
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Well wii is all about the motion controls...why would you want to make it less fun by using the cc? and just to make you happy, you should know that ssbb supports four different control setups- one of which is the classic controller.
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#12 polishkid99
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you can in ssbb and a gamecube controller ttoo.
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#13 browse79
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I agree, the more options the better. Personally, I would love to play gamecube games with the CC.
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#14 Jaysonguy
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I agree, the more options the better. Personally, I would love to play gamecube games with the CC.browse79

That will never happen, the Wii "becomes" a Gamecube when you play Gamecube games. The Wiimote and cl-a-ssic Controler can nev er be made to work with it. Same with the SD port.

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#15 Toribor
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That would pretty much kill the entire reason some people bought the Wii! Why would you buy a console who's main feature is the new controller, and then make a game work with the other controller?
You, my friend, are the one that doesn't make sense.JrWho

Because some games just don't work with the Wii-remote. I loved Twilight Princess on the Wii, but the sword gameplay just wasn't responsive enough to really make it worth while. Maybe this could be improved in the future, but the Wii is better for aiming, steering, but not responsive actions... Having the clasic controller as an alternative allows the Wii to be even more dynamic.

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#16 browse79
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[QUOTE="browse79"]I agree, the more options the better. Personally, I would love to play gamecube games with the CC.Jaysonguy

That will never happen, the Wii "becomes" a Gamecube when you play Gamecube games. The Wiimote and cl-a-ssic Controler can nev er be made to work with it. Same with the SD port.

Well you are right that the Wii turns into a gamecube. But the way that i see it is that if third companies are making products like this

http://store.videogamecentral.com/unps2coadxor.html

that allow you to use a PS2 controller on an Xbox, PC or Gamecube then I'm pretty sure Nintendo could have made their own product of CC to work as Gamecube games if they so wanted it to. The reason why they refused to do so is probably because they would not be able to charge $30 for a gamecube controller anymore.

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#17 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="browse79"]I agree, the more options the better. Personally, I would love to play gamecube games with the CC.browse79

That will never happen, the Wii "becomes" a Gamecube when you play Gamecube games. The Wiimote and cl-a-ssic Controler can nev er be made to work with it. Same with the SD port.

Well you are right that the Wii turns into a gamecube. But the way that i see it is that if third companies are making products like this

http://store.videogamecentral.com/unps2coadxor.html

that allow you to use a PS2 controller on an Xbox, PC or Gamecube then I'm pretty sure Nintendo could have made their own product of CC to work as Gamecube games if they so wanted it to. The reason why they refused to do so is probably because they would not be able to charge $30 for a gamecube controller anymore.

What's the point then?

You'd need to buy an adapter and then a 5 foot plus extention or just buy an adapter that has a 5 foot plus extension. So while you complain about 30 dollars for a controller you're paying even more for a controller plus extension plus adapter.

You're better off just geting a Gamecube controller which oddly enough is the best thing to play Gamecube games with.

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#18 AcousticDoc
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IT would be nice to have the option. For example, I like to play games to wind down after work, working out or a rought day and sometimes I don't want to expend so much energy. Playing madden is hard to relax when the controls require your body to be active. 
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#19 PhantomKills
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That would pretty much kill the entire reason some people bought the Wii! Why would you buy a console who's main feature is the new controller, and then make a game work with the other controller?
You, my friend, are the one that doesn't make sense.JrWho

i didnt say get rid of the wii-mote and nunchuck, i said thats the whole reason for having a wii in the first place, but give me an option to let me choose the CC in games where it would make sence to add it. the reason why i bring it up is cause when i played NFS i would have the option of using the wii-mote as a steering wheel, and during a curve when i would start to tilt it, i would tilt it too much and the wii i guess didnt know what i was doing and the car would stop responding start going straight and i would hit the wall, i understand that this is where skill comes in, but i wouldnt be having this problem with the CC

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#20 kingtahktahkhuk
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i agree with you, they should give us an option of using the classic controller on games
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#21 Travo_basic
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I'd rather have the choice of using it with GC games
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#22 browse79
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[QUOTE="browse79"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="browse79"]I agree, the more options the better. Personally, I would love to play gamecube games with the CC.Jaysonguy

That will never happen, the Wii "becomes" a Gamecube when you play Gamecube games. The Wiimote and cl-a-ssic Controler can nev er be made to work with it. Same with the SD port.

Well you are right that the Wii turns into a gamecube. But the way that i see it is that if third companies are making products like this

http://store.videogamecentral.com/unps2coadxor.html

that allow you to use a PS2 controller on an Xbox, PC or Gamecube then I'm pretty sure Nintendo could have made their own product of CC to work as Gamecube games if they so wanted it to. The reason why they refused to do so is probably because they would not be able to charge $30 for a gamecube controller anymore.

What's the point then?

You'd need to buy an adapter and then a 5 foot plus extention or just buy an adapter that has a 5 foot plus extension. So while you complain about 30 dollars for a controller you're paying even more for a controller plus extension plus adapter.

You're better off just geting a Gamecube controller which oddly enough is the best thing to play Gamecube games with.

The point is (and ill keep it simple for you) that Nintendo could have made the CC work on gamecube games if they so wanted it to.

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#23 Altriak
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Yes, yes, I agree with the TC. The CC should be an ALTERNATIVE to us in games.

And just buying another console is NOT a solution darn it!!! What if I have a friend who wants to use a CC while I want to use the wiimote? That's what ticked me off with a game like marvel:ultimate alliance. It was either/or and not both.

It's like going to a seafood restaurant with a group of people. Not everyone is going to necessarily want to eat seafood, and it's tiring to hear people say "Well, why go to a seafood restaurant then?" Uh, maybe because everyone else in my group did? I just happened to want chicken that night...I'm not about to eat alone!

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#24 FFXIsAstyanax
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Not all games are either/or. DBZ:BT2 allows use of the Wiimote Nunchuk, Classic-contoller, and GCN controller. And if one player uses one control scheme, someone else can still use a different one.
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#25 PhantomKills
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It's like going to a seafood restaurant with a group of people. Not everyone is going to necessarily want to eat seafood, and it's tiring to hear people say "Well, why go to a seafood restaurant then?" Uh, maybe because everyone else in my group did? I just happened to want chicken that night...I'm not about to eat alone!

Altriak

haha thats a wierd example but i guess i get your point.

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#26 Jaysonguy
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The point is (and ill keep it simple for you) that Nintendo could have made the CC work on gamecube games if they so wanted it to.

browse79

No they couldn't have. Again I'll break it down for you lol

The Wiimote handle only allows for a certain kind of plug, so right off the bat you'd need to buy a seperate adapter. Then you have the issue or cord length. Since the Classic Controller is meant to be played with the Wiimote either in your lap or by your side they wouldn't have made the length the same as a Gamecube's controller. That means that you'd also need to buy an extension.

There's no way to say "they could have made it work" without going out and getting an adapter and extension cables.

No matter what you're stuck plugging it into the top of the Wii

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#27 ravemast117
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Nah, I'm just mad that you can't use the Classic to play back Gamecube games.. that made me mad.
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#28 grafkhun
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IDK, the wii motion controls are great.
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#29 ThePlothole
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If the game is actually designed to utilize the the Wiimote properly though (eg NOT this whole Waggle substituting a button press crap), it would likely prove difficult to map to the classic controller.
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#30 MagicNinja911
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That would pretty much kill the entire reason some people bought the Wii! Why would you buy a console who's main feature is the new controller, and then make a game work with the other controller?
You, my friend, are the one that doesn't make sense.JrWho

ur right but SSBB and other games are able to use all the controller (gc, cllassic (with only one l it would not let me only put one l, and wii remote with and without nunchuck

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#31 dieasgrey
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[QUOTE="JrWho"]That would pretty much kill the entire reason some people bought the Wii! Why would you buy a console who's main feature is the new controller, and then make a game work with the other controller?
You, my friend, are the one that doesn't make sense.PhantomKills

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there are like 6 or 7 different control schemes in nfs...try them out

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#32 SquareRocks
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That would pretty much kill the entire reason some people bought the Wii! Why would you buy a console who's main feature is the new controller, and then make a game work with the other controller?
You, my friend, are the one that doesn't make sense.JrWho

i only want it for some mario games and as the last nextgen console for me to get. I think having that controller would be nice so that playing a traditional rpg would feel more...traditional haha