Many people dont realise the importance of pokemon battle revolution.

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#1 fudg__er
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It seems like everyone I see in the forum thinks that pokemon is going to suck and its not worth buying or even renting. Well this may be the most important game for the wii because:

It is the first to use the ds to wii connectivity

First online game

First game that looks better than the xbox library (despite its cartoony graphics)

First pokemon game for the wii.

Discuss

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#2 m_machine024
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Yeah... kinda important.
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#3 leegar88
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I might get it but I need to think about it. I don't even have diamond/pearl.
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#4 izayoi
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I agree that PBV is the first online game and connects wirelessly to the ds. The other Pokemon games like stadium and colosseum weren't bad.
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#5 mike7677
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I do have both diamond and pearl and I am looking forward to this.
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#6 izayoi
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The last pokemon games I had was Yellow and Stadium. I got Diamond. Pretty good so far.
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#7 SPHYNXA
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Well, taking the first Pokemon Stadium for example here on GameSpot... it got a 5.7  So yeah, it's not like we're waiting for a triumphant sequel to a stellar game.  Compare it to the craze that is Killzone 2 on the PS3... Killzone (the original) was just plain ol' medioce, so why the excitement.

Secondly, I've said this before and I'll say it again.  The fact that a company is holding off implementing their online infastructure until the release of a Pokemon game, in North America, should just raise a tone of red flags.  What are they thinking?  Weren't we promised online games would be out in January?  That was 5 months ago...

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#9 fluffers623
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my bro seem to find interestin this game. o yea, hes 10.. screw u cartoony commericals *shouting at the clouds*
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#10 waza000
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i really HOPE this pokemon will not be a reference for future game developpers

 

- you can only play online with people that you have shared your ID with

- that game will not be fully enjoyable unless you have at least 1 of the DS' pokemon

 

if developpers try to make games and planing on copying that pokemon's internet feature it would be a disaster 

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#11 Jaysonguy
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Yeah I made this same kinda thread a few months ago, good call

This game is going to dictate how a lot of Nintendo's future plays out for it's consoles, handhelds, and their online ability. 

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#12 Jaysonguy
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- that game will not be fully enjoyable unless you have at least 1 of the DS' pokemon

 waza000

Not true at all 

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#13 NECR0CHILD313
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PBR is important because for a Pokemon fan it does the only thing D/P doesn't do - real-time random battles.

[QUOTE="waza000"]

- that game will not be fully enjoyable unless you have at least 1 of the DS' pokemon

Jaysonguy


Not true at all

Yeah, it pretty much is. It's basically Pokemon Stadium Wii, Stadium was gimped if you didn't have a Gameboy Cart.

 

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#14 waza000
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[QUOTE="waza000"]

- that game will not be fully enjoyable unless you have at least 1 of the DS' pokemon

Jaysonguy

Not true at all

 

what are you talking about ?!
if you don't have pearl or w/e (the other one on DS) you will have to play PBR with "rented" pokemons wich are really weak and can't evolve ...
basicaly this game is just like pokemon stadium, it's not a "typical" pokemon game at all, you won't collect pokemons, all you do is fighting online and 1 console multiplayer

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#15 chasingu
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I am going to buy this game but it is really just you using you Pokemon from Diamond and pearl but in 3D. Yha also it has online.
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#16 yungboi
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Its just battling in 3D right?...yea. Not for me.
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#17 Jaysonguy
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what are you talking about ?!
if you don't have pearl or w/e (the other one on DS) you will have to play PBR with "rented" pokemons wich are really weak and can't evolve ...
basicaly this game is just like pokemon stadium, it's not a "typical" pokemon game at all, you won't collect pokemons, all you do is fighting online and 1 console multiplayer

waza000

If you don't have the DS version then you get the normal characters in the game, just like any other fighting game.

If you have the DS version you can import your own characters 

I don't know if you've followed Pokemon and how it's released but the adventure games have always been on the handhelds while the pure arena games have been on the console.

 

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#18 Duckman5
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All the Pokemon games use the same formula again and again. Diamond and Pearl are basically the same as emereald saphire, ruby, and all other pokemon games except for minor plot changes, online, new pokemon and touch screen. It feels like, "HMM, haven't I played this before?" It's like Street Fighter 2, great game but like 20 remakes that are all basically the same. I feel like I'm buying the same game again and again and I've had it.
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#19 the_leet_kid
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[QUOTE="waza000"]

 

what are you talking about ?!
if you don't have pearl or w/e (the other one on DS) you will have to play PBR with "rented" pokemons wich are really weak and can't evolve ...
basicaly this game is just like pokemon stadium, it's not a "typical" pokemon game at all, you won't collect pokemons, all you do is fighting online and 1 console multiplayer

Jaysonguy

If you don't have the DS version then you get the normal characters in the game, just like any other fighting game.

If you have the DS version you can import your own characters 

I don't know if you've followed Pokemon and how it's released but the adventure games have always been on the handhelds while the pure arena games have been on the console.

 

And the pure arena games have always been mediocre. It's like buying a final fantasy game where literally all you do is move from battle to battle. I don't get why you guys act like this game is such a big deal...

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#20 wooooode
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I am not a pokemon fan so I will not be picking this up, but do in fact hope it is a good game and shows good online support.

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#21 Jaysonguy
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And the pure arena games have always been mediocre. It's like buying a final fantasy game where literally all you do is move from battle to battle. I don't get why you guys act like this game is such a big deal...

the_leet_kid

It's a fighting game, you either like them or you don't.

Why it's important

1. Shows off Nintendo's online service.

2. Shows off the Wii/DS connection.

Both of those things will be greatly influenced by how well this title does, moreso then other titles because this one incorporates both of them in one of their most popular franchises.

 

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#22 waza000
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Jaysonguy ...

the main idea of this forum was for saying how PBR will be important ...
i think you are wrong about saying PBR will be important , because the kinda of multiplayer system it will be, i think, should not be considered as good by other developpers. beeing only able to play against people that you shared friends code with is wrong, totaly wrong and ruins the spirit the online multiplayer ... it would be like calling your friend saying "come at my house we'll play video game" but instead you have to call him for him to go online...

and btw, for connectivité Wii/DS .. how is it even important ? is there any other game, or plan about using such thing ? (answer plz if you know about that)

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#23 nintendo_fan675
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It seems like everyone I see in the forum thinks that pokemon is going to suck and its not worth buying or even renting. Well this may be the most important game for the wii because:

It is the first to use the ds to wii connectivity

First online game

First game that looks better than the xbox library (despite its cartoony graphics)

First pokemon game for the wii.

Discuss

fudg__er

I so getting this game because of online and the Ds and wii connectivity

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#24 Samurai_Xavier
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Whats so important about a game with no purpose but to battle your pokemon in 3D? You might as well just battle them in the DS.
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#25 vashkey
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It's Pokemon Stadium 5 is all.  It's gonna be a throw away game.  I bet it won't be any better that the last several Pokemon sonsole.  I bet it wont even get a 7.5.  It'll most likely get somthing like a 6.7 or somthing.  So what if it's the firsto nline game on the Wii?  It doenst mean it's gonna be good. 

And to say the game looks better than the X-box library is a joke.  A horrible, horrible joke.

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#26 Niebz
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What? No random matches?  I find that pretty hard to believe.  I guess maybe I won't be picking this up.
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#27 liljio14
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ok yes it might be the first wii online game wow u can battle wat else can u do
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#28 reggie186
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I don't have diamond or pearl... so I'm really not too excited for this game.
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#29 deadlydale9
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mario strikers charged is the first online game for ukcoming out on the 25th :)
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#30 manny_stlye
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This game has really impresive graphics, it is gonna be a sleeper hit for sure, just like Pokemon Battle Stadium for the N64!!!
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#31 liljio14
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This game has really impresive graphics, it is gonna be a sleeper hit for sure, just like Pokemon Battle Stadium for the N64!!!manny_stlye
a sleeper hit since when a pokemon game was 1 of thoses
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#32 NECR0CHILD313
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It's Pokemon Stadium 5 is all. It's gonna be a throw away game. I bet it won't be any better that the last several Pokemon sonsole. I bet it wont even get a 7.5. It'll most likely get somthing like a 6.7 or somthing. So what if it's the firsto nline game on the Wii? It doenst mean it's gonna be good.

And to say the game looks better than the X-box library is a joke. A horrible, horrible joke.

vashkey

Pokemon Stadium 3, the other two were RPGs that were mediocre (XD:Gale of Darkness) to bad (Colloseum). It'll get 3.9 and nobody would care, Pokemon games don't go for critical praise, especially the 3D ones, which never score decent anyways (yet still sell, so obviously nobody cares). It'll be great for a D/P owner, as essentially all the Stadium-type games are are expansion packs for the handheld games.

I honestly hope that what is essentially an expansion pack isn't better than the Xbox library. Because that would be the horrible joke.

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#33 rockartofwar
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Pokemon is the **** hahahahahaha

 

lovin it.......!

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#34 -CheeseEater-
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According to IGN, online play on Pokemon is crazy with lag. They say that the game really isn't anything amazing. And that alone makes this game an absolute nothing to me. Unless somehow the tide turns and something in the game truely stands out that makes it worth my money.
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#35 waza000
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This game has really impresive graphics, it is gonna be a sleeper hit for sure, just like Pokemon Battle Stadium for the N64!!!manny_stlye

ok, so the only thing you find good about that game are graphics ?!

dude, it's a 2d background, just few little items in 3d for the arena and some pokemons ... what i mean is that all the game is static, you don't see a lot of things at once, so of course they could make the pokemons look better because all the rest is not demanding for the console

... but if all you were thinking of was that it looks better than previous stadium games, well thats not a reason to buy it, i guess it had to be better since the console improved 

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#36 vnc20100
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I remember Ricardo saying he had a lot of fun playing the game Online and that it had a random oponent option. We'll have to see, they might actually change things for the american/european version
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#38 dak_phoenix
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i agree with ur first 2 points but not the 3rd, i don't see pokemon as an 'importance' >_> 
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#39 Jaysonguy
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i agree with ur first 2 points but not the 3rd, i don't see pokemon as an 'importance' >_>dak_phoenix

Then you're really missing Nintendo's direction right now.

Though people also think that Wii Sports should be online so it's not surprising that people are missing the boat on this issue also. 

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#40 stazi42
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No i will not buy it or rent it either. If I was ten years ola i might ...but be serious...some of us and the most experience gamers are grown up now...why should I buy this cartoon thing? We need something more realistic on the gameplay specificly were Wii has the strong point. So when Nintendo chose to sell a console with weak graphics we said yes...we do not bother because it will have the quality of nintendo and when the specifications were not so great we still trusted them and we also embrassed them for the new way of playing a game. But how do they support this with pokemon????and without online???no.no.no...at least sports could be online it would be much better than pokemon....anyway I am a little angry with nintendo strategy because they seem to be stuck in the past...they should wake up....
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#41 Kojo222
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There are a LOT of games that should've been online. The reason I don't play Wii Sports anymore, or haven't bought WarioWare is cause I don't have anyone to play with. I know it might take a while for Nintendo to establish it's online network, but I really hope you're not suggesting that Nintendo's direction is only aiming at Pokemon fans.

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#42 magrappy
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i thought mario stikers was first online wii game outside japan? even if it pokemon thats not a reason to buy a game, just to get online, at the end of the day its still just a battle simulation for people who have pokemon diamond and pearl which is online anyway, although it in worse graphics. Just because it looks better then every xbox game is another reason not to buy a game. it will be worth a rent and possibly a buy and it will be down to how good it plays and how much of a pokemon fan you are.
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#43 Rosencrantz
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I actually hate these pokemon battle games.  Hate them with my very soul.   What I don't understand is why they just don't release an awesome Pokemon RPG for new consoles using souped up graphics?  I would buy that in a second.  Instead, it's like the only idea they have is for Pokemon RPGs to have crappy graphics and therefore make them handheld games, and for the console Pokemon games to be crappy "battle" games.

I want a console pokemon RPG!

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#44 blahzor
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My favourite part about the original pokemon stadiums where the crazy minigames, i was never that interested in battling.  However, having the ability to play against others online, now that would make it more then worth it for me!  I agree, pokemone battle revolution could be very important for the wii.  Both for some of the reasons you mentioned and also if the online element is enough of a hit, maybe nintendo will push for greater more well thought out online strategies.

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#45 Satanshelper
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It seems like everyone I see in the forum thinks that pokemon is going to suck and its not worth buying or even renting. Well this may be the most important game for the wii because:

It is the first to use the ds to wii connectivity

First online game

First game that looks better than the xbox library (despite its cartoony graphics)

First pokemon game for the wii.

Discuss

fudg__er

Us european gamers get smash football as our first online game, so I have next to no anticipation of this game.

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#46 Stryder_18
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I haven't played a pokemon game for a very long time and that was silver and back then I always thought or at least hoped that they would make a game for the consoles that was like the gameboy games. I wanted them to do it with the gamecube, but now I think it would be awsome with the Wii. I would then start getting into playing pokemon again. Oh just thought of something, what if there was like a Pokemon MMORPG for Wii, I think that would be pretty fun too.
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#47 Colinllama
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Looking forward to playing Strikers Charged online in a couple of weeks. (I'm in UK)  The online for that looks really good.

I've never played a Pokemon game, so I doubt I'll make PBR the first one I try.

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#48 jammydodger14
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Im also looking forwards to Strikers Charged in Europe (2 1/2 Weeks) So probably wont buy this game. Quick question... a bit off topic.... I have a PAl Wii and would buy this game when it came out in europe but would i be able to connect to my Diamond since its a US version?
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#49 jimboboklashaur
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well this will be the first game of this kind that i've bought since the pokemon stadium 2, so i'm actually pretty excited. plus it'll be the first online wii game so that's all the more reason to get it, i'd say.
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#50 deactivated-61cf0c4baf12e
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It seems like everyone I see in the forum thinks that pokemon is going to suck and its not worth buying or even renting. Well this may be the most important game for the wii because:

It is the first to use the ds to wii connectivity

First online game

First game that looks better than the xbox library (despite its cartoony graphics)

First pokemon game for the wii.

Discuss

fudg__er

The first online game will be Super Mario Strikers, it's getting launched on may 25 here in europe.Â