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#1 Meinhard1
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It seems like Mario's 25th anniversary would call for a little more than a quick cash in.

They could have...

included the bonus content from the GBA ports,

updated the graphics,

orchestrated the music,

updated the multiplayer,

added a level editor that allows players to create levels and release them online,

included updated versions of the original Gameboy games,

the list goes on.

I mean I'm not surprised that Nintendo didn't do any of this stuff but I think this package could have been something truly special if they had.

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#2 wiifan001
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Updated the graphics :lol: Yeah, I stopped reading after that.
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#3 DJ_Lae
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nintendo is the company who rereleased NES games on the GBA for $20 a pop. Compared to that, this Allstars rom dump is the deal of a century. (it could have been so much better. As is it's an insult to Mario and Nintendo fans)
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#4 monkeymoose5000
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I got it for my little brother as a Christmas present. He gave up in ten minutes. :(
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#5 kenakuma
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They should have just done a brand new all stars 25th anniversary edition with those games plus world with NSMB wii graphics!

That would have been cool and more reasonable.

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#6 Rod90
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It could and it SHOULD have been a lot more. But not with the things you say.
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#7 dunl12496
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Very true. Also mario editing on this site is amazing:http://www.pouetpu-games.com/index.php?section=4

I used to go there all the time until they removed the comments. Unfortunately it's populated by tweens. :| HML.

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#8 jasonharris48
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I really can care less about updated graphics. I just wish it contained more titles in it.

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#9 da_chub
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about the only thing u are right about is including more games. Everything about allstars is great...they wanted to preserve the original games...and they do have updated graphics...but they should have put in the Super Mario Land games, Super mario world, etc...Outside that, it is a good deal considering it is $20 of VC on a disc. i will be getting it, but it was sold out everywhere i went last couple weeks.
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They should have added Yoshis Island and the 2 Mario Land games along with World.

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#11 OreoMilkshake
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included the bonus content from the GBA ports,

Meinhard1
You mean annoying voice samples and some music changes? No thanks.
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#12 JuarN18
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about the only thing u are right about is including more games. Everything about allstars is great...they wanted to preserve the original games...and they do have updated graphics...but they should have put in the Super Mario Land games, Super mario world, etc...Outside that, it is a good deal considering it is $20 of VC on a disc. i will be getting it, but it was sold out everywhere i went last couple weeks.da_chub
I agree, with just mario world and yoshi's island this game would be epic

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#13 MathMattS
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It could have been alot more in terms of game content; they could have at least thrown in Super Mario World, Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, and Super Mario 64.

It seems to me that Nintendo just took the SNES version and threw in some collectibles. A milking attempt, perhaps?

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#14 Rod90
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="Meinhard1"]

included the bonus content from the GBA ports,

You mean annoying voice samples and some music changes? No thanks.

The voices of the GBA remakes were awesome. It added a lot of style.
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#15 Meinhard1
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[QUOTE="Meinhard1"]

included the bonus content from the GBA ports,

OreoMilkshake
You mean annoying voice samples and some music changes? No thanks.

I was actually referring to the extra levels in the GBA SMB 3 port - the one's you could unlock with the e-reader. I'm not sure if the other ports had content like that. A more general comment: Maybe updated graphics isn't necessary, but it's just one of many possible things they could have done to make this something special. I mean the source material in this package is amazing I just wish they would give us some incentive to actually purchase and play the game other than neat packaging and of course the fact that some people might have missed the original Mario All Stars. Part of my is dying to get this but I can't justify the purchase since I can already play this on my SNES or the original games on my VC... it wouldn't take much, even something trivial like updated graphics would be something.
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I would love a level editor so much, but Nintendo would never do something like that. Not anytime soon at least. They really need to step up their online capabilities. Sure you can go online in some games, but I mean like, I wanna be able to add people and friends without numbers, and I want to be able to talk to them while playing different games. If you could create and share your levels in this game that would be amazing.
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#17 Aero5555
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I still have the original cart of Mario All-Stars for my SNES and after hearing how it's just more or less a direct port I'd rather avoid the Wii game at all costs. It's more a game for the late 90's generation of kids who grew up purely on Mario 64 and beyond IMO.

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Nintendo were lazy with this. Compare the 25th Anniversary release to the SNES release. For the SNES release, they updated the graphics and added an extra game, The Lost Levels. It would've been great if they did the same for the Wii release. They could've made it look like NSMBW and added SMW and Mario 64. Thing is, Nintendo are a lot more lazy and greedy than they used to be. They're not going to spend time and money updating graphics when they don't "have to" and they're not going to include SMW or Mario 64 when both games are on VC. While we're talking about Ninty being lazy and greedy, why wasn't SMBAS released on VC with the same price as all the other SNES games? Because there was a way for them to make more money from the games, thats why. They put the NES versions on VC instead. If you wanted the Super Mario games on VC, it cost a lot more than a single VC SNES game costs and you got the inferior versions for that extra money. Thanks Nintendo. If they wanted to sell the Mario games separately, they could've separated the SNES versions included in All-Stars, but they couldn't even be bothered to do that. What happened to you Nintendo?
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#19 locopatho
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Yeah, wasn't there a SNES cart with both All Stars and World? Good to know Ninty chooses to fit less on a massive DVD then on a tiny cart.....

Also, anyone read the booklet with it's "insightful comments"? Shigsy talking about the Mario's first yet still amazing 3D adventure, Mario 64: "Mario runs around like a hamster. In fact, I had a hamster around this time" :P

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#20 DJ_Lae
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The sad part about the Anniversary collection is that the image and music that plays at the Wii home screen probably takes up more space than the actual rom dump of All-Stars (I believe it was a 2MB cart).
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It seems like Mario's 25th anniversary would call for a little more than a quick cash in.

They could have...

included the bonus content from the GBA ports,

updated the graphics,

orchestrated the music,

updated the multiplayer,

added a level editor that allows players to create levels and release them online,

included updated versions of the original Gameboy games,

the list goes on.

I mean I'm not surprised that Nintendo didn't do any of this stuff but I think this package could have been something truly special if they had.

Meinhard1

Then it'd probably be like 40-50 bucks. Would you have rather paid that?

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#22 DJ_Lae
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[QUOTE="darksongbird"]

[QUOTE="Meinhard1"]

It seems like Mario's 25th anniversary would call for a little more than a quick cash in.

They could have...

included the bonus content from the GBA ports,

updated the graphics,

orchestrated the music,

updated the multiplayer,

added a level editor that allows players to create levels and release them online,

included updated versions of the original Gameboy games,

the list goes on.

I mean I'm not surprised that Nintendo didn't do any of this stuff but I think this package could have been something truly special if they had.

Then it'd probably be like 40-50 bucks. Would you have rather paid that?

If it included all that, then yeah. Or even if they had bothered to include a larger subset of Mario classics, from the original NES games to the Gameboy titles, the weird edutainment spinoffs, Mario 64, Sunshine, maybe a sports spinoff or two, etc. As is we all basically paid $30 for an $8 ROM dump, a terrible 'book' and a soundtrack CD that cost them about 20 cents to stamp.
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#23 Meinhard1
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[QUOTE="Meinhard1"]

It seems like Mario's 25th anniversary would call for a little more than a quick cash in.

They could have...

included the bonus content from the GBA ports,

updated the graphics,

orchestrated the music,

updated the multiplayer,

added a level editor that allows players to create levels and release them online,

included updated versions of the original Gameboy games,

the list goes on.

I mean I'm not surprised that Nintendo didn't do any of this stuff but I think this package could have been something truly special if they had.

darksongbird

Then it'd probably be like 40-50 bucks. Would you have rather paid that?

I could see how the $30 dollar package could be appealing to someone who missed out on the original Mario All Stars but personally I wouldn't buy the current package even for $20. However I would pay 40 - 50 dollars had they updated the games.
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#24 TGM_basic
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[QUOTE="Meinhard1"]

It seems like Mario's 25th anniversary would call for a little more than a quick cash in.

They could have...

included the bonus content from the GBA ports,

updated the graphics,

orchestrated the music,

updated the multiplayer,

added a level editor that allows players to create levels and release them online,

included updated versions of the original Gameboy games,

the list goes on.

I mean I'm not surprised that Nintendo didn't do any of this stuff but I think this package could have been something truly special if they had.

darksongbird

Then it'd probably be like 40-50 bucks. Would you have rather paid that?

$40-$50 would be a steal for a proper compilation like that.

As it is, $30 is a rip-off for the actual compilation that we got.

So yeah, I'd rather pay the higher price for the better package.

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I didn't know there was a port of All-Stars to the Wii. Part of me wants to get it, but then, reading comments suggests that I don't. Is it really worth it?
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#26 Meinhard1
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I didn't know there was a port of All-Stars to the Wii. Part of me wants to get it, but then, reading comments suggests that I don't. Is it really worth it?Rocky_MacIntosh
Is it worth 30 dollars? Well it's direct port so if you have played the original All Stars you know what you're getting and can decide for yourself. If you haven't played the original then it probably is worth your money since it contains updated versions of four great Mario games.
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#27 XboxGuy1537
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Yeah, Nintendo was really lazy on this.

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#28 GreekGameManiac
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Are you guys kidding me? everyone i know complains about it being so lame.

Lazy? they've been dissapointing since 2009.

more of the same,more of the same...Super Mario won't offer anything new untill Wii 2.

It could have so much more,indeed...

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#29 KBFloYd
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Lazy? they've been dissapointing since 2009.GreekGameManiac

whatever dude.

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#30 knuckl3head
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Yeah, Nintendo was really lazy on this.

XboxGuy1537

What's worse is that regardless, people still buy it.

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#31 wiifan001
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THE Wiifan001 will analyze this. Super Mario Bros 1, 2, and 3, all 500 points. Super Mario Bros The Lost Levels at 600 points. Super Mario World at 800 500 + 500 + 500 + 600 + 800 = 2900 wii points. 2900 wii points = $29 (In america) Now take that to where all games are upped to 16 bit on one disc. You also get a soundtrack and a book for $30. THAT'S ONE $ MORE!
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#32 TGM_basic
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THE Wiifan001 will analyze this. Super Mario Bros 1, 2, and 3, all 500 points. Super Mario Bros The Lost Levels at 600 points. Super Mario World at 800 500 + 500 + 500 + 600 + 800 = 2900 wii points. 2900 wii points = $29 (In america) Now take that to where all games are upped to 16 bit on one disc. You also get a soundtrack and a book for $30. THAT'S ONE $ MORE! wiifan001

Super Mario World isn't on the disc, though.

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#33 fleetmenace
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all i got to say is, when they did mario all stars on SNES they updated the NES graphics. nuff said >_>
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#34 mariokart64fan
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ok let me do this for ya

super mario bros 1-5 dollars

super mario bros 2 5 dollars/500 points

super mario bros lost levels 600 points/6

smb 3- 500

15 plus 6=21.00 dollars keep in mind youll have to buy at least 2 points cards ---to get 21 points,

-40 dollars your left with unused points might you want somthing else or not

-add the cd you got with the soundtrack if they sold it in stores it be probably 5 more to 9 dollars

bringing your total to 30 plus tax

oh lets not forget these are snes versions

they could have just thrown all 4 sepearetelly at 800 points each

8x 4 =36

so either way, your getting what you pay for

ne 1 saying it could be more, wrong

personally as i have all those games yall are tossing upalready on ds and n64 and vc

--- theres no need for them ,

get mario 64 for vc world for vc the only one missing is world 2 , -find that cheap for snes lol

and there

you go

buy this for 30

buy mario 64 for 10

buy smw for 8

thats only 48 bucks

theres nothing they could change for 64 mario or world as it would be the same looks and everything ,

if they changed mario 64 they could just redo the whole game and release it as a standalone wii game

but you wouldnt want that either i suppose 50 bucks is to steap for you,

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THE Wiifan001 will analyze this.

Super Mario Bros 1, 2, and 3, all 500 points.
Super Mario Bros The Lost Levels at 600 points.
Super Mario World at 800

500 + 500 + 500 + 600 + 800 = 2900 wii points. 2900 wii points = $29 (In america)

Now take that to where all games are upped to 16 bit on one disc. You also get a soundtrack and a book for $30. THAT'S ONE $ MORE! wiifan001

You're looking at it all wrong.

How much would it have cost if they just put SMBAS on VC? 800 points for a SNES game, is it?

800 points is £5.60 (in England).

The 25th Anniversary Wii All-Stars has an RRP of £25 in England! That's over four times the cost of a SNES download from Virtual Console! Four times the cost and they didn't even have the decency to include Mario World or 64.

Yeah, thanks Nintendo. Thanks a lot.

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It is lazy pure and simple. When you have the metroid prime trilogy collection debuting at $50 with all 3 games. They added the wiimote controls to the first 2 games plus achievements and tweaked the second game so it wasn't so hard. The collection obviously costs more now, but makes the mario collection a joke. The soundtrack only consists of 20 tracks and half of those are sound effects. At the end of the day, it is a crappy collection. If Nintendo would have included all of Mario's adventure games, it would have been worth it. Mario bros 1-3, Mario World, Yoshi's Island, Mario 64, and Mario Sunshine, then it might have been worth it. Nintendo needs to mark down the VC prices. 5 dollars for mario 1 is too expensive. When other companies sell collections for $20 and those include 8 games or more. I fail to see the logic why street fighter 2, the world warrior and street fighter 2 turbo are the same price. street fighter 2 turbo is better. $10 for mario kart 64 is too pricey.

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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]THE Wiifan001 will analyze this.

Super Mario Bros 1, 2, and 3, all 500 points.
Super Mario Bros The Lost Levels at 600 points.
Super Mario World at 800

500 + 500 + 500 + 600 + 800 = 2900 wii points. 2900 wii points = $29 (In america)

Now take that to where all games are upped to 16 bit on one disc. You also get a soundtrack and a book for $30. THAT'S ONE $ MORE! x-2tha-z

You're looking at it all wrong.

How much would it have cost if they just put SMBAS on VC? 800 points for a SNES game, is it?

800 points is £5.60 (in England).

The 25th Anniversary Wii All-Stars has an RRP of £25 in England! That's over four times the cost of a SNES download from Virtual Console! Four times the cost and they didn't even have the decency to include Mario World or 64.

Yeah, thanks Nintendo. Thanks a lot.

Looking at it Wrong?

I gave the figures in America, not England

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[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]THE Wiifan001 will analyze this.

Super Mario Bros 1, 2, and 3, all 500 points.
Super Mario Bros The Lost Levels at 600 points.
Super Mario World at 800

500 + 500 + 500 + 600 + 800 = 2900 wii points. 2900 wii points = $29 (In america)

Now take that to where all games are upped to 16 bit on one disc. You also get a soundtrack and a book for $30. THAT'S ONE $ MORE! wiifan001

You're looking at it all wrong.

How much would it have cost if they just put SMBAS on VC? 800 points for a SNES game, is it?

800 points is £5.60 (in England).

The 25th Anniversary Wii All-Stars has an RRP of £25 in England! That's over four times the cost of a SNES download from Virtual Console! Four times the cost and they didn't even have the decency to include Mario World or 64.

Yeah, thanks Nintendo. Thanks a lot.

Looking at it Wrong?

I gave the figures in America, not England

The same principle applies. A VC SNES game costs $8 to download in America. SMAS Wii costs $30. Greedy Nintendo.
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#39 Niff_T
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They should have added Yoshis Island and the 2 Mario Land games along with World.

chocolate1325

Agreed with this.

All those games in one package would've been awesome.

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#40 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]

You're looking at it all wrong.

How much would it have cost if they just put SMBAS on VC? 800 points for a SNES game, is it?

800 points is £5.60 (in England).

The 25th Anniversary Wii All-Stars has an RRP of £25 in England! That's over four times the cost of a SNES download from Virtual Console! Four times the cost and they didn't even have the decency to include Mario World or 64.

Yeah, thanks Nintendo. Thanks a lot.

x-2tha-z

Looking at it Wrong?

I gave the figures in America, not England

The same principle applies. A VC SNES game costs $8 to download in America. SMAS Wii costs $30. Greedy Nintendo.

SMAS comes with one snes game and 4 nes games, and a soundtrack CD and a history booklet. It is also a limited edition collector's item, for only $30. I don't see the greed here. Wait, you think a snes game for $8 is too expensive? And the 5 games and its additional content for SMAS is too expensive as well?
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#41 gamenerd15
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[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]

Looking at it Wrong?

I gave the figures in America, not England

wiifan001

The same principle applies. A VC SNES game costs $8 to download in America. SMAS Wii costs $30. Greedy Nintendo.

SMAS comes with one snes game and 4 nes games, and a soundtrack CD and a history booklet. It is also a limited edition collector's item, for only $30. I don't see the greed here. Wait, you think a snes game for $8 is too expensive? And the 5 games and its additional content for SMAS is too expensive as well?

What SNES game. It only comes with Mario bros 1-3 and the lost levels. This is not the version that has mario world included in the package. Yes it is greedy. VC games should not cost as much as they do. Seriously, those VC games have been out for 3 years, time for a discount. The CD is basically only 10 songs. The booklet is also not good because it does not mention the sports games mario was in, or a lot of the other games Mario was featured in. This collectors item is incomplete.

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#42 unrealtron
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They should have just done a brand new all stars 25th anniversary edition with those games plus world with NSMB wii graphics!

That would have been cool and more reasonable.

kenakuma
they wouldn't do that even if we asked them. They were too lazy in that matter :(
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#44 x-2tha-z
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[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]Looking at it Wrong?I gave the figures in America, not Englandwiifan001
The same principle applies. A VC SNES game costs $8 to download in America. SMAS Wii costs $30. Greedy Nintendo.

SMAS comes with one snes game and 4 nes games, and a soundtrack CD and a history booklet. It is also a limited edition collector's item, for only $30. I don't see the greed here. Wait, you think a snes game for $8 is too expensive? And the 5 games and its additional content for SMAS is too expensive as well?

No, Super Mario World is not included. Only Mario 1-3 and Lost Levels is included. Like I said earlier, greedy Nintendo isn't going to include Mario World or Mario 64 when both games are on Virtual Console. But Wiifan, why are you trying to defend the game if you didn't even buy it yourself? If it's such a good deal, why didn't you buy it?