Maybe IGN snapped because...

It's just an hypothesis, but it sure is pretty interesting.

Oh, and "Alexa, lol" is not a valid answer. Of course, Alexa numbers don't show all the traffic, just a part of it, but statistics, all kinds of statistics, rely on samples, and the people who have that evil Alexa spyware installed DO constitute a pretty good universe for that purpose. Unless you want to think that, suddenly, half of the people who visit IGN and had Alexa got rid of the Alexa bar, in which case, you're special... Very, very special.

If there's some truth to this hypothesis, the best way to respond to this idiotic strategy from IGN is to stop visiting their site.

Discuss.

the best way to respond to this idiotic strategy from IGN is to stop visiting their site.

LordQuorthon

Actually, I don't visit IGN any more.

I personally believe that they are actively trying to discredit Nintendo and the Blue Ocean strategy because they are insecure "hardcore" gamers. But the numbers don't lie. Site hits are absolutely a motivation.Arc2012

That's an interesting idea too. However, I'm not really sure they even read Clayton Christensen's books. And if they did, they probably didn't really understand them.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The greatest thing about the Blue Ocean strategy is that, no matter how many times you talk about it or about Christensen, the competition will always ignore it.

[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

the best way to respond to this idiotic strategy from IGN is to stop visiting their site.

gulfo

Actually, I don't visit IGN any more.

Yea to be honest i don't really either anymore, when they changed their site design it bugged me because it was kind of all over the place and they don't really ever have anything that interests me. It seems like all they have now is top game lists and other media i don't care about, and some of it just seems like their stirring up stuff just to get attention like the TC pointed out.

[QUOTE="Arc2012"]I personally believe that they are actively trying to discredit Nintendo and the Blue Ocean strategy because they are insecure "hardcore" gamers. But the numbers don't lie. Site hits are absolutely a motivation.LordQuorthon

That's an interesting idea too. However, I'm not really sure they even read Clayton Christensen's books. And if they did, they probably didn't really understand them.

True. But you don't have to understand any of it to see the effects.

Namely, this:

"Is this what gaming is going to become?" think so many terrified and territorial young men. "If only there were a website that could express my frustrations with this occurence for me! If only they would call Nintendo out for their blasphamy against 'true' gamers!"

IGN gets a wiff of the sentiment. Seeing their site hits are on the downward trend they decide they better make an appeal to the mob. And why not, their editors and reviewers feel the same way. (Don't believe me? Remember thier coverage for The Conduit? Do you really think that they were giving it so much of their time because they thought it was a fantastic game? Heck no! They were covering it because its the direction that they personally thought the Wii should go.) Instead of making them hold back on how they feel about the whole situation, why not just let them go to town.

So the editors actively attempt to weave a narrative that says, "Nintendo is lazy, they don't care about 'gamers.'" (Once again, don't believe me? Go check out the recent editorials and see who many times they call Nintendo lazy or suggest it.) It gives a certain population exactly what they want to hear, reinforces what they already think.

This is kind of how I'm seeing the whole situation at the moment. Disagree with me if you will, but seems like it to me.

Excuse me, what happeneed?hotfiree

'Maybe'? you present this and put up 'Maybe? in the topic title? sheesh.

[QUOTE="hotfiree"]Excuse me, what happeneed?turaaggeli

Basically, in the past month IGN's Nintendo team has written two articles criticising Nintendo:

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/106/1061550p1.html- 'Blinded by Mario'

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/105/1054621p1.html- 'Nintendo is lazy and you don't care'

Nice point there, I can see a reason for the whinning trafic-generating articles now.

So the Wii has a giant consumer base butthe 3rd party developers don't seem to be able to sell properly. Now it's happening to gaming sites like IGN too... there are millions of gamers but their trafic is going down... I'd say it is for a similar reason, they need to change and adapt to the new realities.

How many people do you really think that bought sucessful games like Wii Fit (and WF: Plus) because they read IGN's review? Do you think the millions of New Super Mario Bros buyers read a review in a gaming site before buying?

Wii games seem to sell a lot more based on word-of-mouth, friend's advices, social networks... Not based on their score like it used to be in other consoles.

Just look at Carnival Games, critic score 5.9 - 3.5million copies

True. But you don't have to understand any of it to see the effects.

Namely, this:

Arc2012

Ok. Now I see your point. You win.

I stopped going to IGN a long time ago, specifically because of there blatant bias.

The only time I go there is to see some of there VC reviews since GS stopped doing them. But I'm pretty sure some other sites review VC and Wiiware games.

[QUOTE="turaaggeli"][QUOTE="hotfiree"]Excuse me, what happeneed?manicfoot

Basically, in the past month IGN's Nintendo team has written two articles criticising Nintendo:

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/106/1061550p1.html- 'Blinded by Mario'

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/105/1054621p1.html- 'Nintendo is lazy and you don't care'

Can't really blame them truth be told. If it wasn't for "No More Heros 2" and "Tatsunoko VS Capcom" coming out next week, my Wii would still be collecting dust.

btw they hate the PSP too! these IGN writers are awful.....papton 2 won GOTY for the love of god

I'm pretty sure they did do that just to get some traffic.

I stopped going there because most of the forums were practically dead.

Can't really blame them truth be told. If it wasn't for "No More Heros 2" and "Tatsunoko VS Capcom" coming out next week, my Wii would still be collecting dust.

staindcoldlp

Can't really blame them truth be told. If it wasn't for "No More Heros 2" and "Tatsunoko VS Capcom" coming out next week, my Wii would still be collecting dust.

staindcoldlp

Now I'm not in essence saying these things are wrong and that these companies are lazy, what I'm saying is IGN's argument of laziness either should apply to all or none. Acting as if Nintendo is the only culprit of recycling ideas and sticking by the money making schemes is absolute nonsense. If thier lazy and it shold be held against them, then where is the article "Blinded by Infinity Ward" or "Santa Monica is Lazy" or "Try Something New Bungie" No they simply are trying to create turmoil for traffic and its pretty pathetic. Get peoples attention by doing what your suppose to be doing, better than everyone else. The sideshow routine loses its luster very quickly.

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[QUOTE="turaaggeli"] I'd like to know this as well.staindcoldlp

Basically, in the past month IGN's Nintendo team has written two articles criticising Nintendo:

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/106/1061550p1.html- 'Blinded by Mario'

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/105/1054621p1.html- 'Nintendo is lazy and you don't care'

Can't really blame them truth be told. If it wasn't for "No More Heros 2" and "Tatsunoko VS Capcom" coming out next week, my Wii would still be collecting dust.

So if it wasn't for games you want to play being released on the Wii, you wouldn't be interested in the console? Isn't that how it's supposed to work?

I am not surprised. As someone who liked to go to IGN for their Wii reviews I stopped going after they started acting like that. I am a reasonable Nintendo fan and I know the Wii has more than a few flaws, but the editors at IGN crossed the line.

[QUOTE="staindcoldlp"]

Can't really blame them truth be told. If it wasn't for "No More Heros 2" and "Tatsunoko VS Capcom" coming out next week, my Wii would still be collecting dust.

Sepewrath

Now I'm not in essence saying these things are wrong and that these companies are lazy, what I'm saying is IGN's argument of laziness either should apply to all or none. Acting as if Nintendo is the only culprit of recycling ideas and sticking by the money making schemes is absolute nonsense. If thier lazy and it shold be held against them, then where is the article "Blinded by Infinity Ward" or "Santa Monica is Lazy" or "Try Something New Bungie" No they simply are trying to create turmoil for traffic and its pretty pathetic. Get peoples attention by doing what your suppose to be doing, better than everyone else. The sideshow routine loses its luster very quickly.

I stoped going on IGN when they said the wii was crap because it didn't have achievments. That was a bit much for me

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

[QUOTE="turaaggeli"]

Basically, in the past month IGN's Nintendo team has written two articles criticising Nintendo:

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/106/1061550p1.html- 'Blinded by Mario'

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/105/1054621p1.html- 'Nintendo is lazy and you don't care'

staindcoldlp

Can't really blame them truth be told. If it wasn't for "No More Heros 2" and "Tatsunoko VS Capcom" coming out next week, my Wii would still be collecting dust.

I do feel sorry for the IGN nintendo team, theres barely any news to report i wonder what they do all day - besides write artilces like this ( ps3 , 360 team doesnt have time for this haha )

after all Grand theft auto formula changes completely every time! Thats innovation nintendo should learn from! And MW2 was praised to kingdom come. Bad mario bad!NeoFuso

There is what max , 20 of each of those games. There are 200+ (!!!!) mario titles

[QUOTE="staindcoldlp"]

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]

Can't really blame them truth be told. If it wasn't for "No More Heros 2" and "Tatsunoko VS Capcom" coming out next week, my Wii would still be collecting dust.

hotfiree

I do feel sorry for the IGN nintendo team, theres barely any news to report i wonder what they do all day - besides write artilces like this ( ps3 , 360 team doesnt have time for this haha )

after all Grand theft auto formula changes completely every time! Thats innovation nintendo should learn from! And MW2 was praised to kingdom come. Bad mario bad!NeoFuso

There is what max , 20 of each of those games. There are 200+ (!!!!) mario titles

You know that's 200+ title with the character Mario in a video game and not 200+ Main Mario games considering the fact that there are 9 Mario games on Nintendo consoles.

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[QUOTE="staindcoldlp"] Yeah haha i agree with them Did you know theres over 200 mario titles!? Speaks for itself

I do feel sorry for the IGN nintendo team, theres barely any news to report i wonder what they do all day - besides write artilces like this ( ps3 , 360 team doesnt have time for this haha )

[QUOTE="NeoFuso"]after all Grand theft auto formula changes completely every time! Thats innovation nintendo should learn from! And MW2 was praised to kingdom come. Bad mario bad!Seabas989

There is what max , 20 of each of those games. There are 200+ (!!!!) mario titles

You know that's 200+ title with the character Mario in a video game and not 200+ Main Mario games considering the fact that there are 9 Mario games on Nintendo consoles.

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="hotfiree"]

There is what max , 20 of each of those games. There are 200+ (!!!!) mario titles

hotfiree

You know that's 200+ title with the character Mario in a video game and not 200+ Main Mario games considering the fact that there are 9 Mario games on Nintendo consoles.

Well Mario is one the most well known gaming icons. However, there have not been 200+ main Mario games. For example, Smash Bros is not a mario game but it has Mario in it.

Plus the last 2d Mario game on a Nintendo console before NSMBWii was on the SNES in the early 90's.

I haven't visited IGN in over a year because of their childish writing. This is exclusing their blatant Wii criticism's, as well. I used to only use the site for cheats or FAQ's, but I figured I'd check out the community and their articles. I left the very same day and haven't gone back; their journalism is that pathetic. I remember before the Wii was released that all over the site was news about Wii, and how they were psyched for it. In fact, what they're complaining about now is exactly what they were hoping for then. Hypocritical much?

In the end they turned out to be a bunch of elitist asses that have the journalistic talent of a 12 year old.

[QUOTE="staindcoldlp"]

Can't really blame them truth be told. If it wasn't for "No More Heros 2" and "Tatsunoko VS Capcom" coming out next week, my Wii would still be collecting dust.

Sepewrath

Now I'm not in essence saying these things are wrong and that these companies are lazy, what I'm saying is IGN's argument of laziness either should apply to all or none. Acting as if Nintendo is the only culprit of recycling ideas and sticking by the money making schemes is absolute nonsense. If thier lazy and it shold be held against them, then where is the article "Blinded by Infinity Ward" or "Santa Monica is Lazy" or "Try Something New Bungie" No they simply are trying to create turmoil for traffic and its pretty pathetic. Get peoples attention by doing what your suppose to be doing, better than everyone else. The sideshow routine loses its luster very quickly.

Pretty much this. A new CoD or GoW comes out, people go nuts over it, though it's basically the same with a few new things. NSMBW comes out, it gets massacred (though sold quite well.) Guess what? It's basically the same with a few new things. It seems to me that people only pick on Nintendo because it was the only console that really strove to do something different this gen.