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#1 Sonick54
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http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=197057

for a month, people have been thinking of banning him apparently. Not that i blame them, the guy's just too good

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#2 wiifan001
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Nintendo didn't put Metaknight in the game and expect him to not be used in tournaments.

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#3 ZumaJones07
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I'm all for it. He has no match-ups that give him a disadvantage and the people who actually put up a challenge are only neutral match-ups. Metaknight. King of Spam.
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#4 nintendoman562
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There is always a character which people think is broken. There was Pit, Mr Game and Watch, Snake and now its Metaknight.

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#5 dtno132
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I really hate Meta Knight in brawl.
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#6 Sonick54
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There is always a character which people think is broken. There was Pit, Mr Game and Watch, Snake and now its Metaknight.

nintendoman562

who in the world considered pit broken? o_O

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#7 musicman748
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Ok so like i dont think he should get taken out. He doesnt bother me because i can beat him.
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#8 pierst179
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I like him a lot but since I don't play on pro tournaments I really don't care. :D
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#9 Dr_Corndog
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Brawl wasn't made for one-on-one games; it was made for four-way brawls, and Meta Knight is much more balanced there. Nintendo didn't set the character balance with one-on-one games in mind, so it makes sense that a character would be unbalanced.
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#10 alexh_99
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I suck with him

Also i can beat people online who play as him, maybe those people are not that good

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#11 KingBowser91
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I really hate Meta Knight in brawl.dtno132

I hate you :P

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#12 KingBowser91
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I suck with him

Also i can beat people online who play as him, maybe those people are not that good

alexh_99

I never lost online with MK and Mr G&W but I havent played that much online.

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#13 nintendofreak_2
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They need to ban Snake first. >_>
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#14 KingBowser91
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They need to ban Snake first. >_>nintendofreak_2

MK is God Tier.

Snake is Top Tier.

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#15 nintendofreak_2
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MK is God Tier.

Snake is Top Tier.

KingBowser91
They're both pretty equal in terms of OMGWTFBBQ.
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#16 latiosking12
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well I have got to read why. I use meta as a main so I gotta check. I have ike,and ice climbers to back me up
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#17 Sonick54
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Brawl wasn't made for one-on-one games; it was made for four-way brawls, and Meta Knight is much more balanced there. Nintendo didn't set the character balance with one-on-one games in mind, so it makes sense that a character would be unbalanced.Dr_Corndog

who said brawl was made for 4 players? in fact, who said brawl was meant to be played in a particular way?

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#18 KingBowser91
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[QUOTE="KingBowser91"]

MK is God Tier.

Snake is Top Tier.

nintendofreak_2

They're both pretty equal in terms of OMGWTFBBQ.

A good DK player can beat those 2.

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#19 nintendofreak_2
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A good DK player can beat those 2.

KingBowser91
The same could be said for any characters on any side. It's all about the player's skill, but when you have imbalances in characters, that's when skill starts to become less important.
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#20 Sonick54
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well I have got to read why. I use meta as a main so I gotta check. I have ike,and ice climbers to back me uplatiosking12

-Amazing priority

-very hard to gimp

-Dsmash is godly

-tornado stops almost every projectile

-probably the only character who can somewhat combo

-has 5 jumps, good recovery and can glide

-all of his matchups are positive save for two neutral i believe

-infinite dimensional cape

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#21 KingBowser91
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[QUOTE="KingBowser91"]

A good DK player can beat those 2.

nintendofreak_2

The same could be said for any characters on any side. It's all about the player's skill, but when you have imbalances in characters, that's when skill starts to become less important.

You got a point there and yeah MK and Snake are too good.

But I cant play with snake.

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#22 latiosking12
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[QUOTE="KingBowser91"]

A good DK player can beat those 2.

nintendofreak_2

The same could be said for any characters on any side. It's all about the player's skill, but when you have imbalances in characters, that's when skill starts to become less important.

That is true thats how pit was considered to be unblaced.

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#23 SUPER_FLY_
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I really hate Meta Knight in brawl.dtno132
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#24 eattacosAMR
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thats why I like doing team battle tournaments but I also think that he shouldnt be banned though
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#25 AdRock92
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I don't think they should be able to ban characters. Maybe they could merely ban a certain move of his like his d-smash.
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#26 lil_speedy_rvd
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that's not cool, if they ban meta knight, then some other character is gonna take the lead, then they gonna ban that char too, and it's gonna continue like that till there are no more characters left
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#27 WiiLover243
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i think ike sould be banned (im probably the reaon tou want him banned, i play as him all the time and do great)
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#28 WiiLover243
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that's not cool, if they ban meta knight, then some other character is gonna take the lead, then they gonna ban that char too, and it's gonna continue like that till there are no more characters leftlil_speedy_rvd

hey lil speedy, where can i make a brawler card???

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#29 KingBowser91
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[QUOTE="lil_speedy_rvd"]that's not cool, if they ban meta knight, then some other character is gonna take the lead, then they gonna ban that char too, and it's gonna continue like that till there are no more characters leftWiiLover243

hey lil speedy, where can i make a brawler card???

Click on mine :D

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#30 dragoniteftw616
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good. too many people use him. i hate him for lack of projectiles. which is why i use ness.

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#31 -Oath
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So the sore losers and tier whores get what they want...
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#32 king23_
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I like him a lot but since I don't play on pro tournaments I really don't care. :DPierst179
Exactly.
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#33 funsohng
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yeah, i agree. with one well-executed metaknight combo, u can pretty much smash one player in one shot

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#34 sman3579
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I can say more negative things about him then positive. Of course I only played as him 5 times (because he was so crappy) so my list might be off.
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#35 Skylarkell
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Snake and Metaknight are like the best charcaters, they're too good.
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#36 ZumaJones07
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Brawl wasn't made for one-on-one games; it was made for four-way brawls, and Meta Knight is much more balanced there. Nintendo didn't set the character balance with one-on-one games in mind, so it makes sense that a character would be unbalanced.Dr_Corndog
I'm sorry, but you're wrong ...and to those saying they can beat Metaknights have not played a good Metaknight. I can't stress that anymore than that.
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#37 nintendoman562
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[QUOTE="nintendoman562"]

There is always a character which people think is broken. There was Pit, Mr Game and Watch, Snake and now its Metaknight.

Sonick54

who in the world considered pit broken? o_O

At launch everybody considered pit to be one of the best characters.
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#38 Thiago26792
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Good idea. This will be while they find a disadvantage for him.
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#39 hathejoker
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No, because if they ban Meta Knight eventually they'll ban my main Snake.
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#40 Waffle_Fish
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No one likes Meta knight, sucks cause hes my main.
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#41 Sonick54
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[QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="nintendoman562"]

There is always a character which people think is broken. There was Pit, Mr Game and Watch, Snake and now its Metaknight.

nintendoman562

who in the world considered pit broken? o_O

At launch everybody considered pit to be one of the best characters.

one of the best character=/=broken

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#42 jomaster007
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no matter who they ban or limit or what moves, become considered "cheating" no game with this unique of characters will ever be perfectly balanced, so unless you wnat the next game to be all mario but with different skins for each of the characters i would quit complainingURL="http://www.mubos-md.com/brawlcards/levelup.php?20234"]
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no matter who they ban or limit or what moves, become considered "cheating" no game with this unique of characters will ever be perfectly balanced, so unless you wnat the next game to be all mario but with different skins for each of the characters i would quit complainingjomaster007
But Melee was more balanced than Brawl and it was the predecessor to Brawl. :? The gaps between characters in Brawl is entirely too vast
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#44 SuperSmashBro1
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Ok,I thought this was gonna be a joke topic but come on!

Snake >Meta Knight.

[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]They need to ban Snake first. >_>KingBowser91

MK is God Tier.

Snake is Top Tier.

Theres a new tier list?
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Weird but, well i dont mind/care...
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#46 ZumaJones07
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Ok,I thought this was gonna be a joke topic but come on!

Snake >Meta Knight.

SuperSmashBro1
Nope... Snake is a good counter to MK, but overall MK has better match-ups and once MK gets Snake in the air, MK is better. All snake has over MK is power, but that doesn't matter if MK can approach with the machnado.
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[QUOTE="jomaster007"]no matter who they ban or limit or what moves, become considered "cheating" no game with this unique of characters will ever be perfectly balanced, so unless you wnat the next game to be all mario but with different skins for each of the characters i would quit complainingZumaJones07
But Melee was more balanced than Brawl and it was the predecessor to Brawl. :? The gaps between characters in Brawl is entirely too vast

Are you kidding me? There were about 4-5 characters in Melee that were FAR above every other character. Brawl, especially in tournaments, seems to be the most balanced so far. As a few others have mentioned, this game will never be perfectly balanced, it simply isn't possible.

Its a shame Wii doesn't have an update system so Nintendo could patch some of their games though, but maybe someday in the future I suppose.

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thats stupid... people dont win tourneys by playing as MK, they win by practicing with him over and over. you think someone can win by picking MK when they never used him before? no, it takes practice and skill to become good with a character. people overestimate MK way too much. the only reasons anyone loses is because the person is better than you, the stage gives the other player an advantage over you, or luck. tiers dont have as much of an effect as people think.

besides if they take out MK, everyone who uses him will go straight to snake. once snake starts winning too much, theyll take him out, then they will go to marth or game and watch. that will continue untill the only players left are captain falcon and yoshi. no one will sign up for tourneys anymore because theyre to limited and boring.

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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="jomaster007"]no matter who they ban or limit or what moves, become considered "cheating" no game with this unique of characters will ever be perfectly balanced, so unless you wnat the next game to be all mario but with different skins for each of the characters i would quit complainingFreemont1982

But Melee was more balanced than Brawl and it was the predecessor to Brawl. :? The gaps between characters in Brawl is entirely too vast

Are you kidding me? There were about 4-5 characters in Melee that were FAR above every other character. Brawl, especially in tournaments, seems to be the most balanced so far. As a few others have mentioned, this game will never be perfectly balanced, it simply isn't possible.

Its a shame Wii doesn't have an update system so Nintendo could patch some of their games though, but maybe someday in the future I suppose.

No I'm not kidding. You obviously don't know how many tourneys MK wins - he wins about half and a majority of the others go to Snakes. So you must realize that MK wins AT LEAST every other tourney right? That's not balance - we didn't see Fox winning that many tourneys in Brawl. People only say Brawl is more balanced because it's more noob friendly. and what 4-5 characters in Melee were far above the rest?

thats stupid... people dont win tourneys by playing as MK, they win by practicing with him over and over. you think someone can win by picking MK when they never used him before? no, it takes practice and skill to become good with a character. people overestimate MK way too much. the only reasons anyone loses is because the person is better than you, the stage gives the other player an advantage over you, or luck. tiers dont have as much of an effect as people think.

besides if they take out MK, everyone who uses him will go straight to snake. once snake starts winning too much, theyll take him out, then they will go to marth or game and watch. that will continue untill the only players left are captain falcon and yoshi. no one will sign up for tourneys anymore because theyre to limited and boring.

Sword-Demon
You obviously didn't read through the text in the link the TC provided. And Metaknight does not take skill to master - as I revealed in the video I posted on the first page. Snake takes skill to master, Snake has several counters and disadvantages. MK does not.
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thats stupid... people dont win tourneys by playing as MK, they win by practicing with him over and over. you think someone can win by picking MK when they never used him before? no, it takes practice and skill to become good with a character. people overestimate MK way too much. the only reasons anyone loses is because the person is better than you, the stage gives the other player an advantage over you, or luck. tiers dont have as much of an effect as people think.

besides if they take out MK, everyone who uses him will go straight to snake. once snake starts winning too much, theyll take him out, then they will go to marth or game and watch. that will continue untill the only players left are captain falcon and yoshi. no one will sign up for tourneys anymore because theyre to limited and boring.

Sword-Demon

Thank you.

Metaknight is fast, but not unbeatable. During a local tournament, I've also encountered a lot of MK's, but I took care of all of them. By who? My main, Lucas. This is why I threw the tier list right out the window (not literaly of course:P ).