MGS3 on 3DS: Kinda pointless now

Sorry fellas, I was looking forward to MGS3 being remade on the 3DS until Konami announced remakes of 2, 3, and Peace Walker (for home consoles) all on one disc, around the same time frame of the MGS3 3D release (November) and they will probably be the same price as the 3DS game ($39.99)

Does anyone understand why they are even remaking 3 for the 3DS anymore?

I mean, clearly people are more than likely going to choose the other platforms 3 is getting ported to, since it will be the same price (more than likely) and have even more content (and probably online multi-player as well)

I'd prefer it if they just scrapped MGS3 3D now and started working on something original, it was fine with me when it was a port/remake of a stellar game and only being remade for 3DS, but honestly I can't see it as anything but a waste of time anymore.

Any thoughts? Would you rather Konami drop MGS3 3D and work on something else for the 3DS or are you going to go ahead and get MGS3 3D in spite of it being remade with more features and releasing near the same time on other platforms?

i wouldn't say "pointless", as it's still a remake rather than a texture patch, and not everyone can pick one or the other, but yeah, i'm most likely going with the version that has 3 games i haven't played.

The thing is it's going to control complete different and implement things that a console will never due, that's the whole appeal(for me at least). It's reworked for the 3ds with touch screen control's and gyroscope goodness, I would hardly call it "pointless". Going through that jungle with the stereoscopic 3D with leaves and branches coming at your face is going to be priceless, so no I don't agree with you at all. F0urTwenty

this. its very different not a port.

have you see that trailer iamable posted... the whole thing with snake crawling through the grass and that enemy dropping his cigarrtte box? that will be so awesome in 3d...
the producer said in the pre-e3 conference that this game will take full advcantage the the 3d features and hardware.

[QUOTE="F0urTwenty"]The thing is it's going to control complete different and implement things that a console will never due, that's the whole appeal(for me at least). It's reworked for the 3ds with touch screen control's and gyroscope goodness, I would hardly call it "pointless". Going through that jungle with the stereoscopic 3D with leaves and branches coming at your face is going to be priceless, so no I don't agree with you at all. KBFloYd

this. its very different not a port.

have you see that trailer iamable posted... the whole thing with snake crawling through the grass and that enemy dropping his cigarrtte box? that will be so awesome in 3d...
the producer said in the pre-e3 conference that this game will take full advcantage the the 3d features and hardware.

I don't think it's pointless.

The HD games aren't in HD and the 3DS has 3DS specific features - Plus, its portable.

Personally, I don't care - I have no interest in MGS.

I'll be getting both.

MGS3 on 3DS for on-the-go. That alone justifies a purchase. I'll also buy the HD collection because of Peace Walker.

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[QUOTE="F0urTwenty"]The thing is it's going to control complete different and implement things that a console will never due, that's the whole appeal(for me at least). It's reworked for the 3ds with touch screen control's and gyroscope goodness, I would hardly call it "pointless". Going through that jungle with the stereoscopic 3D with leaves and branches coming at your face is going to be priceless, so no I don't agree with you at all. F0urTwenty

this. its very different not a port.

have you see that trailer iamable posted... the whole thing with snake crawling through the grass and that enemy dropping his cigarrtte box? that will be so awesome in 3d...
the producer said in the pre-e3 conference that this game will take full advcantage the the 3d features and hardware.

You're telling me the ability to take pictures (which by the way nothing is preventing that from happening on other consoles, they can use cameras too ya know) and play in 3D (which is neat) is better than 2 full games and possibly online multiplayer in Snake Eater? I mean this is Nintendo here, we probably aren't getting Metal Gear Online in MGS3 3D (also since it will use a 2GB Game Card will we have a lot of full video cut scenes?)

Also, there isn't anything saying the MGS2/MGS3 and PW ports on consoles won't support 3D either on 3DTVs technically, just isn't announced yet. Also, I'm thinking it will be easier to control the camera with a second analog stick than with the touch screen or L/R but I could be wrong.

I'm sorry but achievements/trophies, online play, a bigger screen to play on, controls better suited for a full controller, 2 awesome games for the same price, sounds better to me.

From a business stand point it makes no sense to release them so close to one another. Hopefully Snake Eater 3D (anyone else scared it won't be Subsistance content?) will get a slight delay or else I can't see it doing anything other than dieing on retail shelves (especially since it's likely to run up against Super Mario 3D and Mario Kart this fall too)

I'm sorry but achievements/trophies, online play, a bigger screen to play on, controls better suited for a full controller, 2 awesome games for the same price, sounds better to me.

From a business stand point it makes no sense to release them so close to one another. Hopefully Snake Eater 3D (anyone else scared it won't be Subsistance content?) will get a slight delay or else I can't see it doing anything other than dieing on retail shelves (especially since it's likely to run up against Super Mario 3D and Mario Kart this fall too)

darth-pyschosis

Who said they cannot co-exist?

Look at Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition versus Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition. One is a portable experience and the other isn't. The console experience is more meatier and feature packed than the portable, but there are users that will still pick up a portable version for just that - it's portable and has unique features of its own.

Plus, releasing them both close to each other shouldn't matter much. SSFIV3D was a hit on the 3DS (as far as I can recall) and Arcade Edition is releasing 3 months later, with more content.

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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

this. its very different not a port.

have you see that trailer iamable posted... the whole thing with snake crawling through the grass and that enemy dropping his cigarrtte box? that will be so awesome in 3d...
the producer said in the pre-e3 conference that this game will take full advcantage the the 3d features and hardware.

darth-pyschosis

You're telling me the ability to take pictures (which by the way nothing is preventing that from happening on other consoles, they can use cameras too ya know) and play in 3D (which is neat) is better than 2 full games and possibly online multiplayer in Snake Eater? I mean this is Nintendo here, we probably aren't getting Metal Gear Online in MGS3 3D (also since it will use a 2GB Game Card will we have a lot of full video cut scenes?)

Also, there isn't anything saying the MGS2/MGS3 and PW ports on consoles won't support 3D either on 3DTVs technically, just isn't announced yet. Also, I'm thinking it will be easier to control the camera with a second analog stick than with the touch screen or L/R but I could be wrong.

I'm sorry but achievements/trophies, online play, a bigger screen to play on, controls better suited for a full controller, 2 awesome games for the same price, sounds better to me.

From a business stand point it makes no sense to release them so close to one another. Hopefully Snake Eater 3D (anyone else scared it won't be Subsistance content?) will get a slight delay or else I can't see it doing anything other than dieing on retail shelves (especially since it's likely to run up against Super Mario 3D and Mario Kart this fall too)

it's not pointless bro.. the SP could be arguably better... you can buy the hd version to play online if you like ..

you can get both.. i am.

Boobie camo darth... boobie camo.... No I feel you on the business standpoint, and I for one will be picking up both games. I just want you too see how it's not pointless, because I'm sure you already watched the whole Konami Pre-E3 event and listened to the 3D snake eater Dev say how it would implement all of the features of the 3DS. So this is going to be a new experience even though by default it's going to be the same game and story, but will definitely feel fresh and new because it's simply on the 3DS. It's in your pocket, gyro, boobie camo, glasses less 3D, probably an easier and faster menu system to access, yoshi lurking, did I mention boobie camo? You are going to not want to pass on this new experience of an old game(as weird as that sounds). :P

No. Such a narrow-minded view, too. I guess it should have been a PS3 exclusive, too. 3DS gamers should be forced to buy 360's and PS3's to play the game. And forget ever wanting to take it with you.

Not pointless, but DEFINETLY a lot less exciting now.

You're telling me the ability to take pictures (which by the way nothing is preventing that from happening on other consoles, they can use cameras too ya know) and play in 3D (which is neat) is better than 2 full games and possibly online multiplayer in Snake Eater? I mean this is Nintendo here, we probably aren't getting Metal Gear Online in MGS3 3D (also since it will use a 2GB Game Card will we have a lot of full video cut scenes?)

darth-pyschosis

Oot is on the gamecube n64 adn wii so why remake it as the best 3DS game? hmm idk :D

I'm probably going to get both, but if this doesn't come out first its not going to sell that well

The HD version is going to be a straight up port, and it didn't say it was MGS3 Subsistence either, so there is still going to be a fair bit missing, the 3DS version however is a remake, so they'll probably be changing a fair bit and adding quite a alot more to it... I'm still looking forward to MGS3 3D, and i will be getting the HD collection as well, mostly just because as awesome as Peace Walker was the PSP is pretty inept when it comes to controller a gun in games..need that second analog.PoisoN_Facecam0

"Konami emphasized that both HD remakes are more than just emulator-based updates. The games are being "optimized and rebuilt" for the PS3 and Xbox 360, with a new user interface customized for HD resolutions. Konami has also redrawn the games' 2D art, effects, and fonts; improved audio quality; and included trophies and achievements. Force feedback and right analog stick functionality have also been added."

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"]The HD version is going to be a straight up port, and it didn't say it was MGS3 Subsistence either, so there is still going to be a fair bit missing, the 3DS version however is a remake, so they'll probably be changing a fair bit and adding quite a alot more to it... I'm still looking forward to MGS3 3D, and i will be getting the HD collection as well, mostly just because as awesome as Peace Walker was the PSP is pretty inept when it comes to controller a gun in games..need that second analog.SakusEnvoy

"Konami emphasized that both HD remakes are more than just emulator-based updates. The games are being "optimized and rebuilt" for the PS3 and Xbox 360, with a new user interface customized for HD resolutions. Konami has also redrawn the games' 2D art, effects, and fonts; improved audio quality; and included trophies and achievements. Force feedback and right analog stick functionality have also been added."

but but but... YOSHI!

Somewhat pointless. Depends on what you own, how many Metal Gear games you've played before etc.

Subsistence featured a user controllable camera, the first two Metal Gear games, a strong online component, and some extra modes of play. The HD collection is going to include 3 fantastic games (well...two fantastic, and the other has a whiny man girl) with upgraded visuals and even if they don't have the changes that the 3D version might get, the superb bang per buck (assuming it will be priced in the same ballpark as other collections) is undeniable. The 3D version looks like it'll utilize all the features unique to the 3DS very nicely which is of course one of Kojima's trademarks.

So what if you're trying to maximize the bang per buck? The 3DS version isn't certainly isn't the way to go.
Maybe you've never gotten into the Metal Gear series but feel like now is a good time? Again, the 3DS game probably isn't the best way to go.

The 3DS version certainly has its merits and it will definitely be a great game, but the only reason I can see you would buy the 3D version over the HD version is if you have either:

• Played MGS2 and Peacewalker but not 3
• Don't own a HD console
• Are a huge Metal Gear fan and will buy anything

I don't understand how the presence of the game on PS3/360 makes this version pointless. By that logic, it was all ready pointless (before the recent announcement of the HD re-releases) since it was also on PS2.

Also, I know someone who only has a 3DS who is extremely excited for this.

(also since it will use a 2GB Game Card will we have a lot of full video cut scenes?)darth-pyschosis

Metal Gear Solid cutscenes have always been entirely in real time, which takes up less memory anyway, so I don't think you have to worry about that kind of thing.

By that logic, it was all ready pointless (before the recent announcement of the HD re-releases) since it was also on PS2.GreySeal9

That was actually my exact response to this thread title. For me, it's already pointless because I played MGS3 years ago and kinda liked it but not enough to play through it again. I'd rather have seen something made specifically for the 3DS with new characters and story, like the MGS game for Game Boy Color. That game was excellent. It doesn't need to be the epic piece of storytelling that the main games are to still be really fun (though the GBC game still had a good story).

I don't understand how the presence of the game on PS3/360 makes this version pointless. By that logic, it was all ready pointless (before the recent announcement of the HD re-releases) since it was also on PS2.

Also, I know someone who only has a 3DS who is extremely excited for this.

GreySeal9

The thing is gamers were expecting it to be the definitive version(since it was going to be an improvement over the ps2 version), but with the HD announcement we're not sure what to expect(what if they use the newer models but with higher res?).

Now if the HD release is only a resolution bump, then theres nothing to worry about.

This has been the best HD release

Sorry for the amount of pics, spoiler thing isn't working for me :(

To be honest although I am a Nintendo fanboy I won't be getting the 3DS version, and will go with the HD collection instead ^_^

MGS3 in 3d. mgs 2,3 and peace walker in HD. Im pretty sure there is an obvious difference in there, i can seem to know the difference especially when you turn on the 3d

Are you the one that wrote this bs article?

http://holdselect.com/2011/06/03/has-konami-killed-mgs3dss-chance-of-success-by-announcing-the-mgs-hd-collection/

Are you the one that wrote this bs article?

http://holdselect.com/2011/06/03/has-konami-killed-mgs3dss-chance-of-success-by-announcing-the-mgs-hd-collection/

quickposter

LOL he wrote that xD

Sorry fellas, I was looking forward to MGS3 being remade on the 3DS until Konami announced remakes of 2, 3, and Peace Walker (for home consoles) all on one disc, around the same time frame of the MGS3 3D release (November) and they will probably be the same price as the 3DS game ($39.99)

Does anyone understand why they are even remaking 3 for the 3DS anymore?

I mean, clearly people are more than likely going to choose the other platforms 3 is getting ported to, since it will be the same price (more than likely) and have even more content (and probably online multi-player as well)

I'd prefer it if they just scrapped MGS3 3D now and started working on something original, it was fine with me when it was a port/remake of a stellar game and only being remade for 3DS, but honestly I can't see it as anything but a waste of time anymore.

Any thoughts? Would you rather Konami drop MGS3 3D and work on something else for the 3DS or are you going to go ahead and get MGS3 3D in spite of it being remade with more features and releasing near the same time on other platforms?

darth-pyschosis

Gah sorry, Konami not Capcom. I don't really play the Metal Gear games so I kinda always get them mixed up with Capcom for some reason.

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I don't understand how the presence of the game on PS3/360 makes this version pointless. By that logic, it was all ready pointless (before the recent announcement of the HD re-releases) since it was also on PS2.

Also, I know someone who only has a 3DS who is extremely excited for this.

lbjkurono23

The thing is gamers were expecting it to be the definitive version(since it was going to be an improvement over the ps2 version), but with the HD announcement we're not sure what to expect(what if they use the newer models but with higher res?).

Now if the HD release is only a resolution bump, then theres nothing to worry about.

*Whole lotta comparative images*

The MGS3DS images you showed are from last year's E3's barely-interactive demo. The shots that have just been released look nowhere near this good, and many of them look like they contain ripped Peace Walker assets.

MGS3DS at E3 2010:

MGS3D now:

Disappointing, I know. I'm certain better graphics than portrayed in the image above are possible on DS, look at Resident Evil revelations.

It's a little more than a port actually.

http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/mgs-hd-collection---screenshot/1218503

As you can see it's enhanced. Not very much better, but still.

It's definately a port, while the 3ds version is completely rebuild and is a remake. That's a lot better ofcourse.

Despite owning a 360, I will probably getMGS3 for the 3DS. I work away a lot so portable gaming is looking more and more appealing to me as the weeks go by lol :)