Monster hunter: Video is in game graphics!

I just watched the nintendo conference here,

http://www.irwebcasting.com/071010/53/f078bbc3f8/main/index_hi.htm

and at the end (around 43 min), one of the developers at Capcom claimed that the movie was in-game graphics. Finally 3rd parites are starting to tale advantage of Wii's power.

Edit: Here's an article about it. It's not much news but worth checking

http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/10/capcom-monster-hunter-requires-strong.html

Better video quality here

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26222.html

I there proof of that being in game? It says they created that with the Wii's hardware, that doesn't necessarily mean in game graphics. They could just mean cut scenes.nintendofreak_2

at the end of the conference he said it was in game, unless I didn't hear correctly

OMG why did anyone think it wasn't?!?!

You mean the guy from Capcom? He said something along the lines of creating those images with the Wii's hardware. Not necessarily meaning in game.nintendofreak_2

you do realise that if the hardware can create those images, then it can be used in a game... That's like saying, well a Developer may be ABLE to make the wii do that, but it doesn't mean he will
true it doesn't mean that it definitly is, but why would they change things when they already have it done like that?

You mean the guy from Capcom? He said something along the lines of creating those images with the Wii's hardware. Not necessarily meaning in game.nintendofreak_2

He said it was actually made with the Wii's hardware, I don't know what it would mean otherwise. Why would he tell us that when it's obvious they are using wii hardware. (My knolewdge on game programming isn't that great)

you do realise that if the hardware can create those images, then it can be used in a game... That's like saying, well a Developer may be ABLE to make the wii do that, but it doesn't mean he will
true it doesn't mean that it definitly is, but why would they change things when they already have it done like that?

monty_4256

[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]You mean the guy from Capcom? He said something along the lines of creating those images with the Wii's hardware. Not necessarily meaning in game.vnc20100

He said it was actually made with the Wii's hardware, I don't know what it would mean otherwise. Why would he tell us that when it's obvious they are using wii hardware. (My knolewdge on game programming isn't that great)

[QUOTE="monty_4256"]

you do realise that if the hardware can create those images, then it can be used in a game... That's like saying, well a Developer may be ABLE to make the wii do that, but it doesn't mean he will
true it doesn't mean that it definitly is, but why would they change things when they already have it done like that?

nintendofreak_2

well your being shown proof and denying it

[QUOTE="monty_4256"]

you do realise that if the hardware can create those images, then it can be used in a game... That's like saying, well a Developer may be ABLE to make the wii do that, but it doesn't mean he will
true it doesn't mean that it definitly is, but why would they change things when they already have it done like that?

nintendofreak_2

Hmm, where do you come from

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21554.html

Hmm, where do you come from

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21554.html

vnc20100

well your being shown proof and denying it

monty_4256

your completely right tho

if the console can create it, then it's usable
the whole interface isn't controlled by the graphics card (which in consoles is the central video section, unlike a PC) so unless the interfacing weighs heavily on the processor then it should be fine
which no interface does that, so therefore saying "the wii may be able to create it but it's not in game" justdoesn;t make sense

monty_4256

And I'm sure SMG is just the beginning of waht the Wii can do. Read this small article here

http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/09/wii-is-more-powerful-than-xbox-gamecube.html

And I'm sure SMG is just the beginning of waht the Wii can do. Read this small article here

http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/09/wii-is-more-powerful-than-xbox-gamecube.html

vnc20100

[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]You mean the guy from Capcom? He said something along the lines of creating those images with the Wii's hardware. Not necessarily meaning in game.monty_4256

you do realise that if the hardware can create those images, then it can be used in a game... That's like saying, well a Developer may be ABLE to make the wii do that, but it doesn't mean he will
true it doesn't mean that it definitly is, but why would they change things when they already have it done like that?

I think that when mr nintendofreak was refering to "in game" he meant that the images aren't necessarily from the gameplay section of the game. The Wii may be able to display beautiful pre-rendered movies in a game but when it comes time to render images in real time the graphics cannot be as good.

[QUOTE="monty_4256"]

[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]You mean the guy from Capcom? He said something along the lines of creating those images with the Wii's hardware. Not necessarily meaning in game.BigWill123

you do realise that if the hardware can create those images, then it can be used in a game... That's like saying, well a Developer may be ABLE to make the wii do that, but it doesn't mean he will
true it doesn't mean that it definitly is, but why would they change things when they already have it done like that?

I think that when mr nintendofreak was refering to "in game" he meant that the images aren't necessarily from the gameplay section of the game. The Wii may be able to display beautiful pre-rendered movies in a game but when it comes time to render images in real time the graphics cannot be as good.

"The images you see are created in the actual Wii hardware." Those are his exact words.nintendofreak_2

well that means that the wii is creating the polygons
no matter what anyone says here it's gonna be shown in a few months anywaymonty_4256

Is it the same video thats being shown on gametrailers? http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26222.htmlRamadear

[QUOTE="monty_4256"]well that means that the wii is creating the polygons
no matter what anyone says here it's gonna be shown in a few months anywaynintendofreak_2

We will have to see I guess, I hope Capcom is "taking advantage of the Wii'S hardware" RE4 looked good, but the Wii can do far more than that.

can somebody cut that part of the monster hunter thing cuz i wont watch a 45mint vid to see it

or somebody have it through youtube or something!!

help:(

how is the remote used? and its an adventure, yes?fienno123

we don't know and no, it's a game that you hunt monsters
no real story, no real meaning except that you try to kill 1 of each monster i think

An other article related to this news. Not much revealed but still interesting.

http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2007/10/capcom-monster-hunter-requires-strong.html

thanks 4 teh linkylulu52

No problem :)

Monster Hunter is a Capcom product. I think this company would be the ones for the job of really pushing the Wii'sgraphical power. Capcom took the Gamecube and was able to impressively produce RE4 for it. I think if Monster Hunter, gets the same treatment, but better--it would really show what the Wii can really do.

[QUOTE="vnc20100"]

Hmm, where do you come from

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21554.html

nintendofreak_2

well your being shown proof and denying it

monty_4256

your completely right tho

if the console can create it, then it's usable
the whole interface isn't controlled by the graphics card (which in consoles is the central video section, unlike a PC) so unless the interfacing weighs heavily on the processor then it should be fine
which no interface does that, so therefore saying "the wii may be able to create it but it's not in game" justdoesn;t make sense

monty_4256

heah shut up. its cant be proved or denied by you saying i dont think so

I there proof of that being in game? It says they created that with the Wii's hardware, that doesn't necessarily mean in game graphics. They could just mean cut scenes.nintendofreak_2

LOL, are you serious, if it were CGI they would make it on PCs not Wii's hardware. Also, nobody knows Wii's real specs except that it's at least twice the Gamecubes power. Also, the simple fact that he actually had to say it's running on Wii's hardware is enough to covince me that it's in-game otherwise it would have been obvious it was CGI and he wouldn't have said anything about it. Just because you have not seen so many Wii games look that good does not mean the Wii can't do it.

:lol: those are 3d models..I can tell because of the physical interactions and the camera. I do game models AND animation on the Blender engine ( soon the Unreal engine), so I can honestly say that those are in game models. THE only thing that did look like animation was the ending part where the camera dives underneath the water. If it were in game, the water would not have beautifuly overlapped and rose over the camera, neither crysis nor any other power house game has been able to beautifully do this because of the complex lighting and physics effect of water.BET8390

Those look like normal water effects to me, I've seen better effects in Mario Galaxy. and also, LOL if you think crysis has worse water effects than this.

[QUOTE="BET8390"]:lol: those are 3d models..I can tell because of the physical interactions and the camera. I do game models AND animation on the Blender engine ( soon the Unreal engine), so I can honestly say that those are in game models. THE only thing that did look like animation was the ending part where the camera dives underneath the water. If it were in game, the water would not have beautifuly overlapped and rose over the camera, neither crysis nor any other power house game has been able to beautifully do this because of the complex lighting and physics effect of water.cobrax80

Those look like normal water effects to me, I've seen better effects in Mario Galaxy. and also, LOL if you think crysis has worse water effects than this.

Beaten Kaitos, has amzing water effect in battles. But I agrre that the last part still look cinematic.

[QUOTE="cobrax80"]

[QUOTE="BET8390"]:lol: those are 3d models..I can tell because of the physical interactions and the camera. I do game models AND animation on the Blender engine ( soon the Unreal engine), so I can honestly say that those are in game models. THE only thing that did look like animation was the ending part where the camera dives underneath the water. If it were in game, the water would not have beautifuly overlapped and rose over the camera, neither crysis nor any other power house game has been able to beautifully do this because of the complex lighting and physics effect of water.vnc20100

Those look like normal water effects to me, I've seen better effects in Mario Galaxy. and also, LOL if you think crysis has worse water effects than this.

Beaten Kaitos, has amzing water effect in battles. But I agrre that the last part still look cinematic.

I'm sure Mario Sunshine had the best water effects last gen, anyway, I still don't think that last part was cinematic because the background didn't look so good and I don't think they would put in some CGI into the trailer, they probably saved the best looking part of the trailer for last. But, who knows.

[QUOTE="vnc20100"][QUOTE="cobrax80"]

[QUOTE="BET8390"]:lol: those are 3d models..I can tell because of the physical interactions and the camera. I do game models AND animation on the Blender engine ( soon the Unreal engine), so I can honestly say that those are in game models. THE only thing that did look like animation was the ending part where the camera dives underneath the water. If it were in game, the water would not have beautifuly overlapped and rose over the camera, neither crysis nor any other power house game has been able to beautifully do this because of the complex lighting and physics effect of water.cobrax80

Those look like normal water effects to me, I've seen better effects in Mario Galaxy. and also, LOL if you think crysis has worse water effects than this.

Beaten Kaitos, has amzing water effect in battles. But I agrre that the last part still look cinematic.

I'm sure Mario Sunshine had the best water effects last gen, anyway, I still don't think that last part was cinematic because the background didn't look so good and I don't think they would put in some CGI into the trailer, they probably saved the best looking part of the trailer for last. But, who knows.

I was talking about the way the Camera DIVES into the water. Transitioning between the top water effects (reflections, High dynamic range lighting) to the bottom of the water (clear with motion blur) is'nt the most beautiful transition and somehow they're are able to do it better than crysis, which isn't a subtle transition.THIS leads me to believe that this one part of the trailer is a cut scene of camera effect of somehow and not in game (although the environment is).

A bigger quality of the video can be found here.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26222.html