new factor 5 game is not kid icarus...it is....

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#1 Ironre5
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going to be crap, since in an interview with IGN a few days ago, they said that it was going to be as casual as possible....which really sucks, now hopefully ninty assigns retro with kid icarus project.....
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old, but thanks for the details.
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#3 lzorro
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Wait but it's still Kid Icarus?
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Why do people say that casual games are crap? Read the top 10 NPD titles on each month and you'll see on the list that most are casual games.
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#5 JAB991
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Some casual games are good. The Smash Bros. games aren't particularly hardcore.
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#6 metroidfood
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Where in the interview did they say that? Oh right, they didn't.

Next time at least try and back up your claims with a quote.

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#7 mctooth
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casual...aw, what the heck! that stinks, i dont even know exactly what that means, it just isnt good
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#8 hnic7466
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has anyone not thought that the factor 5 game could be star fox i mean the past factor 5 games in a while have been flying games it makes sense it could be starfox
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#9 JAB991
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Where in the interview did they say that? Oh right, they didn't.

Next time at least try and back up your claims with a quote.

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Some casual games are good. The Smash Bros. games aren't particularly hardcore.JAB991

(Waits for the rapid fanboys to rip JAB991 apart and post retarted videos of Marth jumping around)

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#11 Ironre5
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[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

Where in the interview did they say that? Oh right, they didn't.

Next time at least try and back up your claims with a quote.

JAB991

IGN's most recent Wiik in Review

thanks you JAB991..atleast someone on this site, doesnt start bashing people for no reason at all...and yes its in IGNs latest Wiik in review....i would have reported this news on monday itself, when the podcast was available, but i had a series of tests to prepare for, plus i had work too, so sorry about that, i usually report stuff as soon as i find out, but i was too busy......

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Halo 3, GTA 4, SSBB, Mario Kart Wii, Spore

All games menitioned above appeal to a casual crowd more so than a hardcore one. Point? Casual =/= bad.
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#13 Ironre5
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Where in the interview did they say that? Oh right, they didn't.

Next time at least try and back up your claims with a quote.

metroidfood

and just to further spoon feed you ill give you a link to the podcast...go download it and listen to it....i also recomment listening to the "three-red-lights podcast" from the 360 ign team, both the wii and the 360 weekly podcasts are hilarious, i have been listening to them for a couple of months now.....

http://wii.ign.com/articles/851/851288p1.html

see i have no intention of providing BS information, im not like that......

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#14 Ironre5
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Why do people say that casual games are crap? Read the top 10 NPD titles on each month and you'll see on the list that most are casual games. chris3116

at the same time you need to realise that the people purchasing these casual games arent true gamers, theyre old ppl, ppl who work and arent serious abt games, true hardcore gamers scoff at these games...

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why hasnt any one compliained about this before this gen,, tell me one good reason i should believe the tc isnt being biased against the wii , for real most games made today cater to the casual , its been that way since in fact in reallity theres no such thing as hardcore, you wanna know what hard core is . its a type of match in wrestling,, and if every game was that, than we will be in our 2nd game crash ,, and quite frankly i been playing my wii and 360 more and most of the games on wii are better and funner and have split screen 2-4 players whike most of 360s software is what i played out since n64 era examples all the fpses 360s got,, all the same formula used since goldeneye 007 without splitscreen which is why i do not like first person shooters of today. aside from a few select fpses that offer it ,

you see my point ,, what would you chooose.. take out all the genres like party -rpg-platformer and just keep releasing fpses ,,,

or keep it with a variety what ever you choose though it dont matter developers do not come to these forums so why waste your time complaining and dosent comparing games on this forum result in locked topics. that stuff belongs in system wars ! and i agree 1/2 percent, most casual games are good,, and actually wii is made perfect for fpses which its got plenty of to begin with, as well as these types of games , which is why the wii is selling more and still took crown last month regardless ,

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its going to be a good casual game but the dissappointment is they have the power to revive series like Star fox and Kid Icarus.
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#17 jmizzal
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He did say it was goin to be casual, he also said before Lair came out that Lair was a casual game. Casual to them means more as Mario, Halo and hardcore to them means No More Heros, Man Hunt.
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why hasnt any one compliained about this before this gen,, tell me one good reason i should believe the tc isnt being biased against the wii , for real most games made today cater to the casual , its been that way since in fact in reallity theres no such thing as hardcore, you wanna know what hard core is . its a type of match in wrestling,, and if every game was that, than we will be in our 2nd game crash ,, and quite frankly i been playing my wii and 360 more and most of the games on wii are better and funner and have split screen 2-4 players whike most of 360s software is what i played out since n64 era examples all the fpses 360s got,, all the same formula used since goldeneye 007 without splitscreen which is why i do not like first person shooters of today. aside from a few select fpses that offer it ,

you see my point ,, what would you chooose.. take out all the genres like party -rpg-platformer and just keep releasing fpses ,,,

or keep it with a variety what ever you choose though it dont matter developers do not come to these forums so why waste your time complaining and dosent comparing games on this forum result in locked topics. that stuff belongs in system wars ! and i agree 1/2 percent, most casual games are good,, and actually wii is made perfect for fpses which its got plenty of to begin with, as well as these types of games , which is why the wii is selling more and still took crown last month regardless ,

mariokart64fan

I am not being biased towards the wii...i love nintendo as my primary console, my 360 is my secondary console...but i do hate the casual games that are coming out now, which are half ass*ed efforts made by developers who just wish to earn $$$$$....i only play hardcore titles, and dont tell me theres no such thing as hardcore vs casual games...youre just misinformed if you think that....

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[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

why hasnt any one compliained about this before this gen,, tell me one good reason i should believe the tc isnt being biased against the wii , for real most games made today cater to the casual , its been that way since in fact in reallity theres no such thing as hardcore, you wanna know what hard core is . its a type of match in wrestling,, and if every game was that, than we will be in our 2nd game crash ,, and quite frankly i been playing my wii and 360 more and most of the games on wii are better and funner and have split screen 2-4 players whike most of 360s software is what i played out since n64 era examples all the fpses 360s got,, all the same formula used since goldeneye 007 without splitscreen which is why i do not like first person shooters of today. aside from a few select fpses that offer it ,

you see my point ,, what would you chooose.. take out all the genres like party -rpg-platformer and just keep releasing fpses ,,,

or keep it with a variety what ever you choose though it dont matter developers do not come to these forums so why waste your time complaining and dosent comparing games on this forum result in locked topics. that stuff belongs in system wars ! and i agree 1/2 percent, most casual games are good,, and actually wii is made perfect for fpses which its got plenty of to begin with, as well as these types of games , which is why the wii is selling more and still took crown last month regardless ,

Ironre5

I am not being biased towards the wii...i love nintendo as my primary console, my 360 is my secondary console...but i do hate the casual games that are coming out now, which are half ass*ed efforts made by developers who just wish to earn $$$$$....i only play hardcore titles, and dont tell me theres no such thing as hardcore vs casual games...youre just misinformed if you think that....

yes but there is also such a thing as good casual games like Boom Box and wii Sports

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#20 Ironre5
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[QUOTE="Ironre5"][QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

why hasnt any one compliained about this before this gen,, tell me one good reason i should believe the tc isnt being biased against the wii , for real most games made today cater to the casual , its been that way since in fact in reallity theres no such thing as hardcore, you wanna know what hard core is . its a type of match in wrestling,, and if every game was that, than we will be in our 2nd game crash ,, and quite frankly i been playing my wii and 360 more and most of the games on wii are better and funner and have split screen 2-4 players whike most of 360s software is what i played out since n64 era examples all the fpses 360s got,, all the same formula used since goldeneye 007 without splitscreen which is why i do not like first person shooters of today. aside from a few select fpses that offer it ,

you see my point ,, what would you chooose.. take out all the genres like party -rpg-platformer and just keep releasing fpses ,,,

or keep it with a variety what ever you choose though it dont matter developers do not come to these forums so why waste your time complaining and dosent comparing games on this forum result in locked topics. that stuff belongs in system wars ! and i agree 1/2 percent, most casual games are good,, and actually wii is made perfect for fpses which its got plenty of to begin with, as well as these types of games , which is why the wii is selling more and still took crown last month regardless ,

Cyber-

I am not being biased towards the wii...i love nintendo as my primary console, my 360 is my secondary console...but i do hate the casual games that are coming out now, which are half ass*ed efforts made by developers who just wish to earn $$$$$....i only play hardcore titles, and dont tell me theres no such thing as hardcore vs casual games...youre just misinformed if you think that....

yes but there is also such a thing as good casual games like Boom Box and wii Sports

yes i do understand that, and i think u misunderstood what i wanted to say..when rumours had hit that kid icarus was beign developed by factor 5, i was happy since they were reviving the franchise...but then in the interview i heard it was going to be really casual, so i dont think that it will be kid icarus...and i was just expresiing my disappointment, but at the same time im happy since they might make retro develop kid icarus...also there are only a handful of casual games that are really good.....id say only one in a 100 casual games are actually good....

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#21 Cyber-
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[QUOTE="Cyber-"][QUOTE="Ironre5"][QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

why hasnt any one compliained about this before this gen,, tell me one good reason i should believe the tc isnt being biased against the wii , for real most games made today cater to the casual , its been that way since in fact in reallity theres no such thing as hardcore, you wanna know what hard core is . its a type of match in wrestling,, and if every game was that, than we will be in our 2nd game crash ,, and quite frankly i been playing my wii and 360 more and most of the games on wii are better and funner and have split screen 2-4 players whike most of 360s software is what i played out since n64 era examples all the fpses 360s got,, all the same formula used since goldeneye 007 without splitscreen which is why i do not like first person shooters of today. aside from a few select fpses that offer it ,

you see my point ,, what would you chooose.. take out all the genres like party -rpg-platformer and just keep releasing fpses ,,,

or keep it with a variety what ever you choose though it dont matter developers do not come to these forums so why waste your time complaining and dosent comparing games on this forum result in locked topics. that stuff belongs in system wars ! and i agree 1/2 percent, most casual games are good,, and actually wii is made perfect for fpses which its got plenty of to begin with, as well as these types of games , which is why the wii is selling more and still took crown last month regardless ,

Ironre5

I am not being biased towards the wii...i love nintendo as my primary console, my 360 is my secondary console...but i do hate the casual games that are coming out now, which are half ass*ed efforts made by developers who just wish to earn $$$$$....i only play hardcore titles, and dont tell me theres no such thing as hardcore vs casual games...youre just misinformed if you think that....

yes but there is also such a thing as good casual games like Boom Box and wii Sports

yes i do understand that, and i think u misunderstood what i wanted to say..when rumours had hit that kid icarus was beign developed by factor 5, i was happy since they were reviving the franchise...but then in the interview i heard it was going to be really casual, so i dont think that it will be kid icarus...and i was just expresiing my disappointment, but at the same time im happy since they might make retro develop kid icarus...also there are only a handful of casual games that are really good.....id say only one in a 100 casual games are actually good....

totally agree i just want to clarify that there are some good casual games out there.

I am dissappointed its not SF cause they could have revolutionixed that game but I know whatever they bring will look amazing and play amazing. I think this game is being PUBLISHED by a third party dev because I know NIntendo would have comissioned them with a hardcore game. i have a strong feeling that this is from a third party due to its casual nature.

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#22 Erebyssial
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Mario Galaxy had casual aspects

Didn't stop it from getting GOTY

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#23 metroidfood
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I stand corrected. Apology for my behavior, thought you were talking about the typed interview a few days ago.

Mario Galaxy had casual aspects

Didn't stop it from getting GOTY

Erebyssial

Mario Galaxy was very casual, that's why it is so easily approachable and popular, it can appeal to anyone.

The real question is whether it is casual as in Wii Sports-casual or just Halo-casual.

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#24 Cyber-
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Mario Galaxy had casual aspects

Didn't stop it from getting GOTY

Erebyssial

It may have been "accesible" to non gamers but this is one of the most hardcore games I have ever seen. meaning it dynamically changed platforming and basically never had any game flaws.

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#25 lenson
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What are we arguing about? It doesn't matter if its "Hardcore" or if its "Casual". The only thing that matters is if its going to be a good game.

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#26 jjr10
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Where in the interview did they say that? Oh right, they didn't.

Next time at least try and back up your claims with a quote.

metroidfood

Next time don't doubt IGN's podcast of someone from Level 5 saying that they were trying to make it casual.

EDIT:

Sorry if you have since been corrected many times..

Anyway, (this isn't directed at metroid btw)

Casual doesn't mean "bad".. this could be great.

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[QUOTE="chris3116"]Why do people say that casual games are crap? Read the top 10 NPD titles on each month and you'll see on the list that most are casual games. Ironre5

at the same time you need to realise that the people purchasing these casual games arent true gamers, theyre old ppl, ppl who work and arent serious abt games, true hardcore gamers scoff at these games...

Now I know what a hardcore gamer is, it's a spoiled teen with wealthy parents or an unemployed adult with no friends,girlfriend,.. no social live whatsoever.

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your an idiot please stop talking
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[QUOTE="Ironre5"]

[QUOTE="chris3116"]Why do people say that casual games are crap? Read the top 10 NPD titles on each month and you'll see on the list that most are casual games. vivi2000

at the same time you need to realise that the people purchasing these casual games arent true gamers, theyre old ppl, ppl who work and arent serious abt games, true hardcore gamers scoff at these games...

Now I know what a hardcore gamer is, it's a spoiled teen with wealthy parents or an unemployed adult with no friends,girlfriend,.. no social live whatsoever.

or me :D a brilliant excuse for a lazy idiot, who just couldn't be bothered going out today
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Eh....I'm not really all that fussed.
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#31 eklineage
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Smash bros is hardcore. You forget how many tourneys were on melee alone. Anywho, games should not be judged until you actually play through the entire thing. This forum seems the most civilized which is probably the only reason why I haven't posted on the other two console forums.

w.e we get amazing games like monster hunter. My friend told me its like *** in your hand.