Nintendo: 3DS XL not big enough to fit second circle pad

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#1 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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link [quote="Iwata"]"Attaching a second analog stick is possible, but it would have made the system even bigger, and, though it perhaps puts a burden on people that really want that second stick, it's a call we had to make and these people will have to live with it," Iwata told The Independent. "This isn't my main focus when I look at the 3DS XL, it's one point we had to cover, but for me personally I'm quite happy with the product we're able to offer." It was more important to create a system with bigger screens, Iwata continued. "When we looked at the design of the 3DS XL, we had to look at various factors. One was battery life. One was the overall size of the unit. And we had to make some trade-offs. The choice, if we were going to include the second analog stick, was to reduce the size of the batteries or make the unit much bigger. "What we wanted to do was have a bigger screen in comparison with the overall size of the system, so we had various discussions and had to make trade-offs, and this is the outcome."

Call me crazy, but his wording makes me think there will be a second redesign at some point--a true redesign. It is very evident that the emphasis on the larger screen is to make it more attractive to potential vita buyers, but considering the battery is still not so great, I do think that at some point the original model will be phased out in replace of an all new model with overall better tech.
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#2 Spinnerweb
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I guess that the 3DS Mega XL Swapnote I sent to some people here should be considered by Mr. Iwata. Godzilla and King Kong need to play their games too! :P
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*facepalm* i i love ninendo but this is one of the stupiest things i have read that Iwata has said, first of all the xl could hold another stick it seems to be the same size as the expansion for the stick and if it isn't they could move things around and second this dooms the 2nt circle pad all together and its fate is like the countless other nintendo's random accessory that will be forgot about in a few months.
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*facepalm* i i love ninendo but this is one of the stupiest things i have read that Iwata has said, first of all the xl could hold another stick it seems to be the same size as the expansion for the stick and if it isn't they could move things around and second this dooms the 2nt circle pad all together and its fate is like the countless other nintendo's random accessory that will be forgot about in a few months.elbert_b_23
You know, there is actually stuff inside the plastic casing.
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All I can say is that it was stupid of Nintendo not to include two circle pads in the original 3DS to begin with... I mean considering that games like MGS3 are on the 3DS I don't see why they didn't add it.
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#6 superbuuman
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this just confirms a 3DS with dual circle pad will be coming in future..you can bet on it. Yea sometimes Nintendo just says stupid things.

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[QUOTE="elbert_b_23"]*facepalm* i i love ninendo but this is one of the stupiest things i have read that Iwata has said, first of all the xl could hold another stick it seems to be the same size as the expansion for the stick and if it isn't they could move things around and second this dooms the 2nt circle pad all together and its fate is like the countless other nintendo's random accessory that will be forgot about in a few months.achilles614
You know, there is actually stuff inside the plastic casing.

really you mean that handheld system's are not ran off by magic and pixie dust
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[QUOTE="achilles614"][QUOTE="elbert_b_23"]*facepalm* i i love ninendo but this is one of the stupiest things i have read that Iwata has said, first of all the xl could hold another stick it seems to be the same size as the expansion for the stick and if it isn't they could move things around and second this dooms the 2nt circle pad all together and its fate is like the countless other nintendo's random accessory that will be forgot about in a few months.elbert_b_23
You know, there is actually stuff inside the plastic casing.

really you mean that handheld system's are not ran off by magic and pixie dust

Actually they are. The pixie dust is packed away into the battery. That's why the terminals are golden :D
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[QUOTE="Spinnerweb"][QUOTE="elbert_b_23"][QUOTE="achilles614"] You know, there is actually stuff inside the plastic casing.

really you mean that handheld system's are not ran off by magic and pixie dust

Actually they are. The pixie dust is packed away into the battery. That's why the terminals are golden :D

i knew it and everyone said i was insane so HA to them i was right
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I do not think the XL is a redesign. Its a variation. Its the same 3DS for bigger hands and weaker eyes.

The battery life is bigger, but this was not made to reboost sales like the actual introduction of redesigns.

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Okay Nintendo, thanks for making sure I keep my money. :)
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The system doesn't need a second circle pad anyway. Anyone ever played Metroid Prime Hunters? The game controlled perfectly, with a Dpad and touch screen no less. If you need a second circle pad, the touch screen can easily suffice.

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#14 SillyKoalaBear
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Guys, why would they add another circle pad? Not all games will even use the second pad its just an add on for just a few games. I agree that nintendo should of considered including it in thier first model but if they added it now it would be like making the next generation handheld system and basically ditching 3DS owners.

Imagine the DSi with a second d-pad. Why the heck would they do that???

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The system doesn't need a second circle pad anyway. Anyone ever played Metroid Prime Hunters? The game controlled perfectly, with a Dpad and touch screen no less. If you need a second circle pad, the touch screen can easily suffice.

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It works for some games great, in fact its underrated and constantly pig headed journalist overlook the benefit of the mouse like control of the touchscreen, but there is still need for the second analog. Its still needed for some genres, not to mention as a second preference for gamers who do not like the touchscreen. Look at MGS3, a game that is extremely robust and requires tons of control that just cannot be properly achieved without the use of the CPP. It is just the design of the DS and 3DS. If you want to use the stylus for control, you lose the ability to use ABXY and the R shoulder button. Because this is an inescapable reality they should have the second analog as an option. The second analog should be built into 3DS.It becomes more and more obvious as games make their way to 3DS that are big.
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It works for some games great, in fact its underrated and constantly pig headed journalist overlook the benefit of the mouse like control of the touchscreen, but there is still need for the second analog. Its still needed for some genres, not to mention as a second preference for gamers who do not like the touchscreen. Look at MGS3, a game that is extremely robust and requires tons of control that just cannot be properly achieved without the use of the CPP. It is just the design of the DS and 3DS. If you want to use the stylus for control, you lose the ability to use ABXY and the R shoulder button. Because this is an inescapable reality they should have the second analog as an option. The second analog should be built into 3DS.It becomes more and more obvious as games make their way to 3DS that are big.thedude-
I understand that, but remember the touch screen can be anything, including having more buttons that could be used with the stylus as well. I'm not saying it would be better than another circle pad, but you're not losing much and I would say the precision is better.

And I agree, the system probably should have had the second circle pad to begin with, but I don't see it as a necessity when you have the touch screen and stylus control.

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[QUOTE="thedude-"]It works for some games great, in fact its underrated and constantly pig headed journalist overlook the benefit of the mouse like control of the touchscreen, but there is still need for the second analog. Its still needed for some genres, not to mention as a second preference for gamers who do not like the touchscreen. Look at MGS3, a game that is extremely robust and requires tons of control that just cannot be properly achieved without the use of the CPP. It is just the design of the DS and 3DS. If you want to use the stylus for control, you lose the ability to use ABXY and the R shoulder button. Because this is an inescapable reality they should have the second analog as an option. The second analog should be built into 3DS.It becomes more and more obvious as games make their way to 3DS that are big.nintendofreak_2

I understand that, but remember the touch screen can be anything, including having more buttons that could be used with the stylus as well. I'm not saying it would be better than another circle pad, but you're not losing much and I would say the precision is better.

And I agree, the system probably should have had the second circle pad to begin with, but I don't see it as a necessity when you have the touch screen and stylus control.

I see it as a necessity for certain 3d games. Touch based buttons are not going to measure up to real buttons. The reality is some games are better with the analog stick (3rd person games that require many buttons and are not shooters, pretty much any game that requires real buttons) than a stylus and some games are better with a stylus (3rd person shooters, first person shooters, RTS, strategy and so on).
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Its already big, but if you have to make it a little bigger just to put extra circle pad then do it ****it!

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Its already big, but if you have to make it a little bigger just to put extra circle pad then do it ****it!

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It's not big enough, yet the launch model with the ccp attachment is about the same size as the Xl, no?